http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/WTC.htm
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Experts say the best way to bring down a building in a scientifically
controlled collapse is to detonate high explosives placed on strategic
load-bearing columns and beams with precision, sequential timing.
William Rodriguez and the 14 people with him are certain that a
controlled demolition brought the buildings down. On a third rescue
mission upstairs in the North Tower, the heroic janitor heard what he
describes as a series of small explosions going off between the 20th
and 30th floors.
Eyewitness Ross Milanytch told author Jim Marrs that as he stared
transfixed from a building near the WTC, "I saw small explosions on
each floor...and then all of a sudden it started like... it sounded
like gunfire... you know, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang and then
all of a sudden three big explosions."
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The buildings were of a crap design.
> The buildings were of a crap design.
Great explanation, sure!
And the WTC7 must have been just as bad: a little office fire and
woosh, it collapses....
And once again a conspiracist completely ignores everything that was
explained previously and starts a new thread stating the exact same
debunked bullshit from a previous thread by a janitor who has already
been proven a liar.
Why should anyone even bother addressing anything you say when all
you're going to do is ignore it all and start another thread about the
same crap the following week?
Nope. Silverstein Properties already said it was taken down with internal
explosions. It was just a coincidence it happened on the day of 9/11/01.
Kind of like it was coincidental that FEMA was set up, ready for action on
9/10/01. Kind of like, planes were doing U Turns all over the skies and not
a single fighter jet intercepted. Kind of like, Bush tied 9/11 to Saddam,
and hasn't went one iota after OBL, if there really is a OBL to go after.
That guy could be a goat herder for all we know. Lots of coincidences on
9/11, but the aftermath of 9/11: The Patriot Act. Domestic Spying. A war
based on false Intelligence. Torture. Rape of Iraqi Girls by Soldiers.
This is the Bush Legacy. And the Legacy of every American that supported
this boondoggle War. Oh, lest we forget: The Legacy of Halliburton making
1 trillion dollars since 9/11. The Legacy of Oil Companies making record
Profits. The Legacy of 2,500+ dead Soldiers. The Legacy of over 170,000
Iraqis killed.
Yes. Gone are the days of the Noble and Just War. Like World War II. That
was the last great war. It was Just, and right.
America. How far you have fallen.
Luke
And how ironic Rumsfeld spoke of "lessens" to be "learned from
history":
The whole GOP has completely ERASED Dwight Eisenhower from their
memory, especially what he said in his speeches. He would be the
anti-Bush, the anti-Neo Con. if he were alive today.
ROFL!!
Actually... we do not even have candlelight's anymore in our home, because
we are afraid the house will collapse!!
Once our neighbor had to light a cigarette.. and *POOF!* the house was
gone!!
An example for less obvious, less severe guilt is NASA's moon-landing
hoax:
They have been responsive to the hoax allegations, and have come up
with their official explanations for the pieces of hoax-evidence
presented on the net. And even more, they promise to prove it, once
technology permits, with better telescopes and space probes, they're
insisting they could prove the Apollo landing sites to exist.
- The evidence is grave, but the defense is professional.
Bush and co. are quite different: The evidence is overwhelming, the
defense to cover-up.
Patton would puke over Bush. How he marched his men 1500 miles all night
and fought with the Germans the very next day, and won. If he knew how the
Military was being used today, he'd puke big pineapple chunks.
When I took my Oath, when I joined the Army, no where did I say or promise
to be used to protect and defend the Corporations. What Bush calls a
God**** piece of Paper, I took seriously. The whole Republic rests upon it.
I guess when draft dodgers and people who never served a day in their lives
get in charge, that's what you get.
I am glad people are waking up. I wish more would. What is sad is to hear
the people who call into Rush's show, or Sean Insanity's show. Those are
very mind controlled. Brainwashed. They are little Neocon Robots. Of
course, they might not be real. They could be staffers calling it to make
it look like they actually have listeners.
Luke
Actually it has came out Silverstein Properties imploded building 7. Of
course it was a big coincidence it happened on 9/11. What are the odds?
Luke
Military service has nothing to do with whether one makes a good leader
or not.
> "Ingolf" <Dont_Spa...@excite.com> wrote in message
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>><njst-...@usa.net> wrote in message
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>>>Sid9 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The buildings were of a crap design.
>>>
>>>Great explanation, sure!
