Spaceship On The Moon?
Hurt
until they tells what they know about this and anything else they've
found.
Phlip
I likes! You got me wondering how real it is; if the video is authentic
Apollo archives, if the commentary is real, etc.
If it's a real alien ship abandoned on the Lunar surface, it's untainted by
our human's wishful thinking. It's not a mountain that looks like a face, or
a message to humans, or anything to work on our delusions of grandeur. It's
just a piece of ancient hardware with nothing to do with us.
How cheaply could we land a little skateboard near it?
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Hurt
> I likes! You got me wondering how real it is; if the video is authentic
> Apollo archives, if the commentary is real, etc.
It looks like the informational dam is bursting. I always figured
there was something like this but this is the first confirmation I've
had of it.
> If it's a real alien ship abandoned on the Lunar surface, it's untainted by
> our human's wishful thinking. It's not a mountain that looks like a face, or
> a message to humans, or anything to work on our delusions of grandeur. It's
> just a piece of ancient hardware with nothing to do with us.
Yeah. This isn't any funny shaped rock. I'm always so disappointed
when I expect to see something that looks like the real deal only to
see more funny shaped rocks. If this is real, and it sure looks to
be, you know that THEY know a lot more about this. It wasn't long ago
that someone stole a whole bunch of material from NASA. I wonder if
it was to cover this up. Or maybe they released this? But it
probably does have to do with us. More likely than not that ship is
from a former "human" civilization. It looks like Charlton Heston
wasn't just acting when he said, "YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP!! DAMN
YOU! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!". Look, they even used a similar
looking spaceship in the movie. Obviously a lot of people have known
about this for quite some time.
Hurt
Hurt
Someone claimed that they, a URL in their email, was being filtered by
AOL. So I checked and sure enough that URL phrase was being
filtered. Now I have no right to have my postings on someones server
for free. But it makes you wonder who decides what information gets
to who.
The Ghost In The Machine
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on 12 May 2007 13:43:38 -0700
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The last mission was Apollo 17. Apollo 18-20 were cancelled.
(According to the official pap, anyway.)
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Hurt
> The last mission was Apollo 17. Apollo 18-20 were cancelled.
> (According to the official pap, anyway.)
That would explain the apparent abrupt ending of the Apollo program.
Only the public view ended. That probably means that we've continued
going to moon in secret for all these years. Excavating whatever we,
they, found up there. This is so exciting. I wonder how far advanced
the technology they found up there is. Once again, it is HIGHLY
probable that this is for REAL.
quintal
Phlip
> Only the public view ended.
If I asked how to launch a huge freaking rocket in secret, without leaving a
big twisty vapor trail going up into the sky, visible for hundreds of miles,
I would probably get some rambling mumbo-jumbo. Let's see... Using the
discovered alien technology itself? Claiming we are "just nuking another
country - pay it no mind"? Timing the launches to coincide with "American
Idol"?
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Hurt
> If I asked how to launch a huge freaking rocket in secret, without leaving a
> big twisty vapor trail going up into the sky, visible for hundreds of miles,
> I would probably get some rambling mumbo-jumbo. Let's see... Using the
> discovered alien technology itself? Claiming we are "just nuking another
> country - pay it no mind"? Timing the launches to coincide with "American
> Idol"?
Oh come on, rockets get launched on almost a daily basis. And that's
from only the well know sites. Who knows what they are doing in South
America or from ocean platforms. When they launch something you can't
tell if it's a military satellite, a weather satellite, a scientific
satellite, or a launch to the moon.
