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THE BEATLES AND THE SATANISTS

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Richard Vizzutti

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Unlike their happy go lucky image, the Beatles were hard core occultic
anti-christs. Check out http://www.stargods.org/BeatlesEvil.html

-Rick-


Douglas Berry

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:29:09 GMT, a wanderer, known to us only as
"Richard Vizzutti" <washin...@shaw.ca> warmed at our fire and
told this tale:

>Unlike their happy go lucky image, the Beatles were hard core occultic
>anti-christs. Check out http://www.stargods.org/BeatlesEvil.html

Wow, you will believe anything, won't you?
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Douglas E. Berry grid...@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.

Hit1Hard

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On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:36:19 -0500, Douglas Berry wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 16:29:09 GMT, a wanderer, known to us only as
> "Richard Vizzutti" <washin...@shaw.ca> warmed at our fire and told
> this tale:
>
>>Unlike their happy go lucky image, the Beatles were hard core occultic
>>anti-christs. Check out http://www.stargods.org/BeatlesEvil.html
>
> Wow, you will believe anything, won't you?

Imagine

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't to hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world would be as one

Imagine no possesions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world would be as one


If thats "Occult" or "Satanism", count me in!

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Richard Vizzutti

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> Wow, you will believe anything, won't you?

Wow. You won't believe anything will you?

-Rick-
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Richard Vizzutti

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>If thats "Occult" or "Satanism", count me in!

No. It's communism. The next best thing.

-Rick-
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> (regarding lyrics to "Imagine") Hit1Hard <Hit.On...@IAE.nl> wrote:
>> If thats "Occult" or "Satanism", count me in!


Yes, it might be Satanism, though not very "occult" it seems.
Satan is a false peacemaker who never makes war. Ask yourself
how the "imposed peace" might occur -- perhaps by the deliberate
restriction of freedom to make war, i.e. removing powers of Congress?
Why should any nation be denied the capacity to make war, but by
forces of globalist (corporate) totalitarianism? What would be the
outcome upon human species of "unceasing peace" in the world?
Ask yourself if the view that denies war is really tenable. The Bible
mentions "a time for war, and a time for peace." Revelations concerns
an account of Judgment Day: is it one philosophical contention of the
contributors on this thread that there will never be a Judgment Day?
Without judgment, then how would the "great separation" occur?


"Richard Vizzutti" <washin...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> No. It's communism. The next best thing.


Perhaps you should then go live in the communist world, or what
was left of it, and then get back with us concerning your prognosis.


>>> "Richard Vizzutti" <washin...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> Unlike their happy go lucky image, the Beatles were hard core occultic
>>>> anti-christs. Check out http://www.stargods.org/BeatlesEvil.html

>> Douglas Berry wrote:
>>> Wow, you will believe anything, won't you?


A Satanic link to the Beatles is a likely possibility, actually.


> Hit1Hard <Hit.On...@IAE.nl> wrote:
>> Imagine
>>
>> Imagine there's no heaven


Why not just say: "Imagine there's no God?"


>> It's easy if you try
>> No hell below us


No assholes to wipe before flushing, then?


>> above us only sky


Technically speaking, the "sky" consists of Earth's
atmosphere, since "outer space" encompasses a circuit
around the entire planet. The OED lists "heaven" as one
of the references for "sky" however, in defs. 2a, 3, 4, which
leads that Beatle lyricist into an -illogical- contradiction:


sky, n. -( Oxford English Dictionary )-


1. A cloud. Obs.

c1220 Bestiary 66 Up he te, til at he e heuene se, ur skies sexe and
seuene til he cume to heuene. c1250 Gen. & Ex. 3255 Bi-foren hem fle
an skie brit at nit hem made e weie lit. c1384 CHAUCER H. Fame III.
1600 A certeyn wynde..blewe so hydously and hye That hyt ne left not
a skye In alle the welkene. 1390 GOWER Conf. II. 50 Al sodeinly Sche
passeth, as it were a Sky, Al clene out of this ladi sihte. c1407
LYDG. Reson & Sens. 1007 As sterris in the frosty nyght, Whanne
walkne is most bryght, With-oute cloude or any skye. c1430 Min.
Poems (Percy Soc.) 161 The somerys day is..seelden seyn, With so
cleer hayr, but that ther is som skye. 1500-20 DUNBAR Poems lxix. 3
Quhone sabill all the hewin arrayis, With mystie vapouris, cluddis
and skyis. ?a1550 Sterne of Redempt. 31 in Dunbar's Poems (1893) 329
To the superne eternall regioun, Quhair noxiall skyis may mak no
sogeorn.

fig. 14.. Epiph. in Tundale's Vis. (1843) 121 Thus..trw menyng
darketh with a skye That we in Englysch callon flaturye. a1529
SKELTON Replyc. 165 Ye soored ouer hye.., Your names to magnifye,
Among the scabbed skyes Of Wycliffes flesshe flyes.

