--
The LORD has came for
the righteous dead
http://www.ashesaid.com/
lu...@frontiernet.net
"Luke Nichols" <lu...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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Glad to see your still posting. The Waco nuts were cultists and deluded
beyond belief. What they did to their children amounts to child abuse.
HOWEVER it was a terrible tragedy. The FBI set fire to the compound. That is
obvious. And before people say they could have surrendered any time why
should they when most of them did nothing wrong. In their eyes they were
just defending their way of life.
As for the OKC bombings witnesses reported seeing a second man with Timothy
and if he was so mad at the BATF why didn't he bomb their headquarters? And
why were they in bomb gear which would have taken hours to put on? Something
smells fishy in the state of Denmark.
And then there was the Curious Case of Capt. Button
who after receiving a mysterious phone call, commandeered
his A10 Thunderbolt equipped with four 500lb bombs while
on a training mission and headed to the court house where
the trial was going on...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_D._Button
As with the FT HOOD shooter,
how could we POSSIBLY read anything into such motives?
Even so, there were those who warned of the
curtain of darkness that was about to enshroud
the world. This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.
A Glasnost to Terror the likes of which the World has never seen.
C'Mon CITIZEN, Let's put a SMILE on that FACE!
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/156120.JPG
CTHILLARY:2012
We were warned.
>
>
>"Luke Nichols" <lu...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>news:OrtPm.25259$Sw5....@newsfe16.iad...
>> http://www.examiner.com/x-27692-LA-County-Libertarian-Examiner~y2009m11d23-A-visit-to-Waco-Texas-sixteen-years-later
>>
>> --
>> The LORD has came for
>> the righteous dead
>>
>> http://www.ashesaid.com/
>> lu...@frontiernet.net
>>
>>
>Glad to see your still posting. The Waco nuts were cultists and deluded
>beyond belief. What they did to their children amounts to child abuse.
>HOWEVER it was a terrible tragedy. The FBI set fire to the compound.
Did they?
>That is obvious.
Oh! Obvious! Well, then there's absolutely no need for evidence then.
>And before people say they could have surrendered any time why
>should they when most of them did nothing wrong.
If they'd done nothing wrong, why not surrender?
>In their eyes they were just defending their way of life.
Breaking the law to defend your way of life is still breaking the law.
--
Shill #2
I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
It's hard to say who is the bigger loon, Lookey, you, or the whackjob
who wrote that article.
--
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
The Branch Davidians set the fires Seon. It's obvious you've spent way
too much time reading the kookpages and watching the videos they have up
that "showed" the tanks shooting flames into the building. The BDs set
the fires, in several areas, themselves.
Most of them did nothing wrong? They allowed their kids to be molested,
that's all, but the biggest thing they did wrong was following their
insane leader in the first place. And sadly, they and the kids paid the
price for doing so. Did the feds screw it up in the first place? Hell
yes, but the BDs have to take most of the blame for what happened to
them.
>
> As for the OKC bombings witnesses reported seeing a second man with Timothy
> and if he was so mad at the BATF why didn't he bomb their headquarters? And
> why were they in bomb gear which would have taken hours to put on?
Bomb gear takes hours to put on? My friend on the local bomb squad will
need to hear about this, he's been doing it way too fast!
That's hilarious.
> Something smells fishy in the state of Denmark.
And someone is as clueless as ever in the nation of Australia.
"MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" <ExPre...@au.revoir.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCF4EF7EB6B0Ex...@69.16.185.250...
> "Seon Ferguson"
> ...
>> Glad to see your still posting. The Waco nuts were cultists and deluded
>> beyond belief. What they did to their children amounts to child abuse.
>> HOWEVER it was a terrible tragedy. The FBI set fire to the compound.
>> That is obvious. And before people say they could have surrendered any
>> time why should they when most of them did nothing wrong. In their eyes
>> they were just defending their way of life.
>>
>> As for the OKC bombings witnesses reported seeing a second man with
>> Timothy and if he was so mad at the BATF why didn't he bomb their
>> headquarters? And why were they in bomb gear which would have taken
>> hours to put on? Something smells fishy in the state of Denmark.
>
>
> And then there was the Curious Case of Capt. Button
> who after receiving a mysterious phone call, commandeered
> his A10 Thunderbolt equipped with four 500lb bombs while
> on a training mission and headed to the court house where
> the trial was going on...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_D._Button
>
And don't forget Ruby Ridge.
