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"gordo" <grme...@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
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> I am sure that everyone
> in this newsgroup agrees that silencing scientists is a very bad
> thing.
>


Agreed ...


SHAME LIST!



Some Of The Leftist/Warmist Closet Totalitarians Desperately Trying To
Silence Dissent On The Great Global Warming Hoax

This demonstrates just how feeble their case really is, and they know it!

Jul 2 2011





LAST WEEK 50-or-so "academics" signed a group letter demanding that
Christopher Monckton be shunned and silenced.





Here are most of the signatories, with some notes and links about their
specialties and credentials.





If a person is to be judged by his enemies, Monckton looks very good indeed.





Winthrop Professor Stephan Lewandowsky, Australian Professorial Fellow, UWA

Alene Composta's soulmate. Yep, this guy can spot a fraud when he sees one.





Prof John P. Abraham, Associate Professor, School of Engineering, University
of St. Thomas

Neither in Australia nor Australian.. He is an American academic in
Minnesota and suffers from a severe Monckton fixation. He writes to those
whose research is challenged, asks what they think of Monckton and then
posts their responses, which mostly amount to repeating their original
claims. By Abraham's standards this amounts to "refutation." He and Monckton
trade lawyers' letters and threaten to sue each other. Abraham has a dog in
this fight and it's an ugly, self-interested one.





Natalie Latter, PhD Candidate, UWA

Student. Hoping the global warming schtick lasts long enough to get her
career established. Her background is political science, not climate
science.





Mike Blanchard, PhD Candidate, UWA

Another pol-sci type specialising in "governmentality". Whatever that may
be, figure it involves higher taxes and a lot of more of being told how to
think and behave.





Prof Michael Archer AM, Evolution of Earth & Life Systems Research Group,

Biological, Earth & Environmental Sciences, University of New South Wales

Fossil collector and parrot kisser.





David Hodgkinson, The Hodgkinson Group

"Climate change" consultant with own firm advising clients how to handle
climate-change legislation - legislation he pushes, along with climate
scares, as an associate professor of law at UWA, which should be ashamed of
its Vice-Chancellor Alan "Gag the Man" Robson.





Dorothy Bishop, Adjunct Professor of Psychology, UWA

Professor of Developmental Neuropsychology, Dept of Experimental Psychology,
University of Oxford

Spends a lot of time close to Lewandowsky. Evidently it's catching.
Everything she knows about climate she learned studying the development of
language skills in children. Why not cut out their little tongues at birth?
It would stop them voicing disquieting opinions in later life. Knows all
about academic empire building. Curiously, she has blogged with great
passion about grant snaffling and its deleterious impact on research and
academic integrity. Somehow overlooks "climate science" as a prime example
of this folly.





Melinda Trugden, PhD Candidate, UWA

Botanical collector when not signing petitions demanding an end to coal use
in WA.





Prof. Peter Newman, John Curtin Distinguished Professor of Sustainability,

Director, Curtin University Sustainability Policy Institute, Curtin
University

Just bagged a $1 million grant to study "the future of roads and biophilic
urbanism." He is also a "celebrity speaker". It is not know if sceptics have
raised a petition to have his speechifying silenced, but it might not be a
bad idea, given what is good for the goose etc etc





Sanna Peden, PhD Candidate, UWA

Specialist in the representation of the Salvation Army in Finnish cinema.
And no, that is not joke.





Philip Keirle, PhD Candidate, UWA

Want to know how late-19th century American youths were encouraged to wash
their hands? Phil's your man. See Building Sanitary Citizens. Phil has
formerly written of Supressing Laughter To Build Character. He has now moved
on to suppressing free speech.





Ullrich Ecker, Assistant Professor, School of Psychology, UWA

Someone else who sat too close to Lewandowsky.





Prof Steven Sherwood, Co-Director, Climate Change Research Centre,
University of New South Wales

Finally, a proper climate scientist. We know this because, while
acknowledging "exaggerations" in An Inconvenient Truth, Sherwood reckons the
movie's message is "important and on target." One rule for Fat Albert,
another for Monckton.





Dr Mark Edwards, Assistant Professor, Business School, UWA

Believes current methods of determining Gross Domestic Product do the
environment a grave injustice and insists governments must embrace
"meta-regulation" in order to "guide our economic behaviour towards more
sustaining and enriching national goals." If you are still inclined to take
Edwards seriously, bear in mind that he writes for Andrew Jaspan's little
site, The Conversation. No need to take him seriously any longer.





