Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
Warhol
quote:To be clear, let's get straight what NASA is claiming: While in
the last 30 years absolutely no country claims to have put any man or animal
more than 400 miles from the Earth, the Saturn V rocket, between 1969 and
1972, took men to the moon which is 240,000 miles away. Averaging over 3000
miles per hour, three days later they supposedly got into lunar orbit. Then,
part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts, descended, in a
vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar surface. They
collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in the moon's 250
degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then, the top part of
the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60 miles to dock
with the third man in the command module, and then they flew back another
240,000 miles to Earth.
http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
Any thoughts? (Look at the video - it is interesting!)
Would the cold war warrant bigger lies than the ones we hear today?
__________________
"They who have put out the peoples' eyes reproach them for their blindness."
-John Milton
Dave
rocket engine efficiency, rocket fuel energy density?
I thought the LEM would be interesting to do, but then I realized I
didn't have the necessary information.
Larry W. Jewell
>1.. I would like to know how the astronauts survived the Van Allen
>belts/solar radiation?
>
>
They didn't stay in the belt very long, and went through the thinest
part. So, minimal exposure. If you avoid direct sunshine you don't get
a sunburn.
>2.. The next question: As you know, Apollo had no computers/ Well, a
>calculator watch had more computing power than anything they had at that
>time............Today with all of our advanced technology - the space
>shuttle is landed by mission control from the ground. Why is that? You have
>super computers doing thousands of calculations per-sec.
>
>
The Appollo capusules had computers, computers that used the data
generated by mainframe computers back on earth.The smaller Appollo
computers didn't need word processing, video, mpgs, etc,. so it could
spend its time to guidance work.
See, not hard when you think about it. But you do have to think.
--
Contact me: larry w jewell @ hotmail . com (remove spaces, of course)
Mudd Bug
"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
>
> quote:To be clear, let's get straight what NASA is claiming: While in
> the last 30 years absolutely no country claims to have put any man or
> animal
> more than 400 miles from the Earth, the Saturn V rocket, between 1969 and
> 1972, took men to the moon which is 240,000 miles away. Averaging over
> 3000
> miles per hour, three days later they supposedly got into lunar orbit.
> Then,
> part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts, descended, in a
> vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar surface. They
> collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in the moon's 250
> degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then, the top part of
> the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60 miles to dock
> with the third man in the command module, and then they flew back another
> 240,000 miles to Earth.
>
> http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
The answer is easy, ............. > funding.
Oh, but the way, they are correct, the Saturn 5 never did go to the moon,
never was designed to go to the moon.
It put two smaller space crafts into Earth orbit, these are the ones that
went to the moon and back.
Warhol
"Dave" <dwic...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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I have no idea and I don't care
I did like the girl though
Sky King
> Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
>
> quote:To be clear, let's get straight what NASA is claiming: While in
> the last 30 years absolutely no country claims to have put any man or animal
> more than 400 miles from the Earth, the Saturn V rocket, between 1969 and
> 1972, took men to the moon which is 240,000 miles away. Averaging over 3000
> miles per hour, three days later they supposedly got into lunar orbit. Then,
> part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts, descended, in a
> vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar surface. They
> collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in the moon's 250
> degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then, the top part of
> the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60 miles to dock
> with the third man in the command module, and then they flew back another
> 240,000 miles to Earth.
>
> http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
>
> Any thoughts? (Look at the video - it is interesting!)
Yup.
Nice college fraternity spoof. I wonder who got the girl.
Who conned you into posting that silliness, Warthog?
Warhol
"Tommy" <127....@127.0.0.1> a écrit dans le message de news:
7251598.HdTSMX62Sb@FreeBSD...
> Warhol wrote:
>
> > Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
> >
> > quote:To be clear, let's get straight what NASA is claiming: While
in
> > the last 30 years absolutely no country claims to have put any man or
> > animal more than 400 miles from the Earth, the Saturn V rocket, between
> > 1969 and 1972, took men to the moon which is 240,000 miles away.
Averaging
> > over 3000 miles per hour, three days later they supposedly got into
lunar
> > orbit. Then, part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts,
> > descended, in a vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar
> > surface. They collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in
the
> > moon's 250 degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then,
the
> > top part of the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60
> > miles to dock with the third man in the command module, and then they
flew
> > back another 240,000 miles to Earth.