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:sbbtg5l233cp9jvpq...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:29 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Luke Nichols" <lu...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>>news:OrtPm.25259$Sw5....@newsfe16.iad...
>>> http://www.examiner.com/x-27692-LA-County-Libertarian-Examiner~y2009m11d23-A-visit-to-Waco-Texas-sixteen-years-later
>>>
>>> --
>>> The LORD has came for
>>> the righteous dead
>>>
>>> http://www.ashesaid.com/
>>> lu...@frontiernet.net
>>>
>>>
>>Glad to see your still posting. The Waco nuts were cultists and deluded
>>beyond belief. What they did to their children amounts to child abuse.
>>HOWEVER it was a terrible tragedy. The FBI set fire to the compound.
>
>
> Did they?
>
>
*sigh* watch waco rules of engagement
>>That is obvious.
>
>
> Oh! Obvious! Well, then there's absolutely no need for evidence then.
>
>
>
>>And before people say they could have surrendered any time why
>>should they when most of them did nothing wrong.
>
>
> If they'd done nothing wrong, why not surrender?
>
>
a. Why should they let the government tell them what to do even when they
are being lawful? b. if they tried to walk out a FBI sniper would have got
them
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2578a3921...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> In article <ONWdnWEEP-jg9ZPW...@westnet.com.au>,
> seo...@gmail.com says...
>>
>>
>> "Luke Nichols" <lu...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> news:OrtPm.25259$Sw5....@newsfe16.iad...
>> > http://www.examiner.com/x-27692-LA-County-Libertarian-Examiner~y2009m11d23-A-visit-to-Waco-Texas-sixteen-years-later
>> >
>> > --
>> > The LORD has came for
>> > the righteous dead
>> >
>> > http://www.ashesaid.com/
>> > lu...@frontiernet.net
>> >
>> >
>> Glad to see your still posting. The Waco nuts were cultists and deluded
>> beyond belief. What they did to their children amounts to child abuse.
>> HOWEVER it was a terrible tragedy. The FBI set fire to the compound. That
>> is
>> obvious. And before people say they could have surrendered any time why
>> should they when most of them did nothing wrong. In their eyes they were
>> just defending their way of life.
>
> The Branch Davidians set the fires Seon. It's obvious you've spent way
> too much time reading the kookpages and watching the videos they have up
> that "showed" the tanks shooting flames into the building. The BDs set
> the fires, in several areas, themselves.
>
Yeah right and you say that despite the eye witnesses who said that tank
started the fire.
> Most of them did nothing wrong? They allowed their kids to be molested,
> that's all, but the biggest thing they did wrong was following their
> insane leader in the first place. And sadly, they and the kids paid the
> price for doing so. Did the feds screw it up in the first place? Hell
> yes, but the BDs have to take most of the blame for what happened to
> them.
>
>>
Ok yes I never said the Branch Dividians weren't brainwashed cultistists.
But that doesn't mean they deserve to be burnt alive. Ok maybe David Korish
does for the evil things he did.
>> As for the OKC bombings witnesses reported seeing a second man with
>> Timothy
>> and if he was so mad at the BATF why didn't he bomb their headquarters?
>> And
>> why were they in bomb gear which would have taken hours to put on?
>
> Bomb gear takes hours to put on? My friend on the local bomb squad will
> need to hear about this, he's been doing it way too fast!
>
So all the gear the BATF had on seconds after the bomb went of would have
taken them seconds?
Or Elian.
http://www.lastsigh.com/elian/index.html
Or more recently
the now proven fraud of Global Warming...
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/100294.jpg
GLOBAL WARMING:: something about earth, mars, jupiter, pluto,
Hale Bopp, apple sauce and free range cattle.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/9/2/163900.shtml
Earth Summit Participants Fail to Support Pollution 'Offset' Fund
"They are not going to do anything with the trust fund money anyway,
it would have just bought more caviar and lobster," Arnold added. He
was referring to news reports last week detailing how delegates to the
summit are staying at posh hotels and feasting on gourmet foods while
they hold meetings on eradicating poverty and famine."
I tried to represent a better America when I was president.
But now I don't have to...
-- Bill Clinton'06
"MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" <ExPre...@au.revoir.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCFCFB1264B1Ex...@69.16.185.247...
Well man made global warming anyway. Signing the Copenhagen treaty will
destroy the economy.
