Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

[Warhol]

Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

This video says it all....

http://youtu.be/wFiSiXO_6lg

Wow! That seriously gave me a chill up my spine~! !

Believe the official story. Repeat after me "a plane hit the
Pentagon."

Did you all notice that he also said there was a second plane coming
in ten minutes after the first one hit?

so blatantly obvious...

We live in a world where decisions of truth are made based on the
available facts, and not fantasy.

here's a tactic

ignore the shills, then they will shut up.

[Bast]

But wait, reporters on the scene didn't see any signs of a plane either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcWT2lQszEE


Of course the next day he claimed "he was taken out of context" <g>.....,
but that is just a coincidence, and in no way was told to deny deny
deny,...or DIE.

Just like in the George Orwell book 1984. 2 + 2 =,.....what the government
TELLS you the answer will be.

[george152]

On 28/04/13 07:50, Bast wrote:

>
>
> But wait, reporters on the scene didn't see any signs of a plane either.

They saw , heard and videoed the WTC Tower impacts.

[CUNTICA]

Jeez, things just keep falling out of the sky:


Parts of landing gear from 9/11 plane found wedged between luxury
flats and Ground Zero Islamic centre - ELEVEN years after terror
attacks on New York


9/11


Police have just found a sizable piece of one of the engines from a
plane that crashed into the World Trade Centre, more than 11 years
after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The piece of landing
gear was found wedged between two buildings just blocks from Ground
Zero- in between the buildings at 51 Park Place and 50 Murray Street
in downtown Manhattan.


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[Warhol]

On Apr 27, 9:50 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> Warhol wrote:
> > Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)
>
> > This video says it all....
>
> >http://youtu.be/wFiSiXO_6lg
>
> > Wow! That seriously gave me a chill up my spine~! !
>
> > Believe the official story. Repeat after me "a plane hit the
> > Pentagon."
>
> > Did you all notice that he also said there was a second plane coming
> > in ten minutes after the first one hit?
>
> > so blatantly obvious...
>
> > We live in a world where decisions of truth are made based on the
> > available facts, and not fantasy.
>
> > here's a tactic
>
> > ignore the shills, then they will shut up.
>

> But wait, reporters on the scene didn't see any signs of a plane either.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcWT2lQszEE

>
> Of course the next day he claimed "he was taken out of context" <g>.....,
> but that is just a coincidence, and in no way was told to deny deny
> deny,...or DIE.
>
> Just like in the George Orwell book 1984.  2 + 2 =,.....what the government
> TELLS you the answer will be.

It's amazing to me that this event was never investigated as a crime
nor was the crime scene ever investigated. The Pentagon called it an
act of war and swept away the evidence. The sheeple bought the
government backed yidstream media version. Nothing to see here
folks...move along.

It is actually strange how they call truthers truthers as an insult as
if searching for the truth is somehow wrong.
Of course the opposite to truthers is liars which apparently makes the
lie ok, strange how they twist deceit to appear acceptably. Social
conditioning at it's finest.

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Sat, Apr 27, 2013, 3:50pm From:
fake...@nomail.invalid (Bast)

=================

Since I can't access YouTube via this system, I'm going to assume one of
you is refering to the Jamie MacIntyre (CNN) report.

He was asked if a plane had LANDED ON THE PENTAGON LAWN. He answeed
(honestly) no- THE PLANE HAD IMPACTED THE BUILDING AND THE WRECKAGE WAS
INSIDE THE BUILDING.

--
"America is more than just a country. It's an idea."--

Bono--

[Bast]

Well of course you thought that,....you snipped out the (ACTUAL NEWS REPORT)
video link I supplied before you watched it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcWT2lQszEE

Now,.... THIS TIME DON'T PRETEND IT DOES NOT EXIST

[Brad Guth]

On Apr 27, 12:50 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> Warhol wrote:
> > Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)
>
> > This video says it all....
>
> >http://youtu.be/wFiSiXO_6lg
>
> > Wow! That seriously gave me a chill up my spine~! !
>
> > Believe the official story. Repeat after me "a plane hit the
> > Pentagon."
>
> > Did you all notice that he also said there was a second plane coming
> > in ten minutes after the first one hit?
>
> > so blatantly obvious...
>
> > We live in a world where decisions of truth are made based on the
> > available facts, and not fantasy.
>
> > here's a tactic
>
> > ignore the shills, then they will shut up.
>

> But wait, reporters on the scene didn't see any signs of a plane either.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcWT2lQszEE

>
> Of course the next day he claimed "he was taken out of context" <g>.....,
> but that is just a coincidence, and in no way was told to deny deny
> deny,...or DIE.
>
> Just like in the George Orwell book 1984.  2 + 2 =,.....what the government
> TELLS you the answer will be.

“whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell

[joeturn]

They missed it for twelve years then poof it appears out of nowhere!

[Government Shill #2]

No.

Poof! It appears between two buildings, where people don't normally go.

Shill #2
--
slowjoe's theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo

[Bast]

Riiiigghhht.
Blown blocks away, and it even had a label on it saying "this plane part was
from the WTC demolition"
And it even wedged itself without even scratching either wall on each
side,.....without either building falling due to pancake floor collapse.


I can't believe people could be stupid enough to swallow this story.
But if you do,....PULL MY FINGER

[Warhol]

What kind of question is that?

brad... I control the past... so... are you gone surrender?

Sometimes the doom is so unbelievable that its unbelievable... Many
seem to get discouraged about how doom hasnt happened yet(while in
reality we are in doom). If you are some one who knows that "doom"
will come before the Son of Man new kingdom is set up then i
understand the excitement. But if you are just bored and want some
action then quite frankly you dont know whats coming and likely wont
make it through. As in the days of Noah, no body except Noah
(representaive of those close to Messenger) and his family knew what
was coming. It hit most of the world from out of know where so to
speak.