> >
> > http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
> >
> > Any thoughts? (Look at the video - it is interesting!
>
> belts/solar radiation?
>
>
> calculator watch had more computing power than anything they had at that
> time............Today with all of our advanced technology - the space
> shuttle is landed by mission control from the ground. Why is that? You
have
> super computers doing thousands of calculations per-sec.
>
> orbital speed as well as drag and thrust, circular orbit, radius of orbit,
> radius of earth & centripetal acceleration and all of these circular orbit
> velocity equations on pen & paper? Imagine that, they worked out
> calculations on paper that the average computer can't do, even the space
> shuttle can't do the math that these guys did on pen and paper.
>
>
It is reality...
Many claim it was staged in a movie theatre and never happened.
I went to the Science museum in Kensington in England.
They have a model of the Lunar Lander there. It does not seem to have any
fuel tanks.
Hmm..... yep all staged in Hollywood
The moon landing was faked in a swimming pool located in a NASA hangar on a
secret base.
That's what some here have said. If you search, you'll find a thread
containing a lot of posts specifying how America faked it all.
Other things that, according to this crowd, "never happened" include;
1. The telephone, automobile, computer, certain medicines, various
technological breakthroughs and any other invention were actually conceived
and produced outside America. All claims of U.S. ingenuity are false.
Everything was designed overseas.
2. America did not save other nations in WWI and II. The occupied countries
were doing fine on their own and would have whipped the Krauts and Japs even
if America hadn't intervened.
3. Any other positive achievement that can attributed to America is a lie.
Sorry guys, couldn't resist.
Does anyone have some pictures with Russian Cosmonauts on the moon.....oh
yea I forgot they never made it. Never mind. Couldn't resist.
See, Warhol knows the truth.
Hahahahahaha
Spidah
As intriguing as it is, landing hoax theory has some major flaws in it.
Firstly why didn't the Russians expose the fraud. If the astronauts remained
in low earth orbit the Russians would have know the transmissions weren't
coming from the moon. The site suggests the Russians were afraid of
triggering a nuclear war. I doubt that would have happened. Besides the
turmoil in the US that would have resulted from exposing such a hoax would
probably had some significant benefits for the communists on the Vietnam
front.
Also, for some reason the moon hoax claims all seem to ignore Apollo 13. The
the hoax theorists are right then Apollo 13 must have been in earth orbit
for the duration of their ordeal. What if they hadn't made it back? If the
Apollo 13 crew had died after being forced to remain in a badly damaged
ship, in orbit, long enough to proctect the hoax how many people would have
still been willing to keep quite. Why hasn't anyway spoken out anyway?
Would NASA really have risked the potential ramifications of something going
wrong by risking such a hoax, especally with the Vietnam issue already
making people mad?
Also if the moon landings were faked, then hundreds if not thousands of
people must know about it. Is it really believeable that so many people have
remained silent for so long?
Katipo
Warhol
"Larry W. Jewell" <larry_no_w_...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le
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Yanks still believe in their little Moon fantasy?
Though I was only 7 years old at the time... 20 July 1969 Apollo 11 Lands On
The Moon...
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo11info.html
Wow, the US got man to the moon. Precisely what did it actually achieve, bar
propaganda?
Well, they did get a bunch of rocks from the moon. Made lots of money
selling them too.
They started a new craze, moon walking, something Michal Jackson
perfected.LOL
Otherwise, they burnt an awful lot of fuel for nothing. But it was exciting
to watch just the same. The rockets, equipment and engineers that put
American footprints on lunar soil have long been lost, junked or retired.
It's not all lost ... yet
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/theghoax.htm
They cannot fly to the space station at present.
I do not doubt for a second that the whole thing was a hoax from begining to
the end.!!
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
Hollywood always up to no good.
if i may point out some key facts during the production of Moon Landing in
1969.
Thanks to and Russki friends, Sputnik II or III cant remember took a photo
of Nevada desert, on the outskirts of Area 51.
They compared this with the Moon landing area on the moon, and guess what?
100% identical comparison.
And the speed that the astronauts walked on the moon, if you divide it by
2... its exactly like we walk on earth.
