911 Conspiracy Theories....
BuZZard
Once again into the breach we go my friends, with offhand NWO crackpot
theories of a vast conspiracy to "enslave" humanity. My question is:
Why is it taking so long for this conspiracy to actually happen? Is
there some underground movement of guerrilla fighters armed to the
teeth fighting the immeasurable multi-international totalitarian
conspirators? With all of the power and technology that the U.S.
government has, don't you think that it would have happened quite some
time ago - you know the reign of the New World Order…?
As with all major tragedies, conspiracy theories abound in the months
and years following the event. The newest conspiracy of the
NWO-ologists is that of 911, where over 3,000 people died in a single
day. Supposition of bombs being planted in tower one and two, and
bombs under the belly of the flights abound. One theory even suggests
that one plane was a CIA plane being flown by CIA agents, and that the
plane had no windows and looked like a military transport plane. Yet
another laughable theory suggests that the Pentagon attack was
actually one of our missiles that the United States government
launched at the Pentagon and made it look like a terrorist attack.
Israel has to be the blame - there was a group of Israeli spies that
took over the planes and killed 3,000+ U.S. citizens - right? Soon,
we will be hearing that it was a super-technological mind control
device that we acquired from alien technology from the Zeta
Reticulan's so they can inch ever so forward in their quest to
colonize the earth (what is the hold up this time guys? Did Heaven's
Gate hijack your mother ship?).
There is a major flaw that many of these conspiracy theorists fail
time and time again to realize. Usually - if a people are to be
subjugated into enslavement it is quick and ruthless under the
timeline of history. The leader/leaders want it completed within
their lifetime so they can engorge themselves with the power they have
gained. It is a control issue - not a legacy to be passed down to
future leaders.
It is all about the oil, you know because the Bushes are oil boys.
Think of it, a Christian right wing family who adores god wants
nothing more but oil and power. Don't get me wrong - the Bush family
has lots of flaws - but an American leader plotting terrorist
activities to distract Americans so he can get more oil? It could be
a plausible theory - but how much power does a president actually
have? The ideal of separation of power based on the Constitution was
not to minimize, but to constrain the power of the president. The
goal is to avoid having an accumulation of power whereupon it would
lead the leader to an abusive act. The President needs congressional
approval within weeks of his use of military force, and both Democrats
and Republicans vote in the House and Senate to either support or deny
his decision.
"The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to
introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into
situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly
indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a
declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a
national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its
territories or possessions, or its armed forces."
Ok, we get all that right? So - we went to war with Afghanistan
because of 911, where is the gigantic oil pipeline that many
conspiracy theorists promised? Wasn't it's planning scrapped during
the Clinton administration - WAY before 911 occurred?
Washington Post Article: By Nora Boustany
Wednesday, September 2, 1998; Page A26
No Peace in the Pipeline
The secret weapon that made the Taliban tick - at least in terms of
geopolitics and U.S. interest - has just been dismantled. Unocal
Corp., the California-based global energy company that has been
courting the ultraconservative Islamic militia that controls most of
Afghanistan, announced it was suspending its activities involving the
proposed Central Asia gas pipeline there.
(snip)
The Clinton administration had strongly supported the proposed route,
which would have freed new Central Asian countries from dependence on
Russia for exporting their natural gas - and avoided alternative
routes across Iran to bring badly needed energy to Pakistan and India.
(snip)
Whole article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/europe/pipeline100598.htm
There has not been any attempt in the current administration to build
a pipeline for oil in Afghanistan - NWO oil boys my ass. It seems we
are draining Iraq of all of its oil resources right? Trillions of
gallons of oil are gushing towards the United States in a secret
underground pipeline build by the survivors of Atlantis. The pipeline
burrows underneath Iraq about 20 miles and then proceeds its
underground route until it enters the Persian Gulf, then the Indian
ocean, then Atlantic, then north Atlantic, until it reaches the USA.
We did have help building this from the Grey space aliens, but the
Atlantian diplomats had to work hard to get them on the coalition of
the willing oil boys.
It is my humble belief that the NWO is a crock of fecal matter that
deserves the same recognition as a fly and its primary food source. It
is disgusting as flies in shit. No matter, the silly theories will
abound - disgracing the memory of all who died (including the
passengers of the ill fated flights). I am not scared of the
conspiracy theories, what scares me is that we live in such a
desensitized world, a world of people who want to make their own
history - be it terrorists or crack pot conspiracy theorists. What
scares me is that some people actually believe this crap. Faith in
humanity? Give me 300 or so years and lets see what happens. 320+
children/people are dead in North Ossetian Russia because of terrorism
- I guess the USA is at fault for that too because of its "secret
agenda", not to mention the 2 downed Russian commercial airliners.
Illuminati, New World Order, Oil Boy interest? I think not - it is a
sickening trend that needs to be stopped, and it goes by the name of
Islamic Fundamentalism.
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news:jl1kj0trg9ohakt6g...@4ax.com:
> I think not - it is a
> sickening trend that needs to be stopped, and it goes by the name of
> Islamic Fundamentalism.
That is some kooky, jingoistic stuff, dued.
No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman
ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
New Online Video Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
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BuZZard
promted me to post what I did, you know that "jingoistic stuff".
Anyhow - I have heard that it was a 747, 767, and now a 757....
WHAT kind of plain was it? Google the following, and all come up with
results, which in my book is quite fascinating :)
Google:
911 pentagon plane crash 747
911 pentagon plane crash 767
911 pentagon plane crash 757
You wanna talk about flooding search engines with conspiracy
theories... there are 3 different planes in question, all quite
different in size then eachother - which ONE hit?
The FBI States it was a 757 -
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/77.htm
so then why am I able to turn up 2 other different planes doing a
google search on the subject? Are the master theorists just TOO hard
at work trying to confuse people? Or are the conspiracy theorists
confused on the matter?
What ever happened to going to war with a country because of a vallid
reason? How far do conspiracy theories go back in time? I mean, is
there a conspiracy theory about the fall of the Roman Empire, or even
the Hittites invading Egypt? War is war. Usually it begins by
someone pissing off someone else. No conspiracy, no NWO, no Aliens -
no missing plane wreckage.
I do thank you for reading my post even if you disagree with it
though :)
I am going to post picts of some plane wreckage at the pentagon in
this message as an attachment.
On 4 Sep 2004 19:25:30 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>news:jl1kj0trg9ohakt6g...@4ax.com:
>
>> I think not - it is a
>> sickening trend that needs to be stopped, and it goes by the name of
>> Islamic Fundamentalism.
>
>That is some kooky, jingoistic stuff, dued.
>
>
>No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>http://www.bedoper.com/eastman
>
>ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
>
>New Online Video Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf
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D.E.
"BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> schreef in bericht
news:jl1kj0trg9ohakt6g...@4ax.com...
> Conspiracy Theory of 911
>
> Once again into the breach we go my friends, with offhand NWO crackpot
> theories of a vast conspiracy to "enslave" humanity. My question is:
> Why is it taking so long for this conspiracy to actually happen?
What do you mean long?
We are ahead of schedule.
)O+->
O+-3~
C-Fresh
news:qv6kj0dsoa4snhmo1...@4ax.com:
> Ok, yeah - I saw the majority of what you posted already - which
> promted me to post what I did, you know that "jingoistic stuff".
>
> Anyhow - I have heard that it was a 747, 767, and now a 757....
> WHAT kind of plain was it? Google the following, and all come up with
> results, which in my book is quite fascinating :)
> Google:
> 911 pentagon plane crash 747
> 911 pentagon plane crash 767
> 911 pentagon plane crash 757
>
> You wanna talk about flooding search engines with conspiracy
> theories... there are 3 different planes in question, all quite
> different in size then eachother - which ONE hit?
> The FBI States it was a 757 -
> http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/77.htm
>
> so then why am I able to turn up 2 other different planes doing a
> google search on the subject? Are the master theorists just TOO hard
> at work trying to confuse people? Or are the conspiracy theorists
> confused on the matter?
>
> What ever happened to going to war with a country because of a vallid
> reason?
And what was our valid reason for going to war with Iraq?
; )
> How far do conspiracy theories go back in time? I mean, is
> there a conspiracy theory about the fall of the Roman Empire, or even
> the Hittites invading Egypt? War is war. Usually it begins by
> someone pissing off someone else. No conspiracy, no NWO, no Aliens -
> no missing plane wreckage.
> I do thank you for reading my post even if you disagree with it
> though :)
>
> I am going to post picts of some plane wreckage at the pentagon in
> this message as an attachment.
You should probably stick to the relative merits of a steel poopstick
versus a wooden one.
No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/eastman
ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
New Online Video Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf
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C-Fresh
news:c08kj0ttf4k2j3lk2...@4ax.com:
>
> =ybegin part=1 total=1 line=128 size=97884
> name=AA_flight77_pent-wreckage1.jpg =ypart begin=1 end=97884
And what makes you think this is 757 debris?
BuZZard
Bhahahahah... =oD
You guys are tooo good then, I didnt even know I was enslaved...
damn.
Now I have to start some crazy revolutionary group that no one will
join.
Quintal
for example...
only documented assertions.
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 13:22:14 -0500, BuZZard <krom...@here.com>
wrote:
>Conspiracy Theory of 911
>
>Once again into the breach we go my friends, with offhand NWO crackpot
>theories of a vast conspiracy to "enslave" humanity. My question is:
>Why is it taking so long for this conspiracy to actually happen? Is
>there some underground movement of guerrilla fighters armed to the
>teeth fighting the immeasurable multi-international totalitarian
>conspirators? With all of the power and technology that the U.S.
>government has, don't you think that it would have happened quite some
>time ago - you know the reign of the New World Order�
BuZZard
On 4 Sep 2004 20:26:20 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>news:qv6kj0dsoa4snhmo1...@4ax.com:
>
>> Ok, yeah - I saw the majority of what you posted already - which
>> promted me to post what I did, you know that "jingoistic stuff".
>>
>> Anyhow - I have heard that it was a 747, 767, and now a 757....
>> WHAT kind of plain was it? Google the following, and all come up with
>> results, which in my book is quite fascinating :)
>> Google:
>> 911 pentagon plane crash 747
>> 911 pentagon plane crash 767
>> 911 pentagon plane crash 757
>>
>> You wanna talk about flooding search engines with conspiracy
>> theories... there are 3 different planes in question, all quite
>> different in size then eachother - which ONE hit?