Shameless Retail Politico's will sign it anyway.
It was never about destroying the economy,
it was about destroying Civilization.
About being there at the Pinnacle of it All to PISS IT ALL AWAY.
The world should realize, now, without illusion
what the true objective of Desperate and Deliberately Evil are,
that we continue to quiver over the now disproven hypothesis of
Global Warming while we continue to ignore the fact and imminent
peril of Nuclear Iran, of the overt actions of Evil Men jockeying to
become Emminent Monster of our day, to Destroy ALL.
http://www.alternet.org/audits/136877/dubai%27s_lesson_to_america%
3A_how_the_middle_east%27s_shangrai_la_became_a_hell_on_earth/?page=entire
Dubai's Lesson to America:
How the Middle East's Shangrai La Became a Hell on Earth
HELL is only a word.
The REALITY is so much, much worse.
Soon the world will know the truth of it all.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/13629.jpg
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/01/afghanistan.terrorism
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Report%20bin%20Laden%20treated%20at%
20US%20hospital%20--%20The%20Washington%20Times.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bin_laden_met_cia.html
Bin Laden underwent treatment in July at
Dubai American Hospital
"MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" <ExPre...@au.revoir.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCFD8CBCBB94Ex...@69.16.185.247...
All she cares about is her next Botox injection.
They're either lying, or loons themselves.
Watch the videos. Not the ones on the kookpages, it's not hard to see
what happened. Even you should be able to figure it out.
>
> > Most of them did nothing wrong? They allowed their kids to be molested,
> > that's all, but the biggest thing they did wrong was following their
> > insane leader in the first place. And sadly, they and the kids paid the
> > price for doing so. Did the feds screw it up in the first place? Hell
> > yes, but the BDs have to take most of the blame for what happened to
> > them.
> >
> >>
> Ok yes I never said the Branch Dividians weren't brainwashed cultistists.
> But that doesn't mean they deserve to be burnt alive. Ok maybe David Korish
> does for the evil things he did.
They set the fires, so they're to blame for burning. Simple.
There's your problem, watching kookvids. Someone with your lack of
bullshit filtering shouldn't do that alone, you need someone right there
to pause it, and explain why what you just saw was "wrong".
>
> >>That is obvious.
> >
> >
> > Oh! Obvious! Well, then there's absolutely no need for evidence then.
> >
> >
> >
> >>And before people say they could have surrendered any time why
> >>should they when most of them did nothing wrong.
> >
> >
> > If they'd done nothing wrong, why not surrender?
> >
> >
> a. Why should they let the government tell them what to do even when they
> are being lawful? b. if they tried to walk out a FBI sniper would have got
> them
BWHAHAHAHA! Wow. What's the name of your planet?
>
> >
> >>In their eyes they were just defending their way of life.
> >
> >
> > Breaking the law to defend your way of life is still breaking the law.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shill #2
> >
> > I am not young enough to know everything.
> > Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
>
>
--
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25794a237...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> In article <dIydnYOucoiSjpLW...@westnet.com.au>,
> seo...@gmail.com says...
>>
>>
>> "Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sbbtg5l233cp9jvpq...@4ax.com...
>> > On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:37:29 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"Luke Nichols" <lu...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> >>news:OrtPm.25259$Sw5....@newsfe16.iad...
>> >>> http://www.examiner.com/x-27692-LA-County-Libertarian-Examiner~y2009m11d23-A-visit-to-Waco-Texas-sixteen-years-later
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> The LORD has came for
>> >>> the righteous dead
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.ashesaid.com/
>> >>> lu...@frontiernet.net
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>Glad to see your still posting. The Waco nuts were cultists and deluded
>> >>beyond belief. What they did to their children amounts to child abuse.
>> >>HOWEVER it was a terrible tragedy. The FBI set fire to the compound.
>> >
>> >
>> > Did they?
>> >
>> >
>> *sigh* watch waco rules of engagement
>
> There's your problem, watching kookvids. Someone with your lack of
> bullshit filtering shouldn't do that alone, you need someone right there
> to pause it, and explain why what you just saw was "wrong".
>
>>
So all the witnesses and video footage were lies?
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.257949122...@news.buckeye-express.com...
Ok what video would you think is credible then? And even so do you agree
with the tactics the BATF used where the bastards played audio of rabbits
dying or loud music?