And how come the flag was fluttering when there is no air in space?
Maybe its just because the American flag wants to flutter on every corner of
Earth and Space?
A man, i am not quite sure of his name... prepared a report of 'illigal
activities against NASA. A week before he was to go to court, he went to
Seattle, Washington to recouporate before the big trial.
Guess what?
When he was out hunting, he commited suicide with his Rifle.
and same time in Boston, his 2 story townhouse blew up along with his whole
family inside.
This 'Moon Landing Hoax' is more endorsed by the Americans than it is by the
rest of the world. It dosnt just show the theory that the yanks never went
to the moon, it also shows the lack of democracy in the USA.
Roger Coppock
THERE ARE NO DETAILED PLANS FOR THE LEM, ANYWHERE.
THERE IS BARELY ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE DIME
STORE PLASTIC MODELS OF THE LEM. Can you say fantasy
boys and girls? I new you could!
Warhol
"Mudd Bug" <mud...@cox.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Of course there is wind in space. I heard it in Alien.
Both the Russians and Americans blew and wasted way too much money on their
mostly idiotic space toys. That's why you have laughable Ant Farm type
"scientific" experiments conducted on their overblown budgeted space
stations and through American and Russian wasted taxpayers money. The
International space station program is a big fat joke too.
I was one of the cameramen on the fake moon lighting.
It went like this: We filmed the whole thing in Arizona. It was in the can
and ready to go. Ahead of schedule.
Then a fire swept thru the building and destroyed all the film.
We had to send Armstrong and co. up to the moon for a reshoot. It takes
months and months to do it on earth, and its far more difficult to make it
look "real" here. Also the lighting is a real problem. There were major
depth of field problems you just don't have on the moon.
When all the film and pics came back from the moon, we were shattered. It
was such a poor quality compared to the Arizona shooting. But it was all we
had.
I hope this answers a few of those nagging questions you had.
it is not a fact, it's an untruth.
the flag was held out from the pole by fixed means, it was designed that way
for visibility, you know, so it wouldnt just hang there draping the pole.
unbelievable that they would have thought of that huh ?
but then again, i also saw a shuttle landing once
it came hurtling out of the sky like a fast pitch, but then just came right
on in and landed.
lensman1955
<stuff snipped>
> I do not doubt for a second that the whole thing was a hoax from begining to
> the end.!!
>
> http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
>
> Hollywood always up to no good.
>
> if i may point out some key facts during the production of Moon Landing in
> 1969.
>
> Thanks to and Russki friends, Sputnik II or III cant remember took a photo
> of Nevada desert, on the outskirts of Area 51.
>
> They compared this with the Moon landing area on the moon, and guess what?
> 100% identical comparison.
You have a link?
>
> And the speed that the astronauts walked on the moon, if you divide it by
> 2... its exactly like we walk on earth.
>
> And how come the flag was fluttering when there is no air in space?
> Maybe its just because the American flag wants to flutter on every corner of
> Earth and Space?
Show me a clip of the flag fluttering! I've seen clips of the Apollo
astronauts leaping around the flag and it NOT moving. It moves in two
situations. One, when one of the astronauts handles the pole and two,
when the camera is on the flag as the LEM lifts off, the exhaust is
enough to flutter the flag. Show me another instance!
> This 'Moon Landing Hoax' is more endorsed by the Americans than it is by the
> rest of the world. It dosnt just show the theory that the yanks never went
> to the moon, it also shows the lack of democracy in the USA.
Facts aren't up for a vote. We went, several times. You can't prove
otherwise!
Larry W. Jewell
>Then what would be the radiation dose due to such fluxes, for the amount of
>time an astronaut crew would be exposed?
>
>
Remember,they're not out there in their raincoats., the command capsule
has radiation shielding .
>
>
>
>>The Appollo capusules had computers, computers that used the data
>>generated by mainframe computers back on earth.
>>
>>
>
>And just how did they communicate with these computers on earth?
>
>They used a faster-as-light system developed by that Italian guy, Marconi. For some, repeat some, changes, the crews got the "nouns" and "verbs" and entered them manually. It was those numbers that Apollo 13 waited for so nervously.