>> The FBI States it was a 757 -
>> http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/aa77/77.htm
>>
>> so then why am I able to turn up 2 other different planes doing a
>> google search on the subject? Are the master theorists just TOO hard
>> at work trying to confuse people? Or are the conspiracy theorists
>> confused on the matter?
>>
>> What ever happened to going to war with a country because of a vallid
>> reason?
>
>And what was our valid reason for going to war with Iraq?
And now the picture becomes clear, as if you just washed my windows
with Windex (tm). All of these 911 conspiracy theories are... because
we went to war with Iraq? The reason we went to war with Iraq is
because we want their damn oil so the Greys don't get to it first.
Their ships are not environmentally safe you know!!
War with Iraq - well, after being hit by terrorists on 911 I think
America wanted to play it safe - why not N. Korea or any other
hotspot? Don't know... but I don't think it is a conspiracy.
Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and people
under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
BuZZard
>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>news:c08kj0ttf4k2j3lk2...@4ax.com:
>
>>
>> =ybegin part=1 total=1 line=128 size=97884
>> name=AA_flight77_pent-wreckage1.jpg =ypart begin=1 end=97884
>
>And what makes you think this is 757 debris?
Damn it, you got me... it was actually secret footage of a test flight
gone wrong of an ancient Indian (Hindu) Vimana, unfortunately they
came out of the gravitational warp stratosphere too early and
materialized in the pentagon - causing mass particle overload and
acceleration - BOOM.
I apologize for my misleading picture... the truth is now known.
Luckily my IP can't be traced because I am behind 843 encrypted
firewall's with neo-512GB encrypto metamorphic algorithmic data
destabilizers... so the government doesn't know who or where I am - or
I would be in big trouble right? Pfft... who would post such
pictures!?
>
>
>
>No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>http://www.bedoper.com/eastman
>
>ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
>
>New Online Video Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf
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D.E.
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:20:04 +0200, "D.E." <ask4myemail> wrote:
>
> >
> >"BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> schreef in bericht
> >news:jl1kj0trg9ohakt6g...@4ax.com...
> >> Conspiracy Theory of 911
> >>
> >> Once again into the breach we go my friends, with offhand NWO crackpot
> >> theories of a vast conspiracy to "enslave" humanity. My question is:
> >> Why is it taking so long for this conspiracy to actually happen?
> >
> >What do you mean long?
> >We are ahead of schedule.
> >
> >)O+->
> >O+-3~
>
> Bhahahahah... =oD
>
> You guys are tooo good then, I didnt even know I was enslaved...
> damn.
> Now I have to start some crazy revolutionary group that no one will
> join.
Just as well, for we would have just used it to further our causes. >=o)
BuZZard
>
>"BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> schreef in bericht
>news:vmckj0thalf4bj8bk...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:20:04 +0200, "D.E." <ask4myemail> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> schreef in bericht
>> >news:jl1kj0trg9ohakt6g...@4ax.com...
>> >> Conspiracy Theory of 911
>> >>
>> >> Once again into the breach we go my friends, with offhand NWO crackpot
>> >> theories of a vast conspiracy to "enslave" humanity. My question is:
>> >> Why is it taking so long for this conspiracy to actually happen?
>> >
>> >What do you mean long?
>> >We are ahead of schedule.
>> >
>> >)O+->
>> >O+-3~
>>
>> Bhahahahah... =oD
>>
>> You guys are tooo good then, I didnt even know I was enslaved...
>> damn.
>> Now I have to start some crazy revolutionary group that no one will
>> join.
>
>Just as well, for we would have just used it to further our causes. >=o)
Doh!!!!
hahah
D.E.
> On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 00:31:30 +0200, "D.E." <ask4myemail> wrote:
>
> >
> >"BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> schreef in bericht
> >news:vmckj0thalf4bj8bk...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:20:04 +0200, "D.E." <ask4myemail> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> schreef in bericht
> >> >news:jl1kj0trg9ohakt6g...@4ax.com...
> >> >> Conspiracy Theory of 911
> >> >>
> >> >> Once again into the breach we go my friends, with offhand NWO
crackpot
> >> >> theories of a vast conspiracy to "enslave" humanity. My question
is:
> >> >> Why is it taking so long for this conspiracy to actually happen?
> >> >
> >> >What do you mean long?
> >> >We are ahead of schedule.
> >> >
> >> >)O+->
> >> >O+-3~
> >>
> >> Bhahahahah... =oD
> >>
> >> You guys are tooo good then, I didnt even know I was enslaved...
> >> damn.
> >> Now I have to start some crazy revolutionary group that no one will
> >> join.
> >
> >Just as well, for we would have just used it to further our causes. >=o)
>
> Doh!!!!
> hahah
I am glad you enjoy this and that you still feel free, that shows it is
working ;o)
BuZZard
You guys are good - I do still feel free, maybe I have embraced the
willingness to be a slave for the NWO... I have - I DO!!! I LOVE BEING
A SLAVE!!!!!
THANK YOU NWO!!!
One day, I hope I am never free! I wish to gain superior knowledge
through the use of being used as a slave!
I still feel free... hmmm (looks at arm) I must be free, right? Oh,
it does not matter!
I will enjoy my slavery :)
BTW I am building a sub-convectional translucent rift quantum drive
that is to power my model #34 super X craft (don't ask what happened
to the other 33 models - they can't be recognized). I was wondering
if this craft goes against the standings of the NWO's reign... and can
I take my wife for a ride in it?
Also, about using mercury for vortex engines - I am almost there - but
I am sure NWO scientists have a better grasp then I...
any help would be appreciated!
C-Fresh
news:8rckj0935uhp51ifh...@4ax.com:
> Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and people
> under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
Like we're over there doing now?
; )
Me
>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>news:8rckj0935uhp51ifh...@4ax.com:
>
>> Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and people
>> under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
>
>Like we're over there doing now?
You scum, may you die an early and painful death.
I can show you mass graves that held close to a HALF A MILLION Iraqi
citizens. Show me ONE grave of ANYONE that was tortured to death by
American soldiers. You disgust me.
C-Fresh
news:2odkj0tqlrgrn0o31...@4ax.com:
> On 4 Sep 2004 20:26:56 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>
>>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>>news:c08kj0ttf4k2j3lk2...@4ax.com:
>>
>>>
>>> =ybegin part=1 total=1 line=128 size=97884
>>> name=AA_flight77_pent-wreckage1.jpg =ypart begin=1 end=97884
>>
>>And what makes you think this is 757 debris?
>
> Damn it, you got me... it was actually secret footage of a test flight
> gone wrong of an ancient Indian (Hindu) Vimana, unfortunately they
> came out of the gravitational warp stratosphere too early and
> materialized in the pentagon - causing mass particle overload and
> acceleration - BOOM.
> I apologize for my misleading picture... the truth is now known.
> Luckily my IP can't be traced because I am behind 843 encrypted
> firewall's with neo-512GB encrypto metamorphic algorithmic data
> destabilizers... so the government doesn't know who or where I am - or
> I would be in big trouble right? Pfft... who would post such
> pictures!?
How's the herb, BuZZ?
; )
>>No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>>http://www.bedoper.com/eastman
>>
>>ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>>http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
>>
>>New Online Video Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>>http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf
C-Fresh
news:fovkj0927t7omq1ju...@4ax.com:
> On 5 Sep 2004 02:47:49 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>
>>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>>news:8rckj0935uhp51ifh...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and people
>>> under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
>>
>>Like we're over there doing now?
>
> You scum, may you die an early and painful death.
Most unlikely.
> I can show you mass graves that held close to a HALF A MILLION Iraqi
> citizens.
Sure you can...
> Show me ONE grave of ANYONE that was tortured to death by
> American soldiers.
So your guys hide them better?
> You disgust me.
I'm not one supporting the American murderers, Too Much Coffee Man.
BuZZard
>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>news:8rckj0935uhp51ifh...@4ax.com:
>
>> Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and people
>> under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
>
>Like we're over there doing now?
Oh, your right - I forgot about the mass graves of the atlantian
suppressors that were attacking our troops in defense of Iraq's
nuclear program.
NWO troops have been spotted killing massive amounts of Iraqi citizens
by the millions, in fact just yesterday the nuked Baghdad. Your right
:)
Now I see the way you see...
America = NWO power house trying to take over the world at any cost.
America = killing civilians for fun (even though they saved millions
of people during WWII and are basically the only country trying to do
anything about the killings in Somalia...)
America... the big bad evil from the west that must be stopped from...
hmmmm... what - helping out people who need freedom from repression
and oppression?
Interesting concept!
I bet if the USA stuck to that - you and everyone else would be
talking German and singing praises to your fuehrer.
Anyhow - I know that the Atlantians did not deserve to get dragged
into the middle of this - they are trying to raise their city from the
oceanic depts and all.
>
>; )
BuZZard
>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>news:2odkj0tqlrgrn0o31...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 4 Sep 2004 20:26:56 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>>
>>>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>>>news:c08kj0ttf4k2j3lk2...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> =ybegin part=1 total=1 line=128 size=97884
>>>> name=AA_flight77_pent-wreckage1.jpg =ypart begin=1 end=97884
>>>
>>>And what makes you think this is 757 debris?
>>
>> Damn it, you got me... it was actually secret footage of a test flight
>> gone wrong of an ancient Indian (Hindu) Vimana, unfortunately they
>> came out of the gravitational warp stratosphere too early and
>> materialized in the pentagon - causing mass particle overload and
>> acceleration - BOOM.
>> I apologize for my misleading picture... the truth is now known.
>> Luckily my IP can't be traced because I am behind 843 encrypted
>> firewall's with neo-512GB encrypto metamorphic algorithmic data
>> destabilizers... so the government doesn't know who or where I am - or
>> I would be in big trouble right? Pfft... who would post such
>> pictures!?
>
>How's the herb, BuZZ?
>
>; )
Pretty good - I was halucinating about a 757, 767, or was that a 747
that smashed into the pentagon... but it turns out that it was a
missile that was fired by the government of the USA to make it look
like a terrorist attack... I was also halucinating about 350 people,
mostly young children being murdered by terrorists in Russia... what a
bad trip man...
I mean, wow - imagine, a plane flying into the pentagon - what a
crock, everyone likes America right? No other people would try to
harm us... that sucks that it was the US government... I mean, they
gain so much power over their people by doing this... I just hope they
don't test any more vimana's out... I don't want to wake up one
morning with a frickin ancient indian aircraft sitting on my lap!!!