Hurt
> AOL, eeewww
I think AOL was once a vain attempt at a controlled portal to the
Internet. I'm sure that effort is still going on in some form. You
know how government programs, once they get started, seem to never
die.
quintal
wrote:
>
>> AOL, eeewww
>
>I think AOL was once a vain attempt at a controlled portal to the
>Internet.
sure looks like it
big brother
> I'm sure that effort is still going on in some form. You
>know how government programs, once they get started, seem to never
>die.
yup
they'll end up fucking the internet for sure
but i dont think all the education it gave us will go away like smoke
it will turn out into other ways of sharing information, maybe a small
network thing on the local level
quintal
wrote:
you're all worked up and excited like someone who falls for his first
hoaxes
Hurt
> you're all worked up and excited like someone who falls for his first
> hoaxes
It might be a hoax. It could be a pencil for all I know. But it
doesn't seem to be. Look at the spaceship in the "Planet of the
Apes". Somewhat similar. And that movie was made in the late 60s.
Coincidence? A continuing hoax since then? A modern day hoax using a
reference from that long ago? Or is it exactly what it appears to
be. Is it that hard to believe that something like this could exist.
Not for me.
Phlip
> doesn't seem to be. Look at the spaceship in the "Planet of the
> Apes". Somewhat similar. And that movie was made in the late 60s.
For the love of the diety of your choosing, could you possibly learn to skid
to a halt just before seguing from "It might be a hoax" to "that movie ...
in the late 60s"?!
No, Hurt, even for the real conspiracies and mysteries out there, the Powers
that Be don't just tease us with them by dropping irritating hints into
irritating movies about apes!
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Hurt
> No, Hurt, even for the real conspiracies and mysteries out there, the Powers
> that Be don't just tease us with them by dropping irritating hints into
> irritating movies about apes!
Sure they do, all the time. Hollywood is the greatest plagiarizer of
them all. They plagiarize reality. Of course we seem to be running
out of that.
george
Riiight.
And how would we be going to the Moon 'secretly' ?
Taken the number of people it takes to build, maintain and operate a
space program...
And IF there was such an artifact on the Moon I'd guarantee we'd be
there officially. with at least one base
Hurt
> Riiight.
> And how would we be going to the Moon 'secretly' ?
> Taken the number of people it takes to build, maintain and operate a
> space program...
Well it depends on what you mean by secret. Let's say not generally
known to the public. Obviously there are thousands of people
involved. You can easily control access to launch and control
facilities. Most people involved remain silent since it would be
rather easy to determine what information was leaked. And of course
the media "humanoids" can't get to the Moon just yet. So keeping it
relatively secret would not be that difficult.
> And IF there was such an artifact on the Moon I'd guarantee we'd be
> there officially. with at least one base
Sure. Officially, but secretly. At least one base eh. Gee, if this
is so, how's it all going up there. And what I really want to know is
how many years in advance of our current technology were they?
quintal
wrote:
not for me either, you have no idea how much crap i'm ready to
believe;-)
i havent watched that video enough to see anything, i was bored.
but you seem so "wow, this looks real" that well, i wonder if you have
previous experience with this type of "revelations" and "evidence".
once you've believed hoaxes and discovered you've been had, you get
cooler when you meet new stuff. That's all I meant.
quintal
oh they do
the movies are a major mean of revealing stuff to the public.
it isnt said to your rational mind, but to your imaging mind.
there must be a motive for it, maybe the fact that you have to tell to
your victim what you're doing to her, for the ritual to work.
it's like, "oh, but you've been warned, therefore you are responsible,
and we are clear"
quintal
>On May 14, 4:17 am, Hurt <hurt_beyond_rep...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > The last mission was Apollo 17. Apollo 18-20 were cancelled.
>> > (According to the official pap, anyway.)
>>
>> That would explain the apparent abrupt ending of the Apollo program.
>> Only the public view ended. That probably means that we've continued
>> going to moon in secret for all these years. Excavating whatever we,
>> they, found up there. This is so exciting. I wonder how far advanced
>> the technology they found up there is. Once again, it is HIGHLY
>> probable that this is for REAL.
>
>
>Riiight.
>And how would we be going to the Moon 'secretly' ?
not a problem
>Taken the number of people it takes to build, maintain and operate a
>space program...
people? do you know how many people disappear every year?
about money, think drug trade among other things.
>And IF there was such an artifact on the Moon I'd guarantee we'd be
>there officially. with at least one base
how do you know there isnt a base there, as well as on mars.