>>>And the WTC7 must have been just as bad: a little office fire and
>>>woosh, it collapses....
>>>
>>
>>ROFL!!
>>
>>Actually... we do not even have candlelight's anymore in our home, because
>>we are afraid the house will collapse!!
>>
>>Once our neighbor had to light a cigarette.. and *POOF!* the house was
>>gone!!
>>
>>
>
>
> Actually it has came out Silverstein Properties imploded building 7.
No it hasn't.
Too many odd coincidences happend 9/11.
Even silverstein proofed to be another sick bastard! He had insurred the
twin tower against terrorist attack, just 2 months before the atatcks. And
he pushed his lawyers to get the double insurance amount, since it could be
regarded as 2 seperate terroristattacks! Talking about a sick man in a sick
socity. I still hope the american people will clean up the mess in the white
house, but so far.. nothing has happened... Thats truely sad!!!
But the odds for Jeb Bush to be the head of security on the WTC towers,
which ran out the 9/11... its like winning in lotto each week, for 50 years!
http://www.makethemaccountable.com/burns/030204_BushFamilyCompanyHandledSecurity.htm
Everybody seems to be mixing up "anti-war" with "anti-Bush". That's one
issue that Rush should have exposed after Iraq II: Support our troops,
BUT let's rid us of those responsible for the 9/11 cover-up, including
those top level conspirators in the military.
It helps when your in the middle of a freakin war. Some war this has been.
We supposedly are fighting against terrorists Bull ka ka! I say you hit
them, worldwide, on all fronts. Building a democracy that will eventually
lead to another dictatorship: What's that?
Luke
Dont get me started on Rush. It is obvious he is only a cheerleader for the
neocons, and is no Critical Thinker.
I'm not a big critical thinker, in that I reject everything the Neocons do.
If they gave every American a solid gold bar, I'd question it. I don't know
where they lost me. I voted for Bush, twice. I think maybe his arrogance.
Perhaps his policies. I don't know. I just don't like this guy.
Luke
It was Marvin Bush, not Jeb, and he left the company over a year before
9/11.
Its hard to say. Everything boils down to money. The love of money is the
root of all evil, the Bible says.
Luke
But on the other hand, it makes perfect sense to have him among the
conspirators: That way they had total control over everything: Rumsfeld
directed the cover-up at the Pentagon, Silverstein arranged the
controlled demolition, and Giuliani guaranteed the massive cover-up at
Ground Zero.
All that might just scratch the surface, and behind it might be - who
knows. Our united message should be "investigate 9/11" !!!
I totally agree!! Unfortunately most of the evidence has been sold for
scraps already :(
One of the keys to solve this, is WTC7 and WTC6.
Imho, the plot went completely wrong. They never anticipated that the
buildings were that strong. The towers should have collapsed seconds after
impact. This would give alot more sense to why they collpased. So they
panicked. They had thermite charges in the building, but apparently the
radiosignal that should set the charges off, was interrupted by the
planecrash istself. Time passed, and it took about an ½-1 hour before they
could get radiocontact to the charges again. But they were apperantly
damaged, so they had to fly a helicopter so close to the buildings that they
were sure the charges would go off.
http://www.terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem9/
You are right... sorry for the mistake.
But marvin did not leave a year before 9/11. but on THE 9/11 itself. Do you
have any newsarticles that proof otherwise?
There's a very exotic conspiracy theorist at
http://www.spitfirelist.com/ , Mr Emory. He might be quite exaggerating
in most of his work, and as far as 9/11 is concerned, i think he never
grasped that Bush was behind it, and is instead still blaming Arabs.
But one thing he DID recognize early on and he was pretty UNIQUE in
that, he predicted in 2000 the Bush regime would be a "forefront" to a
world conspiracy - now we know he was right!!
Sure. The one you provided in your previous post.
http://www.makethemaccountable.com/burns/030204_BushFamilyCompanyHandledSecurity.htm
"Marvin P. Bush, the president's youngest brother, was a director at
Stratesec from 1993 to fiscal year 2000"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...thud
I don't believe the moon landing was a hoax.
Keep this topic separate from the 9/11 issue - otherwise it appears that
your goal is just to make those claiming 9/11 was an inside job look bad.
Even if the moon landing was a hoax, it was a harmless one. They lie about
other things too, like UFOs. I only wish that was ALL these murderous
fascist criminals lied about!