Adam McHugh, Lecturer, School of Engineering and Energy, Murdoch University

Wants no new coal-fired power stations and seeks legislation to stop
bailouts of plant operators. The government should "divest itself of coal
fired assets sooner rather than later" - not to privatize them, but in order
to close them down for good. With all the power stations shuttered, McHugh
sees WA turning to "options such as flywheels, compressed air and batteries
[which] need to be carefully considered."



Dr David Robinson, Lecturer of History, Edith Cowan University

Robinson, who modestly notes that he is has bagged "a tenure-track lecturing
position at Edith Cowan University" is superbly qualified to hold forth on
matters climatological. His specialty is modern African history.





Dr Kerrie Unsworth, Associate Professor, Business School, UWA

Believes groupthink is a swell idea, except when too many meetings raise
"the yuck factor". Has yet to snaffle a climate-related grant, but can be
expected to do so when she can find a way to link her specialty,
organizational sociology, to polar bears or, in view of her desire to see
Monckton silenced, the dangers of free speech.





Dr Sky Croeser, Lecturer, Department of Internet Studies, Curtin University

Let Sky describe herself: "My dissertation looked at the opposition to
genetically modified crops in India to filesharing, the free and open source
software movement, and copyright activism, and understands these battles in
the context of the broader movement for globalisation from below." Those
file-sharing maize crops can be such a nuisance! Will work on her own
literacy if a grant arrives.





Prof Kevin Judd, School of Mathematics and Statistics, UWA

Has sat on panels with Lewandowsky. No further explanation needed.





Dr Kayt Davies, Senior Lecturer in Journalism, Edith Cowan University

Specialty: an ethnographic study of women's magazine editors. Will hemlines
rise with the mercury? Can Brad and Angelina turn down the thermostat? Smart
summer salads all year round? Davies is your go-to gal for those topics.





Esmeralda Rocha, PhD Candidate, UWA.

Resident climate change expert at UWA's School of Music.





Jenny Kent, PhD Candidate, University of Technology Sydney

After launching her career in solid waste, she has switched to climate
change. Not much of a move when you think about it.





Stephen Owen, PhD Candidate, University of Newcastle

"The Thinking Woman's Yobbo", as he describes himself, is an aficionado of
modern Japanese literature, hence his authoritative tone on climate issues.





Alana George, Research Consultant, Institute for Sustainable Futures,
University of Technology Sydney

Compiles and edits the weekly UTS staff sustainability network e-newsletter.
She aspires to one day be placed in charge of wiping down the sink in
Institute for Sustainable Futures tea room.





Cynthia Mitchell, Professor of Sustainability, Institute for Sustainable
Futures, University of Technology Sydney

All your urine are belong to us.





Edward Langham, Senior Research Consultant, Institute for Sustainable
Futures, University of Technology Sydney

As Fiji's former climate guru, Langham has seen first-hand why governments
sometimes need the freedom to gag troublesome sorts - you know, those who
beg to differ about little things like democracy and free speech.





Caitlin McGee, Research Principle, Institute for Sustainable Futures,
University of Technology Sydney

Architect Caitlin appreciates the opportunities of a career in climate
change: "The service that I am most familiar with is actually the cheap
drinks."





Prof David Karoly, School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne

Said the recent dry spell was "the first drought in Australia where the
impact of human-induced global warming can be clearly observed." Hydrologist
Stewart Franks took him to task about that and other claims. Meanwhile,
since there was probably insufficient time to knock off a group letter
demanding Franks be silenced, the ABC obligingly applied the gag by
interviewing Franks and then discarding the tape.

Hey, if every other news organization refused to cover Monckton's trip,
there would be no need for protest notes.





Dr Tim Stephens, Senior Lecturer, Faculty of Law, University of Sydney

He is a lawyer. His lips are moving. He regrets that Monckton also enjoys
that freedom.





Prof Jane McAdam, Director of Research, Faculty of Law, University of NSW

Cares deeply for refugees - and is even more appreciative of big grants to
study where all those "climate refugees" are coming from. Except they haven't
been.





Dr David Mallard, Senior Lecturer, School of Psychology, Charles Sturt
University

Drum contributor. Also known to have been in contact with Lewandowsky.
Believed to be infected.