>
>
>>The smaller Appollo
>>computers didn't need word processing, video, mpgs, etc,. so it could
>>spend its time to guidance work.
>>
>>
>
>Those computers as you call them weren't able to do any guidance work. I
>tell ya what do; google scientific calculators and come back and tell us
>what year they came out in.
>
>
>
Hand-held scientific calculators are not space guiadance computers.
You're grasping at straws here, trying to find something to quibble
about..
Let's make it easy on you. Which was more likely? Hundreds of
thousands of people colluded to fake moon landings OR we went to the
moon? Which is more likely?
>
>
>>See, not hard when you think about it. But you do have to think.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Think? Don't believe everything you see on TV, nor should you take the word
>of the government.
>
>
>
As you can tell, I go a lot of thinking, but not in Narnia or Middleearth.
Warhol
This LUNATIC here ----- >"Sky King" finally LOST IT!!!!!!!
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha the American Lunatics are truly demented here . I
just might have laughed my Head off! Wow!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
What are you talking about "angles" ... Are you mad?
yea , the pictures are Hollywood quality
Now, you all stop your self-deluding rants about any pretense of being king.
And that's about it!
cheers my old Pirates, the Zogs will never defeat us!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Signed,
Your King.
__________________
But Under My Bed Lives Elvis
Warhol
"lensman1955" <lensm...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Did you even open the URLs I gave you? I didn't think so because they refute
each point you just made, Mr. American TV.
You have to be king of the goofballs,
Good grief, what more do y'all want besides being a prince......oh yea, I'll
get you a princess too and a motorcycle and a year's supply of your favorite
beverage.
My thumb is powerful, but also benevolent.
laugh people--.. laugh ha ha ha ha ha ha
----.
in early 1968, Mr. Kubrick was secretly approached by NASA officialswho
presented him with a lucrative offer to "direct" the first three moon
landings.
NASA leveraged their position by threatening to publicly reveal the heavy
involvement of Mr.
Kubrick's younger brother, Raul, with the American Communist Party. This
would have been an
intolerable embarrassment to Mr. Kubrick, especially since the release of
"Dr. Strangelove".
Kubrick finally relented, and for sixteen months he and a special effects
team -- led by Douglas
Trumbull -- worked in a specially-built sound stage in Huntsville, Alabama,
"creating" the first andsecond moon landings. This effort resulted in
hundreds of hours of 35mm and video "footage" of the Apollo 11 and 12 moon
missions. For more go to: -.
http://www.galactic-guide.com/articles/8S12.html
And we stick with IT----sorrrrry.
the Volkans did it, U know the guys with pointed ears from the planet
Volkan. E-mail captain Kerk he knows them well.
Warhol
"Larry W. Jewell" <larry_no_w_...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le
message de news: ddh23m$jm6$1...@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu...
>
>
>
> >Then what would be the radiation dose due to such fluxes, for the amount
of
> >time an astronaut crew would be exposed?
> >
> >
> Remember,they're not out there in their raincoats., the command capsule
> has radiation shielding .
>
Are you serious? If you wish to delude yourself I have no problem with that,
all I ask is that you do it elsewhere.
ha ha ha ha ha ha
I did not know you are such a moron! Tiny raincoats, yea, tiny radiation up
your arse!
> >
> >
> >
> >>The Appollo capusules had computers, computers that used the data
> >>generated by mainframe computers back on earth.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >And just how did they communicate with these computers on earth?
> >
> >They used a faster-as-light system developed by that Italian guy,
Marconi. For some, repeat some, changes, the crews got the "nouns" and
"verbs" and entered them manually. It was those numbers that Apollo 13
waited for so nervously.
> >
> >
>
> >>The smaller Appollo
> >>computers didn't need word processing, video, mpgs, etc,. so it could
> >>spend its time to guidance work.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Those computers as you call them weren't able to do any guidance work. I
> >tell ya what do; google scientific calculators and come back and tell us
> >what year they came out in.
> >
> >
> >
> Hand-held scientific calculators are not space guiadance computers.
> You're grasping at straws here, trying to find something to quibble
> about..
>
> Let's make it easy on you. Which was more likely? Hundreds of
> thousands of people colluded to fake moon landings OR we went to the
> moon? Which is more likely?