;)
>
>>>No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>>>http://www.bedoper.com/eastman
>>>
>>>ASCE Report Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>>>http://www.bedoper.com/pentagon/asce
>>>
>>>New Online Video Proves No 757 Hit The Pentagon
>>>http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon121.swf
>
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>Me <no-address_...@no-address.com> wrote in
>news:fovkj0927t7omq1ju...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 5 Sep 2004 02:47:49 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>>
>>>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>>>news:8rckj0935uhp51ifh...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and people
>>>> under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
>>>
>>>Like we're over there doing now?
>>
>> You scum, may you die an early and painful death.
>
>Most unlikely.
>
>> I can show you mass graves that held close to a HALF A MILLION Iraqi
>> citizens.
>
>Sure you can...
he can't ... even Bliar admitted this was a lie
"Downing Street has admitted to The Observer that
repeated claims by Tony Blair that '400,000 bodies
had been found in Iraqi mass graves' is untrue, and
only about 5,000 corpses have so far been uncovered."
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,1263901,00.html
rather less then the death toll of innocent civilians from the illegal
COW invasion
>> Show me ONE grave of ANYONE that was tortured to death by
>> American soldiers.
>
>So your guys hide them better?
the twerp obviously hasn't been following the abu ghraib trials
--
V--V
"U.S. forces and policies are completing the radicalization
of the Islamic world, something Osama bin Laden has been trying
to do with substantial but incomplete success since the early 1990s.
As a result, I think it is fair to conclude that the United States
of America remains bin Laden's only indispensable ally."
CIA analyst Michael Scheuer in "Imperial Hubris"
D.E.
yes you do, and you don`t even know it, that is the beauty of it.
> One day, I hope I am never free!
Well to bad, we have designed it so that you still will believe
that you are free.
> I wish to gain superior knowledge
> through the use of being used as a slave!
Well you won`t, sorry, that is not possible in the design.
You are either in, or you are out.(there)
> I still feel free... hmmm (looks at arm) I must be free, right? Oh,
> it does not matter!
No, it doesn`t really.
> I will enjoy my slavery :)
Yes you will. And in the off chance you would find out, you just disappear.
> BTW I am building a sub-convectional translucent rift quantum drive
> that is to power my model #34 super X craft (don't ask what happened
> to the other 33 models - they can't be recognized). I was wondering
> if this craft goes against the standings of the NWO's reign... and can
> I take my wife for a ride in it?
Send the design in and we will review it ;o)
> Also, about using mercury for vortex engines - I am almost there - but
> I am sure NWO scientists have a better grasp then I...
> any help would be appreciated!
We don`t use that system, mercury will run out.
Ofcourse I can`t tell you how we do do the things we do.
D.E.
> Now I see the way you see...
> America = NWO power house trying to take over the world at any cost.
> America = killing civilians for fun (even though they saved millions
> of people during WWII and are basically the only country trying to do
> anything about the killings in Somalia...)
> America... the big bad evil from the west that must be stopped from...
> hmmmm... what - helping out people who need freedom from repression
> and oppression?
> Interesting concept!
> I bet if the USA stuck to that - you and everyone else would be
> talking German and singing praises to your fuehrer.
Bullshit argument since no one can tell what history would have been
like if hitler would have won. You would be talking german too I guess
and loving it just as easily as you now blindly follow your leader.
And actually I do speak german dutch and english, so ...... ;o)
Quintal
wrote:
>Conspiracy Theory of 911
for particulars about oil and pipelines, try Michael Ruppert's site :
www.copvcia.com
THE NEW WORLD ORDER, IN ITS OWN WORDS
(excerpted from 911: DESCENT INTO TYRANNY
© 2002 by Alex Jones )
“National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing a new
world order."
Adolph Hitler during World War II
“Out of these troubled times, a New World Order can emerge under a
United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders.”
President George Bush, September 11, 1990 State of the Union
“When the struggle seems to be drifting defiantly towards a world
social democracy there may still be very great delays and
disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficient world
system. Countless people – will hate the New World Order – and will
die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we
have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of
malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people.”
H.G. Wells, in his book entitled, “The New World Order” (1939)
“We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it
in blood as well as in words and money.”
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in “Foreign Affairs,” July/August Issue 1995
“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles
to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially
true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond,
whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is
then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from
this evil.
The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this
scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the
guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World
Government."
Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
“If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator."
George W. Bush, 12/18/00, CNN
“In short, the ‘house of world order’ will have to be built from the
bottom up, rather than from the top down. It will look like a great
‘booming, buzzing confusion’ to use William James’ famous description
of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding
it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned
frontal assault.”
Richard N. Gardner in “Foreign Affairs,” April 1974
“No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a
pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he
will take a Luciferian Initiation."
David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations
“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline
from present levels, would be ideal."
Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine.
[poster's note : without cheap oil, it may even be a natural
necessity. Check "Peak Oil" topic on michael ruppert's site
www.copvcia.com]
“In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a
deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve
overpopulation."
Prince Philip Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988.
“I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a
particularly deadly virus."
Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom,
Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.
“I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as
a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of
game animals and the need to adjust the 'cull' to the size of the
surplus population."
Preface to Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh,
1988, p.8.
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the
right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”
David Rockefeller
“It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter
to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegance.”
President George Herbert Walker Bush Addressing the General Assembly
of the United Nations, February 1, 1992
“But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful
an interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for
long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to
destroy all our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of
global interdependence.”
David Rockefeller Speaking at the Business Council for the United
Nations, September 14, 1994
"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all
states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty
wasn't such a great idea after all." Strobe Talbot, President
Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th,
l992.
"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by
conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on
February 17th, 1950
“Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those
who would resist us have been totally disarmed”
Sarah Brady, Chairman of Handgun Control to Senator Howard Metzanbaum,
“The National Educator,” January 1994 Page 3
"When we got organized as a country, and we wrote a fairly radical
Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of
individual freedom to Americans… and so a lot of people say there's
too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being
abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the
announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about
how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try
to make people safer in their communities."
President Bill Clinton, 3-22-94, MTV's "Enough is Enough"
“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of
ordinary Americans.” President Bill Clinton, “USA Today,” March 11,
1993, Page 2A
"Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously
succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated
administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of
purpose. The SOCIAL EXPERIMENT in China under Chairman
Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human
history." David Rockefeller Statement in 1973 about Mao Tse-Tung, New
York Times, August 10, 1973
“The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions,
and the statutory emergency plans are there whereby you could, in the
name of stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest
Americans and hold them in detention camps."
-- U.S. Representative Henry Gonzalez, August 29, 1994
“We are moving toward a new world order, the world of communism. We
shall never turn off that road."
Mikhail Gorbachev 1987
“There does exist and has existed for a generation, an international .
. . network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical
right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may
identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating
with the Communists, or any other groups and frequently does so. I
know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for
twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to
examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to
most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and
to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and
recently, to a few of its policies . . . but in general my chief
difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I
believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
Professor Carroll Quigley, in his book Tragedy and Hope, 1966.
“Even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be
for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be
important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with
the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues
at stake so that much that now is unthinkable may at least become
thinkable."
Sir Julian Huxley, first Director General of UNESCO, 1946-1948
“Since March 9, 1933, the United states has been in a state of
national emergency. A majority of the people of the United States have
their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years freedoms and
governmental procedures, guaranteed by the Constitution have, in
varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought forth by states of
national emergency."
Senate Report 93-549 (1973).
“Under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be
forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked
it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and
industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be
executed in a kindly manner. . . ." [This is compassionate
liberalism.(dunno who made that note, alex jones prolly)]
Fabian Socialist Bernard Shaw in his Intelligent Woman's Guide to
Socialism and Capitalism, 1928.
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows
the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch
and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will
have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the
citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up
all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know?
For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
-- Julius Caesar
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield
the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences
of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all
of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of
the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy
of the State."
-- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels in His Diary
Plssms
>Conspiracy Theory of 911
>
>Once again into the breach we go my friends, with offhand NWO crackpot
>theories of a vast conspiracy to "enslave" humanity. My question is:
>Why is it taking so long for this conspiracy to actually happen?
"If you throw a frog into a pot of boiling water, he’ll jump out. But if you
place a frog into a pot of lukewarm water and slowly turn up the heat, it will
boil to death. "
Gradualism, itz.
Quintal
wrote:
nope, feeling free and being free are not the same thing, one can't be
deduced from the other.
Vampi Fangs
wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:37:26 -0500, BuZZard
><krom...@here.com>,wrote:
>Buzz, C-Fresh is a SnuhTard Troll. He doesn't give a fuck
>about any 911 conspiracy other than to troll everyone on it.
so? you're an auk troll who doesn't give a fuck
jason for all his snuhness at least has consistently condemned the
bush dullards for the past few years
BuZZard
>
>> Now I see the way you see...
>> America = NWO power house trying to take over the world at any cost.
>> America = killing civilians for fun (even though they saved millions
>> of people during WWII and are basically the only country trying to do
>> anything about the killings in Somalia...)
>> America... the big bad evil from the west that must be stopped from...
>> hmmmm... what - helping out people who need freedom from repression
>> and oppression?
>> Interesting concept!
>> I bet if the USA stuck to that - you and everyone else would be
>> talking German and singing praises to your fuehrer.
>
>Bullshit argument since no one can tell what history would have been
>like if hitler would have won. You would be talking german too I guess
>and loving it just as easily as you now blindly follow your leader.
>And actually I do speak german dutch and english, so ...... ;o)
I guess not Kartoffelkopfe... I mean, taking Hitlers agenda and all,
I guess no one knows what would have happened right? I was looking at
the world with my eyes open, and now you shut them... I see the light.
as for speaking languages, I speak ancient Mayan, Early Kingdom
Eygptian, parts of the Atlantian Dialect and I am learning how to
communicate telepathically with the Zeta Reticulans - so WOW, I know
how to speak more languages then you - OH and I am also studying
Thellish and Enochian... Spansih, English, German, Italian are just
some of my hobby languages
sind Sie daß viel eines Kartoffelkopfes?
dovete realmente essere uno sciocco della testa della patata
Usted debe ser un hombre que mira divertido verdadero, con una cabeza
enorme de la patata
BuZZard
wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:37:26 -0500, BuZZard
><krom...@here.com>,wrote:
>
>Buzz, C-Fresh is a SnuhTard Troll. He doesn't give a fuck
>about any 911 conspiracy other than to troll everyone on it.
Cool :)
thanks for the warning - but I am having fun with him
BuZZard
<qui...@TAKETHISOUThotmail.com> wrote:
uperior knowledge
>>through the use of being used as a slave!