Hurt
> how do you know there isnt a base there, as well as on mars.
Ya know this may seem strange but... maybe. Check this out. One day
in a casual conversation about the Mars rovers with a local spook,
with friends obviously in low places, he says why the man on Mars
cleaned the solar panel. You know, the one that was supposedly
cleaned by a windstorm. It made me pause but then I thought nah.
Well if we're on the Moon we may very well be on Mars. I know this is
hard to believe, but I think we may very well have a presence on Mars
too. I'm almost giggling. This is like so wild. I'm very, very,
serious.
Nomen Nescio
> On 13 May 2007 11:12:09 -0700, Hurt <hurt_beyo...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> you're all worked up and excited like someone who falls for his first
>>> hoaxes
>>
>>It might be a hoax. It could be a pencil for all I know. But it
>>doesn't seem to be. Look at the spaceship in the "Planet of the
>>Apes". Somewhat similar. And that movie was made in the late 60s.
>>Coincidence? A continuing hoax since then? A modern day hoax using a
>>reference from that long ago? Or is it exactly what it appears to
>>be. Is it that hard to believe that something like this could exist.
>>Not for me.
>
> not for me either, you have no idea how much crap i'm ready to
> believe;-)
>
> i havent watched that video enough to see anything, i was bored.
Please watch it. The 'spaceship' shows up around 3:30 into the video. If
it isn't a hoax, it's the best faked video I've ever seen. Granted, the
quality of the thing isn't that great to start with, so that might make it
easier for the fakers, but it looks absolutely real.
I hope a photo expert or two will give it a look and try to spot the
giveaways if there are any.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7mkHtuLOs
Douglas Berry
wrote:
>
>> The last mission was Apollo 17. Apollo 18-20 were cancelled.
>> (According to the official pap, anyway.)
>
>That would explain the apparent abrupt ending of the Apollo program.
>Only the public view ended. That probably means that we've continued
>going to moon in secret for all these years. Excavating whatever we,
>they, found up there. This is so exciting. I wonder how far advanced
>the technology they found up there is. Once again, it is HIGHLY
>probable that this is for REAL.
OK, first of all explain how you launch a Saturn V secretly. We had
exactly one pad in America that could handle the stack, and when it
launch it was naked-eye visible 90 miles away.
Never mind the fact that an unannounced Saturn launch would have cause
some chaos at the Soviet Union's missile defense center. There is
*no* difference between an orbital insertion and a ballistic missile
attack to a radar.
Now, go to Huntsville and Houston. You can see the Saturn V boosters
on static display there, slowly rusting away. Those were for 18 and
19. The booster for 20 had been ordered, but work hadn't begun when
Congress ended the program.
The last manned mission to the Moon was Apollo 17.
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Phlip
> exactly one pad in America that could handle the stack, and when it
> launch it was naked-eye visible 90 miles away.
You cannot use logic to talk someone out of a position they did not use
logic to embrace.
The game here is to take anything we've been told is an Official Fact,
handed down by Authority, and we get a guilty pleasure rebelling against
that Authority by playing with the fact. Woo hoo! They can't catch us!
And if YOU want to help in the fun, you can try to join with Authority and
recite the so-called Supporting Details of this Official Fact. That lets us
kooks grant you the powers of that Authority by proxy. So by arguing with
you, we are heroically resisting The Man!
They used alien technology to build a new launch system, duh!
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Hurt
> They used alien technology to build a new launch system, duh!
Maybe.
Were you a philosophy major? Sure sounds like it.
Hurt
> OK, first of all explain how you launch a Saturn V secretly. We had
> exactly one pad in America that could handle the stack, and when it
> launch it was naked-eye visible 90 miles away.
Build another that's at least 90 miles away.
> Never mind the fact that an unannounced Saturn launch would have cause
> some chaos at the Soviet Union's missile defense center. There is
> *no* difference between an orbital insertion and a ballistic missile
> attack to a radar.