2. a. the skies, the clouds (obs.); the upper region of the air;
the heavens. Chiefly poet.

a1300 XV Signa in E.E.P. (1862) 11 e holi man telli..at e skeis so
sal spec an..in steuen as hit wer man. 1390 GOWER Conf. II. 261 Sche
drof forth bothe char and whel Above in thair among the Skyes. c1400
Destr. Troy 6016 The day was done, dymmet the skyes. 1508 DUNBAR
Gold. Targe 25 The skyes rang for schoutyng of the larkis. 1590
SHAKES. Mids. N. IV. i. 121 The skies, the fountaines, euery region
neere, Seeme all one mutuall cry. 1614 C. BROOKE Ghost Rich. III,
Poems (1872) 103 To..curle his leauie hayres The more in bows, and
armes, that kisse the skyne. 1697 DRYDEN Virg. Georg. III. 248 Late
at Night, when Stars adorn the Skies. 1754 GRAY Pleasure 51 The
common Sun, the air, the skies To him are opening Paradise. 1784
MICKLE Cumnor Hall ii, Now nought was heard beneath the skies, The
sounds of busy life were still. 1837 CARLYLE Fr. Rev. I. VII. ix,
With uplifted right hand..to these pouring skies. 1860 LD. LYTTON
Lucile I. iv. 12 There was war in the skies!

transf. and fig. 1562 WINET Wks. (S.T.S.) I. 20 We exhort ow, and
adiuris ow also,..to descend from the hie skyis. 1585 HIGINS tr.
Junius' Nomencl. 190/2 Machina,..the skies or counterfet heauen ouer
the stage.

b. Used without the, in limited sense.

1503 DUNBAR Thistle & Rose 41 Illumynit our with orient skyis
brycht. 1748 GRAY Alliance 55 A brighter Day and Skies of azure Hue.
1781 COWPER Truth 138 The rude inclemency of wintry skies. 1907 H.
WYNDHAM Flare of Footlights xxx, It was a dismal day, with leaden
skies overhead.

3. a. the sky, the apparent arch or vault of heaven, whether
covered with cloud or clear and blue; the firmament.

a1300 Cursor M. 1341 Him thoght..at to e sky it raght e toppe. 1390
GOWER Conf. I. 312 The Sky wax derk, the wynd gan blowe, The firy
welkne gan to thondre. c1470 Gol. & Gaw. 610 Quhen the day can
daw,..And the sone in the sky wes schynyng so schir. 1508 DUNBAR
Golden Targe 50, I saw approch agayn the orient sky, A saill. 1546
J. HEYWOOD Prov. (1867) 9 When the sky fallth we shall have larks.
1594 SHAKES. Rich. III, V. iii. 283 The sky doth frowne, and lowre
vpon our Army. 1635 R. N. tr. Camden's Hist. Eliz. II. 221 The skye
being extreame cold with snow and frost. 1672 R. WILD Poet. Licent.
34 If the Skie fall, down-comes the price of Larks. 1728 POPE Dunc.
I. 178 As..lead itself can fly, And pond'rous slugs cut swiftly
thro' the sky. 1774 M. MACKENZIE Maritime Surv. 5 A dark Flag on
that [pole] which appears between you and the Sky. 1843 RUSKIN Mod.
Paint. I. II. i. §5. 204 The sky is to be considered as a
transparent blue liquid, in which..clouds are suspended. 1876 MOZLEY
Univ. Serm. vi. 135 No people have ever existed to whom the sky has
not suggested one set of ideas.

b. With descriptive or limiting term.

1613 CHAPMAN Maske Inns Court, Ouer this..in an Euening sky, the
ruddy Sunne was seen ready to be set. a1700 EVELYN Diary 1 Nov.
1660, The Sunn represented by a face and raies of gold, upon an
azure skie. 1798 COLERIDGE Anc. Mar. II. vii, All in a hot and
copper sky, The bloody Sun..did stand. 1814 WORDSW. Yarrow Visited
17 A blue sky bends o'er Yarrow vale. 1855 TENNYSON Maud V. ii, With
her..wild voice pealing up to the sunny sky. 1869 E. DUNKIN (title),
The Midnight Sky: Familiar Notes on the Stars and Planets.

c. Without article.

1596 SPENSER F.Q. IV. iii. 13 Into a starre in sky. 1611 SHAKES.
Cymb. V. v. 146 A Nobler Sir ne're liu'd 'Twixt sky and ground. 1649
JER. TAYLOR Gt. Exemp. II. 93 But the greatest part of this paisage
and Landtskip is sky. 1725 POPE Odyssey III. 411 A length of Ocean
and unbounded sky. 1805 WORDSW. Prelude III. 107, I..perused The
common countenance of earth and sky. 1855 TENNYSON Maud I. XVIII. v,
The countercharm of space and hollow sky. 1884 Jrnl. R. Meteorol.
Soc. (1885) XI. 231 There was a portion of blue sky between the Helm
cloud and the Bar.

d. fig. or in fig. phrases. Also, out of a clear (or blue) sky and
varr. = out of the blue s.v. BLUE n. 5a; (b) to the sky or skies,
to the highest possible degree, enthusiastically, extravagantly;
(c) in the skies, in an ecstasy, in the realms of fancy; (d) the
sky's the limit, there is no apparent limit.

(a) c1586 C'TESS PEMBROKE Ps. LXXX. i, O God,..Display thy faces
skie on us thine owne. 1597 SHAKES. 2 Hen. IV, IV. iii. 56, I, in
the cleare Skie of Fame, o're-shine you. 1793 COWPER To Mary i, The
twentieth year is well-nigh past, Since first our sky was overcast.
1878 BROWNING La Saisiaz 61, I bid himat suspicion of first cloud
athwart his sky..die! 1875 TENNYSON Q. Mary V. iii. 264 So from a
clear sky falls the thunderbolt! 1897 W. E. NORRIS Marietta's Mar.
xxxi. 224 He dropped upon me suddenly out of a clear sky and began
asking questions which I had to answer. 1903 WODEHOUSE Tales of St.
Austin's 2 To spring an examination on you in the middle of the term
out of a blue sky, as it were, was underhand and unsportsmanlike.
1924 E. O'NEILL Welded I, in All God's Chillun got Wings I. 98 It
was revelation, thena miracle out of the sky! 1958 G. GREENE Our Man
in Havana III. ii. 115 She's had two unhappy coups de foudre
herself. They came quite suddenly, out of a clear sky.

