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From: bate...@pacbell.net
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:33:25 -0700
Subject: Re: [prj] Lloyd's World Conservation Bank Article

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> >While IMHO Lloyd is the utimate conspiracy monger and an extremist in his
> >reactionary vews, IMHO the following analysis or the Reagan/Bush
economic
> >scenario from his web site was pretty accurate. I don't know about the
> World
> >Conservation Bank or its role, but perhaps John and our resident bankers
> can
> >provide some information on that.
>
> The above is absurd..."extremist in his reactionary views"? I am a
> libertarian,
> an extreme one that expouses a theory that the "STATE" is a control
> device for the ruling class. Using the word "reactionary" summons up
> totally
> erroneous ideas of what my views are. Why not say libertarian conspiracy
> theorist instead of "reactionary"? The article quoted is one that I
wrote
> personally and is typical of my views, not a miraculous exception.
>
> It was written some time ago after representatives from the world's
> mega-banks
> including David Rockefeller and one of the Rothschilds attended the World
> Conservation Bank conference in Colorado. I don't think the bank ever
took
> the specific institutional proposed, but I have heard that the World Bank
> does
> now loan money to Countries based on wilderness areas being held-off the
> market....it would be interesting to know the extent to which such
> conditionalities
> have been implemented.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John H.St.John <ho...@abac.com>
> To: realit...@egroups.com <realit...@egroups.com>
> Cc: realit...@makelist.com <realit...@makelist.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 5:36 PM
> Subject: [Reality_Pump] Re: LLoyd and A-Albion
>
> At 12:24 PM 6/23/99 EDT, RONC...@aol.com wrote:
> >While IMHO Lloyd is the utimate conspiracy monger and an extremist in his
> >reactionary vews, IMHO the following analysis or the Reagan/Bush
economic
> >scenario from his web site was pretty accurate. I don't know about the
> World
> >Conservation Bank or its role, but perhaps John and our resident bankers
> can
> >provide some information on that.
> >
> >Following this article is another on environmentalism that's not quite so
> >accurate, but is pretty extreme in its allegations.
> >
> >>>Article Below Reprinted from the Summer-Fall 1991 _Project_, the
> Quarterly
> >Journal of A-albionic Research, PO Box 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220-0273.
> >This article may be forwarded and/or reprinted without limit as long as
> >the A-albionic address is left attached.
> >
> > What Is Happening to the Economy?
> >
> > Since only the most "religious" readers of the Project are
> >likely to remember our economic analysis of Summer 1988 (Volume
> >V, Number 3), we will review:
> >
> > In spite of Reaganite propaganda to the contrary, we have
> >been in a depression since the Volker engineered interest rate
> >spike in 1979 (20% plus) that brought the "post WWII" economic
> >prosperity to an end exactly 50 years after "1929" in true
> >Kondratief 50 year cycle fashion. This primary fact is veiled
> >from most analysts, even Kondratief analysts, by the monetary
> >mechanics of the Post WWII welfare/warfare state. The built-in
> >stabilizer of monetizing a wasteful budget deficit prevents the
> >classic crash that resulted in 30% unemployment in the 30's and
> >substitutes a "real goods" depression in which increasingly
> >worker grinding, labor intensive economic activity persists as
> >the new money flows into the economy, but real wages and living
> >standards (adjusted for inflation) slip lower and lower.
> >
> >Workerseither scramble frantically for less and less or leave the work
> >force and find a subsistence in the welfare end or fade away in
> >crime, prison, or other forms of degradation.
> >
> > After setting the preceding Kondratief scenario (driven by a
> >50 generational cycle within the conspiracy itself), we predicted
> >a new long-wave expansion (not prosperity in the old sense) based
> >on issuing money through a World Conservation Bank which would
> >hold wilderness areas and other natural resources off the market
> >as collateral. We did not predict true prosperity, but only an
> >increasing tempo of grinding labor intensive activity as the
> >populace is denied access to reasonably priced natural resources
> >under the guise of "environmentalism."
> >
> > Our error in 1988 was in suggesting (hoping?) that we were
> >perhaps already at the bottom of the cycle. Unfortunately, it is
> >now clear that we were not. This may be the bottom now or an
> >even worse bottom may occur within a year or two! However, it
> >now appears that in spite of Bush- Congressional pig-headedness
> >regarding the budget deficit and Federal Reserve foot dragging,
> >the debt monetization is now proceeding full blast and will check
> >the economy's free fall soon in preparation for the predicted,
> >"environmentally sound" World Conservation Bank monetization of