He will come as a thief and I mean it's going to be maddening. An
asteroid hitting the earth and knocking it off course and the whole
world fighting to survive.

Biblically, this is going to be a nightmare for those whose name is
not found in the book of life.

It's f-cked up people want to live through it.

There is no living through it.

Most of you are going to die, in a sense.

Get get secure in the arc guys!

All the world woke up that day not expecting the torrent of floods.

Get get secure in the arc guys!

All the world woke up that day not expecting the torrent of floods.

http://youtu.be/0n-skTBp_q4

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013, 1:42am From:
fake...@nomail.invalid (Bast)

==================

Sorry, I don't know where the finger has been.

It's a lot more plausible than any of the kOOker theories. I've seen
stranger things.

[BDK]

In article <klicm2$hk0$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...

But you follow many stores that are totally ridiculous to normal people,
just look at your favorite troofer page. Lots of incredibly dopey stuff
there, and yet you swallow every bit of it. Finding plane parts stuck in
between buildings isn't a stretch by any sane means, compared to
anything on a troofer page.

--
BDK- Head FUD-Master Blaster. Friend to all kOOkbashers.

[BDK]

In article <klhire$j4s$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...

What about it? He's saying there's no large plane parts on the outside
of the pentagon. Are you so deranged you can't understand that the
report has nothing that claims a plane didn't hit the pentagon?

Sadly for you, but great for us kookwatchers, you ARE that deranged.

[Jorge]

In article <klicm2$hk0$1...@dont-email.me>,

Well, it's amazing how many "bought" the Pentagon fairy tale.
and it happened about 45 minutes after the towers were controlled
demolished. Some defense system , eh?
--
Karma ; what a concept!

[Bast]

PHRZZZZZAPHH - You pulled my finger

[Bast]

Watch it AGAIN,.....clearly says "no sign of a plane crashing here"

But I give you brownie points for, still maintaining "facts" that you make
up as you go along.
That's the problem with the "official fairytale",....it keeps getting
re-written.


Pancake theory <giggle>....Maybe Mrs. Butterworth or Aunt Jemima is an
Al-quieda operative.

[george152]

On 28/04/13 17:42, Bast wrote:


>
> Riiiigghhht.
> Blown blocks away, and it even had a label on it saying "this plane part was
> from the WTC demolition"
> And it even wedged itself without even scratching either wall on each
> side,.....without either building falling due to pancake floor collapse.
>

Desperation is what I see in this message.

[Bast]

Really ?
What has has the truth movement got to be desperate about ?
....Oh ya,....too many people joining, to keep track of.

Actually I intended to show how silly this whole "we found a piece of plane"
conspiracy-fairytale is.

[george152]

On 29/04/13 11:27, Bast wrote:
> george152 wrote:
>> On 28/04/13 17:42, Bast wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Riiiigghhht.
>>> Blown blocks away, and it even had a label on it saying "this plane
>>> part was from the WTC demolition"
>>> And it even wedged itself without even scratching either wall on each
>>> side,.....without either building falling due to pancake floor
>>> collapse.
>> Desperation is what I see in this message.
>
>
>
> Really ?
> What has has the truth movement got to be desperate about ?
> ....Oh ya,....too many people joining, to keep track of.
>

Riiiight.
Some-one hasn't had a lot to do with Statistics.
0 is NOT 'too many people joining'

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013, 3:56pm From:
fake...@nomail.invalid (Bast)

==================

I don't have the time of the patience to post the entire Judy Woodruff-
Jamie McIntyre transcript. This from JM will have to do:

"There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like
that anywhere around, WHICH WOULD INDICATE THAT THE ENTIRE PLANE CRASHED
INTO THE SIDE OF THE PENTAGON AND THEN CAUSED THE SIDE TO COLLAPSE."

Your apology is awaited.

[BDK]

In article <klju8s$8gh$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...

That sound was your brain trying to escape the prison that is up your
ass. Sadly, it failed and now is even more damaged then it was when it
was shoved all the way in.

[BDK]

In article <klkb30$i86$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...

>
> george152 wrote:
> > On 28/04/13 17:42, Bast wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Riiiigghhht.
> >> Blown blocks away, and it even had a label on it saying "this plane
> >> part was from the WTC demolition"
> >> And it even wedged itself without even scratching either wall on each
> >> side,.....without either building falling due to pancake floor
> >> collapse.
> > Desperation is what I see in this message.
>
>
>
> Really ?
> What has has the truth movement got to be desperate about ?

Desperate to be taken seiously by anyone outside the movement? You know,
with people who have a clue?

> ....Oh ya,....too many people joining, to keep track of.

BWHAHAHAHA!

>
> Actually I intended to show how silly this whole "we found a piece of plane"
> conspiracy-fairytale is.

You failed, but you did dhow how desperate, and stupid, you are.

[Jorge]

In article <klju8s$8gh$1...@dont-email.me>,

the operant word here is "Blown" blocks away. suggests some explosion (s)
How could Osama rig all those explosives.
WTC obviously controlled demolition. Who knew? Who "benefitted"?

[Brad Guth]

On Apr 29, 8:35 am, "Jorge" <georgew...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <klju8s$8g...@dont-email.me>,

>
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>  "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> > BDK wrote:

> > > In article <klicm2$hk...@dont-email.me>, faken...@nomail.invalid says...

Follow the money.

How otherwise would you cover as many ZNR/GOP mafia/oligarch butts as
possible, and convince our republic to keep supporting and paying
through the nose for our military industrial complex?