>>I still feel free... hmmm (looks at arm) I must be free, right?
.... .... -party pooper. :(
>
>nope, feeling free and being free are not the same thing, one can't be
>deduced from the other.
>
>
>> Oh,
>>it does not matter!
>>I will enjoy my slavery :)
>>BTW I am building a sub-convectional translucent rift quantum drive
>>that is to power my model #34 super X craft (don't ask what happened
>>to the other 33 models - they can't be recognized). I was wondering
>>if this craft goes against the standings of the NWO's reign... and can
>>I take my wife for a ride in it?
>
>>Also, about using mercury for vortex engines - I am almost there - but
>>I am sure NWO scientists have a better grasp then I...
>>any help would be appreciated!
>
-----------------
someone
<no-address_...@no-address.com> wrote:
Army investigating 10 Iraq prisoner deaths
By Pamela Hess
Pentagon correspondent
UPI
Washington, DC, May. 4 (UPI) -- The Army is investigating the deaths
of at least 10 Iraqi and Afghan prisoners in U.S. custody, officials
said Tuesday.
One soldier has already been court-martialed for killing one prisoner
from "excessive force." The soldier was thrown out of the service but
did not serve jail time.
The Army has referred a second case to the U.S. Justice Department as
it involves a civilian contract interrogator who worked for the CIA. He
is allegedly responsible for the death of a prisoner at Abu Ghraib
prison, which is now under intense scrutiny, an Army official said
Tuesday.
A third death of a prisoner was ruled justifiable because the prisoner
was shot in an attempt to escape, according to Maj. Gen. Donald Ryder,
the Army's provost marshal general.
Army officials said Tuesday they have opened investigations into the
deaths of at least 25 prisoners, most of them in Iraq. Another 10
investigations are ongoing into the abuse and assault of prisoners who
were not killed.
"It's very basic for us, how we treat detainees. ... All personnel
captured, detained will be given humanitarian care and treatment from
the moment they fall into the hands of U.S. force," said Army Vice
Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey. "All personnel will be respected as
human beings. Photographing, filming and videotaping of detainees other
than for internal facility administration is prohibited.
"And what happened at that prison, as I said, is a complete breach of
discipline," Casey said.
The revelations came almost a week after pictures of prisoners being
humiliated and abused were shown on CBS' "60 Minutes," and after the
top secret report of an Army general into the situation at Abu Ghraib
prison was first revealed in the New Yorker magazine.
The April 6 report from Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, delivered to
Congress Tuesday, details systemic and illegal abuse of detainees by
the 372nd Military Police Company, 320th Military Police Battalion of
the 800th Military Police Brigade headquartered at Fort Totten, N.Y.
Two sergeants and four specialists or privates -- junior enlisted
soldiers -- have been charged with crimes. Three have been
court-martialed for the abuse of the prisoners which was first reported
on Jan. 13, and three are still to face the court. Another six have
received letters of reprimand which will likely end their careers
before their next promotion. Two have been relieved of duty -- a
battalion commander with the 800th and the battalion operations
sergeant major.
Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, the commander of the 800th MP Brigade, is
still in command of the unit.
The Army inspector general is also conducting an investigation into
the military intelligence unit that was working at the prison, in
charge of the interrogation of the prisoners. Karpinski has suggested
in television interviews the interrogators encouraged the MPs to
"soften up" the prisoners, leading to the abuse.
Ryder said Tuesday he has been concerned about the relationship
between military polce and intelligence workers at the prison since
last fall. He went to Iraq in October to review the Iraqi prison
operation -- a study unrelated to the current charges -- and he saw
"tension" between the mission of the U.S. military police to guard and
protect the prisoners, and intelligence interrogators, who are charged
with getting information from them.
"My view as a military police officer for 32 years is that military
police in that environment are to provide custody and control and a
safe and secure environment and treat folks every day humanely," Ryder
said. "The tension comes in in what we're doing with interrogation."
Two civilian contractors -- a linguist and an interrogator -- are
implicated in the Taguba report, Casey confirmed. One contractor is
from CACI and one is from Titan. If charges are brought against them,
they will face a civilian federal court and be prosecuted by a U.S.
attorney, he said.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said he has read only the executive
summary of the Taguba report and vowed to root out all those
responsible.
"As the senior official responsible for this department, I intend to
take any and all actions as may be needed to find out what happened and
to see that appropriate steps are taken," Rumsfeld said. "The actions
of the soldiers in those photographs are totally unacceptable and
un-American. Any who engaged in such action let down their comrades who
serve honorably each day, and they let down their country."
According to Casey, the Army has made changes in Iraq and at Abu
Ghraib. A new unit has taken over the prison. On April 15, Army Maj.
Gen. Jeff Miller took charge of all detainee operations in Iraq.
All military police units are being given additional Geneva Convention
training.
The Army is also sending a mobile training team of 24 corrections and
legal experts to train guards in Iraq.
There are about 8,100 "security detainees" being held in Iraq,
although the number fluctuates daily as more prisoners arrive and
others are released. Security detainees are held by the U.S. military
at Abu Ghraib in some cases for months for questioning and not
necessarily for crimes. They do not have lawyers and charges are rarely
filed against them. Some are released in days or weeks and others are
kept longer.
A senior military official in Iraq told United Press International
Tuesday that prisoners are difficult to track in the system because of
the language barrier and a lack of networked computers at the 16
U.S.-run prisons.
Karpinski told reporters touring the facility last September -- one of
the only times reporters have been granted access to the site -- that
security detainees had "fewer rights" than enemy prisoners of war.
Casey, however, said that the legal status of the detainees did not
affect their treatment.
Rumsfeld maintained Tuesday that security detainees do not have the
legal protection of the Geneva Conventions because they are not
prisoners of war.
"The lawyers made a legal distinction with respect to the Geneva
Convention, in every time that was uttered, it was also added that they
are being treated consistent with the Geneva Convention. And that has
been our desire, our intent and our conviction up until this point,"
Rumsfeld said.
However, in an open letter Monday addressed to national security
adviser Condoleezza Rice, New York-based Human Rights Watch differed
with that assessment.
"The acts described in the investigative report written by Maj. Gen.
Antonio Taguba, including beatings, repeated sexual abuse and
humiliation, and threats and simulation of rape and of torture by
electric shock, violate the Geneva Conventions and could constitute war
crimes," according to the watchdog group.
On Capitol Hill, Michigan Democrat Carl Levin called for swift action
against the perpetrators.
"For the security of this nation, we must root out those responsible
and reassure the world that in our open society, criminal actions of
this kind will be investigated and punished," he said.
Troops with one Army division in Iraq have been directed to personally
apologize to Iraqis they come in contact with on their patrols, a
military official told UPI.
"We tell them of our heartfelt shock and shame at this criminal act,
and tell them while we know their anger is understandable we ask them
to understand that we will try the perpetrators, and bring them to
justice," the official said Monday.
U.S. troops receive annual refresher courses on the dictates of the
Geneva Convention, which covers the treatment of detainees and
prisoners of war, according to an Army official.
AbsolutelyCertain
"someone" <n...@spam.net> wrote in message
news:050920041339494090%n...@spam.net...
> In article <fovkj0927t7omq1ju...@4ax.com>, Me
> <no-address_...@no-address.com> wrote:
>
> > On 5 Sep 2004 02:47:49 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
> >
> > >BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
> > >news:8rckj0935uhp51ifh...@4ax.com:
> > >
> > >> Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and people
> > >> under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
> > >
> > >Like we're over there doing now?
> >
> > You scum, may you die an early and painful death.
> > I can show you mass graves that held close to a HALF A MILLION Iraqi
> > citizens. Show me ONE grave of ANYONE that was tortured to death by
> > American soldiers. You disgust me.
>
> Army investigating 10 Iraq prisoner deaths
>
>
> By Pamela Hess
> Pentagon correspondent
> UPI
>
>
> Washington, DC, May. 4 (UPI) -- The Army is investigating the deaths
> of at least 10 Iraqi and Afghan prisoners in U.S. custody, officials
> said Tuesday.
The logic of this argument is, any crackpot 911 theory must be valid since
the government is run by idiots.
This hypothesis explains the entire Dick Eastman theory in one sentence.
And most of his previous theories, too, for that matter.
Yes, the government *is* run by idiots. But no, they didn't shoot a missile
into the Pentagon.
BuZZard
Ok, so - usually it only takes like 3 - 5 minutes to get a pot of
boiling water right? I have been hearing of this NWO conspiracy
theory for over 30 years now, and it most likely goes back further
then that (take the Illuminati - since the 1500's right???). Most of
the people accused of being in these vast conspiracies have died off
and the newer ones replacing them seem pretty stupid! It doesn't take
a few millennia to gain control of the world for enslavement - what is
the point of that when the people who wanted it are dust?
If you boil water for too long - there is no water left because of
evaporation, therefore your frog is dead, burned and no one will eat
it.
Plus it is a fire hazard to leave a pot on the stove after evaporating
the water and leaving a frog in there... and the smell - imagine the
smell of a burnt charred frog smoking up your living space!
Me
>In article <fovkj0927t7omq1ju...@4ax.com>, Me
><no-address_...@no-address.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5 Sep 2004 02:47:49 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
>>
>> >BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>> >news:8rckj0935uhp51ifh...@4ax.com:
>> >
>> >> Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and people
>> >> under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
>> >
>> >Like we're over there doing now?
>>
>> You scum, may you die an early and painful death.
>> I can show you mass graves that held close to a HALF A MILLION Iraqi
>> citizens. Show me ONE grave of ANYONE that was tortured to death by
>> American soldiers. You disgust me.
>
>Army investigating 10 Iraq prisoner deaths
Apparently you didn't read the story you posted, bonehead. It backs up
my point. Only ONE court-martial has resulted from any of these
investigations and it was for use of "excessive force". However, while
that person was tossed from the military, he was sent home. Obviously,
if he'd murdered or tortured anyone he'd be in Leavenworth. On the
other hand, there is no disputing that Hussien tortured and murdered
close to a half a million people.
AbsolutelyCertain
"Me" <no-address_...@no-address.com> wrote in message
news:7aomj0ltcsaba7gt8...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 13:39:49 -0400, someone <n...@spam.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <fovkj0927t7omq1ju...@4ax.com>, Me
> ><no-address_...@no-address.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 5 Sep 2004 02:47:49 GMT, "C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote:
> >>
> >> >BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
> >> >news:8rckj0935uhp51ifh...@4ax.com:
> >> >
> >> >> Was it justified? well considering all of the mass graves and
people
> >> >> under his rule being raped, killed, torchered, for their sake - yes.