Who's to say that Soviets didn't know, that is, were informed. Why
should they publish their intelligence to anybody. How many people do
you have to account for that would be in the know on such things,
especially back then, not many, maybe a few hundred at most. Or lunch
out of view, in the Southern Hemisphere, maybe even in Antarctica.
I'm just offering some of the possibilities, of which there are many.
> Now, go to Huntsville and Houston. You can see the Saturn V boosters
> on static display there, slowly rusting away. Those were for 18 and
> 19. The booster for 20 had been ordered, but work hadn't begun when
> Congress ended the program.
Or maybe they did use new publicly unknown technology. I myself have
thought of a design that might work like a flying saucer, as popularly
described. Of course it would have required at least a nuclear power
source, and computer technology that didn't supposedly exist back then.
Vandar
Using technology that wasn't around, they launched a rocket that was
never built from a launch pad that doesn't exist on a mission that never
happened.
Riiiight.
Hurt
> > Or lunch out of view, in the Southern Hemisphere, maybe even in Antarctica.
He-he. If you're a really private person like myself. Of course you
couldn't do that regularly; too monetarily and time expensive.
> Using technology that wasn't around, they launched a rocket that was
> never built from a launch pad that doesn't exist on a mission that never
> happened.
>
> Riiiight.
Says you.
Phlip
> Hurt wrote:
>> Or maybe they did use new publicly unknown technology. I myself have
>> thought of a design that might work like a flying saucer, as popularly
>> described. Of course it would have required at least a nuclear power
>> source, and computer technology that didn't supposedly exist back then.
>
> Using technology that wasn't around, they launched a rocket that was never
> built from a launch pad that doesn't exist on a mission that never
> happened.
>
> Riiiight.
Shhh - he's on a roll!
I can't wait for him to drag in northern lake monsters...
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Phlip
> Antarctica.
Tip: Orbital insertion is easiest from the equator. And extreme cold has
been shown to be rather bad for rockets...
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Roger Coppock
wrote:
> On 13 May 2007 09:17:17 -0700, Hurt <hurt_beyond_rep...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >> The last mission was Apollo 17. Apollo 18-20 were cancelled.
> >> (According to the official pap, anyway.)
>
> >That would explain the apparent abrupt ending of the Apollo program.
> >Only the public view ended. That probably means that we've continued
> >going to moon in secret for all these years. Excavating whatever we,
> >they, found up there. This is so exciting. I wonder how far advanced
> >the technology they found up there is. Once again, it is HIGHLY
> >probable that this is for REAL.
>
> OK, first of all explain how you launch a Saturn V secretly. We had
> exactly one pad in America that could handle the stack, and when it
> launch it was naked-eye visible 90 miles away.
There were two launch pads at the Cape.
A duplicate pad was built at Vandenburg
AFB in California, but it was never used.
>
> Never mind the fact that an unannounced Saturn launch would have cause
> some chaos at the Soviet Union's missile defense center. There is
> *no* difference between an orbital insertion and a ballistic missile
> attack to a radar.
>
> Now, go to Huntsville and Houston. You can see the Saturn V boosters
> on static display there, slowly rusting away. Those were for 18 and
> 19. The booster for 20 had been ordered, but work hadn't begun when
> Congress ended the program.
>
> The last manned mission to the Moon was Apollo 17.
They launched from the secret NAZI base inside the hollow
Earth, the place where they keep Hitler's brain alive.
The rocket came out the hidden door in Antarctica. The
crew included Judge Crater and Marilyn Monroe. Amelia
Earheart was the pilot. ;-)
This thing is OBVIOUSLY a fake. There are so many
thing wrong I couldn't list them all. For just one
example, listen to the soundtrack. The "NASA Beep"
was an 'over to you' signal. This Video just beeps
too many times. You don't hear any astronauts
voices, either.
BradGuth
> Hey, this looks VERY real. Ok, that's it, cut all government funding
> until they tells what they know about this and anything else they've
> found.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7mkHtuLOs
But you still think we've walked on the moon. What does that tell us?
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