[Bast]

Careful.
Pointing out that this story does not "fit" the official 9/11 fairytale,
will make them have to re-write history again.
Of course the shills like BDK, will fall back on dis-creditation based on
totally different issues, in a feeble knee-jerk attempt to somehow
rationalize this.

9/11 WAS an inside job,....that is far from being swept under the rug.

[joeturn]

On Apr 28, 1:04 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  slowjoe's themehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo- Hide quoted text -
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So what happened to the other debris from the tower,how come nothing
else ended up between them buildings.What direction did it have to
take from the Twin Tower to find that hidden place?

Could super Willie Rodriguez have caught it and placed it there during
his many flights back and forth saving the fema drill people?

THERE WERE NO PLANES only planted parts from wrecked planes that were
identified as not being from a highjacked commercial airliner.

The EXPLANS are falling apart.for instance here is OUR FATHER WHO art
in Heaven.

http://www.wellaware1.com/artwork/large/petetownshend.jpg

[Bast]

Ahhh yes,...the hurled random insults, .....when you are stumped and caught
in the lies, and have nothing else to say.

That this story about things being hurled blocks away, does not support the
official 9/11 fairytale pancake theory, but DOES support the "kook"
controlled demolition argument, is something your masters should have
thought through a bit better.

[joeturn]

On Apr 29, 12:44 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> BDK wrote:

> > In article <klkb30$i8...@dont-email.me>, faken...@nomail.invalid says...

> thought through a bit better.- Hide quoted text -

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They were getting caught up in their lies and had to renew the belief
of planes else War Crimes would get all involved prosicuted.Im sure
NIST will make a new FOIA release that shows the wedgie,they will
claim it was overlooked.They are getting deperate now that the whole
world is on elert of their WAR MONGARING.

[Brad Guth]

Perhaps the WTC structures were made of thin low-alloy steel, hollowed
out and filled with straw and foam where the impacts occurred, and
thereby hardly worth slowing anything down.

Each floor probably only represented a thousand tonnes worth of added
decor, people, furnishings, various live systems of plumbing,
electrical and HVAC along with a substantial battery of computer
related equipment, racks of large capacity file cabinets, multiple
safes and most every cubic inch stuffed full of publications,
documents and you name it. No doubt there had also been multiple
uncertified holes cut through each floor in order to suit each and
every client, so obviously there wasn't all that much mass or building
integrity in the pathway of those thin aluminum shelled aircraft.

[Brad Guth]

On Apr 29, 9:38 am, joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 1:04 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 21:59:48 -0700 (PDT), joeturn <joeturn2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >On Apr 27, 4:37 pm, CUNTICA <brianlambsn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> Jeez, things just keep falling out of the sky:
>
> > >> Parts of landing gear from 9/11 plane found wedged between luxury
> > >>  flats and Ground Zero Islamic centre - ELEVEN years after terror
> > >>  attacks on New York
>
> > >> 9/11
>
> > >> Police have just found a sizable piece of one of the engines from a
> > >>  plane that crashed into the World Trade Centre, more than 11 years
> > >>  after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The piece of landing
> > >>  gear was found wedged between two buildings just blocks from Ground
> > >>  Zero- in between the buildings at 51 Park Place and 50 Murray Street
> > >>  in downtown Manhattan.
>
> > >> Comments (280)
> > >>  Videos
> > >>   Share
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> > >They missed it for twelve years then poof it appears out of nowhere!
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> > No.
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> > Poof! It appears between two buildings, where people don't normally go.
>
> > Shill #2
> > --

> >  slowjoe's themehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo-Hide quoted text -

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> > - Show quoted text -
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> So what happened to the other debris from the tower,how come nothing
> else ended up between them buildings.What direction did it have to
> take from the Twin Tower to find that hidden place?
>
> Could super Willie Rodriguez have caught it and placed it there during
> his many flights back and forth saving the fema drill people?
>
> THERE WERE NO PLANES only planted parts from wrecked planes that were
> identified as not being from a highjacked commercial airliner.
>
> The EXPLANS are falling apart.for instance here is OUR FATHER WHO art
> in Heaven.
>
> http://www.wellaware1.com/artwork/large/petetownshend.jpg

Perhaps the WTC structures were made of thin low-alloy steel, hollowed
out and filled with straw and foam where the impacts occurred, and

thereby hardly worth slowing anything down and thus incapable of
absorbing impact energy.

Each floor probably only represented a thousand tonnes worth of added

(nonstructural) decor, people, furnishings, various live systems of
plumbing,electrical and HVAC along with a substantial battery of

computer related equipment, racks of large capacity file cabinets,
multiple safes and most every cubic inch stuffed full of publications,
documents and you name it. No doubt there had also been multiple
uncertified holes cut through each floor in order to suit each and
every client, so obviously there wasn't all that much mass or building
integrity in the pathway of those thin aluminum shelled aircraft.

I'm not saying there were not a couple of aircraft, because something
very aircraft like impacted each structure at roughly 500 mph, and
those could have been 767s or sufficient lookalikes.

[Zulu]

El 27/04/2013 23:19, Warhol escribi�:

> On Apr 27, 9:50 pm, "Bast"<faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>> Warhol wrote:

>>> Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)
>>

>>> This video says it all....
>>
>>> http://youtu.be/wFiSiXO_6lg
>>
>>> Wow! That seriously gave me a chill up my spine~! !
>>
>>> Believe the official story. Repeat after me "a plane hit the
>>> Pentagon."
>>
>>> Did you all notice that he also said there was a second plane coming
>>> in ten minutes after the first one hit?
>>
>>> so blatantly obvious...
>>
>>> We live in a world where decisions of truth are made based on the
>>> available facts, and not fantasy.
>>
>>> here's a tactic
>>
>>> ignore the shills, then they will shut up.
>>
>> But wait, reporters on the scene didn't see any signs of a plane either.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcWT2lQszEE
>>
>> Of course the next day he claimed "he was taken out of context"<g>.....,
>> but that is just a coincidence, and in no way was told to deny deny
>> deny,...or DIE.
>>
>> Just like in the George Orwell book 1984. 2 + 2 =,.....what the government
>> TELLS you the answer will be.
>
>
>
>

> It's amazing to me that this event was never investigated as a crime
> nor was the crime scene ever investigated. The Pentagon called it an
> act of war and swept away the evidence. The sheeple bought the
> government backed yidstream media version. Nothing to see here
> folks...move along.