(b) 1617 MORYSON Itin. I. 104 Italians..alwaies extoll their owne
things to the skie. 1670 G. H. Hist. Cardinals II. III. 191 Those of
any Piety or Religion, commended it to the Skyes. 1731-8 SWIFT
Polite Conv. 71 You were extoll'd to the Skies I assure you. 1815 W.
H. IRELAND Scribbleomania 25 Rhymsters who praise 'em to the skies,
And meanest actions eulogize. 1915 W. S. MAUGHAM Of Human Bondage
xlii. 198 Red-nosed comedians were lauded to the skies for their
sense of character. 1955 D. GARNETT Golden Echo II. i. 16 If he had
praised it to the skies or damned it, or even told the truth, not
much harm would have been done. 1973 P. J. SEYBOLD Revolutionary
Educ. in China xiv. 156 At one time they shouted ‘Long live the
teachers’.., praising them to the skies.

(c) 1869 MRS. H. WOOD Roland Yorke xx, Roland was in the skies at once.

(d) 1920 Current History (U.S.) Oct. 142/2 (caption) The sky is now
her limit. 1933 Daily Mirror 26 Oct. 12/4 To say ‘the sky was his
limit’ definitely adds something to the usual ‘he succeeded’ or ‘he
rose in the world’. 1934 WEBSTER s.v. sky, The sky is the limit.
1936 C. SANDBURG People, Yes 160 ‘Did you say the sky is the limit?’
‘Yes, we won't go any higher than the sky.’ 1942 E. PAUL Narrow St.
xxiv. 211 Every municipality, excepting small villages, had its
official Mont-de-Piété, and the sky was the limit. 1952 W. R.
BURNETT Vanity Row vii. 68 If there's ever anything we can do for
you... You know. Sky's the limit, as people say. 1961 L. MUMFORD
City in History ii. 52 The cult of power exulted in its own
boundless display... The sky was the limit. 1977 H. FAST Immigrants
II. 97 As far as the Pacific passage is concerned, rates are going
up and the sky's the limit.

4. poet. or rhet. a. The celestial regions; heaven; the heavenly
power, the deity.

1590 SHAKES. Mids. N. V. i. 308 Now am I dead, now am I fled, my
soule is in the sky. 1634 MILTON Comus 242 So maist thou be
translated to the skies. 1697 DRYDEN Alex. Feast 179 He rais'd a
Mortal to the Skies; She drew an Angel down. 1731 SWIFT Judas Wks.
1755 IV. I. 165 The just vengeance of incensed skies. 1781 COWPER
Charity 70 Thou that hast..dared despise Alike the wrath and mercy
of the skies. 1810 SHELLEY Despair 8 In the eternal mansions of the
sky. 1868 LYNCH Rivulet CLI. ii, Time loses his scythe When he
enters the skies.

b. The sky (sense 3) of a particular region; hence, climate, clime.

1701 ADDISON Let. to Ld. Halifax 136 We envy not the warmer Clime
that lies In ten Degrees of more indulgent Skies. 1842 TENNYSON You
ask me why vii, I seek a warmer sky. 1856 KANE Arctic Explor. II.
xxi. 207 Strange that these famine-pinched wanderers of the ice
should rejoice in sports..like the children of our own smiling sky.

c. In joc. phr. the (or that) great in the sky: with personal
subj., God considered as the omniscient exponent of an earthly art
or profession; of a place or structure, the type of a paradise
especially suited to the deceased.

1977 MCKNIGHT & TOBLER Bob Marley v. 62 Chuck Willis, the ‘Sheik of
the Stroll’ became one of the first members of the great rock group
in the sky. 1979 Times 24 Nov. 15/7 It is up to that Great Film
Critic in the sky to deal with Life of Brian in His own way. 1980 D.
BLOODWORTH Trapdoor xvii. 107 There's a Director of Central
Intelligence up there in that great Langley in the sky. 1982 Times
26 Jan. 10/3 Daphne, the pelican, has gone to that great aviary in
the sky after 25 years residence..in St James's Park.

5. a. The colour of the sky; sky-blue.

1667 DRYDEN Maiden Queen II. i, Those knots of sky do not So well
with the dead colour of her face. 1668 G. ETHEREGE She wou'd if she
cou'd III. ii, A whole bevy of damsels in sky, and pink, and
flame-coloured taffetas. 1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. III. 506/2
Pink, white, sky, and maize gros de Naples for ladies' bonnets. 1894
[see HELIO2]. 1923 Weekly Dispatch 11 Feb. 14 (Advt.), Will not
Fade... Silky finish. Ivory, Biscuit, Sky, Coral [etc.]. 1949 Radio
Times 15 July 44/3 Lovely pastel shadesPeach, Apple, Sky. 1976
National Observer (U.S.) 22 May 17/4 (Advt.), The plain shades...
Rust, Beige, Tan, Sky, White, Black.

b. The representation of a sky in a painting, etc.

1747 FRANCIS tr. Horace, Art P. 34 note, It is chiefly in this View,
that Ruisdale's Waters, and Claude Lorrain's Skies are so admirable.
1815 J. SMITH Panorama Sci. & Art II. 746 For a pure mid-day
sky,..vermilion and white as the sky approaches the horizon. 1878
RUSKIN Notes 43 The sky is unusually careless.