> >> >
> >> >Like we're over there doing now?
> >>
> >> You scum, may you die an early and painful death.
> >> I can show you mass graves that held close to a HALF A MILLION Iraqi
> >> citizens. Show me ONE grave of ANYONE that was tortured to death by
> >> American soldiers. You disgust me.
> >
> >Army investigating 10 Iraq prisoner deaths
>
>
> Apparently you didn't read the story you posted, bonehead. It backs up
> my point. Only ONE court-martial has resulted from any of these
> investigations and it was for use of "excessive force". However, while
> that person was tossed from the military, he was sent home. Obviously,
> if he'd murdered or tortured anyone he'd be in Leavenworth. On the
> other hand, there is no disputing that Hussien tortured and murdered
> close to a half a million people.
How many of these happened while the US was still supporting him during the
Reagan and Bush I administrations, under Phase One of these boneheads'
masterful manipulations of the Middle East?
Me
What on earth make you think that has anything to do with GW Bush and
how he PROPERLY handled it?
AbsolutelyCertain
It has everything to do with it. These idiots have fucked with this region
for many years, and the results have been steadily and obviously worse as
time goes by. Iran, thanks to our support of the evil Shah, fell to
fanatical Muslims and now represents the (temporarily, again) most
US-unfriendly regime in the area, apparently well along in its efforts to
produce the materials needed for nuclear weapons (unlike, you know, Iraq).
The truth is that our self-centered focus on protecting cheap oil in this
region has caused this country to fuck with, and fuck up, the politics of
the region extensively .... the political map there now is the direct
result. Every single one of the academics and experts on this region that I
have heard from in the last year or so ... not counting the insane neocons
in Washington, and the craphead sockpuppets they created, such as Chalabi
..... are agreeing that the only likely result in Iraq will be an unstable,
US-unfriendly illiberal democracy (that's a democracy in name only, not
unlike the Hussein regime). This continues the just-about-perfect record of
a democracy-free Arab world. There were zero liberal democracies identified
there in the year 2000, and to my knowledge, that situation has not changed.
The failure rate in the 20th century for the achivement of liberal democracy
in sovereign states that did not have previously have them was about 80
percent, and it is widely observed that most candidates for success in this
regard have now been converted; the failure rate in the future is likely to
be considerably higher. There is no basis in history whatsoever for
believing that Iraq will emerge from its current state of chaos to become a
stable, friendly liberal democracy, no matter how much time and money or how
many American lives are wasted there in the process. The so-called "plan"
you see in operation there now is aimed primarily at shifting the pain from
the US to the Iraqi provisional government, so as to keep the story from
bubbling over in the news media here. It has no mechanism in place for
creating or supporting any friendly democratic regime that can be envisioned
now. In short, it's a giant ruse.
But, keep posting your RNC-approved bullshit, it's amusing.
BuZZard
On 05 Sep 2004 10:46:26 GMT, pls...@aol.com (Plssms) wrote:
BTW, did you try that? I mean my kids have two frogs and I decided to
try it and... well both frogs died and now my wife and kids are pretty
pissed off at me... thanks man.
WTF?
C-Fresh
news:b4dmj0d0lj90b21oj...@4ax.com:
I heard you had inside info regarding 9/11? Can you confirm or deny?
Vampi Fangs
i am still wondering why there were israeli spies living next to atta,
why 5 israelis were caught dancing with glee whilst video-taping the
disaster and who quickly were expedited out of the USSA, why the
investigations of saudi links to aq funding were squashed and who sent
the warning messages prior to the disaster through the israeli
communications company, odigo
Sir Circumference
>
> Bullshit argument since no one can tell what history would have been
> like if hitler would have won. You would be talking german too I guess
> and loving it just as easily as you now blindly follow your leader.
> And actually I do speak german dutch and english, so ...... ;o)
Thousands of U.S. soldiers lost their lives to stop Hitler so that today
you and the rest of your Netherland citizens would not have to fly the
swastika over your door and do the goose step.
You're welcome even though you are an ungrateful bastard.
C-Fresh
Anti-semite!
; )
There's not really much to wonder about, really. Unless you still believe
19 muslims defeated all of U.S. defense and intelligence.
C-Fresh
u...@gbronline.com:
Instead, we brought the Nazis over here and instituted their programs at
home.
Great.
AbsolutelyCertain
"C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
news:Xns955BE89D721EBs...@207.14.113.17...
> Sir Circumference <radi...@this.not> wrote in news:s8GdnTNn9rdtR6bcRVn-
> u...@gbronline.com:
>
> > D.E. wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Bullshit argument since no one can tell what history would have been
> >> like if hitler would have won. You would be talking german too I guess
> >> and loving it just as easily as you now blindly follow your leader.
> >> And actually I do speak german dutch and english, so ...... ;o)
> >
> > Thousands of U.S. soldiers lost their lives to stop Hitler so that today
> > you and the rest of your Netherland citizens would not have to fly the
> > swastika over your door and do the goose step.
> > You're welcome even though you are an ungrateful bastard.
> >
> >
>
> Instead, we brought the Nazis over here and instituted their programs at
> home.
No, but we got their music:
Vampi Fangs
heh ... who says the israelis and saudis were religious?
>There's not really much to wonder about, really. Unless you still believe
>19 muslims defeated all of U.S. defense and intelligence.
care to expand?
Quintal
Hitler was funded, supported and so on, before and even during the
second world war by american money and ressources.
Prescott Bush (George's father) was the man lol
George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
Sir Circumference
And your point is?
C-Fresh
I think they hail the satan.
>>There's not really much to wonder about, really. Unless you still believe
>>19 muslims defeated all of U.S. defense and intelligence.
>
> care to expand?
Well, I meant the questions you have are worth pondering only if you still
believe arabs did 9/11. If you understand that they didn't, then those
questions are rather academic.
Righteous Nation
Sir Circumference <radi...@this.not> wrote:
A point for any American patriot: Hitler was working for the Roman
Catholic church and their "titled aristocracy." Read "Mein Kampf," and
know why it's illegal to print, sell or buy it in Germany, to see where
Hitler spelled out his program: the same Nazism-creating families and
institutions are back in charge in Germany...as they are almost fully in
power in the U.S. through the Rockefeller/Bush Fifth Column which
funnelled Roman Catholic collection plate funds to Hitler after the
Fulda Conference of RC Bishops approved voting NSDAP, TEN YEARS after
"Mein Kampf" was written.
Papal banker and eugenicist Rockefeller and his lieutenant, Prescott
Bus(c)h knew what they were funding and on whose behalf...the same
interests who assassinated JFK and put us in Vietnam and who appointed
draft-dodger W to the presidency and gave us 9/11 to steal more oil for
Roman Catholic "Big Oil" and to bolster the Roman Catholic "Chaldean"
Iraqi minority.
--
Death and Full Expropriation for Treason
Full Expropriation and Banishment, or Death, for Misprision of Treason
Righteous Nation
BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote:
> I have been hearing of this NWO conspiracy
> theory for over 30 years now, and it most likely goes back further
> then that (take the Illuminati - since the 1500's right???). Most of
> the people accused of being in these vast conspiracies have died off
> and the newer ones replacing them seem pretty stupid!
...and yet 99.4% of Roman Catholic dioceses in the U.S. have at least
one convicted pedophile priest, many have dozens, and righteous America
hasn't gotten up on its hind legs and kicked them out.
Thomas Jefferson To Samuel Kercheval
Monticello, January 19, 1810
SIR, -- Yours of the 7th instant has been duly received, with the
pamphlet inclosed, for which I return you my thanks. Nothing can be more
exactly and seriously true than what is there stated; that but a short
time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of the Jewish
religion, before his principles were departed from by those who
professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for
enslaving mankind, and aggrandising their oppressors in Church and
State; that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man, has
been adulterated and sophisticated by artificial constructions, into a
mere contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves; that rational
men not being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force
them down their throats, they raise the hue and cry of infidelity, while
themselves are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real
doctrines of Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ.
running with scissors
really? ever read mein kampf?
AbsolutelyCertain
"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:d0fe9d08.0409...@posting.google.com...
> > http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
>
>
> really? ever read mein kampf?
Is it similar to the Boys Life Guide to Camping?
BuZZard
<bush1help...@cia.com> wrote:
>In article <cimmj0577454unee0...@4ax.com>,
> BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been hearing of this NWO conspiracy
>> theory for over 30 years now, and it most likely goes back further
>> then that (take the Illuminati - since the 1500's right???). Most of
>> the people accused of being in these vast conspiracies have died off
>> and the newer ones replacing them seem pretty stupid!
>
>...and yet 99.4% of Roman Catholic dioceses in the U.S. have at least
>one convicted pedophile priest, many have dozens, and righteous America
>hasn't gotten up on its hind legs and kicked them out.
Whoa :)
Figuring my argument is about the NWO conspiracy burning itself out
raw for centuries, and yours is about some religious pedophiles... I
will try to make the connection somehow.
Ok, so - I think I made the connection you are re furring too....
ALL Roman Catholic Pedophile priests are the inheritors of the NWO
conspiracy to enslave the earth... which still supports my argument
100% - that they are all pretty stupid people, and there is no way
they could enslave humanity... being that pedophile priests are a
small minority of any christian religious belief.
>
>Thomas Jefferson To Samuel Kercheval
>
>Monticello, January 19, 1810
>
> SIR, -- Yours of the 7th instant has been duly received, with the
>pamphlet inclosed, for which I return you my thanks. Nothing can be more
>exactly and seriously true than what is there stated; that but a short
>time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of the Jewish
>religion, before his principles were departed from by those who
>professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for
>enslaving mankind, and aggrandising their oppressors in Church and
>State; that the purest system of morals ever before preached to man, has
>been adulterated and sophisticated by artificial constructions, into a
>mere contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves; that rational
>men not being able to swallow their impious heresies, in order to force
>them down their throats, they raise the hue and cry of infidelity, while
>themselves are the greatest obstacles to the advancement of the real
>doctrines of Jesus, and do in fact constitute the real Anti-Christ.
What is funny about that is - the Catholic church was a minority in
the USA during that time period, and still is today. I am sure, with
the power of the Internet Jefferson knew this too. Perhaps he is
speaking of something else, that your translation of events surpassed
due to your hatred of the Catholic church.
From what I got of that - he is talking about how some churches are
abusing their power through the manipulation of money... and how it is
very evil...