Who is actually the guy that ordered the quick removing of the rubbles from the crime
scene?
Isn't it a CRIME?

> It is actually strange how they call truthers truthers as an insult as
> if searching for the truth is somehow wrong.
> Of course the opposite to truthers is liars which apparently makes the
> lie ok, strange how they twist deceit to appear acceptably. Social
> conditioning at it's finest.

Which percentage of US taxpayers are actually AGAINST a new AND independent inquiry
about 911?

[joeturn]

On Apr 29, 3:00 pm, Zulu <""zulu\"@guantanamo-beach.CIA's resort.org">
wrote:

> about 911?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

The 10 percent of the Government is all it takes to deny indepentent
access to the evidence.without approval from the feds the NIST fairy
tale will have to go unchalenged.Our POTUS OSAMA has already denied
approval now how many representatives is needed to overturn his denal?

[george152]

On 30/04/13 03:35, Jorge wrote:

>
> the operant word here is "Blown" blocks away. suggests some explosion (s)
> How could Osama rig all those explosives.
> WTC obviously controlled demolition. Who knew? Who "benefitted"?
>

No explosion just heavy parts of the aircraft getting ejected at high
speed from the impact site.

[Brad Guth]

But why would you even bother to read or much less respond to this or
similar topics is perhaps even a greater mystery?

Can you afford to disclose where you get your money from?

[BDK]

In article <klm7ri$ftq$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...

>
> BDK wrote:
> > In article <klkb30$i86$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...
> >>
> >> george152 wrote:
> >>> On 28/04/13 17:42, Bast wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Riiiigghhht.
> >>>> Blown blocks away, and it even had a label on it saying "this plane
> >>>> part was from the WTC demolition"
> >>>> And it even wedged itself without even scratching either wall on each
> >>>> side,.....without either building falling due to pancake floor
> >>>> collapse.
> >>> Desperation is what I see in this message.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Really ?
> >> What has has the truth movement got to be desperate about ?
> >
> > Desperate to be taken seiously by anyone outside the movement? You know,
> > with people who have a clue?
> >
> >> ....Oh ya,....too many people joining, to keep track of.
> >
> > BWHAHAHAHA!
> >
> >>
> >> Actually I intended to show how silly this whole "we found a piece of
> >> plane" conspiracy-fairytale is.
> >
> > You failed, but you did dhow how desperate, and stupid, you are.
>
>
>
> Ahhh yes,...the hurled random insults, .....when you are stumped and caught
> in the lies, and have nothing else to say.

They aren't random, idiot, they are 100% factual observations of you and
many other whackaloons.

>
> That this story about things being hurled blocks away, does not support the
> official 9/11 fairytale pancake theory, but DOES support the "kook"
> controlled demolition argument, is something your masters should have
> thought through a bit better.

No, it DOES support the widely accepted theory, and trashes, as if they
needed it, troofer kOOk claims. You losers are just too stupid to take
seriously, bith as individuals, and as a group. Your sole useful purpose
is to generate laughs. You excel at that.

[BDK]

In article <klm7g6$dlq$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...

Feeble is what you troofers are. Your claims about 911 are beyond
stupid.

>
> 9/11 WAS an inside job,....that is far from being swept under the rug.

You should be swept into a padded cell.

[BDK]

In article <374c50ca-9220-4cbe-b585-
080893...@l5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...

I get it from rent, I'm a landlord, and my job in the ISP industry.

Where do you get yours from, Brad? SSI would be my guess.

[Bast]

No Explosion ? So they ejected by ???? The hand of God perhaps ?
.....You better not try blaming him for 9/11.

[Government Shill #2]

Momentum.

Landing gear parts are made from steel. Big bits of steel in the case of Boeing airliners.

Big bits of steel travelling at 500mph have huge amounts of momentum.

Not a hard concept to grasp.

[george152]

It's called a wage. To you that would be an unattainable goal but its
what you get when you're employable and employed..

[george152]

Inertia. That force that keeps your fat arse glued to your chair.
There were no explosions.

[Brad Guth]

george152 has to go by his ZNR approved script, or else those MIB/MI6
will have to kill him.

[Bast]

Gee,....I guess since YOU WERE NOT THERE,....your word is worth more than
these people who were there.
.....Or the video evidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URpC6C3FRbk

[1treePetrifiedForestLane]

pancake theory is useless;
see the Head Welder at MIT's report, October 2001. as for
"stuff flying anyway but staight down,"
what would you expect from such a chaotic, catastrophics collapse?

skyscrapers are very iffy structures, dynamically, although
they are at least built to take the windload. although
the architect may have said that it could take the *impace*
of a 757 at about teh speed of sound,
that is no warranty, and does not include the fuel
for the flight to LA.

> That this story about things being hurled blocks away, does not support the
> official 9/11 fairytale pancake theory,

thus:
Al Gore's movie, Al, himself, uses this tern
of endearmant; as for Pfloyd,
could be a metaphor viz the Wiz of Oz soundtrack.