Prof Alex Coram, Winthrop Professor of Political Economy, UWA

Writes a lot about Marxist theory, but has some interesting sidelines. He
helps out behind the counter at David Hodgkinson's (see above) climate
consulting shop, and there is also time to get ready for those climate
refugees. - the ones that aren't coming - with the likes of Jane McAdam (see
above). Golly, you might almost think there is a climate industry being
assembled. Just don't say as much out loud or the participants will demand
that you be silenced for questioning their lofty motives.





Tim Highfield, PhD candidate, QUT

Draws graphs and charts about what Australian political bloggers get up to,
Compares this with French political bloggers and .. draws more charts and
graphs





Kathryn Healey, PhD Candidate, University of Queensland.

Engineer who worked for alternative energy outfit Wind Prospect. Why would a
person with a wind and solar background want to silence someone who sees
that line of business as a scam?





Dr Clare Lloyd, Lecturer, Internet Studies, Curtin University

This environmental expert's PhD: "I 'heart' mobile phone': a discursive
study of identity processes through mobile phone communication."





Prof Roger N Jones, Professorial Research Fellow, Centre for Strategic
Economic Studies, Victoria University

Climate pimp and proud vulgarian.





Dr Markus Donat, Research Fellow, Climate Change Research Centre, University
of New South Wales

Trying to link catastrophic weather events to climate change. So far, more
hole than donat





Dr Alex English, Research Fellow, Centre for Strategic Economic Studies,
Victoria University

Sino the times! Unconstrained by nasty little things like democracy and
niggling eruptions of free speech, China is transforming itself into a green
paradise - a development our very own Dept of Climate Change wants
Australians to know about. That is why English is getting by on a paltry
$400,000 grant to chronicle the Great Green Leap Forward. His employer is
chuffed about English's talents as a rainmaker, as it notes in its 2009
annual report: "External research income was $1,576,000 in 2008, up 14% on
2008. A major component of this amount was $400,000 received from the
Department of Climate"





Dr Katrin Meissner, ARC Future Fellow, Climate Change Research Centre,
University of New South Wales

Believes she can save the world by appearing on Hungry Beast and shouting
"motherf***er" at viewers whose taxes pay the show's production costs and
salaries. Behold! The current face of serious, settled science.





Dr Iain White, Senior Lecturer, Director of the Centre for Urban and
Regional Ecology, University of Manchester, UK

Capitalism has a fatal flaw: It applies technology to problems, rather than
forcing the masses to change their behaviour.





Jason Sharbanee, PhD Candidate, UWA

Looking into the reasons drunks don't make sober, rational decisions. Hint:
They're pissed most of the time.





Isabel Rossen, PhD Candidate, UWA

Has a Facebook page. Likes cider. Nothing else. Full-blown climate expert.





Prof Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, Director, Global Change Institute, University of
Queensland

The Reef is dying . and dying . and dying . and then dying some more. (if
you skip that bit about there being "no evidence of consistent, system-wide
decline in coral cover".) Ove Hoegh-Guldberg's career is thriving . and
thriving .. and thriving all over again.





He will collect neither prize nor grant for services to free speech, as
Anthony Watts explains: "WUWT readers may remember Professor Ove
Hoegh-Guldberg from when I had a tussle with him during my speaking tour in
Australia in Brisbane. Then, the good professor thought his opinion so
important, that he disrupted the meeting and hogged the microphone. However,
we let him talk, and he had the audience for several minutes."

The Coral Catastropharian gets to speak his piece. Monckton needs to be
silenced and ignored.





Dr Terence J Edwards, Distinguished Teaching Fellow, Center for Petroleum
and Energy Research, UWA

This grant list has the look of real science, but not about climate change.





Xavier Goldie, PhD Candidate, ANU

Former NZ Greens candidate for the seat of Te Atatu, assured voters he "does
not engage in character assassination" - except if the target isn't a
catastropharian. Monckton should be doubly offended. Xavier, a large and
hairy botanist who enjoys the company of other large and hairy men, swears
that gay couples deserve equal rights. But Xavier, what about gay couples
who are also climate skeptics? Hmmmm





Dr Rose Andrew, Visiting Scientist, College of Medicing, Biology and
Environment, ANU

Immersed in her studies of sunflowers that grow on sand dunes, Rose also
favours uprooting the right to be heard.





