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Seon Ferguson

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:17:31 AM11/18/09
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Sandy Bloxs

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:46:07 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 7:17 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's about bloody time!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-EvygFPNIE

I have more respect for Nick Xenophon with every day that goes by.

Good on that man - he's a true blue, unlike that weak-as-piss-
surrender-to-dodgy-foreign-hijackers Rudd.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:05:44 AM11/18/09
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"Sandy Bloxs" <sandy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You got that right. I only wish he could represent Canberra because I would
be proud to vote for him. Do you think it's because he's an independent?

Krudd the Dud

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:02:15 AM11/18/09
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:31 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
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All religion, especially Catholicism, should have their tax free status
clawed back; not just the Fraudologists!

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:34:05 AM11/18/09
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"Krudd the Dud" <never.make.a....@gutless.wonder.com> wrote in
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Good point. I think it's insane that religions even have tax free status in
the first place.

Surfer

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:53:41 AM11/18/09
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On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:02:15 +1100, Krudd the Dud
<never.make.a....@gutless.wonder.com> wrote:

>
>All religion, especially Catholicism, should have their tax free status
>clawed back; not just the Fraudologists!
>

I agree.

Hartley Patterson

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:03:55 AM11/18/09
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seo...@gmail.com says:

> > All religion, especially Catholicism, should have their tax free
status
> > clawed back; not just the Fraudologists!
>
> Good point. I think it's insane that religions even have tax free status in
> the first place.

See sig. 'All religions are bad' is a conversation stopper, used by those
who don't want to get off their butts and do anything. See 'all
politicians are corrupt, I don't bother to vote'.

Removing Government subsidies won't stop the forced abortions, quack
medicine and breaking up of families in Scientology.

--
Patterson's Law: all public Internet discussions
about Scientology will include a post claiming that
all religions are equally bad
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/stolgy_0.htm

Eldon

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Nov 18, 2009, 9:56:05 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 2:03 pm, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
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> seo...@gmail.com says:
>
>
>
> > > All religion, especially Catholicism, should have their tax free
> status
> > > clawed back;  not just the Fraudologists!
>
> > Good point. I think it's insane that religions even have tax free status in
> > the first place.
>
> See sig. 'All religions are bad' is a conversation stopper, used by those
> who don't want to get off their butts and do anything. See 'all
> politicians are corrupt, I don't bother to vote'.
>
> Removing Government subsidies won't stop the forced abortions, quack
> medicine and breaking up of families in Scientology.

No, but criminal convictions might make them think twice at least.

Maureen

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:07:15 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 2:17 am, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's about bloody time!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-EvygFPNIE
s;y

Thanks. Great report Senator!

This is the kind of speech that creates wildfire in political
circles.

Let it be!

Maureen

Sandy Bloxs

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:04:23 PM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 8:05 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Sandy Bloxs" <sandy.bl...@gmail.com> wrote in message

No. Steve Fielding's an Independent and he's a retarded fuckwit.

olde.sault

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:26:01 PM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 2:02 am, Krudd the Dud

Just wondeirng: why would a woman tell anyone that she is pregnant -
before it is noticeable - let alone get coerced into having an
abortion?

What would be the reason for an abortion unless the woman is unwell
or mothering too many already?

All very odd. . .

OS

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:08:40 PM11/18/09
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"Sandy Bloxs" <sandy...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Lol good point. I guess were just lucky we have at least one decent
politician like Nick Xenophon.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:09:34 PM11/18/09
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"Hartley Patterson" <hpt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> seo...@gmail.com says:
>
>> > All religion, especially Catholicism, should have their tax free
> status
>> > clawed back; not just the Fraudologists!
>>
>> Good point. I think it's insane that religions even have tax free status
>> in
>> the first place.
>
> See sig. 'All religions are bad' is a conversation stopper, used by those
> who don't want to get off their butts and do anything. See 'all
> politicians are corrupt, I don't bother to vote'.
>
> Removing Government subsidies won't stop the forced abortions, quack
> medicine and breaking up of families in Scientology.
>

Nope we need an inquiry into that. I don't want to ban scientology but
something needs to be done.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:12:19 PM11/18/09
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"olde.sault" <olde....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Did you listen to any of the Nick's speech? They were forced to. And
pressured to. I heard another guy talk about how he was involved in
pressuring women to get abortions because he didn't want to retrain anyone.
It's a terrible cult. It also sues anyone critical of it. I am getting
worried about Nick Xenophon.
> OS

Out_Of_The_Dark

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:51:03 PM11/18/09
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:) , lets hope it does so here in the US, lol

barbz

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:04:19 AM11/19/09
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Nothing odd about it. The cult doesn't want its labor force wasting time
raising little thetans that won't be useful for years. The reason for
these abortions is for the convenience of the organization. It's that
simple...and that inhuman.

--
xenubarb
Chaplain, ARSCCwdne

A walk down the path of history is crunchy with the crispy corpses of
those who pooh-poohed or ignored the clown car of ridicule when it
pulled-up to the curb.

Stephen Jones

jg

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:01:25 AM11/19/09
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Doesn't Fielding belong to Family First - a party?

jg

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:18:40 AM11/19/09
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If church organisations such as the Salvos and Anglicare paid tax, they
would be less able to contribute to welfare the government would
otherwise be obliged to pick up. It would penalise philanthropists and
we have few enough now.

It has to be asked, tax on what? They are basically non profit and would
probably be GST exempt just like all businesses. They give a lot away -
how do you tax that? Tax probably is paid for or by any employees.