> >untapped world resources, in particular, the Amazon, Africa,
> >Siberia, Asia, etc.
> >
> > Bush's repudiation of Reagan-Conservative-Vatican economic
> >growth and concurrence in the shocking "bottoming out" the
> >economy that could very well cost him his second term can only be
> >another example of his Anglophile "Skull and Bones" roots taking
> >precedence over his personal ambitions. We can expect Bush to
> >systematically repudiate the temporary Vatican-Conservative
> >alliance that brought him to power as he moves back to
> >Rockefeller-Republican positions. The final straw will be when
> >he moves to support abortion, probably only if he is elected for
> >his second term.
> >
> >
> >On the other hand, his views on envrionmentalism are totally unrealistic
> and
> >reactionary.
> >
> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Article Below Reprinted from the Summer-Fall 1991 _Project_, the
Quarterly
> >Journal of A-albionic Research, PO Box 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220-0237.
> >Article may be forwarded without limit and/or reprinted as long as the
> >A-albionic address remains attached.
> >
> >2. Environmentalism: The New Radicalism?
> >
> > Many conservative journals in the "responsible"
> >conservative, Buckleyite orbit have been pushing the line that
> >socialism is dead and that environmentalism will be the new credo
> >for radicals, insightfully noting (especially ex-radical David
> >Horowitz in the National Review) that the alleged intended
> >beneficiaries but actual victims of the radical elitists, "the
> >people", have finally wised-up and rejected their socialist
> >program, something the new radical constituency, "the
> >environment" or "nature", will never be able to do!
> >Environmentalism will be the perfect arena for radicals to act
> >out their hatred for real human beings, dashing their hopes and
> >dreams for a decent life in the name of an unobtainable "return
> >to nature".
> >
> > Though additional clean-up or anti-pollution costs must be
> >imposed on the economy whenever a human action can be shown to
> >damage other human beings, we tend to concur with the
> >conservatives that something else, but not necessarily only
> >hatred for humanity among radicals, is at work in the
> >increasingly dominating and extreme environmental purity
> >movement. A something else that would lead the well-financed,
> >Club of Rome worshiping World Watch magazine to state during
> >Desert Storm that the real crisis in the middle east is
> >population growth.
> >
> >A something else that would lead George Bush,
> >over the opposition of conservatives, to cave-in to the unproven
> >"global warming" and disproved "acid rain" agendas of the radical
> >environmentalists. A something else that allows the
> >environmental extremists to get away with "snail darter" and
> >"spotted owl" frauds whenever the Establishment get serious about
> >stamping-out a particular economic activity ...and on and on.
> >
> > In fact, the ruling class/conspiracy sees the earth as their
> >own and the great mass of human beings, especially those
> >exceeding the number of required servants and soldiers, as
> >trespassers in the same way King John, in Robin Hood, refused to
> >allow starving peasants to use lands and forests reserved for his
> >personal hunting expeditions! This is the mind set behind
> >Establishment support for Global 2000 and Club of Rome
> >environmental extremism in general. It was also the mind set
> >behind Establishment support for Communism as shown in the Winter
> >1987-88 Project. Communism was seen by the Establishment as a
> >method of retarding normal capitalist development of entire
> >continents, namely the Eurasian land mass ceded to the Soviet and
> >Chinese communists. Though human initiative was drastically
> >curtailed, what they didn't foresee was that, in the absence of a
> >legal system in which individuals and groups could sue to redress
> >damages, commissars would operate their plants to meet quotas in
> >total disregard of environmental damage!
> >
> > Thus we see that what would otherwise be only a
> >psychological quirk of a minority of intellectuals, namely
> >radical hatred for humanity, is amplified and spread to society
> >at large, first to promote socialism and now to promote
> >environmentalism.<<
> >
>
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> ---
> >-----
> >
> >IMHO, Lloyd hates everyone in any kind of power, and appears to me to be
a
> >real, live reactionary anarchist. His dissertation on environmentalism
is
> >not only ultralibertarian, but totally incorrect, in direct contrast to
> his
> >analysis of the Reagan/Bush economy.
> >
> >If I had to hang a handle on his views and the books he touts, which
> >incidentally include several that I've read that have helped develop some
> of
> >my insights, such as 'Robert Anton Wilson's books, I'd consider his
views
> to
> >be reactionary negativism.
> >
> >ron
> >
> >ron
>
> Don't drink this glass of milk. It has cyanide in it, or maybe PCBS and
> terminator seeds.
>
> John
> >
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BF>A few questions:

1>What is a reactionary? This one is not exactly for Lloyd, but a
general question.

2>Why do socialists have a "hatred for humanity"? Can you explain what
you mean?

3>Are not all political agendas, Right and Left, a mask for unseen
oligarchies and thus not really movements with a mind of their own?

Corallary:Is not an attack on socialists, "reactionary anarchists", or
anyone else simply a mask for divide and conquer?

4>How did "socialists" convert from being pro-technology and pro-science
<the Enlightenment> to being presumably environmental extremists?

5>How do you know that the Establishment backed Communism? <Outside of,
let's say, Eustace Mullins, "The Committee of 300", and perhaps some
anarchist propaganda?

6>Is there no truth in environmentalist claims?

7>Are LaRouche and others who claim that the environmental movement is
racist and oligarchical simply tools of Communist Moscow, Communist
China, and NWO capitalist New York in their quest to be rid of the last
vestiges of Old Order (Rhodes, Jesuit, etc.) aristocratic controls over
the heirarchies of modernism?

8>Is socialism, a human-based collectivism, really equivalent to
environmentalism, which is often closer to anarchism and/or
traditionalism?

9>Does the Earth have rights?

10>Is there no truth at all to the population problem as promoted by the
NWO, the Establishment Left, and the racist Right?

Not comments (honestly), just questions. Thankyou.
MHO.
"I know nothing"-Socrates.
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From: bate...@pacbell.net
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:41:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [prj] Re: [Reality_Pump] Re: Clinton Lays Out His Agenda,
Impresses Eventhe Naysayers

BF>You are right. Clinton IS essentially a right-wing authoritarian
fanatic disguised as a liberal.
What occured, however, was an attempt at a coup d'tat, NOT the
restoration of Constitutional government. You spent so much time
accusing me of being a Clintonite and a LaRouchist that the truth of my
argument (which you knew enough to agree with) was not acknowledged.
The coup HAS succeeded in all but a de jure form, with almost
disasterous consequences for the stability of the world. Clinton may
have saved the day (for the Rockefeller/multi-nationalist faction) and
undone the actions of bombing the very day Primakov was arriving to meet
with Clinton (!) by negotiating with the Russians, but the coup still
appears to be in place.
MHO.
"I know nothing"-Socrates
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From: Paul vanOosten <van...@mnsi.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:04:40 -0400
Subject: [prj] [Fwd: CHP Communique No 24]

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I'm sure you will find this more than just interesting. Think of how
this legilation will affect the moral environment of Canada. Act now to
preserve it.

Paul

Vol. 6 No 24 June 21, 1999
Communiqué

Constitution will die - death by 1,000 cuts or be guillotined by
Chretien
Liberals

