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o n z o b

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Nov 29, 2009, 2:07:18 AM11/29/09
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This is the new "science"!

Orwell has been vindicated.

"The CRU is basically saying, 'Trust us'. So much for settling questions
and resolving debates with science,"

29 Nov 2009

"SCIENTISTS" at the University of

East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature
data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said
to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.

The UEA's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss
following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then
adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The
revised figures were kept, but the originals - stored on paper and magnetic
tape - were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.

The admission follows the leaking of a thousand private emails sent and
received by Professor Phil Jones, the CRU's director. In them he discusses
thwarting climate sceptics seeking access to such data.

In a statement on its website, the CRU said: "We do not hold the original
raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised)
data."

The CRU is the world's leading centre for reconstructing past climate and
temperatures. Climate change sceptics have long been keen to examine exactly
how its data were compiled. That is now impossible.

Roger Pielke, professor of environmental studies at Colorado University,
discovered data had been lost when he asked for original records. "The CRU
is basically saying, 'Trust us'. So much for settling questions and
resolving debates with science," he said.

Jones was not in charge of the CRU when the data were thrown away in the
1980s, a time when climate change was seen as a less pressing issue. The
lost material was used to build the databases that have been his life's
work, showing how the world has warmed by 0.8�C over the past 157 years.

He and his colleagues say this temperature rise is "unequivocally" linked to
greenhouse gas emissions generated by humans.

Their findings are one of the main pieces of evidence used by the IPCC,
which says global warming is a threat to humanity.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece

Warmest Regards

B0n oz

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville


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Nov 29, 2009, 10:25:46 AM11/29/09
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:07:18 +1100, "o n z o b" <o...@p.com> wrote:

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>East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature
>data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
>

That's because organizations that collect and supply temperature data
often do it on a commercial basis, so to protect their raw data from
piracy they apply copyright.

That automatically means that UEA did not have the right to supply the
raw data to others. Also UEA would have a duty to destroy the data if
there was any chance of it being illegally copied.

>
>It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said
>to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
>

That is not true. The raw data would still be available from the
organizations that collected it.

>The UEA's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss
>following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
>

>The data were gathered from weather stations around the world...
>
which would still have it.

So academics who want the raw data, would just have to pay and sign
agreements with the organizations concerned, as UEA did.


Surfer


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