Sandy Bloxs

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:14:08 AM11/19/09
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er - good point.
I guess seeing as he's their only man, I consider him an independent.
You've made a very good point, though.
I don't necessarily have anything against Family First, though, just
the retard they've put into the senate.

Seon Ferguson

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:21:30 AM11/19/09
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"jg" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Good point about charity organisations. Ok maybe we should let them not pay
tax. But there is no way Scientology is a religion. It was made up by El Ron
Hubbord, a science fiction writer.

jg

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:49:18 AM11/19/09
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Minorities and independents are similar in that libs will vote one way,
labs the other often for purely political reasons. There is more chance
an independent will vote for a right reason, but a minority member might
vote for a mixture of those reasons plus party policy... which in some
cases could be more kooky than any of the others'.

BDK

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In article <0c-dnf2fxuydb5nW...@westnet.com.au>,
seo...@gmail.com says...

Every religion is made up by someone to start it off..
--

BDK..
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Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.

Seon Ferguson

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"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
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But with scientology we can say who really wrote it and why and stuff. With
the others we can't know for sure who wrote their holly books. Well I'm
pretty sure Muhammad wrote the Koran but who knows.

Kadaitcha Man

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Seon Ferguson, ye putrefying meddling priest, should all despair that
hath revolted wives, the tenth of mankind would hang themselves, ye
noted:

> But with scientology we can say who really wrote it and why and
> stuff.

CAUSE WHY? AND STUFF? AWESOME! LIKE THAT YEAH! FREAKY! YEAH! LIKE WONDERING!
WOW!

So, why and stuff?

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> Seon Ferguson, ye putrefying meddling priest, should all despair
> that hath revolted wives, the tenth of mankind would hang
> themselves, ye noted:
>
>> But with scientology we can say who really wrote it and why and
>> stuff.
>
> CAUSE WHY? AND STUFF? AWESOME! LIKE THAT YEAH! FREAKY! YEAH! LIKE
> WONDERING! WOW!
>
> So, why and stuff?
>

Its the groovy.

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> Fuck me dead, hey. Lord have mercy, on us all.
>

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:30:49 PM11/27/09
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Sandy Bloxs wrote:
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> er - good point.
> I guess seeing as he's their only man, I consider him an independent.
> You've made a very good point, though.
> I don't necessarily have anything against Family First, though, just
> the retard they've put into the senate.


Family First have lunatics in their party and as such can never be
trusted. One of their members mail-bombed his electorate with attack
plans for TAB's, bottleshops, any non-Christian church, brothels and
anything else that didn't fit with his Jesus-Taliban views and called on
everyone to go and tear the places down. Complete lunatic fucktard.

Hunter

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:31:07 PM11/27/09
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1000% agreed.

Hunter

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Nov 27, 2009, 9:33:20 PM11/27/09
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Hartley Patterson wrote:
> seo...@gmail.com says:
>
>>> All religion, especially Catholicism, should have their tax free
> status
>>> clawed back; not just the Fraudologists!
>> Good point. I think it's insane that religions even have tax free status in
>> the first place.
>
> See sig. 'All religions are bad' is a conversation stopper, used by those
> who don't want to get off their butts and do anything. See 'all
> politicians are corrupt, I don't bother to vote'.
>
> Removing Government subsidies won't stop the forced abortions, quack
> medicine and breaking up of families in Scientology.


No but it will return money to the govt coffers rather than having to
raise taxes for those dollars. Especially when Christianity especially
is using this tax-free status to buy up towns and drive non-members out
of the towns by establishing businesses which are tax-free and using
that advantage to drive all other local industry out of business.

Take a look at the Brethren, they're very big on this.

jg

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:55:22 AM11/28/09
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Which tax exactly?
GST on purchases they have as much right as any other business to be
registered and claim back?
Tax on donations in? Tax on donations to the poor?

Hunter

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:13:31 AM11/28/09
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Nope, you're missing the important stuff. Businesses run by religion are
exempt from stuff like income tax, GST, Fringe benefits, land tax, stamp
duty, payroll tax, car registration, council rates and some power/water
bills if Today Tonight is to be believed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5cGMwsfOWU

religious extremists like the Christian Brethren are actively using this
in Australia to drive hard working non-religious Aussies out of business
because they can't compete, so it's not just unfair, it's been used by
religion for works of pure evil.

jg

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Nov 28, 2009, 1:38:53 AM11/28/09
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Most mainstream religions aren't involved in actual business, just
matches, hatches, dispatches and charitable work. Their main income is
from donations. Their turnovers, assets etc more like a big club.

I know that doesn't cover others like scientology with even debatable
credentials as a church and no apparent benefit to the broader
community, but would you really want to apply a blanket punishment like
that on say, the Salvos?

Gordon Levi

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Nov 28, 2009, 8:28:11 AM11/28/09
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jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:

>Hunter wrote:
>> Krudd the Dud wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:31 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's about bloody time!
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-EvygFPNIE
>>>
>>> All religion, especially Catholicism, should have their tax free status
>>> clawed back; not just the Fraudologists!
>>
>>
>> 1000% agreed.
>
>
>Which tax exactly?

At least in Victoria, Churches are exempt from land tax and payroll
tax.

JW

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Nov 28, 2009, 3:28:31 PM11/28/09
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Specially "The Salvos" Bigoted and corrupt.
Give them NOTHING!!!
J.


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Krudd the Dud

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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:28:31 +1100, "JW" <Here@home> wrote:

>Specially "The Salvos" Bigoted and corrupt.
>Give them NOTHING!!!

How could you say that?

They appear to be the only ones who help less fortunate people.

jg

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Nov 28, 2009, 4:56:56 PM11/28/09
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They are not the only ones by a long shot, just the best and most
obvious example.

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