6. ‘The upper rows of pictures in a gallery; also, the space near
the ceiling’ (Cent. Dict. 1891).

7. The small opening in the roof of a cab, used as a means of
communication.

1907 Daily Chron. 18 Oct. 4/4, I did..steal the..box from his
hansom-cab, and the driver was looking through the sky.

8. Rhyming slang. ellipt. for SKY-ROCKET n. 3: pocket.

1890 in Barrère & Leland Dict. Slang II. 248/2 The Oof Bird's scarce
and the landlady's fly, And there isn't a mash with a mag in his
sky. 1898 A. M. BINSTEAD Pink 'Un & Pelican xi. 237 After thirty-six
'ands 'ad bin all over him, tore his trowseys an' left 'im as naked
as Barth-Sheberwhy, even then we never found his sky! 1928 E.
WALLACE Gunner xviii. 140 ‘Put that in your sky... In your pocket,’
she said impatiently. 1979 P. HILL Washermen lx. 132 Said 'ee found
it [sc. a gun] on the rattler. Put it in 'is sky when 'ee got off at
Leicester Square.

9. attrib. and Comb. Now chiefly Lit. and poet. a. Attrib., in
sense ‘of or in the sky’, as sky-children, -glare, -pebble, etc.

1582 STANYHURST Æneis I. (Arb.) 18 Shee pouts, that Ganymed by Ioue
too skitop is hoysed. 1634 MILTON Comus 83, I must put off These my
skie robes spun out of Iris Wooff. 1653 H. MORE Conject. Cabbal.
(1713) 53 The Sun and the Moon (according to this Hypothesis) will
prove the two great Lights, and the Stars but scatter'd sky-pebbles.
a1821 KEATS Hyperion I. 133 Beautiful things made new, for the
surprise Of the sky-children. 1865 DICKENS Mut. Fr. III. viii, In
the sky-glare of the lights of the little town. 1882 JEFFERIES Bevis
I. 251 It was a sky-storm, and the lightning was at least a mile
high. 1904 W. B. YEATS Pot of Broth in Hour-Glass 78 Give me some
vessel till I give this sky-woman a taste of it. 1916 BLUNDEN
Harbingers 64 He stells the meadows in similitude Of stars in black
sky-spaces. 1920 D. H. LAWRENCE Lost Girl xiv. 320 White clouds, in
the sort of hollow sky-dome. 1930 W. H. AUDEN Poems 9 Though heart
fears all heart cries for, rebuffs with mortal beat Skyfall, the
legs sucked under, adder's bite. 1946 L. B. LYON Rough Walk Home 11
Lift arm or lift an eyebrow, He'll weave his sky-brow Spell round
the offender. 1959 D. DAVIE Forests of Lithuania vi. 59 Fires
cluster and dart Cross over, light over light Overarches the
sky~round. 1979 D. WILLIAMS Genesis & Exodus vii. 127 He enjoyed the
wide sky-sweep of the fens.

b. With agent nouns, as sky-flyer, -gazer, -holder, etc.

1812 COLMAN Br. Grins, Fire xlviii, The monarch of Olympus spake; It
made his petty tenants quake, And the large sky-holders obedient
bowed. 1838 ‘T. TREDDLEHOYLE’ Ben Bunt 19 Bein a bit an a ski-peepar
ma sen. 1891 Times 5 Oct. 3/5 Splendid buildings..veritable
‘sky~piercers’, as most modern American aspiring business houses
are. 1897 Daily News 3 June 5/6 There would be hardly a point..where
at least the pyrotechnic sky-flyers could not be seen. 1930 V. WOOLF
On being Ill 19 Pedestrians would be impeded and disconcerted by a
public sky-gazer.

c. With pa. pples., as sky-blasted, -born, -bred, -capped, -cast,
-dyed, etc. Similar combs. are common in the 19th and 20th cent.

1589 R. GREENE Menaphon Sig. F1v, A Skie borne forme. 1595 SPENSER
Friend's Passion 31 The skiebred Egle roiall bird. 1599 J. DAVIES
Immort. Soul, Introd. xi, What is this Knowledge, but the Sky
stoll'n Fire? c1611 CHAPMAN Iliad VII. 346 He held his scepter vp,
to all the skie thron'd powres. 1611 SHAKES. Cymb. V. iv. 96 The
Thunderer, whose Bolt..Sky-planted, batters all rebelling Coasts.
1667 MILTON P.L. v. 285 The third his feet Shaddowd from either
heele with featherd maile Skie-tinctur'd grain. 1725 POPE Odyss. XI.
727 There figs sky-dy'd, a purple hue disclose. 1742 YOUNG Nt. Th.
VI. 418 Sky-born, sky-guided, sky-returning race! 1747 COLLINS Ode
Pity ii, Let the nations view Thy skyworn robes. 1807 J. BARLOW
Columbiad III. 110 Far beneath, the sky-borne waters ride, Veil the
dark deep and sheet the mountain's side. a1821 KEATS Hyperion I. 310
Earth-born And sky-engender'd, Son of Mysteries! 1878 B. TAYLOR
Deukalion III. ii. 108 The sky-cast shadow of a Hebrew chief. 1887
BOWE N Æneid III. 291 Soon thy sky-capped towers, Phæacia, vanish
from view. 1923 D. H. LAWRENCE Birds, Beasts & Flowers 17 And sipped
down, perhaps, with a sip of Marsala So that the rambling,
sky-dropped grape can add its music to yours. 1934 L. B. LYON White
Hare 14 Wind-scoured and sky-burned The fell was. 1946 DYLAN THOMAS
Deaths & Entrances 27 May his hunger go howling on bare white bones
Past the statues of the stables and the sky roofed sties. 1977
Hongkong Standard 12 Apr. 3/3 Aides say Mr. Peres originated and
pushed the idea of last July's skyborne rescue from Uganda of 100
hostages.

d. With pres. pples., as sky-aspiring, -cleaving, -falling,
-measuring, -pointing, -reaching, etc. This type is also common
in the 19th and 20th cent.