The Chretien Government is reported to be preparing to offer
Pro-family
Members of Parliament a choice that Tom Wappel describes as "between
death by guillotine or death by a thousand cuts." What the Prime
Minister does NOT plan to offer MPs is the option of preserving the
natural family, nor a government that honours our Constitution's
commitment to "the Supremacy of God."
God's opinion on families and sex is, it is now clear, utterly
irrelevant to the Liberal cabinet, the NDP and the Bloc Quebecois. And
who cares what the Constitution says?
When Bill C-78 sparked a back-bench rebellion by six Liberals, and
three others abstained, the Chretien cabinet realized it could face
dozens of messy battles with backbench MPs over its agenda to impose
special gay rights on Canada. So the Chretien cabinet has revived the
idea of one huge omnibus bill to rid all federal laws of discrimination
against same-sex couples to get the controversy over with in one blow,
rather than amend 58 laws, as they knuckle under to court rulings which
order elected governments to treat homosexual and heterosexual couples
equally.
It is now conveniently forgotten that the Parliamentary committee
that debated Section 15 of the Charter for two days in 1981 voted
overwhelmingly NOT to include "sexual orientation". The Supreme Court
crushed that deliberation by the elected representatives of the Canadian
people, and democracy died.
"The omnibus approach was considered earlier this year but was rejected
as too complicated," writes Joan Bryden in The Ottawa Citizen. "Liberal
strategists were encouraged to take a piecemeal approach by the fact
that no one seemed to notice when Immigration Minister Lucienne
Robillard announced she would open the door to same-sex immigrant
couples as part of an overhaul of the Immigration Act" that decision was
made in cabinet, without reference to the House of Commons, which the
Chretien cabinet clearly holds in contempt. "But senior officials say
the omnibus approach is now back in favour after (the) divisive vote on
the public service pension bill. That experiment with the piecemeal
approach to gay rights has convinced Liberal strategists that an omnibus
bill would probably be less divisive and less risky.
In the end, the pension bill passed 137-118. But the nine Liberals
who opposed it would have been enough to defeat the bill and bring down
the Government, had all opposition MPs shown up to vote against it.
Opposition parties had said they opposed a provision allowing the
government to loot $30 billion of surplus funds- out of the public
service pension plan; but in the end, they were apparently more
interested in extending inappropriate rights to homosexuals - than in
protecting civil service pension rights.
Mps were not allowed a free vote, but insiders say the nine
dissident Liberals will not be punished.
Liberal Party strategists say their MPs would likely be allowed to
vote according to their consciences on an omnibus bill, but they're not
worried: "We would win an omnibus bill, even on a free vote, because
we've got the automatic support of the Bloc (Quebecois) and the NDP
members. It wouldn't matter if some Liberals voted against it," said
one. "By making it a free vote, it would ease a lot of the tensions and
everyone would be happy."
During the Chretien Liberals' first term, the Prime Minister
allowed a free vote on a bill to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act to
protect sexual orientation. More than two dozen Liberal MPs voted
against that bill, but it passed easily with the support of the NDP and
BQ. At that time, Prime Minister Chretien dismissed the objections of
tens of thousands of Canadian Christians as "a bunch of evangelical
nut-cases", according to a cabinet insider who wishes to remain
anonymous.
Pro-family, Pro-Life and Pro-Moral "nut cases" will obviously remain
powerless in the nation's public life, and the Constitution will
continue to be eviscerated to pander to a deviant 2% minority, until and
unless Christians and other people of faith, unite to support the only
registered Federal party that has publicly declared its commitment to
the Canadian Constitution's declaration of the Supremacy of God: the
CHP.

CHRISTIAN HERITAGE PARTY of CANADA
Heritage Place 155 Queen Street, Suite 200 Ottawa, Ontario K1P 6L1
Ph. (613) 788-3716 Fax (905) 788-2943 E-mail: edch...@iaw.on.ca

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From: wooly <wo...@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:25:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [prj] Lloyd a Reactionary Anarchist?

>"Lloyd hates anyone in any kind of power" is simply a lie. Everyone knows
I
>am
>not opposed to economic power justly obtained. Of course, political power
>should
>be eliminated entirely as all consistent libertarians believe.

As a self-described "libertarian", I must respectfully disagree with you,
Lloyd, regarding "political power".

Of course our disagreement may be entirely a matter of semantics, but such
semantics are a major problem for the libertarian movement.

"Libertarian" might be defined in various ways, but I personally believe in
the "non-aggression principle", the notion that a libertarian has but one
moral obligation, to refrain from initiating force or fraud. (Other
beliefs and obligations might be taken on by individuals on a voluntary
basis).