> Polar craters that are always in shadow.
> Hardly what is meant by the phrase "dark side of the moon".

thus:
if your "theory" is that the bombs were inadequate planes,
you have a bit of flightschool to do, yet.

thus:
time is simply not a dimension,
no matter some diagrammatic representation;
it is awareness *of* dimensionality; if
one has no awareness of Universe, one cannot do any
of the God-am *mathematica* (any
of the four subjects, or quadrivium, including
Gauss's "queen of the sciences").

spacetime is nothing but quaternions,
as shown by Einstien's assistant, Lanczos,
in _Variational Mechanics_ from Dover,
a vast treatise on configuration spaces.

[george152]

Posting untruths again are you

[george152]

WTF are you smoking ?

[Brad Guth]

Right, you brown-nosed minions wouldn't understand, nor allowed to
figure out anything for yourself.

[Government Shill #2]

You're using logic and so.. "YOU WERE NOT THERE" is the only comeback the kOOker has.

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 11:10am (EDT-3) From:
brad...@gmail.com (Brad Guth)

=================

From your droolings, it's clear you have no clue as to the "tube in a
tube" design of the Towers.

--
"America is more than just a country. It's an idea."--

Bono--

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 6:50pm From:
fake...@nomail.invalid (Bast)

==================

You can NOT be that stupid!

The landing gear are LARGE and MASSIVE.

The airliner was flying at 500 knots.

Now look up MOMENTUM. And Newton's Laws of Motion while you're at it.

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 9:00pm (EDT+6) From:
""zulu\"@guantanamo-beach.CIA's resort.org"> (Zulu)

================

Most of them.

THREE independent investigations:\
NIST
FEMA
9/11 Commission

But no one's stopping you. Go ahead and do your own.

Get cracking, boy! Times a'wastin'!

[Bast]

You a bit worried about people SEEING the video ?, that you obviously
snipped out of my reply

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URpC6C3FRbk

Let them judge for themselves

[george152]

Yup. She's not the sharpest knife in the drawer

[george152]

That you're a liar? Its one of those self evident truths...
12 years and no conspiracy kook has come up with evidence that otherwise
explains 911

[Tony Dragon]

My irony meter just went into overload.

[Brad Guth]

Oddly, none of the top half floors of WTC-7 had initially pancaked,
perhaps because of the lower undamaged flowers that had suddenly and
uniformly given way only after those sequential internal explosions
had first taken place. Go figure

[HVAC]

On 4/29/2013 6:46 PM, BDK wrote:
>
>> But why would you even bother to read or much less respond to this or
>> similar topics is perhaps even a greater mystery?
>>
>> Can you afford to disclose where you get your money from?
>
> I get it from rent, I'm a landlord, and my job in the ISP industry.
>
> Where do you get yours from, Brad? SSI would be my guess.

It's confirmed. Brad Goth gets disability payments from Social Security
because he's crazy.


--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

[BDK]

In article <a0eeff49-7f31-431b...@googlegroups.com>,
gov....@gmail.com says...

Unless you're a troofer, and all kings of magical stuff can happen, yet
everyday things are "impossible!".

[BDK]

In article <e57bcd85-de8b-459b-b2ae-
14c232...@z8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...

He's just wondering what has made you so batshit crazy Brad. It's a
perfectly reasonable question.

[BDK]

In article <KaidnV7NLa2f1eLM...@giganews.com>,
gbl...@hnpl.net says...

She's not even allowed to be in same room with sharp objects.

[BDK]

In article <e83628b7-76f0-4a5c-b529-
eca3a0...@y12g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, brad...@gmail.com says...

Interesting claim, but totally incorrect, as your claims always are. And
a bit silly too.

[joeturn]

On Apr 30, 11:54 am, BDK <Cont...@Worldcontrol.com> wrote:
> In article <KaidnV7NLa2f1eLMnZ2dnUVZ_qCdn...@giganews.com>,

> BDK- Head FUD-Master Blaster. Friend to all kOOkbashers.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

This is why you could never be threat.You are not sharp at all!

[BDK]

In article <klofiq$igf$1...@dont-email.me>, harlowc...@gmail.com
says...

>
> On 4/29/2013 6:46 PM, BDK wrote:
> >
> >> But why would you even bother to read or much less respond to this or
> >> similar topics is perhaps even a greater mystery?
> >>
> >> Can you afford to disclose where you get your money from?
> >
> > I get it from rent, I'm a landlord, and my job in the ISP industry.
> >
> > Where do you get yours from, Brad? SSI would be my guess.
>
> It's confirmed. Brad Goth gets disability payments from Social Security
> because he's crazy.

Well, that explains a lot then.

[george152]

When I see basts name I turn mine off. Just not worth the hassle of
rebuilding it

[george152]

slowjoe inserts foot in mouth

[Government Shill #2]

And this "Bast" seems to be a particularly rabid troofer.

Shill #2
--
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
theobviousgcashman

[Bast]

I've given you links to check, videos to watch, questions to ask.
But if you insist that you have already made up your own mind, and do not
want to get confused by the actual facts,....not much I can do.

[1treePetrifiedForestLane]

if the bombs were inadequate planes:
they would never have gotten off of the ground, because
the vast majority of problems occur at landing and
at take-offf;
all that they (whosoever) had to do, was
to steer the plane with the steering thingy,
into one or another of Eaaarth's tallest buildings, or
into a large pentagonal bunker.

> up your own mind,

[Brad Guth]

We're told that messengers with bad news for Hitler were killed.
Perhaps the same analogy applies here, because we know that anyone
opposing GW Bush and Dick Cheney were in grave danger of getting
kicked out, or having committed suicide. I'm certain that "Skull and
Bones" has forensic-proof ways of dealing with any problematic
members.