Jefferson had web access, and I am sure he googled all of the
information beforehand... I think you should to. I seriously love
when people qoute other people and have no clue how to read what they
wrote...
I do it all the time :)
Righteous Nation
BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote:
In Europe the same families have been sitting in the same castles on the
same hills for two and three thousand years. America's Founders
"arrested that course of despotism which had overwhelmed the world for
thousands & thousands of years": caesaropapism. Novus Ordo Seclorem: The
New Secular Order: No King, No Pope. Bush/Rockefeller are the tip of
their Fifth Column spear to destroy Whig Jeffersonian America.
Read a little more, study and pray.
BuZZard
>In Europe the same families have been sitting in the same castles on the
>same hills for two and three thousand years. America's Founders
>"arrested that course of despotism which had overwhelmed the world for
>thousands & thousands of years": caesaropapism. Novus Ordo Seclorem: The
>New Secular Order: No King, No Pope. Bush/Rockefeller are the tip of
>their Fifth Column spear to destroy Whig Jeffersonian America.
>
>Read a little more, study and pray.
Ok, now that is more like it - although I see a partial flaw in your
theory. The ruling families in europe are not in control of their
countries... they are controlled by a Parlement, and have Prime
Ministers. The kings and queens are simply there for "show".
I thought Rockefeller was dead....
Homeland_Insecurity
"C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
>
> There's not really much to wonder about, really. Unless you still believe
> 19 muslims defeated all of U.S. defense and intelligence.
No, no. It's all true. They did do such a thing.
Homeland_Insecurity
"Sir Circumference" <radi...@this.not> wrote in message
news:BYydnXZKhd2...@gbronline.com...
Dot connecting is informative?
Homeland_Insecurity
"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:d0fe9d08.0409...@posting.google.com...
Does it show that G P Bush did not fund Hitler?
redclay13
"Homeland_Insecurity" <insec...@homeland.net> wrote in message
news:F8h%c.17186$kY1.4...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
>
> "Sir Circumference" <radi...@this.not> wrote in message
> news:BYydnXZKhd2...@gbronline.com...
> > > second world war by american money and ressources.
> > > Prescott Bush (George's father) was the man lol
> >
> > And your point is?
>
> Dot connecting is informative?
American businessmen and business titans in general. Recall that the U. S.
government looked the other way because it was thought vital information
could be gained concerning Hitler's intentions. That was bull it was about
money, nothing more nothing less. Same as all the examples of CIA people
starting companies to "spy" on our enemies, more bull. Write your
Congressmen and ask them how much information came from Cheney and
Halliburton about Iran while they were doing business there? Make those
pukes you elected earn their salary and benefits; they have already earned
the bribes.
BuZZard
<insec...@homeland.net> wrote:
>
>"C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
>news:Xns955BE87485FF7s...@207.14.113.17...
>>
>> There's not really much to wonder about, really. Unless you still believe
>> 19 muslims defeated all of U.S. defense and intelligence.
>
>No, no. It's all true. They did do such a thing.
Well, now I don't know... from what I have read on this NG it could be
one of the following groups:
Aliens, the President, the Chinese, the Russians, the Isrealis, Al
Quada, the Illuminati, a secret US government....
blah blah blah.
>
>
>>
>> --
>> http://BeDoper.com - BeOS and a hell of a lot more
>>
>> Virgin Message Board
>> http://bedoper.com/cgi-bin/plugins/BBS/bedoper_ubb/Ultimate.cgi?
>> action=intro
>>
>> Gortician's Not Dead, Punk
>> http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=15537
>>
>>
>>
>
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Homeland_Insecurity
"BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> wrote in message
news:qqhsj094kudfa9h04...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:40:20 GMT, "Homeland_Insecurity"
> <insec...@homeland.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> >news:Xns955BE87485FF7s...@207.14.113.17...
> >>
> >> There's not really much to wonder about, really. Unless you still
believe
> >> 19 muslims defeated all of U.S. defense and intelligence.
> >
> >No, no. It's all true. They did do such a thing.
>
> Well, now I don't know... from what I have read on this NG it could be
> one of the following groups:
> Aliens, the President, the Chinese, the Russians, the Isrealis, Al
> Quada, the Illuminati, a secret US government....
> blah blah blah.
Aliens have been known to fuck with the US ofA and its military. No?
running with scissors
ahhhh nimrod raises his vacuous cranium above the detritus.
does Victoria Beckham's autobiography claim that it was not she that
discovered penecillin?
funnily enough Mein Kampf doesnt show that GP Bush funded hitler nor
the german workers party, nor the nazi party.
so shitstick have you booked that ticket to LAX for the beating you so
desired to give me, following the opportunity i have given you to do
such ?
running with scissors
uh huh with brown shirts.
running with scissors
good grief! learn modern history will you !
Homeland_Insecurity
Tell us all about it runninng with cock in-hand.
Homeland_Insecurity
Then why mention it as a response to documented facts on prescotts dealings,
cunt?
>
>
> so shitstick have you booked that ticket to LAX for the beating you so
> desired to give me, following the opportunity i have given you to do
> such ?
Cunt, learn to read.
AbsolutelyCertain
Haw -- hee -- haw! You said cock!
AbsolutelyCertain
Har -- dee -- har! You said cunt!
running with scissors
good grief !
khobar
Yeah, but he has a point. RWS is definitely comprehension impaired and does
tend to throw irrelevant statements into the pot presumably in an attempt to
dazzle the group with his, err, brilliance.
Paul Nixon
running with scissors
> "BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> wrote in message
> news:qqhsj094kudfa9h04...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:40:20 GMT, "Homeland_Insecurity"
> > <insec...@homeland.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> > >news:Xns955BE87485FF7s...@207.14.113.17...
> > >>
> > >> There's not really much to wonder about, really. Unless you still
> believe
> > >> 19 muslims defeated all of U.S. defense and intelligence.
> > >
> > >No, no. It's all true. They did do such a thing.
> >
> > Well, now I don't know... from what I have read on this NG it could be
> > one of the following groups:
> > Aliens, the President, the Chinese, the Russians, the Isrealis, Al
> > Quada, the Illuminati, a secret US government....
> > blah blah blah.
>
> Aliens have been known to fuck with the US ofA and its military. No?
>
>
with regard to your continued dissent towards the USA its
administrative history and your bizarre conspiracy theories, has it
ever occurred to you to fuck off to to another country to live ? or is
your dissent just hot air(like your desire to give me a beating, which
when given the opportunity to do so have waffled and side stepped but
*STILL* no ticket to LAX booked) or despite your contrinued
condemnation of the USA and its administrative history, you prefer the
benfits it presents to you rather than relocating.
BuZZard
>> Well, now I don't know... from what I have read on this NG it could be
>> one of the following groups:
>> Aliens, the President, the Chinese, the Russians, the Isrealis, Al
>> Quada, the Illuminati, a secret US government....
>> blah blah blah.
>
>Aliens have been known to fuck with the US ofA and its military. No?
>
Well, according to many people aliens have impregnated women to get
hybrid babies... but there is no scientific proof that this is
happening - depending on who you ask, I guess the aliens have been
having a bit of fun in the sack with the women of the USA... and why
not... I mean, if I had a super technological mind control device that
made hot women turn into super sluts - I would use it especially on
the hottest women in the world - USA chicks... although I would most
likely wind up dead because my wife would beat me over the head with
it repeatedly... so then again... I doubt I would use it.... hmmm... I
would give it to the ugliest man in the world! It would be like he
won the lottery... see how nice I am?
I think one day people will actually gather all of their senses and
realize that it is ok to be nice to others, and stop trying to pass
the blame... I mean, according to all these conspiracy theories -
almost everyone under the sun is responsible for 911... It is getting
a bit laughable if you ask me.
BuZZard
(running with scissors) wrote:
<Snip>
>>
>> Aliens have been known to fuck with the US ofA and its military. No?
>>
>>
>
>with regard to your continued dissent towards the USA its
>administrative history and your bizarre conspiracy theories, has it
>ever occurred to you to fuck off to to another country to live ? or is
>your dissent just hot air(like your desire to give me a beating, which
>when given the opportunity to do so have waffled and side stepped but
>*STILL* no ticket to LAX booked) or despite your contrinued
>condemnation of the USA and its administrative history, you prefer the
>benfits it presents to you rather than relocating.
Crazy conspiracy theories are why this group exists... without it I
would not have the entertainment I now enjoy! Whilst I hope you are
referring to H_I about some kind of combat exchange let me just say
that threatening bodily harm on another person over the internet is
pretty fruitless (all the internet is = little atoms and elections).
People have no faces... no one knows who anyone is...
so, that said....
I am a god
:)
Anarch Peak
news:g5vuj0tmt91e9gos4...@4ax.com:
> hmmm... I
> would give it to the ugliest man in the world!
Meat->Plow or Gary Burnore?
running with scissors
thats MR. Running to you.
and well seeing as i am not being 'paid' to provide you with an
education, perhaps not, you should really try learning and formulating
opions for yourself.
you booked that ticket to LAX to give me that beating you so desired.
i am not going anywhere still, and waiting for you to visit, perhaps
your sidekick could join you and hold your jacket, eastman most likley
cant change his part time shift at blockbusters Yakima, Wa.
running with scissors
because my little purveyor of literature, its a non-sequitur.
>
> >
> >
> > so shitstick have you booked that ticket to LAX for the beating you so
> > desired to give me, following the opportunity i have given you to do
> > such ?
>
> Cunt, learn to read.
mmmmm yes, and punctuate too ?
running with scissors
mmm yes of course nixon; the king of irrelevant statements and the
comprehension impared.
BuZZard
>BuZZard <krom...@here.com> wrote in
>news:g5vuj0tmt91e9gos4...@4ax.com:
>
>> hmmm... I
>> would give it to the ugliest man in the world!
>
>Meat->Plow or Gary Burnore?
I think I would determine that by a majority vote done by women...
The candidates can would be chosen through the use of alien technology
also... unfortunately the contest would be restricted to the USA...
Homeland_Insecurity
"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:d0fe9d08.04090...@posting.google.com...
news:<K9v%c.21157$kY1.7...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
> > "BuZZard" <krom...@here.com> wrote in message
> > news:qqhsj094kudfa9h04...@4ax.com...
> > > On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:40:20 GMT, "Homeland_Insecurity"
> > > <insec...@homeland.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"C-Fresh" <mas...@mason.snuh> wrote in message
> > > >news:Xns955BE87485FF7s...@207.14.113.17...