"Political power" to me includes any type of control or influence a person
might wield using group dynamics. Thus any influence within a community
could be a form of political power, including a lot of what is called
"economic power". Political power is not inherently a violation of the
non-aggression principle. "Politics" in it's original Greek context meant
merely "the affairs of the polis", the affairs of the community. As states
have increasingly tried to monopolize political activity many people have
tended to confuse "politics" with "governmental affairs". No alternative
definition is usually used rigorously, so I prefer to keep the old Greek
one. But even the everyday use of the term "politics" includes a lot more
than "governmental affairs". For instance, to the extent that your efforts
to pass information via this list effect anyone's actions, I would say that
you, Lloyd are engaging in political activity and are wielding political
power. How much power is involved might be hard to gauge, but it is real.

What's your definition of "political power" Lloyd?

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From: wooly <wo...@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:23:17 -0400
Subject: Re: [prj] defining "anarchist"

>
>BF>Is it your opinion that the ruling elite actually FUNDS both sides of
>the conflict to divide and conquer?
>

Yes, but I think less direct forms of support are more significant.

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From: "Lloyd Miller" <ll...@a-albionic.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:39:15 -0400
Subject: [prj] Re: [Reality_Pump] Re: Lloyd's World Conservation Bank
Article

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Ron: Reactionary is not a well-defined term. Communists made
the most use of this term to smear anyone who disagreed with
their "wave of the future".....I react to things I disagree with as do you.

I react against things like growing tyranny even if they are the wave
of the future.

My theories are specifically not anti-Semitic as I have explained at
great length. Of course, I am opposed to all religion, esp. ignorant
tribal ones like Judaism and ignorant "universal" ones like Catholicism.

Do you really endorse all the Pope political, moral, and religious
pronouncements? If not, you are anti-Catholic. {Note: All my relatives
are Catholic). I am not "anti"...them, I just point-out how ridiculous
and oppressive their religion is...} The Catholic is a fountainhead
of Fascism as I am sure you well know...

Your railing against self-interest is silly! You must have no experience
in the real world whatever! What is necessary is that self-interest not
be confined to the ruling class! We must not fall for the self-sacrificial
ideologies such as Environmentalism being preached by the ruling
class through their Foundations.

Lloyd
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From: RONC...@aol.com <RONC...@aol.com>
To: realit...@egroups.com <realit...@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 9:53 AM
Subject: [Reality_Pump] Re: Lloyd's World Conservation Bank Article

In a message dated 6/28/99 6:42:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ll...@a-albionic.com writes:

<< The above is absurd..."extremist in his reactionary views"? I am a
libertarian,
an extreme one that expouses a theory that the "STATE" is a control
device for the ruling class. Using the word "reactionary" summons up
totally
erroneous ideas of what my views are. Why not say libertarian conspiracy
theorist instead of "reactionary"? >>

As I said, Lloyd, and as you confirmed above, you are a reactionary
extremist, and a cosnpiracy monger. Surely you're aware of the definition
of
political reactionary, and cognizant of the reactionary nature of your
views,
in your posts and web sites.

IMO your conspiracy convictions differ little from of those of the christian
patriot movement, and similar militia movements that indugle in agiprop
essentially calling for violent overthrow of the government. The fact is
Lloyd, that contemporary reality regarding climate change and potentially
catasotrophic naturally disasters, the portents of Y2K, etc. have to be
faced. Denial of global warming, atmospheric and waterways pollution, acid
rain, etc, thanks to the Libertarian's beloved unrestrained capitalism,.
does not make them go away, nor does continually polluting the internet with
archaic and paranoid Illuminati and occult conspiracy theories.

There is one source of socioeconomic dissociation today, and that is the
concept of egocentric materialism promulgated and perpetuated by western
capitalist corporate culture. The accumulation of personal wealth and power
over the lives of others encourages an elitism that's interpretted as a
divine right to rule. Illuminati, Masonic, Vatican, Rosicrucian, Jewish,
Thule Society, or whatever conspiracies are irrelevant and largely fiction,
in any case - the root cause of our contemporary human problems remain
simply
power lust, greed, and denial of the essential spiritual nature of man.
However, I do find your anticatholicism and antisemetism expressed in your
conspiracty theories offensive, as I'm sure any tolerant person would.