[Brad Guth]

On Apr 30, 5:57 pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane <Space...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Each of the 9-11 targets were well within modern autopilot capability.

[joeturn]

On Apr 29, 11:38 pm, ogro...@webtv.net (Padraigh ProAmerica) wrote:
> Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)
>
> Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Mon, Apr 29, 2013, 6:50pm From:

> faken...@nomail.invalid (Bast)george152 wrote:
>
> On 30/04/13 03:35, Jorge wrote:
> the operant word here is "Blown" blocks away. suggests some explosion
> (s) How could Osama rig all those explosives. WTC obviously controlled
> demolition. Who knew? Who "benefitted"?
> No explosion just heavy parts of the aircraft getting ejected at high
> speed from the impact site.
> No Explosion ? So they ejected by ????   The hand of God perhaps ?
> ....You better not try blaming him for 9/11.
>
> ==================
>
> You can NOT be that stupid!
>
> The landing gear are LARGE and MASSIVE.
>
> The airliner was flying at 500 knots.
>
> Now look up MOMENTUM. And Newton's Laws of Motion while you're at it.
>
> --
> "America is more than just a country. It's an idea."--
>
>  Bono--

While your looking up Newton look at his 2060 prediction.

[edrh...@hotmail.com]

>
> While your looking up Newton look at his 2060 prediction.

Problem being, his laws of motion have been tested and verified by scientists over the course of centuries. This prediction in completely unverifiable.

[george152]

No.
Stop pretending that you actually know something

[BDK]

In article <6md0o8ps27um46qis...@4ax.com>,
gov....@gmail.com says...

I wonder if she drools or foams at this point?

[BDK]

In article <ENadnTHM8dHrDh3M...@giganews.com>,
gbl...@hnpl.net says...

He should, because he does a very bad job of it, like of like Professor
Irwin Corey, "The world's foremost authority!". Brad can spout all kinds
of meaninless babble, just like Corey, but it makes even less sense.

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Tue, Apr 30, 2013, 6:10pm (EDT-3) From:
brad...@gmail.com (Brad Guth)

==================

And this is a prime example of why we call drugs "dope".

[dmaster]

On Monday, April 29, 2013 11:44:39 AM UTC-5, Bast wrote:
...
> That this story about things being hurled blocks away, does not support the
> official 9/11 fairytale pancake theory, but DOES support the "kook"
> controlled demolition argument, is something your masters should have
> thought through a bit better.

Are you being purposely obtuse? What part of "struck by an airplane flying at 500 miles per hour" doesn't fit with "things being hurled blocks away"?

Seriously, the blinder mentality of looking at only the part of the story you want to look at is sheer nonsense. More examples:

"The building wouldn't have fallen from just an airplane impact." Ignores the fires.
"WTC7 wasn't even hit by an airplane." Ignores the damage from falling debris and the fire.

Do you really accept this kind of intellectually dishonest arguments?

Dan (Woj...)

[dmaster]

On Monday, April 29, 2013 2:00:18 PM UTC-5, Zulu wrote:
...
> Which percentage of US taxpayers are actually AGAINST a new AND independent inquiry
> about 911?

Probably about zero. So, go get started. Just don't ask me to pay for your nonsense.

Dan (Woj...)

[dmaster]

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:11:58 AM UTC-5, Brad Guth wrote:
...

> Oddly, none of the top half floors of WTC-7 had initially pancaked,
> perhaps because of the lower undamaged flowers that had suddenly and
> uniformly given way only after those sequential internal explosions
> had first taken place. Go figure

I really thought you pretended to be "smart" and "scientific". Why are you being purposely obtuse here? Unlike WTC 1 and 2, where the point of damage was within a couple dozen floors of the top, WTC had it's most significant damage down below floor 20 where the fires were burning unchecked. Why would you expect the collapse to occur at a point different than the point of damage?

WTC 1 and 2 collapsed when the structure above the damage crashed into the structure below the damage. That was up near the top. WTC 7 collapsed when the structure above the damage - floor 20 up to the top - crashed into the structure below the damage.

Seriously, if you are going to make an argument, how about making a coherent one that addresses the facts, rather than something that smacks of intellectual dishonesty.

Dan (Woj...)

[george152]

On 01/05/13 19:05, BDK wrote:

> He should, because he does a very bad job of it, like of like Professor
> Irwin Corey, "The world's foremost authority!". Brad can spout all kinds
> of meaninless babble, just like Corey, but it makes even less sense.
>

ANd take up every conspiracy cause without actually questioning the claims

[BDK]

In article <-_-dnbcH-rax6BzMn...@giganews.com>,
gbl...@hnpl.net says...

Kind of like Lookey and the 666/mark of the beast kOOks. He swallows it
all.

[Brad Guth]

On Apr 28, 4:03 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 1:10 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 12:50 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>
> > > Warhol wrote:
> > > > Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldn't believe it was a Plane)
>