> > > >>
> > > >> There's not really much to wonder about, really. Unless you still
> > believe
> > > >> 19 muslims defeated all of U.S. defense and intelligence.
> > > >
> > > >No, no. It's all true. They did do such a thing.
> > >
> > > Well, now I don't know... from what I have read on this NG it could be
> > > one of the following groups:
> > > Aliens, the President, the Chinese, the Russians, the Isrealis, Al
> > > Quada, the Illuminati, a secret US government....
> > > blah blah blah.
> >
> > Aliens have been known to fuck with the US ofA and its military. No?
> >
> >
>
> with regard to your continued dissent towards the USA its
> administrative history and your bizarre conspiracy theories, has it
> ever occurred to you to fuck off to to another country to live ?
How could you ask such as idiotic question, cunt?
or is
> your dissent just hot air(like your desire to give me a beating, which
> when given the opportunity to do so have waffled and side stepped but
> *STILL* no ticket to LAX booked) or despite your contrinued
> condemnation of the USA and its administrative history, you prefer the
> benfits it presents to you rather than relocating.
Learn to read, cunt. I made a special post on this topic. Stupid cunt.
Homeland_Insecurity
dealings with Hitler, cunt? Go fuck yourself and your little beeyatch broom.
Homeland_Insecurity
non-sequitur, stupid cunt.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > so shitstick have you booked that ticket to LAX for the beating you so
> > > desired to give me, following the opportunity i have given you to do
> > > such ?
> >
> > Cunt, learn to read.
>
> mmmmm yes, and punctuate too ?
Mmm, yes. Stupid cunt!
Homeland_Insecurity
Tehhheeh. MR. runs with cock in hand, stupid cunt.
>
> and well seeing as i am not being 'paid' to provide you with an
> education, perhaps not, you should really try learning and formulating
> opions for yourself.
I find it hard to believe you'd be paid for anything, stupid cunt.
LAG baby, LAG. Stupid Cunt!
> you booked that ticket to LAX to give me that beating you so desired.
> i am not going anywhere still, and waiting for you to visit, perhaps
> your sidekick could join you and hold your jacket, eastman most likley
> cant change his part time shift at blockbusters Yakima, Wa.
Stupid Cunt!
AbsolutelyCertain
> > when given the opportunity to do so have waffled and side stepped but
> > *STILL* no ticket to LAX booked) or despite your contrinued
> > condemnation of the USA and its administrative history, you prefer the
> > benfits it presents to you rather than relocating.
>
> Learn to read, cunt. I made a special post on this topic. Stupid cunt.
Oh man, two "cunts" in one line. Are you getting ready to pop a vein?
You made a "special post?" Oh God, that's so sad .... you must be terribly
disappointed. Are you getting counseling?
AbsolutelyCertain
> Mmm, yes. Stupid cunt!
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! You are really on a
roll now, Mr. Cornhole.
The world waits for your next dispatch.
running with scissors
Well Paul, firstly I would like to congratulate you on finding ally on
usenet, and personally it seems that both you and homeland_insecurity
have an extensive amount in common, though remember his sidekick,
they, like you, have been the recipients of much scorn and derision,
and it would be more appropriate to unify, hmm rather like the holy
trinity (!) than divide.
Now those congratulatory notes are out of the way, lets look at
"comprehension impaired and irrelevant statements" shall we?
-> "one third of the flight profile" being the key and repeated
wording.
-
-The *universal* assumption at the time was that fuel tanks were
*always*
-flammable.
-
-Paul Nixon
Remember that? It was only 9 days ago? No? How about, from mazor...
-And fuck yourself again for trying to twist my quote to say something
that
-you want rather than what it really meant.
That was 9 days ago too. !
Or how about this from mazor, circa the same time....
> > Since I'm the one who sat in on the meetings and the one who made the
> > point,I can say with complete authority, fuck you for trying to twist my
> > words into something you want them to mean. I'm right on this, you're
> > wrong on this, tough shit.
No, ok, lets go to a more 'recent time' all the way back to a couple
of day ago with your exchange with AC.....
-> "Everybody knew that the hydrogen-filled dirigible was a flying
bomb" and
-> yet that fact kept no one from flying on it. I guess it depends on
who you
-> consider to be "everybody".
-
-Uh, everybody.
-
-> As for your charge that the Boeing CWT design is somehow defective,
how?
-
-I never used the word "defective", and considering your present flap
here, I
-can't believe that you'd be putting words in someone's mouth at this
-juncture. The design is not defective. It's a question of whether
it is
-the safest and most desirable configuration and plan of operation. I
say
-that it's not. That's entirely my opinion, of course.
No ok how about your statement of three or so days ago:
-As I said before, if people hear what I don't say, that's their
problem, not
-mine.
-
-Paul Nixon
No, ok how about your exchange with Ralph of only a couple of days
ago:
-> Agreed re "Boeing Fuel Tank Design Assumption", but aparrently you
lack the
-> mental capacity to understand the "Boeing Fuel Tank Design
Assumption" does
-> not address the potential of vapors in an empty CWT being in an
"Inherently
-> Dangerous State".
-
-Define this "Inherently Dangerous State" and state how this differs
from
-"explosive state".
-
->
-> The Boeing CWT design is defective in it does not adress/deal
with/eliminate
-> the potential for fuel vapors in an empty CWT to be in an
"Inherently
-> Dangerous State".
-
-Ralph, what do you suppose "Inherently" means?
Or how about...
-> If we were in combat, you'd cover his butt and he would cover
yours.
-
-I doubt he could comprehend the meaning - he'd probably take it to be
some
-gay lame and think he was being witty.
So in the "comprehension impaired" and "irrelevant statements" stakes
I can only cede to your expertise in the subjects.
Now moving swiftly away from your penalty shoot-out abilities that
would leave Waddle, Batty and Southgate wincing, lets now look at your
statement regarding "dazzling the group with [his], err, brilliance"
by some of your quotations of, err, brilliance:
"Besides, from Kerry & Co's point of view - Cleland losing his limbs
stopped
him from carrying out more of the atrocities Kerry spoke of. I'd have
thought you'd have been happy about that result."
Hmmm, nice! Ok, how about
> But that's the story you want me to believe. And you apparently want me to
> believe that "the press" and "the protestors" are somehow responsible for
> this disaster. Nah, I ain't buying it. If those generals and politicians,
> any of them, had taken responsibility for their actions and their failure, I
> might have more respect for them, and for the myth. I don't. I don't
> believe the myth. It is an insult to anyone's intelligence.
Jane Fonda's just a bitch too, eh?
Paul Nixon
Quite brilliant! With the follow on...
> > Jane Fonda's just a bitch too, eh?
>
> Good answer, Paul. Gives us an idea how much actually care about this issue
> at all. Zero. All your sanctimonious bullshit was just that, bullshit.
>
You've made your position clear. I was merely pointing out the
foundation on
which your position is built.
Paul Nixon
Such brilliance... ok, how about...
-Actually you are quite wrong for two reasons: 1) the goal of Vietnam
was not
-victory over communism but rather containment, and 2) the containment
didn't
-work primarily because the US military forces were specifically
restricted
-from an open bombing campaign because that was considered counter to
the
-goal as noted in #1.
-Paul Nixon
Yet again: brilliant!
Now moving away from your quite 'brilliant' displays of 'brilliance',
lets look at the point that you were making reference to shall we:
-------------------------------
Arbitrary statement made: that the US government provided Hitler with
funding and resources "before and even during" (love that one! "Before
and even during") the Second World War.
My response: really? Ever read Mien Kampf?
Homeland_insecurity interjection: Does it show that G P Bush did not
fund Hitler?
My Response: ahhhh nimrod raises his vacuous cranium above the
detritus. Does Victoria Beckham's autobiography claim that it was not
she that discovered penicillin?
Funnily enough Mein Kampf doesn't show that GP Bush funded Hitler nor
the German workers party, nor the Nazi party.
Homeland_insecurity Response: Then why mention it as a response to
documented facts on prescotts dealings, cunt?
--------------------------------------
Now, Paul, you have made a couple of comments as to my education, or
lack thereof, and I can only correlate this with your inferiority
complex as to education.
Anyone who has even a rudimentary understanding of hitters rise to
dominance within the German workers party / Nazi party, and perhaps
even having a rudimentary understanding of Mein Kampf would know the
utter garbage of the statement.
For example, let look at this fact, prior the invasion of Poland and
Neville Chamberlain's "in my hand I have a piece of paper" quote:
"But despite all this effort, the Nazis now ran into a big obstacle
that limited the Party's success. Things were getting better in
Germany. The economy was improving and unemployment was dropping. The
big German industrialists were now debt free. Factory output was
increasing as investment capital came pouring in from the United
States.
An American named Charles G. Dawes had drawn up a plan, approved by
the Allies, which reduced German war reparations (the amount of money
Germany had to pay for damages it caused in the World War One). The
Dawes Plan stabilized the German currency, the mark. The plan also
provided for huge loans from America to help German industry rebuild.
The German government also borrowed from the U.S. to finance its vast
array of new social programs and municipal building projects including
airfields, sports stadiums and even swimming pools.
And Germany now had a new president, a sleepy-eyed old gentleman named
Paul von Hindenburg, a famous World War One Field Marshal. He was
unanimously backed by the conservative and middle-of-the-road
political parties to help bring stability to the republic and to
thwart any attempt by radical parties to capture the presidency."
Now the operative words, and we know your arbitrary notions concerning
specific wording, are "LOANS" and "INVESTMENT". Being a capitalist
structure, the US, like other capitalist structures seek, investment
opportunities outside its own geographic and political boundaries, and
loans outside of its geographic and political boundaries ensure
economic dominance over those areas. Much as the Soviet Union, being
*Socialist* didn't, and invested its economics within, the results of
which we see today as a technological and economic stunting of growth.
Bearing in mind that that the time of these investments and loans Von
Hindenburg was the president, not Hitler as an absolute ruler.
Perhaps you disagree with overseas investment, and prefer that
investment only occur within the geographic limitations of a country,
which would make you a socialist, though yet, you agree with Scott
"McCarthy" Kozel's assertion of *Me* being a "Pinko"
As things got better economically, there was a sense of relaxation
among the German populace, since they didn't have to struggle for
daily existence; they had time for enjoyment, outdoor recreation, the
arts, and sitting around beer halls and cafes. At the time, the name
of Adolf Hitler was likely to bring a smile, perhaps getting him a bit
confused with the great film comedian Charlie Chaplin who looked like
him and even had some of the same body language.