On the other hand, many of your observations are valid historically, and
I,
for one, appreciate factual representation of the history I've personally
lived through. Your web site is comprehensive and well worth visiting,
though designed to sell books. That, incidentally, raises questions
regarding your own convictions - are you conspiracy mongering because you
beleive in them, or simply to sell books?

ron

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http://www.constitution.net/

The Draft Jesse Ventura
for President Committee
Tax Plan (developing):
http://news.mpr.org/features/199808/05_mccalluml_venturatax/index.shtml
http://www.presidentventura.com/

The Libertarian Party
Tax Plan: Select "Text Files" on the Left.
http://harrybrowne2000.org/

Steve Forbes
Tax Plan:
http://www.forbes2000.com/hq/policy_agenda/economic_security.html#flattax
http://www.forbes2000.com/

THIRD PARTIES
http://www.ccnet.com/~suntzu75/thirds.htm

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From: "Peter L. Sroufe" <deep...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:34:19 -0700
Subject: [prj] Socialism in America [the enemy within]

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Socialism in America is alive, well, and growing. Aided by such influential
Congressmen as John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House Judicial Committee,
David Bonior, the pit-bull-dog who successfully whipped Newt, Maxine Waters,
the President's outspoken defender in the impeachment debates, and nearly
fifty Representatives, socialism is advancing in America behind the
"Progressive" label. Here are a few excerpts taken directly from the web
page of the Democratic Socialists of America.
http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html

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From: "Peter L. Sroufe" <deep...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:41:50 -0700
Subject: [prj] Congressional Members of the [Socialist] Progressive Caucus
[the enemy of Freedom]

Socialism in America is alive, well, and growing. Aided by such influential
Congressmen as John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House Judicial Committee,
David Bonior, the pit-bull-dog who successfully whipped Newt, Maxine Waters,
the President's outspoken defender in the impeachment debates, and nearly 60
other Representatives, socialism is advancing in America behind the
"Progressive" label. Here are a few excerpts taken directly from the web
page of the Democratic Socialists of America. (Italicized emphasis provided)

"The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist
organization in the United States, and the principal U.S. affiliate of the
Socialist International. DSA's members are building progressive movements
for social change while establishing an openly socialist presence in
American communities and politics.

"At the root of our socialism is a profound commitment to democracy, as
means and end. We are activists committed not only to extending political
democracy but to demanding democratic empowerment in the economy, in gender
relations, and in culture. Democracy is not simply one of our political
values but our means of restructuring society. Our vision is of a society in
which people have a real voice in the choices and relationships that affect
the entirety of our lives. We call this vision democratic socialism - a
vision of a more free, democratic and humane society.

We are socialists because we reject an international economic order
sustained by private profit, alienated labor, race and gender
discrimination, environmental destruction, and brutality and violence in
defense of the status quo.
We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane international social
order based both on democratic planning and market mechanisms to achieve
equitable distribution of resources, meaningful work, a healthy environment,
sustainable growth, gender and racial equality, and non-oppressive
relationships."

Here is what "Liberty" looks like to a socialist:

"A democratic commitment to a vibrant pluralist life assumes the need for a
democratic, responsive, and representative government to regulate the
market, protect the environment, and ensure a basic level of equality and
equity for each citizen. In the 21st century, such regulation will
increasingly occur through international, multilateral action. But while a
democratic state can protect individuals from domination by inordinately
powerful, undemocratic transnational corporations, people develop the social
bonds that render life meaningful only through cooperative, voluntary
relationships. Promoting such bonds is the responsibility of socialists and
the government alike.

"The social welfare programs of government have been for the most part
positive, if partial, responses to the genuine social needs of the great
majority of Americans. The dismantling of such programs by conservative and
corporate elites in the absence of any alternatives will be disastrous.
Abandoning schools, health care, and housing, for example, to the control of
an unregulated free market magnifies the existing harsh realities of
inequality and injustice."