1593 SHAKES. Rich. II, I. iii. 130 Sky-aspiring and ambitious
thoughts. 1596 SPENSER F.Q. VI. x. 22 They are the daughters of
sky-ruling Ioue. 1600 NASHE Summer's Last Will 1492 Skie-measuring
Mathematicians. 1612 DRAYTON Poly-olb. ix. 66 Mighty Raran shooke
his proud sky-kissing top. 1633 DRUMMOND OF HAWTHORNDEN Speeches to
Pr. Chas. Wks. (1711) 39/1 Nero's Sky-resembling Gold-ceil'd Halls.
1743 FRANCIS tr. Horace, Odes III. x. 21 Thy Threshold hard-hearted,
and sky-falling Rain. 1788 P. FRENEAU Hermit of Saba in Misc. Works
31 When thou, sky-pointing Saba, Shall tremble on thy base most
fearfully! 1796 E. HAMILTON Lett. Hindoo Rajah (1811) II. 117 Whose
trees have their sky-touching heads overshadowed by..mountains. 1819
Sky-aspiring [see BALMILY adv.]. 1820 SHELLEY Prometh. Unb. II. iii.
28 The keen sky-cleaving mountains. 1837 CARLYLE Fr. Rev. I. IV. iv,
Amid skyrending vivats, and blessings from every heart. 1844 J. R.
LOWELL Poems 274 They tell us that our land was made for s ong, With
its huge rivers and sky-piercing peaks. 1887 Times 29 Aug. 4/4
Endless sky-reaching spires. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 563 Stephen with hat
ashplant frogsplits in middle highkicks with skykicking mouth shut
hand clasp part under thigh. 1933 C. DAY LEWIS Magnetic Mountain 9
Void are the valleys..And dumb the sky-dividing hills. 1957 L.
MACNEICE Visitations 42 Felt suddenly harassed, a sky-splitting
headache with nothing to cause it. 1977 New Scientist 24 Feb. 478/1
A spiky, sky-piercing crenellation of buildings running down the
Royal Mile from the hunched bulk of the castle to the rounded towers
of the Palace of Holyroodhouse.


10. Special combs.: sky bear N. Amer. slang, (an officer in) a
police helicopter (cf. SMOKEY BEAR 2); sky-blink = ICE-BLINK 1;
sky-blotch, the dark outline of a building against the evening
sky; sky border Theatr., a border of painted cloth, used both to
represent sky and to conceal the top of the stage from the
audience; skycap N. Amer. [after REDCAP 5], a porter at an
airport; sky-clad a. slang, nude, unclothed (esp. in Witchcraft);
sky-clear a., clear as the sky; sky cloth Theatr., a backcloth
painted or coloured to represent the sky (cf. sky border above);
sky-clothed a. = sky-clad adj. above; sky-diving, the sport of
parachuting from an aeroplane with a long period of (freq.
acrobatic) free fall before the parachute is opened; also as adj.,
sky-diver and (as back-formation) sky-dive v. intr.; sky-drop
Theatr. = sky cloth above; sky fighter, an aeroplane or airman
that engages in aerial combat; hence sky-fight; sky filter, a
filter (usu. yellow and denser at the top than at the bottom) for
improving the rendering of a bright sky in black and white
photography; sky-fire (see quot. 1710); sky-flower, a shrub or
small tree, Duranta repens, of the family Verbenaceæ, native to
Central and South America and bearing clusters of pale blue
flowers followed by yellow berries (cf. PIGEON-BERRY 1);
sky-flyer, an ambitious person; sky-gazer (see quots.); sky-god
Religion and Mythol., a god of or in the sky; also sky-goddess;
skyman Journalists' slang, a paratrooper; sky-mark, a thing
standing out against the sky (nonce-use); sky-marker Mil., a
parachute flare used by raiding aircraft to mark a target (cf.
PARACHUTE n. 5); also Comb., as sky-marker bomb; also sky-marking;
sky marshal U.S., a plain-clothes armed guard on an aeroplane
employed to counter hi-jacking; sky-organ, the wind (nonce-use);
sky-path, a route taken through the sky, a skyway; sky pilot slang
(see quot. 1893); also, a chaplain in any of the armed forces,
prison service, etc., and gen., a priest or parson, a clergyman;
sky-pipit U.S. = SKYLARK n. 2; sky-puppy (see PUPPY n. 3c); sky
race, in British India, an amateur steeplechase; sky-ride U.S., a
device for conveying passengers at a considerable height above
ground, spec. one at the World Fair at Chicago in 1933-4; sky
screen, an array of photocells used to record or detect the travel
of an aircraft, projectile, etc.; sky-setting Sc., sunset; sky
shade Photogr. (see quots.); sky-ship, a very large craft for air
or space travel; sky-shouting, the sending of advertisements or
messages from an aircraft to the ground by means of a loudspeaker;
also as adj. and sky-shouter; sky-stone, a meteorite; sky-surfing
U.S. = hang-gliding s.v. HANG-; hence sky-surfer; skywatch orig.
U.S., the process or activity of watching the sky for aircraft or
other phenomena; hence skywatcher; sky wave, a radio wave
reflected back towards the earth's surface by the ionosphere (cf.
ground wave s.v. GROUND n. 18a).