> > > > This video says it all....
>
> > > >http://youtu.be/wFiSiXO_6lg
>
> > > > Wow! That seriously gave me a chill up my spine~! !
>
> > > > Believe the official story. Repeat after me "a plane hit the
> > > > Pentagon."
>
> > > > Did you all notice that he also said there was a second plane coming
> > > > in ten minutes after the first one hit?
>
> > > > so blatantly obvious...
>
> > > > We live in a world where decisions of truth are made based on the
> > > > available facts, and not fantasy.
>
> > > > here's a tactic
>
> > > > ignore the shills, then they will shut up.
>
> > > But wait, reporters on the scene didn't see any signs of a plane either.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcWT2lQszEE
>
> > > Of course the next day he claimed "he was taken out of context" <g>.....,
> > > but that is just a coincidence, and in no way was told to deny deny
> > > deny,...or DIE.
>
> > > Just like in the George Orwell book 1984.  2 + 2 =,.....what the government
> > > TELLS you the answer will be.
>
> > “whoever controls the past, controls the future” / George Orwell
>
> What kind of question is that?
>
> brad... I control the past... so... are you gone surrender?
>
> Sometimes the doom is so unbelievable that its unbelievable... Many
> seem to get discouraged about how doom hasnt happened yet(while in
> reality we are in doom). If you are some one who knows that "doom"
> will come before the Son of Man new kingdom is set up then i
> understand the excitement. But if you are just bored and want some
> action then quite frankly you dont know whats coming and likely wont
> make it through. As in the days of Noah, no body except Noah
> (representaive of those close to Messenger) and his family knew what
> was coming. It hit most of the world from out of know where so to
> speak.
>
> He will come as a thief and I mean it's going to be maddening. An
> asteroid hitting the earth and knocking it off course and the whole
> world fighting to survive.
>
> Biblically, this is going to be a nightmare for those whose name is
> not found in the book of life.
>
> It's f-cked up people want to live through it.
>
> There is no living through it.
>
> Most of you are going to die, in a sense.
>
> Get get secure in the arc guys!
>
> All the world woke up that day not expecting the torrent of floods.
>
> Get get secure in the arc guys!
>
> All the world woke up that day not expecting the torrent of floods.
>
> http://youtu.be/0n-skTBp_q4

With only selective evidence allowed, you get the kind of results they
paid for.

Controlling the past (aka recorded history) is the one and only key to
the future.

[Bast]

BDK wrote:
> In article <-_-dnbcH-rax6BzMn...@giganews.com>,
> gbl...@hnpl.net says...
>>
>> On 01/05/13 19:05, BDK wrote:
>>
>>> He should, because he does a very bad job of it, like of like
>>> Professor Irwin Corey, "The world's foremost authority!". Brad can
>>> spout all kinds of meaninless babble, just like Corey, but it makes
>>> even less sense.
>>>
>> ANd take up every conspiracy cause without actually questioning the
>> claims
>
> Kind of like Lookey and the 666/mark of the beast kOOks. He swallows it
> all.

Are you two having fun ?
Good,.....we want the lurkers to see that you do.

[HVAC]

On 5/1/2013 7:51 PM, Bast wrote:
>
>>>> He should, because he does a very bad job of it, like of like
>>>> Professor Irwin Corey, "The world's foremost authority!". Brad can
>>>> spout all kinds of meaninless babble, just like Corey, but it makes
>>>> even less sense.
>>>>
>>> ANd take up every conspiracy cause without actually questioning the
>>> claims
>>
>> Kind of like Lookey and the 666/mark of the beast kOOks. He swallows it
>> all.
>
>
>
> Are you two having fun ?
> Good,.....we want the lurkers to see that you do.

LOL! Blast thinks there is a vast army of his supporters who are with
him, yet aren't talking. This idea of his is very typical of paranoid kooks.


--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: (Couldn't believe it was a Plane, impacting a massive concrete
thingy.)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Thu, May 2, 2013, 6:49am From:
harlowc...@gmail.com (HVAC)

On 5/1/2013 7:51 PM, Bast wrote:
He should, because he does a very bad job of it, like of like Professor
Irwin Corey, "The world's foremost authority!". Brad can spout all kinds
of meaninless babble, just like Corey, but it makes even less sense.
ANd take up every conspiracy cause without actually questioning the
claims
Kind of like Lookey and the 666/mark of the beast kOOks. He swallows it
all.
Are you two having fun ?
Good,.....we want the lurkers to see that you do.
LOL! Blast thinks there is a vast army of his supporters who are with
him, yet aren't talking. This idea of his is very typical of paranoid
kooks.

==================

If there are any lurkers, the intelligent and sane majority have
probably killfiled the loons like Blast, Guthbag and slowjoe.

--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo

[BDK]

In article <kls9kj$kdr$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...

Why do yuo think we are here? Oh right, you think we get paid!

BWHAHAHAHA! You poor kOOktard.

> Good,.....we want the lurkers to see that you do.

We want the lurkers to talk to an engineer, a real expert, not
kOOkpages, and learn the stupidity of troofery.

[Bast]

Right. I'm sure people with degrees/accreditations and working daily as
professionals and associated this site, will answer their questions.

Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth.
http://www.ae911truth.org


Or they can take your advice, and ask politicans/government employees who
haven't worked in the real word for most of their lives, or dweeb
journalists from community college 6 month mail order courses.

[Brad Guth]

On May 2, 10:10 am, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> BDK wrote:
> > In article <kls9kj$kd...@dont-email.me>, faken...@nomail.invalid says...
>
> >> BDK wrote:
> >>> In article <-_-dnbcH-rax6BzMnZ2dnUVZ_qGdn...@giganews.com>,

> >>> gbl...@hnpl.net says...
>
> >>>> On 01/05/13 19:05, BDK wrote:
>
> >>>>> He should, because he does a very bad job of it, like of like
> >>>>> Professor Irwin Corey, "The world's foremost authority!". Brad can
> >>>>> spout all kinds of meaninless babble, just like Corey, but it makes
> >>>>> even less sense.
>
> >>>> ANd take up every conspiracy cause without actually questioning the
> >>>> claims
>
> >>> Kind of like Lookey and the 666/mark of the beast kOOks. He swallows
> >>> it all.
>
> >> Are you two having fun ?
>
> > Why do yuo think we are here? Oh right, you think we get paid!
>
> > BWHAHAHAHA! You poor kOOktard.
>
> >> Good,.....we want the lurkers to see that you do.
>
> > We want the lurkers to talk to an engineer, a real expert, not
> > kOOkpages, and learn the stupidity of troofery.
>
> Right. I'm sure people with degrees/accreditations and working daily as
> professionals and associated this site, will answer their questions.
>

> Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth.http://www.ae911truth.org

>
> Or they can take your advice, and ask politicans/government employees who
> haven't worked in the real word for most of their lives, or dweeb
> journalists from community college 6 month mail order courses.