The action agenda posted on the socialists' web site very closely parallels
Agenda 21, and the recommendations of the President's Council on Sustainable
Development. The web site boasts the creation of the "Progressive Caucus" in
Congress, as well as the coalition that is working to promote the socialist
agenda in Congress.
Congressional Members of the
Progressive Caucus

Rep Earl Hilliard (AL-07)
Rep Eni Faleomavaega (AS-AL)
Rep Ed Pastor (AZ-02)
Rep Lynn C Woolsey (CA-06)
Rep George Miller (CA-07)
Rep Nancy Pelosi (CA-08)
Rep Fortney "Pete" Stark (CA-13)
Rep Henry A. Waxman (CA-29)
Rep Xavier Becerra (CA-30)
Rep Julian C. Dixon (CA-32)
Rep Esteban Edward Torres (CA-34)
Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Rep George E. Brown (CA-42)
Rep Bob Filner (CA-50)
Rep Diane DeGette (CO-01)
Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL)
Rep Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Rep Carrie P. Meek (FL-17)
Rep Alcee L. Hastings (FL-23)
Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04)
Rep John Lewis (GA-05)
Rep Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)
Rep Patsy Mink (HI-02)
Rep Jesse Jackson (IL-02)
Rep Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
Rep Danny Davis (IL-07)
Rep Lane Evans (IL-17)
Rep Julia Carson (IN-10)
Rep John Olver (MA-01)
Rep Jim McGovern (MA-03)
Rep Barney Frank (MA-04)
Rep John Tierney (MA-06)
Rep David Bonior (MI-10)
Rep Lynn N. Rivers (MI-13)
Rep John Conyers (MI-14)
Rep Bennie G. Thompson (MS-02)
Rep Melvin L. Watt (NC-12)
Rep Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Rep Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Rep Major Owens (NY-11)
Rep Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12)
Rep Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Rep Maurice Hinchey (NY-26)
Rep John LaFalce (NY-29)
Rep Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Rep Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Rep Louis Stokes (OH-11)
Rep Sherrod Brown (OH-13)
Rep Elizabeth Furse (OR-01)
Rep Peter A. DeFazio (OR-04)
Rep Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Rep William Coyne (PA-14)
Rep Carlos A. Romero-Barcelo (PR-AL)
Rep Robert C. Scott (VA-03)
Rep Bernard Sanders (VT-AL)
Rep James A. McDermott (WA-07)

Progressive Coalition supporting socialist agenda Americans for Democratic
Action
Campaign for America's Future

Campaign for New Priorities

Center for the Advancement of Public Policy

Center of Concern

Coalition on Human Needs

Demilitarization for Democracy

Development GAP

50 Years is Enough Network

Friends of the Earth

Fund for New Priorities in America

Institute for Policy Studies

Institute for Women's Policy Research

International Labor Rights Fund

National Jobs for All Coalition

National Organization for Women

National Priorities Project

NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby

Peace Action

Preamble Center for Public Policy

Public Citizen, email: Public Citizen

Stakeholders Alliance

United Electrical, Radio and Machine Workers of America

United for a Fair Economy

Washington Chapter Alliance for Democracy

Working Assets

Women, Law and Development

National Council of La Raza

The Campaign for Health Security

Leadership Conference on Civil Rights

Friends Committee on National Legislation

Center for Defense Information

Council for a Livable World
Citizens for Tax Justice
U.S. Campaign to Ban Landmines

Amnesty International

Human Rights Watch

Americans for a Sustainable Economy

National Education Association

USA Network for Habitat II

Catholic Charities

National Council of Negro Women

Center for Law and Social Policy

Witness for Peace

Children's Defense Fund

Child Welfare League

National Black Child Development Institute

Urban League

Economic Policy Institute

Brookings Institute

Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare

Defenders of Wildlife

Veterans for Peace

National Rainbow Coalition

AFL-CIO

U.S. Commission on Civil Rights

UNITE

Unitarian Universalist Service Committee

National Association of Public Hospitals

National Council of Senior Citizens

Long-Term Care Campaign

Consumer's Union

Center for Responsive Politics

Latin American Working Group

Public Campaign

This particular coalition consists of social organizations that work
hand-in-hand with other coalitions such as BIONET, CITNET, ECONET, PEACENET,
the Climate Action Network (CAN), and others. All are connected through
IGC-APC (Institute for Global Communications, and the Association of
Progressive Communications). Virtually all of these organizations, including
the Democratic Socialists of America, have web sites hosted by IGC-APC.