>> > Most of them did nothing wrong? They allowed their kids to be molested,
>> > that's all, but the biggest thing they did wrong was following their
>> > insane leader in the first place. And sadly, they and the kids paid the
>> > price for doing so. Did the feds screw it up in the first place? Hell
>> > yes, but the BDs have to take most of the blame for what happened to
>> > them.
>> >
>> >>
>> Ok yes I never said the Branch Dividians weren't brainwashed cultistists.
>> But that doesn't mean they deserve to be burnt alive. Ok maybe David
>> Korish
>> does for the evil things he did.
>
> They set the fires, so they're to blame for burning. Simple.
>
>>
And the evidence is?...
You mean the video footage where the "flames" are actually reflections
of the sun?
There are video clips from the news stories done at the time all over
the place.
> And even so do you agree with the tactics the BATF used where the bastards played audio of rabbits
> dying or loud music?
It's supposed to ignore them, that's the point. What's so horrible about
it? My old dog killed rabbits all the time, the noise they made wasn't
pleasant, but it didn't make me cry or anything.
>
> >> > Most of them did nothing wrong? They allowed their kids to be molested,
> >> > that's all, but the biggest thing they did wrong was following their
> >> > insane leader in the first place. And sadly, they and the kids paid the
> >> > price for doing so. Did the feds screw it up in the first place? Hell
> >> > yes, but the BDs have to take most of the blame for what happened to
> >> > them.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> Ok yes I never said the Branch Dividians weren't brainwashed cultistists.
> >> But that doesn't mean they deserve to be burnt alive. Ok maybe David
> >> Korish
> >> does for the evil things he did.
> >
> > They set the fires, so they're to blame for burning. Simple.
> >
> >>
> And the evidence is?...
The evidence is how the fires started, and in more than one place at the
same time. And since there was no flames coming from the tanks, what do
you think started the fire?
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25796553f...@news.buckeye-express.com...
Well what site? I would like to look at it for myself.
>> And even so do you agree with the tactics the BATF used where the
>> bastards played audio of rabbits
>> dying or loud music?
>
> It's supposed to ignore them, that's the point. What's so horrible about
> it? My old dog killed rabbits all the time, the noise they made wasn't
> pleasant, but it didn't make me cry or anything.
>
>>
They were kids there and they played those noises all night so no one could
even sleep. Is that ok?
>> >> > Most of them did nothing wrong? They allowed their kids to be
>> >> > molested,
>> >> > that's all, but the biggest thing they did wrong was following their
>> >> > insane leader in the first place. And sadly, they and the kids paid
>> >> > the
>> >> > price for doing so. Did the feds screw it up in the first place?
>> >> > Hell
>> >> > yes, but the BDs have to take most of the blame for what happened to
>> >> > them.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> Ok yes I never said the Branch Dividians weren't brainwashed
>> >> cultistists.
>> >> But that doesn't mean they deserve to be burnt alive. Ok maybe David
>> >> Korish
>> >> does for the evil things he did.
>> >
>> > They set the fires, so they're to blame for burning. Simple.
>> >
>> >>
>> And the evidence is?...
>
> The evidence is how the fires started, and in more than one place at the
> same time. And since there was no flames coming from the tanks, what do
> you think started the fire?
>
>
Wait I thought the tank fired something. I need to re watch wacco rules of
engagement...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1wz0i_ae-biography-david-koresh-part-5
_politics
>
> >> And even so do you agree with the tactics the BATF used where the
> >> bastards played audio of rabbits
> >> dying or loud music?
> >
> > It's supposed to ignore them, that's the point. What's so horrible about
> > it? My old dog killed rabbits all the time, the noise they made wasn't
> > pleasant, but it didn't make me cry or anything.
> >
> >>
> They were kids there and they played those noises all night so no one could
> even sleep. Is that ok?
I meant annoy them, but do you actually think the kid's sleeping is all
that important, compared to what else was going on???
>
> >> >> > Most of them did nothing wrong? They allowed their kids to be
> >> >> > molested,
> >> >> > that's all, but the biggest thing they did wrong was following their
> >> >> > insane leader in the first place. And sadly, they and the kids paid
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > price for doing so. Did the feds screw it up in the first place?
> >> >> > Hell
> >> >> > yes, but the BDs have to take most of the blame for what happened to
> >> >> > them.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> Ok yes I never said the Branch Dividians weren't brainwashed
> >> >> cultistists.