1975 L. DILLS CB Slanguage Dict. 54 *Sky bear, police helicopter.
1977 Daily Colonist (Victoria, B.C.) 3 July 1/2 (heading) Sky bear
keeps eye on Island's drivers.


>> Imagine all the people living for today


Which denies them a liberty of living for yesterday and tomorrow.
Hmmm. Wasn't another famous Beatle's tune titled "Yesterday?"

>> Imagine there's no countries


Right. Just one globalist totalitarian corporate mess, without
popular sovereignty, and without governmental accountability.


>> It isn't to hard to do
>> Nothing to kill or die for


In other words, no ideals, and no core beliefs...


>> And no religion too


Disingenuous. Beatles fans have formed their own religion.


>> Imagine all the people living life in peace


Yet the people of Israel are "those who struggle." There is
no peace for the wanderer. Richard claims these are lyrics of
"communism" and yet the Beatles became quite rich, not sharing
all of their wealth and property as "good communists" ought to do.

>> You may say I'm a dreamer
>> But I'm not the only one
>> I hope someday you'll join us
>> And the world would be as one


What God has driven asunder no man can put together.


>> Imagine no possesions


Easily said and done, but only by the rich and famous.


>> I wonder if you can
>> No need for greed or hunger,
>> A brotherhood of man
>> Imagine all the people sharing all the world
>>
>> You may say I'm a dreamer
>> But I'm not the only one
>> I hope someday you'll join us
>> And the world would be as one

> Hit1Hard <Hit.On...@IAE.nl> wrote:
>> If thats "Occult" or "Satanism", count me in!


Be careful what you wish for: you just might get it.


- regards
- jb


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1837 MACDOUGALL tr. Graah's E. Coast Greenl. 134 This *sky-blink, or
ice-blink, as it is usually termed by English navigators, is a
whitish luminous appearance seen above ice.

1879 Cassell's Techn. Educ. I. 311/2 The aspect of the ‘*sky-blotch’
of an architectural edifice is very important.

1846 G. A. A'BECKETT Quizziology Brit. Drama 16 Pointing with a
property sword to the *sky borders. 1896 W. ARCHER Theatr. World of
1895 iv. 28 Above it hang mathematically horizontal ‘sky-borders’,
apparently representing a flat layer of fog in the upper air. 1918 G.
B. SHAW in Nation 22 June 310/1 The scenery made Old Drury feel young
again. Wings, sky-borders, set pieces: nothing was missing.

1950 Official Gaz. (U.S. Patent Office) 26 Dec. 1066/2 *Sky Cap. For
General Porter Service. 1966 National Observer (U.S.) 7 Nov. 6/5 They
would reduce the number of Negro ‘sky caps’ employed at the airport.
1972 T. KENRICK Tough One to Lose ii. 33 He took a job as a skycap at
the International Airport. 1977 J. WAMBAUGH Black Marble (1978) xv.
342 He spotted a skycap carrying some bags towards the front.

1909 WEBSTER, *Sky-clad. 1970 R. BUCKLAND in K. Singer Tales from
Unknown 296 Witches always work naked or, as they call it, skyclad.

1868 GLADSTONE Juv. Mundi x. (1869) 386 His soul and actions are
*sky-clear.

1933 *Sky-cloth [see BATTEN n.1 1b]. 1981 Times Lit. Suppl. 4 Sept.
998/3 Instead of a naturalistically painted backcloth he used a plain
sheet of colour (what we should call a sky cloth).

1924 EARL OF RONALDSHAY India xxiv. 305 The Digambara, or
*sky-clothed ascetic, must live stark naked.

1965 N.Y. Times 24 Apr. 21 Mary Cushing..snorkles, surfs, skis and
*sky-dives.

1961 Times 3 July 6/4 The screech of the *skydiver was heard above
Hereford this weekend as..people saw a demonstration of the latest
‘official’ British Army sport. 1970 Daily Tel. 5 Oct. 1/1 Two women
sky~divers and a man were injured when they parachuted at 2,500 ft
from a De Havilland aircraft..last night. 1979 P. NIESEWAND Member of
Club xii. 84 A flypast might be nice... How about some sky-divers?
Everyone likes them.

1959 News Chron. 8 July 4/7 The sport..of ‘*sky-diving’ in which
certain adventurous types turn somersaults in the air before opening
their parachutes. 1962 Daily Tel. 7 Aug. 11/7 A sky-diving team will
leave London Airport today..to compete in the sixth world sport
parachuting championships. 1979 R. JAFFE Class Reunion (1980) II. ix.
275 Apparently she's taken up skydiving... She's going to kill
herself.

1901 C. MORRIS Life on Stage xii. 84 In this tableau the circular
opening in the flat, backed by a *sky-drop and with blue clouds
hanging about the opening, represented heaven.

1969 G. MACBETH War Quartet 36 He was dead to this Antarctic
*sky-fight.

1937 Sun (Baltimore) 2 Mar. 1/3 The first of the army's super
*sky-fighters, a four engined Boeing bomber, dropped to a perfect
landing on snow-covered Langley Field at 2.09 P.M. today. 1943 R.
WHELAN Flying Tigers ix. 97 George Paxton..moved to break up this
shocking attack on a helpless airman, which violated the code of sky
fighters.