The policy gains that have been made in recent years on both the
international and domestic fronts are largely the result of the
communications capability of these organizations. Freedom.org was conceived
more than five years ago to provide similar communications capability to
organizations that are not socialists. The Property Rights Congress will be
pioneering that new capability. Non-socialist organizations are far behind,
and have much catching-up to do.

http://sovereignty.net/center/socialists.htm

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From: "Peter L. Sroufe" <deep...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:46:06 -0700
Subject: [prj] FW: [CTRL] Welcome to the 'Hotel California' (fwd)

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Subject: [CTRL] Welcome to the 'Hotel California' (fwd)

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Citation: The Nation Feb 20 1995, v260, n7, p229(5)
Author: Davis, Mike
Title: Hell factories in the field: a prison-industrial complex.
(Cover Story) by Mike Davis
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COPYRIGHT The Nation Company Inc. 1995
The road from Mecca follows the Southern Pacific tracks past Bombay Beach
to
Niland, then turns due south through a green maze of marshes and irrigated
fields. The bad future of California rises, with little melodrama, in the
middle distance between the skeleton of last year's cotton crop and the
aerial
bombing range in the Chocolate Mountains. From a mile away, the slate-gray
structures resemble warehouses or perhaps a factory. An unassuming road sign
announces Calipatria State Prison.
California has the third-largest penal system in the world, following
China
and the United States as a whole: 125,842 prisoners at last official count.
Over the past decade, the state has built Calipatria, located 220 miles
southeast of L.A., and fifteen other new prisons--at a cost of $10 billion
(interest included). An emergent "prison-industrial complex" increasingly
rivals agribusiness as the dominant force in the life of rural California
and
competes with land developers as the chief seducer of legislators in
Sacramento. It has become a monster that threatens to overpower and devour
its
creators, and its uncontrollable growth ought to rattle a national
consciousness now complacent at the thought of a permanent prison class.
Last year's state version of "three strikes" legislation--an even more
Draconian variant of Clinton's crime bill--may add as many as 300,000 new
inmates to an already grotesquely overcrowded and hyperviolent system. To
keep
even the most rudimentary shackles on this huge population, the state will
have to loot its higher education budget for dozens of new prisons. In
addition, there will be irresistible political pressures to reduce the cost
of
this human storage through a variety of technological and marketplace
innovations. In this regard, Calipatria, which opened in 1992, is a
particularly resonant example of how the Department of Corrections is
already
coping with the contradictions of its enormous success.
The Death Fence
Calipatria is a "level-4" maximum-security prison for men that currently
houses 10 percent (1,200), of California's convicted murderers. Yet the
guard
booth at the main gate is unmanned, as are ten of its twelve perimeter gun
towers. As Daniel Paramo, the prison's energetic "community resources
manager," explains: "The warden doesn't trust the human-error factor in the
gun towers; he puts his faith, instead, in Southern California Edison."
Paramo is standing in front of an ominous thirteen-foot electric fence,
sandwiched between two ordinary chain-link models. Each of the middle
fence's
fifteen individual strands of wire bristles with 5,000 volts, 500 amperes of
Parker Dam power--about ten times the recognized lethal dosage. The
electrical
contractors guarantee instant death. An admiring guard in the background
mutters: "Yeah, toast. . . ."
The bill authorizing this "escape-proof" fence sailed through the state
legislature with barely a murmur. Cost-conscious politicians had few
scruples
about an electric bill that saved $2 million in labor costs each year (a
total
of thirty sharpshooters, working three shifts per tower). And when the
warden
quietly threw the main switch in October 1993, there was general
satisfaction
that the corrections system was moving ahead toward its high-tech future.
"But," Paramo adds ruefully, "we had neglected to factor the animal-rights
people into the equation."
The prison is just east of the Salton Sea--a major wintering habitat for
waterfowl--and the gently purring high-voltage fence immediately became an
erotic beacon to the passing birds. Local bird-watchers soon found out about
the body count ("a gull, two owls, a finch and a scissor-tailed fly-catcher

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