Is there any difference between BDK and the likes of Art Deco?

If Hitler or any of his ZNR SS Nazis were posting topics and replies
as BDK, would there be any difference in their logic?

[george152]

On 03/05/13 05:10, Bast wrote:

> Right. I'm sure people with degrees/accreditations and working daily as
> professionals and associated this site, will answer their questions.
>
> Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth.
> http://www.ae911truth.org
>

You -do- know that most of those on that web site are not what they
claim and at most there are 1200 ...
In the real world however there are hundreds of thousands of real
architects who design tall buildings and hundreds of thousands of
Engineers who build those tall buildings.
They find little fault with the three main 911 reports on the building
collapses so much so that the events of 911 are part of the building
engineering syllabus.

[Bast]

I'd say BDK, and the other winged monkey minions, can be most easily
compared to "Tokyo Rose" of WW-II infamy, for spreading maliciously bogus
truths/misinformation.

The telltale sign is always,.... not to believe anyone or anything you see,
and base your own judgement on the facts
e.g.
http://www.ae911truth.org , or countless reams of eyewitness video
testimony, on YouTube or other sources.

But only, WHAT YOU ARE TOLD TO BELIEVE.

[Brad Guth]

> e.g.http://www.ae911truth.org, or countless reams of eyewitness video

> testimony, on YouTube or other sources.
>
> But only, WHAT YOU ARE TOLD TO BELIEVE.

The official clowns are just giving us our moneys worth, and are
willing to let as many others suffer and even die in order to prove
their mostly white-oligarch side is always right about everything, and
were never responsible for having provoked anyone nor having made any
mistakes or having overreacted to any Karma revenge that they'd
created for us in the first place.

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: (Couldn't believe it was a Plane, impacting a massive concrete
thingy.)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Thu, May 2, 2013, 10:35am (EDT-3) From:
brad...@gmail.com (Brad Guth)

====================

What is this fixation on the Nazis? Are you turned on by buff, blond
guys in black uniforms or what?

BDK is about as non-Nazi as Simon Weisenthal was. You, otoh, have proven
over and over that you and the truth have nothing in common.

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: (Couldn't believe it was a Plane, impacting a massive concrete
thingy.)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Thu, May 2, 2013, 1:10pm From:
fake...@nomail.invalid (Bast)

BDK wrote:
In article <kls9kj$kdr$1...@dont-email.me>, fake...@nomail.invalid says...
BDK wrote:
In article <-_-dnbcH-rax6BzMn...@giganews.com>,
gbl...@hnpl.net says...
On 01/05/13 19:05, BDK wrote:
He should, because he does a very bad job of it, like of like Professor
Irwin Corey, "The world's foremost authority!". Brad can spout all kinds
of meaninless babble, just like Corey, but it makes even less sense.
ANd take up every conspiracy cause without actually questioning the
claims
Kind of like Lookey and the 666/mark of the beast kOOks. He swallows it
all.
Are you two having fun ?
Why do yuo think we are here? Oh right, you think we get paid!
BWHAHAHAHA! You poor kOOktard.
Good,.....we want the lurkers to see that you do.
We want the lurkers to talk to an engineer, a real expert, not
kOOkpages, and learn the stupidity of troofery.
Right. I'm sure people with degrees/accreditations and working daily as
professionals and associated this site, will answer their questions.
Architects & Engineers for 911 Truth.
http://www.ae911truth.org

===================

Classic kOOk site. No truth. Lots of dark paranoid mutterings.
"Architects" and "engineers" with zero experience with the Twin Towers
"tube in a tube" design or the unique WTC7 "no real foundation" design.

Or look at it this way- when the Space Shuttle "Challenger" exploded,
did they assemble an investigation consisting of:

A) Engineers who design high-tech rocketry, rocket scientists, etc., or

B) Engineers experienced in piston engines, fuel transfer systems and
passenger seating?

SANE people pick "A".

Troofer kOOks go for "B".
------------------------------

Or they can take your advice, and ask politicans/government employees
who haven't worked in the real word for most of their lives, or dweeb
journalists from community college 6 month mail order courses.

[Padraigh ProAmerica]

Re: (Couldn't believe it was a Plane, impacting a massive concrete
thingy.)

Group: alt.conspiracy Date: Thu, May 2, 2013, 4:23pm From:
fake...@nomail.invalid (Bast)

======================

Sorry, sweetums, YouTube is NOT a reliable source; it is VERY simple to
manipulate vudeo and audio now.

A guy at a local CATV station has assembled a video of (admitedly)
altered videos proving beyond any doubt 9/11 was done by the Boy Scouts
of America.

[joeturn]

I hate to admit it but you got that right,at least ten percent of
their panel are government shills paid to steer them away from the NO
PLANES and the missile attack at the Pentagram.For instance Robert
Hopper PH.D his wife and several family members are on the panel, he
is
none other than John Gross from the NIST panel.

[george152]

On 03/05/13 09:45, joeturn wrote:
> On May 2, 4:18 pm, george152 <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:

> I hate to admit it but you got that right at least ten percent of
> their panel are government shills paid to steer them awat from the NO

> PLANES and the missile attack at the Pentagram.For instance Robert

> Hopper PH.D his wife and several family mebers are on the panel, he is

> none other than John Gross from the NIST panel.
>

Decoder ring time