1930 G. E. BROWN Clerc's Photogr. xi. 83 *Sky filters are made in the
shape of a long rectangle, which is carried in a mount, allowing it
to be raised or lowered. 1970 M. J. SETHNA Photogr. v. 102 Where the
sky is light and bright, but the landscape is less bright or is dark,
the balance of tones can well be secured through the use of what is
known as ‘the graduated sky filter’.

1710 P. S. Wks. II. 262 *Sky-Fire is that in the Body of the Sun, and
other Heavenly Lights. 1906 Sky-fire [see night-web s.v. NIGHT n.
13a].

1938 D. WYMAN Hedges, Screens & Windbreaks II. 77 Tall Broad-leaved
Evergreens... Duranta plumieri, *Skyflower. 1971 Sky-flower [see
PIGEON-BERRY 1].

1887 Daily News 30 Nov. 3/4 Such a work, by a young *sky-flyer of
eighteen.

1854 BADHAM Halieut. 127 The name of this fish, uranoscopus, or
‘*sky-gazer’, is derived from the position of the eyes, which are
singularly planted on the crown of the head. 1867 SMYTH Sailor's
Word-bk. 630 Sky-gazer,..a sail of very light duck, over which
un-nameable sails have been set, which defy classification.

1907 H. M. CHADWICK Orig. Eng. Nation x. 245 On the strength of this
passage [in Gylfaginning] it has been supposed that Frey was
originally a *sky-god or sun-god. 1938 E. BEVAN Symbolism & Belief
ii. 30 The belief in the Sky-God may have, of course, two forms
according as the sky itself is personified, is identified with the
Person up there, or as the Person is conceived more
anthropomorphically. 1948 B. G. M. SUNDKLER Bantu Prophets in S. Afr.
i. 24 The lightning-magician, the priest of the sky-god, arrives much
sooner..at proficiency in his particular speciality. 1979 N.Y. Rev.
Bks. 25 Oct. 19/3 Now the Heavenly Father, or Aryan sky-god, is found
to be..simply irrelevant.

1959 New Larousse Encycl. Mythol. 23/2 Hathor... A *sky-goddess, she
was originally described as the daughter of Ra and the wife of Horus.
1982 N. FRYE Great Code iii. 70 Zeus..third in a line of sky-gods.
The earth-mother..tends to take on the characteristics of a
sky-goddess.

1952 John o' London's Weekly 18 Jan. 54/1 The failure of Fleet Street
to make paratroopers into *skymen. 1958 Daily Mail 18 July 1/2 Skymen
saved Hussein's life... But for the arrival of our paratroops
yesterday,..Hussein..would almost certainly have been assassinated.
1964 Sunday Tel. 14 June 3/4 (heading) Skymen hit the target.

1856 MISS MULOCK J. Halifax (1857) 101 The four tall poplars..were
our landmarks, and *skymarks too.

1943 Times 31 Dec. 4/6 The Pathfinder force used parachute flares
known as ‘*sky~markers’ which drift downwards very slowly, to mark
the target area. 1944 Times 17 Feb. 4/4 Flak was so violent when the
first sky-marker bombs were dropped that it was evident that the main
night fighter force was late. 1946 R.A.F. Jrnl. May 169 The red,
yellow and green T.I.s and the skymarker flares, remained the
principal weapons of P.F.F. throughout the war... The ‘wanganni’
skymarkers went down over Germany and load after load of destruction
followed.

1944 R. DIMBLEBY in War Report (B.B.C.) (1946) 281 Our job was to
replenish the flares already dropped by the Pathfinders ahead... This
was ‘*sky-marking’.

1968 Sunday Mail (Brisbane) 23 June 32/6 He is a member of a new
elite breed of law enforcement officers in Americathe *sky marshals.
His job is to prevent airliner hi-jacking... All the sky marshals are
volunteers from the ranks of the F.A.A.'s regular inspectors. 1971
Daily Colonist (Victoria, B.C.) 13 Mar. 25/6 A number of women
trained in marksmanship and hand-to-hand combat will join the men
assigned to the skymarshal force recently created to protect U.S.
airliners from hijackers.

1837 H. MARTINEAU Soc. Amer. II. 20 The next moment, the *sky-organ
began to blow in our rigging.

1931 F. SIMPICH in Nat. Geogr. Mag. Jan. 1 (heading) *Skypaths
through Latin America. 1958 Times 27 Oct. 10/1 Nearly 400 Glacier dry
bearings assist each Comet 4 on its smooth skypath.

1883 G. W. PECK Peck's Bad Boy 177 Look-a-here you *sky-pilot, this
thing has gone far enough. 1888 W. B. CHURCHWARD Blackbirding 22 A
dock missionary (we called him sky-pilot). 1893 Spectator 30 Dec.
952/2 A ‘Sky-pilot’, in sailor's parlance, is a clergyman generally,
and specially a clergyman who has a spiritual charge among seamen.
1910 Busy Man's Mag. Mar. 71/1, I was hailed as a ‘sky pilot’ by the
trio and invited to be sociable over a whisky bottle. 1922 JOYCE
Ulysses 305 One or two sky pilots having an eye around that there was
no goings on with the females. 1935 AUDEN & ISHERWOOD Dog beneath
Skin II. v. 114 Ort ter 'ave bin a sky pilot, you ort! 1973 B.
BROADFOOT Ten Lost Years xii. 140 At the missions you would get a
sermon, say 15 minutes of religion from a sky pilot. 1982 New
Scientist 18 Mar. 740/3 The first issue includes an attack on the
accuracy of radiocarbon dating by an English skypilot called Charles
Foley.