> >> >> But that doesn't mean they deserve to be burnt alive. Ok maybe David
> >> >> Korish
> >> >> does for the evil things he did.
> >> >
> >> > They set the fires, so they're to blame for burning. Simple.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> And the evidence is?...
> >
> > The evidence is how the fires started, and in more than one place at the
> > same time. And since there was no flames coming from the tanks, what do
> > you think started the fire?
> >
> >
> Wait I thought the tank fired something. I need to re watch wacco rules of
> engagement...
Tear gas, and why do you insist on watching kookvids as the basis for
your opinions?
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2579f08e...@news.buckeye-express.com...
I'll check it out.
>>
>> >> And even so do you agree with the tactics the BATF used where the
>> >> bastards played audio of rabbits
>> >> dying or loud music?
>> >
>> > It's supposed to ignore them, that's the point. What's so horrible
>> > about
>> > it? My old dog killed rabbits all the time, the noise they made wasn't
>> > pleasant, but it didn't make me cry or anything.
>> >
>> >>
>> They were kids there and they played those noises all night so no one
>> could
>> even sleep. Is that ok?
>
> I meant annoy them, but do you actually think the kid's sleeping is all
> that important, compared to what else was going on???
>
>>
Yes what david koresh did was evil but using tactics like that and not
allowing anyone to sleep...come on. Not in America the land of the free.
Didn't the BATF said they won't fire on anybody? If the dividians did start
the fire it was probably because they were freaked out and believed they
were under assault and wanted to take the bad guys (who they perceived were
bad) with them.
IF the dividians started the fire it was as a result of the tank firing tear
gas.
>Yes what david koresh did was evil but using tactics like that and not
>allowing anyone to sleep...come on. Not in America the land of the free.
"tactics like that" are non-lethal. It's a way of trying to make people
give up without have to shoot at them.
So what you have here is evidence that the authorities tried to avoid
casualties.
Where do you come up with this stuff?
How can you expect the feds to understand their insanity?
>
> IF the dividians started the fire it was as a result of the tank firing tear
> gas.
You know it was hours from when the gas was launched before the fires,
right?
The kookvids never, ever tell you that, do they?
I don't think there is a kook theory that is too insane for Seon not
to swallow whole without thinking.
Harry K
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:n7t2h5dlavoqh741n...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:35:57 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Yes what david koresh did was evil but using tactics like that and not
>>allowing anyone to sleep...come on. Not in America the land of the free.
>
> "tactics like that" are non-lethal. It's a way of trying to make people
> give up without have to shoot at them.
>
> So what you have here is evidence that the authorities tried to avoid
> casualties.
>
I can't believe anyone would support those evil tactics. They were children
there.
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:35:57 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Yes what david koresh did was evil but using tactics like that and not
>>allowing anyone to sleep...come on. Not in America the land of the free.
>
> "tactics like that" are non-lethal. It's a way of trying to make people
> give up without have to shoot at them.
>
> So what you have here is evidence that the authorities tried to avoid
> casualties.
No such thing. Try a resource that doesn't have "Fox News" stamped on it.
--
*=( http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
*=( For all your UK news needs.
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.257b459f1...@news.buckeye-express.com...
Hmmm no...do you have a credible site with a credible timeline? Obviously if
the tank did start the fire they would have had hours to escape.
And your solution would have been what?
1. Go in with guns blazing?
2. Just shrug your shoulders and leave?
Harry K
"harry k" <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d2987694-80fc-46e5...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Arrest David Koresh when he was actually in town and not do those horrible
things to those kids. That's just inhumane.
>
> Harry K
You're so delicate. But once they didn't arrest him in town, what would
you suggest they have done?
> >
> > Harry K
The tanks shot the gas in, backed off, then were coming back for a
repeat later on, and that's when the fires started. I think that clip I
posted the link to says something about it.
They could have easily saved themselves.
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.257bf03ec...@news.buckeye-express.com...
Delicate? Maybe arrest them when he left again and yell at the idiots who
didn't arrest them when they had a chance and could have avoided this whole
mess.
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.257bf0fc3...@news.buckeye-express.com...
So then it was a result of the time the tank went back a second time? And
again why should they? In their minds they did nothing wrong.
>
>
>"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:n7t2h5dlavoqh741n...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:35:57 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes what david koresh did was evil but using tactics like that and not
>>>allowing anyone to sleep...come on. Not in America the land of the free.