Chiara Pacifici, Research Associate, Curtin University Sustainability Policy
Institute, Curtin University

Quote: "Having been in the real estate industry for over 16 years, I
strongly believe real estate professionals have an important role to play in
optimising the flow of information on sustainability . This lead me to
create the Green Gurus website and develop educative workshops for the Real
Estate Industry so that I could share my experiences and help others take
advantage of the many financial, environmental and social benefits
sustainability has bought me."

Chiara now runs seminars for land sharks. Heavy emphasis on that free money
governments are handing out to save the world, one subsidised showerhead at
a time.





There are another 10-or-so signatures on the letter but, quite frankly, the
will to plough through the remainder has vanished with the morning's rain.





http://bunyipitude.blogspot.com/2011/07/finnish-cinema-and-climate-change.html





Warmest Regards



B O N Z O



"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville



"A major problem has been the co-option of climate science by politics,
ambition, greed, and what seems to be a hereditary human need for a
righteous cause."

"What better cause than "saving" the planet, especially if one can get
ample, secure funding at the same time?"

William Happer, Cyrus Fogg Brackett Professor of Physics, Princeton
University.



"The claim is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8ºK in
about 150 years, which, if true, means to me that the temperature has been
amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely
improved in this 'warming' period,".

Nobel Laureate Dr. Ivar Giaever:



"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"

Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author



"A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific
method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made
global warming."

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips



"Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to
show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a
result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data
and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"

"The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips



"Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the
environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try
at condemning fossil fuels!"

http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-greatly-exaggerated



Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems
that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a
couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily
journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.

Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher



"All it takes to find oneself called a 'denier' is to seek a sense of
proportion about environmental problems"

Mark Lynas, The God Species




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On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 13:08:15 +1100, "AGGWHhoax" <AGGWHhoax@AGGWHhoax>
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>
>LAST WEEK 50-or-so "academics" signed a group letter demanding that
>Christopher Monckton be shunned and silenced.
>
Not exactly. Read carefully.

https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=17SkAkgRMhG5bfO7eIwTJCM6QKcJ172dq9nMN8sXCZR0

<Start extract>

24 June 2011

An open letter to Notre Dame University (Fremantle)
from members of the Australian academic community

As members of the academic community in Australia, we are deeply
disturbed that Notre Dame University intends to host a lecture by Lord
Christopher Monckton on 30 June 2011.

Lord Monckton propounds widely discredited fictions about climate
change and misrepresents the research of countless scientists. With
zero peer-reviewed scientific publications, he has declared that the
scientific enterprise is invalid and that climate science is
fraudulent. He stands for the kind of ignorance and superstition that
universities have a duty to counter.

Over the last month there has been a great deal of coverage in the
Australian media of the death threats and abusive emails that have
targeted Australian scientists working on climate change. These
threats are fuelled by misinformation spread by figures like Lord
Monckton and the distorted coverage that they receive in the
Australian media.

As academics, we expect our universities to support us against this
kind of abuse. We expect our universities to foster academic standards
of conduct and argument. Recently, Lord Monckton showed a large
swastika next to a quote by Professor Garnaut and likened him to a
Nazi. Professor Garnaut is one of Australia’s most respected
economists who has served his country as a diplomat and expert adviser
to many governments.

In hosting this lecture, Notre Dame University is undermining the
academic community. It is betraying the integrity of our scientists
and those who struggle to communicate the facts about climate change
to the public. It is completely unacceptable for a university to be
tacitly endorsing the views of an individual such as Lord Monckton.
Our universities must have higher standards than this.

We all support academic freedom and the freedom to express our ideas
and beliefs. However, Notre Dame University has a responsibility to
avoid promoting discredited views on an issue of public risk. Notre
Dame's invitation to Lord Monckton makes a mockery of academic
standards and the pursuit of evidence-based knowledge.

We, the undersigned, call on Notre Dame University to cancel this
event.