1884 COUES N. Amer. Birds 286 Neocorys, *Sky Pipits.

1858 G. F. ATKINSON Curry & Rice (ed. 2) xviii, The *Sky Races, which
to the uninitiated may be explained as a meeting for horses that have
enjoyed no specific training beyond what could be accomplished during
the interval of the ‘get-up’ and the ‘come-off’. 1885 LADY DUFFERIN
Jrnl. 11 June in Our Viceregal Life in India (1889) I. iv. 157 The
Simla sky races began today.

1933 Sun (Baltimore) 22 July 10/3 Two Concordia women, who attended
the World's Fair at Chicago recently ventured on the ‘*sky ride’, the
device which carries passengers across the grounds at a height of 200
feet. 1966 E. MCCULLOGH World's Fair Midways viii. 93 One of the
features of the fair [sc. Century of Progress Exposition] was the Sky
Ride, a monorail structure whose two giant towers stretched up
sixty-four stories... They were connected at the twenty-fourth story
by cables, from which so-called rocket cars were suspended.

1945 L. E. SIMON German Sci. Establishments (PB Rep. No. 19849) II.
ii. 48 One thing that was particularly notable was a large number of
photoelectric ‘*sky screens’. 1969 New Scientist 2 Oct. 25/3 The
accuracy of the sky screens is said to be two metres in azimuth, and
1·5 metres in elevation.

1731 Gentl. Mag. I. 31 On the last Monday of Nov. 1730, about *sky
setting.

1889 E. J. WALL Dict. Photogr. 177 *Sky shade, a piece of wood or
card used to shade the lens during exposure, to prevent reflections
from the sky or sun. 1909 G. L. JOHNSON Photographic Optics & Colour
Photogr. ii. 152 Skyshades are of great value in colour
photography..as without some such screen the skies are invariably
spoilt through overexposure. 1930 G. E. BROWN Clerc's Photogr. xi. 83
The most usual form of commercial sky shade..consists of a uniformly
graduated filter of gelatine or glass. 1973 D. A. SPENCER Focal Dict.
Photogr. Technol. 568 Sky shade, any form of shield attached to the
lens mount for preventing direct rays of the sun reaching the camera
lens. In USA, the term is sometimes used as another name for lens
hood.

1923 L. PAUER Day of Judgment 16 If possible..we are going to board
that *sky-ship. 1960 Analog Science Fact/Fiction Dec. 10/1 When we
first heard of the Sky Ship, we were on an island whose name..was
Yarzik. 1975 Times 18 Apr. 6/3 The Sky Ship, with a diameter of 30ft
and in the shape of a flying saucer..is a scaled-down prototype of a
planned vehicle..which will be 700 ft in diameter..able to carry a
payload of up to 400 tons.

1932 Children's Newspaper 23 Jan. 6/1 The inventor..can now quote
terms for Sky Shouting or Sky Advertising. Concerning the
*sky-shouters a really alarming invention has been successfully
tried. 1932 Flight 8 July 638/1 They recommend that *sky-shouting (by
means of a loud speaker) should be prohibited by law for all private
purposes. 1955 Times 9 June 8/2 The withdrawal of the surrender offer
was being conveyed to the terrorists by all possible means, including
radio and sky-shouting aircraft. 1962 Engineering 26 Oct. 564 The
practicability of long range speech transmission was seen during
British army operations in Malaya when a ‘sky-shouting’ installation
in an aircraft was used for propaganda purposes. 1973 Times 15 May
8/4 Last year 2,285 hours were logged by aircraft flying
‘sky-shouting’ patrols in which recorded propaganda messages were
relayed to Africans living in the bush.

1797 SOUTHEY Lett. fr. Spain (1808) II. 78 Let the heavier
*sky-stones come whence they may, these must have been formed in the
atmosphere.

1972 Popular Mechanics June 102/2 How long a *sky surfer can stay in
the air depends on wind strength and skill.

1972 Popular Sci. June 94/2 Today's hang-glider pilots like to call
their sport ‘*sky-surfing’. 1974 Sci. Amer. Dec. 138/1 The rapidly
evolving sport, which is known as sky surfing or hang gliding, makes
about equal demands on the enthusiast's skills as a pilot and as an
aerodynamicist.

1952 Sun (Baltimore) 17 July B7/5 (heading) 18,000 in Britain serve
on *skywatch. 1958 A. BUDRYS in Aldiss & Harrison Decade 1950s (1976)
68, I made it. Got to this Navy skywatch station. 1972 Oxford Times
21 Jan. 3/7 A full house is expected for next week's UFO convention
in Banbury... ‘Many of those attending are the people who made
sightings over North Oxon last year which ended with us having a
skywatch, which was unfortunately rained off.’

1973 Daily Tel. 30 July 1/5 Skylab, at present, is not visible to
British *sky~watchers since its orbital track does not take it over
Britain.

1928 STERLING & KRUSE Radio Manual xiv. 524 The day signal which
reappears at 850 miles may be considered the *sky wave. 1944 Proc.
IRE XXXII. 668/1 Design of directional antennas for broadcast
stations to prevent skywave interference to another station. 1971 K.
KENT in C. Bonington Annapurna South Face 277 The near-link radios
had to be h/f sets capable of voice/cw and able to utilize a sky-wave
and surface-wave mode of operation.

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