>>
>> "tactics like that" are non-lethal. It's a way of trying to make people
>> give up without have to shoot at them.
>>
>> So what you have here is evidence that the authorities tried to avoid
>> casualties.
>>
>I can't believe anyone would support those evil tactics. They were children
>there.
The alternative is storming the building, firing indiscriminately.
You would prefer that?
Sigh. One more try. Once it was past the point of shots being fired,
what would you have them do?
Why does keeping kids awake bother you so much? It's very strange, even
for you...
Once again Seon displays his inability to engage brain.
Harry K
It almost seems like he's so upset about the feds keeping kids awake
because maybe he was kept awake as punishment when he was a kid..
I really don't get why he's upset about it being done.
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I would prefer they did nothing. How would you like it if you were a child
and forced to listen tot he noise of a rabbit being killed or not being
allowed to sleep?
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
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Did they have a warrant? And I wouldn't let it get that far. I would have
arrested the child molester when he was in the community.
> Why does keeping kids awake bother you so much? It's very strange, even
> for you...
>
Because I know how it would feel and those are just not the kind of tactics
the "good guys" would use.
>
>
>"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:02:49 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:35:57 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes what david koresh did was evil but using tactics like that and not
>>>>>allowing anyone to sleep...come on. Not in America the land of the free.
>>>>
>>>> "tactics like that" are non-lethal. It's a way of trying to make people
>>>> give up without have to shoot at them.
>>>>
>>>> So what you have here is evidence that the authorities tried to avoid
>>>> casualties.
>>>>
>>>I can't believe anyone would support those evil tactics. They were
>>>children
>>>there.
>>
>> The alternative is storming the building, firing indiscriminately.
>>
>> You would prefer that?
>>
>I would prefer they did nothing. How would you like it if you were a child
>and forced to listen tot he noise of a rabbit being killed or not being
>allowed to sleep?
It might upset me. I might upset me so much that I give up and surrender to
the police. Surrendering to the police would be a good alternative to being
shot to death in the crossfire when they storm the place.
Just in case you haven't got it yet... upsetting people is what the sounds
were supposed to do. It's a non-lethal way of sapping peoples will to
fight. Shooting them is the lethal way to achieve the same thing.
To arrest him? Yeah, they did.
> And I wouldn't let it get that far. I would have
> arrested the child molester when he was in the community.
Noting bad happens on Fergusworld, does it? It sounds like a magical
place, where no arrests ever go bad, no perp resists, and no kid is kept
awake past his bedtime, ever.
>
> > Why does keeping kids awake bother you so much? It's very strange, even
> > for you...
> >
> Because I know how it would feel and those are just not the kind of tactics
> the "good guys" would use.
So what should they have done? You don't seem to be able to come up with
anything else that's less damaging to those delicate little darlings.
The way you're reacting to the kids being kept awake is one of the
strangest things I've ever seen from you. I really don't understand it
at all. On a scale of one to ten, being kept awake is about a one.
"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yeah I'm sure your parents would allow you to walk out.
> Just in case you haven't got it yet... upsetting people is what the sounds
> were supposed to do. It's a non-lethal way of sapping peoples will to
> fight. Shooting them is the lethal way to achieve the same thing.
>
What about playing "these boots are made for walking?" obviously they wanted
to intimidate them. The mighty government vs just afew people who want to be
left alone (well one person wasn't innocent and the parents allowed their
kids to be molested by him)
It's happened many times where people take hostage, the kids get let
out, so why wouldn't the parents, if they had any sanity left (doubtful,
since they were following Koresh in the first place)would want their
kids safe.
>
> > Just in case you haven't got it yet... upsetting people is what the sounds
> > were supposed to do. It's a non-lethal way of sapping peoples will to
> > fight. Shooting them is the lethal way to achieve the same thing.
> >
> What about playing "these boots are made for walking?" obviously they wanted
> to intimidate them. The mighty government vs just afew people who want to be
> left alone (well one person wasn't innocent and the parents allowed their
> kids to be molested by him)
>
> > --
> > Shill #2
> >
> > I am not young enough to know everything.
> > Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
>
>
BWHAHAHAHAHAA! Wow, you've really gone over the top on this one. Not
exactly unexpected, but still really really weird.
And let the child abuse continue? Let a felon continue to defy the
law? As to your 'arrest him when he leaves' - it was tried, he didn't
leave and the opportunity did not arise.
Remember "engage brain"?
Harry K