<End extract>

Winthrop Professor Stephan Lewandowsky, Australian Professorial
Fellow, UWA

Prof John P. Abraham, Associate Professor, School of Engineering,
University of St. Thomas

Natalie Latter, PhD Candidate, UWA

Mike Blanchard, PhD Candidate, UWA

Prof Michael Archer AM, Evolution of Earth & Life Systems Research
Group,
Biological, Earth & Environmental Sciences, University of New South
Wales

David Hodgkinson, The Hodgkinson Group

Dorothy Bishop, Adjunct Professor of Psychology, UWA
Professor of Developmental Neuropsychology, Dept of Experimental
Psychology, University of Oxford

Melinda Trugden, PhD Candidate, UWA

Prof. Peter Newman, John Curtin Distinguished Professor of
Sustainability,
Director, Curtin University Sustainability Policy Institute, Curtin
University

Sanna Peden, PhD Candidate, UWA

Philip Keirle, PhD Candidate, UWA

Ullrich Ecker, Assistant Professor, School of Psychology, UWA

Prof Steven Sherwood, Co-Director, Climate Change Research Centre,
University of New South Wales

Dr Mark Edwards, Assistant Professor, Business School, UWA

Adam McHugh, Lecturer, School of Engineering and Energy, Murdoch
University

Dr David Robinson, Lecturer of History, Edith Cowan University

Dr Kerrie Unsworth, Associate Professor, Business School, UWA

Dr Sky Croeser, Lecturer, Department of Internet Studies, Curtin
University

Prof Kevin Judd, School of Mathematics and Statistics, UWA

Dr Kayt Davies, Senior Lecturer in Journalism, Edith Cowan University

Esmeralda Rocha, PhD Candidate, UWA

Jenny Kent, PhD Candidate, University of Technology Sydney

Stephen Owen, PhD Candidate, University of Newcastle

Alana George, Research Consultant, Institute for Sustainable Futures,
University of Technology Sydney

Cynthia Mitchell, Professor of Sustainability, Institute for
Sustainable Futures, University of Technology Sydney

Edward Langham, Senior Research Consultant, Institute for Sustainable
Futures, University of Technology Sydney

Caitlin McGee, Research Principle, Institute for Sustainable Futures,
University of Technology Sydney

Prof David Karoly, School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne

Dr Tim Stephens, Senior Lecturer, Faculty of Law, University of Sydney

Prof Jane McAdam, Director of Research, Faculty of Law, University of
NSW

Dr David Mallard, Senior Lecturer, School of Psychology, Charles Sturt
University

Prof Alex Coram, Winthrop Professor of Political Economy, UWA

Tim Highfield, PhD candidate, QUT

Kathryn Healey, PhD Candidate, University of Queensland

Dr Clare Lloyd, Lecturer, Internet Studies, Curtin University

Prof Roger N Jones, Professorial Research Fellow, Centre for Strategic
Economic Studies, Victoria University

Dr Markus Donat, Research Fellow, Climate Change Research Centre,
University of New South Wales

Dr Alex English, Research Fellow, Centre for Strategic Economic
Studies, Victoria University

Dr Katrin Meissner, ARC Future Fellow, Climate Change Research Centre,
University of New South Wales

Dr Iain White, Senior Lecturer, Director of the Centre for Urban and
Regional Ecology, University of Manchester, UK

Jason Sharbanee, PhD Candidate, UWA

Isabel Rossen, PhD Candidate, UWA

Prof Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, Director, Global Change Institute, University
of Queensland

Dr Terence J Edwards, Distinguished Teaching Fellow, Center for
Petroleum and Energy Research, UWA

Xavier Goldie, PhD Candidate, ANU

Dr Rose Andrew, Visiting Scientist, College of Medicing, Biology and
Environment, ANU

Chiara Pacifici, Research Associate, Curtin University Sustainability
Policy Institute, Curtin University

Dr Lyanne Brouwer, Post-doctoral Fellow, College of Medicine, Biology
and Environment, ANU

Dr Dave Rowell, Deputy Director Teaching and Learning, Associate
Professor in Evolutionary Genetics, College of Medicine, Biology and
Environment, ANU

Dr Kate Umbers, Post-doctoral Fellow, College of Medicine, Biology and
Environment, ANU

Prof Jochen Zeil, Professor of Ecological Neuroscience, Research
School of Biology, ANU

James Davies, Research Assistant, Evolution, Ecology and Genetics,
Research School of Biology, ANU

Assoc Prof Klaus Weber, Deputy Director, Centre for Sustainable Energy
Systems, ANU

Prof Hanna Kokko, Australian Laureate Fellow, Evolution, Ecology and
Genetics, Research School of Biology, ANU