During this time, Hitler knew it was going to be slow going for his
party which had so many unhappy, disgruntled men among its early
members due to the then depressed economy, Hitler had a sense that the
good times would not last. The German republic was living on borrowed
money and borrowed time. (Ahh this American money that supposedly
"financed and resourced" Hitler) The underlying political and racial
tensions he was so keen to exploit were still there, only dormant. And
when the good times were over, they would once again come looking for
him and he would wait until the opportunity afforded most benefit.
Again, going back to Mein Kampf, if this had been read, a clear
understanding of Hitler's views on foreign economic influence thus the
whole basis of the point is in the fact that it is highly relevant,
pertinent and nothing to do with a display of what was it "err,
brilliance" but it is fact HISTORIC FACT and DIRECTLT RELEVANT to the
garbage posted.
I would therefore suggest that you undertake the following, not just
in part, but in whole:
1. Get over your inferiority complex about education.
2. Learn some fucking historical fact.
3. Shut the fuck up, as your pathetic whinnying about me, my "err,
brilliance" or my education, is making you look like an immature
jealous prick.
4. Get over yourself
5. Suck my balls.
AbsolutelyCertain
"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:d0fe9d08.04090...@posting.google.com...
> <Headers Snipped>
I'd just like to point out, my friends call me "Paulie."
running with scissors
> <snipped>
> >> Well, now I don't know... from what I have read on this NG it could be
> >> one of the following groups:
> >> Aliens, the President, the Chinese, the Russians, the Isrealis, Al
> >> Quada, the Illuminati, a secret US government....
> >> blah blah blah.
> >
> >Aliens have been known to fuck with the US ofA and its military. No?
> >
>
> Well, according to many people aliens have impregnated women to get
> hybrid babies... but there is no scientific proof that this is
> happening - depending on who you ask, I guess the aliens have been
> having a bit of fun in the sack with the women of the USA... and why
> not... I mean, if I had a super technological mind control device that
> made hot women turn into super sluts
it exists already..its called money !
- I would use it especially on
> the hottest women in the world - USA chicks...
ahhh lawyers would then get your secret device!
although I would most
> likely wind up dead because my wife would beat me over the head with
> it repeatedly...
unless its a platinum amex then it would be scorched.
running with scissors
> On 8 Sep 2004 13:20:01 -0700, aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com
> (running with scissors) wrote:
> <Snip>
> >>
> >> Aliens have been known to fuck with the US ofA and its military. No?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >with regard to your continued dissent towards the USA its
> >administrative history and your bizarre conspiracy theories, has it
> >ever occurred to you to fuck off to to another country to live ? or is
> >your dissent just hot air(like your desire to give me a beating, which
> >when given the opportunity to do so have waffled and side stepped but
> >*STILL* no ticket to LAX booked) or despite your contrinued
> >condemnation of the USA and its administrative history, you prefer the
> >benfits it presents to you rather than relocating.
>
> Crazy conspiracy theories are why this group exists...
not ADA!
> without it I
> would not have the entertainment I now enjoy!
ever read any Tarver?
> Whilst I hope you are
> referring to H_I about some kind of combat exchange
nope, he expressed a desire to give me a beating, i offered to meet
him at LAX if and when he posts the details of his booked ticket on
usenet.
> let me just say
> that threatening bodily harm on another person over the internet is
> pretty fruitless
uh huh!
khobar
That was uncalled for dude.
Say, do you think it will ever dawn on our resident genius RWS to actually
go and check when I used the "universal assumption" comment and in what
context, or do you think it's beyond his capability?
I think it's beyond his mental capacity.
Paul Nixon
running with scissors
such the linguist. so where is your post concerning this subjet ? did
you post it to ADA ?
or is your vitriole due to:
- you dont have a passport
- no-one wants within their borders
- you prefer the freedom of speech afforded in the US
- you cant find another country on a map
- your background makes you in-elligable to reside in another country
- you are scared of the dragons and beasties in other countries
please, provide the link to your dissertation on the subject.
running with scissors
because, our little rocket scientist,if you cared to read my response
to nixon on the subject, you would have the *FACTS* (oh there's that
word again) but then again you keep suggesting *I* should learn to
read.. but seeing as you sem to posses a learning difficulty or two
let me repost the information for you, and then you *MAY* understand
"why [it was] mention[ed] it as a response to documented facts on
prescotts [sic] dealings with Hitler, cunt? Go fuck yourself and your
little beeyatch broom."
---------------------
Anyone who has even a rudimentary understanding of Hitler's rise to
As things got better economically, there was a sense of relaxation
running with scissors
if that was an example of your punctuation abilities, it should be:
Mmm, yes; Stupid Cunt!
running with scissors
yes of course. which is why you have an infatuation with my genetalia.
>
> >
> > and well seeing as i am not being 'paid' to provide you with an
> > education, perhaps not, you should really try learning and formulating
> > opions for yourself.
>
> I find it hard to believe you'd be paid for anything, stupid cunt.
well seeing as you mis-interpreted the statement which is no great
suprise, you find most things hard to believe, mostly items of *FACT*.
>
> LAG baby, LAG. Stupid Cunt!
>
>
> > you booked that ticket to LAX to give me that beating you so desired.
> > i am not going anywhere still, and waiting for you to visit, perhaps
> > your sidekick could join you and hold your jacket, eastman most likley
> > cant change his part time shift at blockbusters Yakima, Wa.
>
> Stupid Cunt!
so i take it that after your claims of disires to give me a beating,
and my accomodation of that, you *STILL* have not managed to book a
ticket then?
running with scissors
hmm i seem to have acquired a fan !
Homeland_Insecurity
Huh.
Understanding Hitlers rise and Mein Kampf do not change the fact that
presscott bush funded/supplied him?
>
> For example, let look at this fact, prior the invasion of Poland and
> Neville Chamberlain's "in my hand I have a piece of paper" quote:
>
> "But despite all this effort, the Nazis now ran into a big obstacle
> that limited the Party's success. Things were getting better in
> Germany. The economy was improving and unemployment was dropping. The
> big German industrialists were now debt free. Factory output was
> increasing as investment capital came pouring in from the United
> States.
Uh huh.
>
> An American named Charles G. Dawes had drawn up a plan, approved by
> the Allies, which reduced German war reparations (the amount of money
> Germany had to pay for damages it caused in the World War One). The
> Dawes Plan stabilized the German currency, the mark. The plan also
> provided for huge loans from America to help German industry rebuild.
> The German government also borrowed from the U.S. to finance its vast
> array of new social programs and municipal building projects including
> airfields, sports stadiums and even swimming pools.
Uh huh.
>
> And Germany now had a new president, a sleepy-eyed old gentleman named
> Paul von Hindenburg, a famous World War One Field Marshal. He was
> unanimously backed by the conservative and middle-of-the-road
> political parties to help bring stability to the republic and to
> thwart any attempt by radical parties to capture the presidency."
>
> Now the operative words, and we know your arbitrary notions concerning
> specific wording, are "LOANS" and "INVESTMENT". Being a capitalist
> structure, the US, like other capitalist structures seek, investment
> opportunities outside its own geographic and political boundaries, and
> loans outside of its geographic and political boundaries ensure
> economic dominance over those areas. Much as the Soviet Union, being
> *Socialist* didn't, and invested its economics within, the results of
> which we see today as a technological and economic stunting of growth.
> Bearing in mind that that the time of these investments and loans Von
> Hindenburg was the president, not Hitler as an absolute ruler.
Nice.
>
> As things got better economically, there was a sense of relaxation
> among the German populace, since they didn't have to struggle for
> daily existence; they had time for enjoyment, outdoor recreation, the
> arts, and sitting around beer halls and cafes. At the time, the name
> of Adolf Hitler was likely to bring a smile, perhaps getting him a bit
> confused with the great film comedian Charlie Chaplin who looked like
> him and even had some of the same body language.
Maybe Great great grandson g W should be sent this info?
>
> During this time, Hitler knew it was going to be slow going for his
> party which had so many unhappy, disgruntled men among its early
> members due to the then depressed economy, Hitler had a sense that the
> good times would not last. The German republic was living on borrowed
> money and borrowed time. (Ahh this American money that supposedly
> "financed and resourced" Hitler) The underlying political and racial
> tensions he was so keen to exploit were still there, only dormant. And
> when the good times were over, they would once again come looking for
> him and he would wait until the opportunity afforded most benefit.
Glass half empty pessimists!
> Again, going back to Mein Kampf, if this had been read, a clear
> understanding of Hitler's views on foreign economic influence thus the
> whole basis of the point is in the fact that it is highly relevant,
> pertinent and nothing to do with a display of what was it "err,
> brilliance" but it is fact HISTORIC FACT and DIRECTLT RELEVANT to the
> garbage posted.
Long winded non-sequintor.
The business relationships established by Bush in 1923 continued even after
the war started until they became so offensive and overt as to warrant
seizure by the U.S. government under the Trading with the Enemy Act in 1942.
In 1942, "Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over
Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien
Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares...
"On October 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front
organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading
Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation."
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
Homeland_Insecurity
"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:d0fe9d08.04090...@posting.google.com...
Scorn from revisionists is a compliment.
>
> Now those congratulatory notes are out of the way, lets look at
> "comprehension impaired and irrelevant statements" shall we?
We already did. See: running with scissors blames Hitler first.
Knowing your reading comprehension, you have nothing to stand on with your
shrieks posted below. Furthermore, anyone who mentions AC, also known as
absolutely Kooky, has no credibility whatsoever.
Homeland_Insecurity
Then when will you start editing all your previously posted shrieking?
Homeland_Insecurity
Do I?
>
> >
> > >
> > > and well seeing as i am not being 'paid' to provide you with an
> > > education, perhaps not, you should really try learning and formulating
> > > opions for yourself.
> >
> > I find it hard to believe you'd be paid for anything, stupid cunt.
>
> well seeing as you mis-interpreted the statement which is no great
> suprise, you find most things hard to believe, mostly items of *FACT*.
Mis-interpeted your revisionist History as fact? No way, stupid cunt.
>
> >
> > LAG baby, LAG. Stupid Cunt!
> >
> >
> > > you booked that ticket to LAX to give me that beating you so desired.
> > > i am not going anywhere still, and waiting for you to visit, perhaps
> > > your sidekick could join you and hold your jacket, eastman most likley
> > > cant change his part time shift at blockbusters Yakima, Wa.
> >
> > Stupid Cunt!
>
> so i take it that after your claims of disires to give me a beating,
> and my accomodation of that, you *STILL* have not managed to book a
> ticket then?
Stupid cunt!