> Bush and co. are quite different: The evidence is overwhelming, the
> defense to cover-up.
True.
>Experts say the best way to bring down a building in a scientifically
>controlled collapse is to detonate high explosives placed on strategic
>load-bearing columns and beams with precision, sequential timing.
Too bad that didn't happen on 9/11, isn't it?
>
><njst-...@usa.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> Sid9 wrote:
>>
>> > The buildings were of a crap design.
>>
>> Great explanation, sure!
>> And the WTC7 must have been just as bad: a little office fire and
>> woosh, it collapses....
>>
>
>Nope. Silverstein Properties already said it was taken down with internal
>explosions.
No, Andy, they haven't.
>It was just a coincidence it happened on the day of 9/11/01.
It might have had something to do with the two large aircraft that
were involved.
>Kind of like it was coincidental that FEMA was set up, ready for action on
>9/10/01.
Except they weren't.
>Kind of like, planes were doing U Turns all over the skies and not
>a single fighter jet intercepted.
And what would you have had the jets do, Andy? Where are the
procedures that dictate the inteception by the military of domestic,
civilian airliners?
> On 21 Mar 2006 09:01:30 -0800, njst-...@usa.net wrote:
>
> >Experts say the best way to bring down a building in a scientifically
> >controlled collapse is to detonate high explosives placed on strategic
> >load-bearing columns and beams with precision, sequential timing.
>
> And to do that you'd need to tear out walls to lay the explosives,
> involving dozens of workers working around the clock in full view of
> the 5000-6000 people working at the WTC at all hours of the day.
>
> You = kook.
Come on, Orion, do your reading. You sound stupid. The WTCs were shut
down for several weekends before 9/11. Read about it. Quit making a
fool of yourself.
E. K.
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> as did all the other courts to have decided the issue, held
> that the President did have inherent authority to conduct
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> information..We take for granted that the President does
> have that authority and, assuming that is so, FISA could not
> encroach on the President's constitutional power."
>
> http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200603150741.asp
>
> Game, set, and match.
>
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Funny things happen in Kookland, but in the real world, WTC 7 came down
due to damage from the towers falling, and the fires.
Must be lots of fun living in Kookland..
Do you have any real evidence of these claims, you know, maybe non
kookpages?
BDK
> In article <k4d122di13588kfo4...@4ax.com>, OrionCA
> <Ori...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>On 21 Mar 2006 09:01:30 -0800, njst-...@usa.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Experts say the best way to bring down a building in a scientifically
>>>controlled collapse is to detonate high explosives placed on strategic
>>>load-bearing columns and beams with precision, sequential timing.
>>
>>And to do that you'd need to tear out walls to lay the explosives,
>>involving dozens of workers working around the clock in full view of
>>the 5000-6000 people working at the WTC at all hours of the day.
>>
>>You = kook.
>
>
> Come on, Orion, do your reading. You sound stupid. The WTCs were shut
> down for several weekends before 9/11. Read about it. Quit making a
> fool of yourself.
Several weekends, eh?
So John O'Neill the head of Security for WTC just watched someone plant
the bombs that brought down the building and killed him?
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>In article <k4d122di13588kfo4...@4ax.com>, OrionCA
><Ori...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> On 21 Mar 2006 09:01:30 -0800, njst-...@usa.net wrote:
>>
>> >Experts say the best way to bring down a building in a scientifically
>> >controlled collapse is to detonate high explosives placed on strategic
>> >load-bearing columns and beams with precision, sequential timing.
>>
>> And to do that you'd need to tear out walls to lay the explosives,
>> involving dozens of workers working around the clock in full view of
>> the 5000-6000 people working at the WTC at all hours of the day.
>>
>> You = kook.
>
>Come on, Orion, do your reading. You sound stupid. The WTCs were shut
>down for several weekends before 9/11. Read about it. Quit making a
>fool of yourself.
Now it's "several weekends"? Isn't it amazing how conspiracy wackos
just make the story grow and grow?
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/forbes01.htm
"On the weekend of 9/8,9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC
tower 2, the south tower. "
One tower, one weekend, and only one person making the allegation.
First it was part of one tower for part of one day.
Then it was part of one tower for a day.
Then it was part of one tower for a weekend.
Then it was one tower for a weekend.
Then it was both towers for the weekend.
Now it's both towers for several weekends.
In ten years it'll be "How come the WTC didn't have power since 1991?"