Sandra Binning, PhD Candidate, ANU

Dr Kyla Tienhaara, Research Fellow, Regulatory Institutions Network,
ANU

Daniel Hoops, PhD Candidate, Research School of Biology, ANU

Dr Samuel Reid, Research School of Biology, ANU

Isobel Booksmythe, PhD Candidate, Research School of Biology, ANU

Dr David J. A. Cooper, Curtin University

<End extract>

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> On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 13:08:15 +1100, "AGGWHhoax" <AGGWHhoax@AGGWHhoax>
> wrote:
>>LAST WEEK 50-or-so "academics" signed a group letter demanding that
>>Christopher Monckton be shunned and silenced.
>>
> Not exactly. Read carefully.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=17SkAkgRMhG5bfO7eIwTJCM6QKcJ172dq9nMN8sXCZR0
> We, the undersigned, call on Notre Dame University to cancel this
> event.



Huh?

Sounds like a desperate attempt at CENSORSHIP to me!

WTF are you trying to say?

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>
>"Surfer" <n...@spam.invalid> wrote in message
>news:2o13l7t47npcf9us7...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 13:08:15 +1100, "AGGWHhoax" <AGGWHhoax@AGGWHhoax>
>> wrote:
>>>LAST WEEK 50-or-so "academics" signed a group letter demanding that
>>>Christopher Monckton be shunned and silenced.
>>>
>> Not exactly. Read carefully.
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=17SkAkgRMhG5bfO7eIwTJCM6QKcJ172dq9nMN8sXCZR0
>> We, the undersigned, call on Notre Dame University to cancel this
>> event.
>
>Huh?
>
>Sounds like a desperate attempt at CENSORSHIP to me!
>

Why? Cancelling the event doesn't stop Monckton peddling his nonsense
at other events.

".....Lord Monckton propounds widely discredited fictions about
climate change and misrepresents the research of countless scientists.
With zero peer-reviewed scientific publications, he has declared that
the scientific enterprise is invalid and that climate science is
fraudulent. He stands for the kind of ignorance and superstition that
universities have a duty to counter....."





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> On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 14:03:22 +1100, "AGGWHhoax" <AGGWHhoax@AGGWHhoax>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Surfer" <n...@spam.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:2o13l7t47npcf9us7...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 3 Mar 2012 13:08:15 +1100, "AGGWHhoax" <AGGWHhoax@AGGWHhoax>
>>> wrote:
>>>>LAST WEEK 50-or-so "academics" signed a group letter demanding that
>>>>Christopher Monckton be shunned and silenced.
>>>>
>>> Not exactly. Read carefully.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=17SkAkgRMhG5bfO7eIwTJCM6QKcJ172dq9nMN8sXCZR0
>>> We, the undersigned, call on Notre Dame University to cancel this
>>> event.
>>
>>Huh?
>>
>>Sounds like a desperate attempt at CENSORSHIP to me!
>>
>
> Why? Cancelling the event doesn't stop Monckton peddling his nonsense
> at other events.
>


That's right just keep deluding yourself ....

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>
>"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
>US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
>worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
>from natural variation."
>Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
>

That is a false claim.

The Decadal Land-Surface Average Temperature by the Berkley Earth Team
clearly shows warming.
http://berkeleyearth.org/images/decadal-surface-temperature-anomaly-comparison.jpg


http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm

".....Satellite and surface measurements find less energy is escaping
to space at CO2 absorption wavelengths. Ocean and surface temperature
measurements find the planet continues to accumulate heat. This gives
a line of empirical evidence that human CO2 emissions are causing
global warming."


The following graph shows that since 1979 the amount of Arctic sea ice
measured in September each year has been declined at an average rate
of 12% per decade, with a faster decline since 1998.
ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/DATASETS/NOAA/G02135/Sep/N_09_plot.png


And according to the following paper,

Acceleration of the contribution of the Greenland and Antarctic ice
sheets to sea level rise
Monaghan et al.
GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 38, L05503
http://ess.uci.edu/researchgrp/velicogna/files/rignot_etal_grl2011.pdf

"..... we determine that ice sheet loss is accelerating by
36.3 +/- 2 Gigatonnes per year per year, or 3 times larger than from
mountain glaciers and ice caps (GIC). The magnitude of the
acceleration suggests that ice sheets will be the dominant
contributors to sea level rise in forthcoming decades, and will likely
exceed the IPCC projections for the contribution of ice sheets to sea
level rise in the 21st century [Meehl et al., 2007]...."





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