>
"The Experts Agree, the Answer is 250,000 miles Away"
I like the "inverted umbrella like" antenna....., wow! Taken with out any
modification from Star Trek Deep Space 9.5"
Honorable is correct, the Aliens are compulsive "graffiti painters". I also
suspect them of stealing that American Flag.
I want to see the face of person who is lying to us.
that's all
> >
> >
> >>See, not hard when you think about it. But you do have to think.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Think? Don't believe everything you see on TV, nor should you take the
word
> >of the government.
> >
> >
> >
> As you can tell, I go a lot of thinking, but not in Narnia or Middleearth.
>
> --
by the way
the landing was fake, that was a nice Hollywood creation. Not the first and
not the last one
the inverted umbrella is something else
hahahahaha
Warhol
"Spidah" <hami...@eggstra.co.nz> a écrit dans le message de news:
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ZOG are working hand in hand.......
Were the lunar landings faked?
Friday September 13, 2002
The Guardian
In 1968, the film director Stanley Kubrick was secretly approached by Nasa
officials. They asked him to direct the
first three moon landings from a special set. As a result,
Kubrick worked for 16 months at a specially-built sound stage in Huntsville,
Alabama, creating footage of the Apollo
11 and 12 missions. In July 1969, a Saturn V rocket
with Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins on board was launched
into a low orbit and remained there
while Kubrick's footage was released to the media. The
three men made a perfect splash down in the Pacific after millions of
television viewers had been captivated by the
so-called moon landing. Months afterwards, he filmed
the Apollo 12 mission in the same way
This, at least, is the theory of an American called Great North Wind,
writing at www.galactic-guide.com, and you
have to admit it makes a great deal of sense. After all, as
many moon landing hoax theorists point out, Nasa had to do something.
American pride had been twice humbled -
by Yuri Gagarin in space and by Charlie Cong in Nam.
That said, there are holes in Great North Wind's theory. He continues:
"Kubrick refused to direct the Apollo 13
mission, however, because Nasa officials rejected his
screenplay in which the Apollo 13 mission fails. Ironically, Nasa later
decided to use the failed-mission scenario, for
which Randall Cunningham - a little known but highly
respected British director - was recruited to direct.
FOR MORE
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,791222,00.html
A NICE MOVIE, USA will never land on the moon . look at your drug aids
infested schools,
you need educated population not rap dancing punks!
duuuuuuuuuuuh
BUT OFCOURSE THE LANDING WAS FAKE, IF THEY LANDED THEN THEY WOULD BE ON THE
MOON TODAY SETTING UP A LUNAR BASE!
PEOPLE, THINK!
Douglas Berry
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.conspiracy beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
http://www.clavius.org/index.html
Didn't you just finish assuring us that the Shuttle was never going to
survive reentry, fool?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
Douglas Berry
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.conspiracy beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>You and everybody else doesn't have the information for the LEM.
Call the Smithsonian. The not only have the blueprints, they have the
LM that was supposed to be used on Apollo 18. On display. For the
public to see.
You can request an appointment to review the blueprints (there are
thousands of them) as well as the reams of memos, letters, and reports
produced by Grumman as they were building the LM.
Douglas Berry
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.conspiracy beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>Well, they did get a bunch of rocks from the moon. Made lots of money
>selling them too.
None of the lunar surface samples were sold. In fact, Congress passed
a law in 1972 making it a felony to sell a lunar surface sample.
>They started a new craze, moon walking, something Michal Jackson
>perfected.LOL
The last Apollo mission was in 1972. Michael Jackson first Moonwalked
in 1983. 11 years to start a fad?
Mr Bean
> Also if the moon landings were faked, then hundreds if not thousands of
> people must know about it. Is it really believeable that so many people have
> remained silent for so long?
Ask Kay Griggs.
That's one answer.
The cold war was the fake as well.
That's why Russians kept quiet about it.
And the third point.
Latest Columbia and Discovery are clear examples of how far NASA can go.
That's the best NASA can do and still have a lot of trouble with it.
If they would have ability to get to the moon, for Discovery it would be
a walk in the park.
Discovery hardly made it.
Pardon my English.
:)
Don Ocean
The LEM = Lunar excursion Module plans are available for a small
price from NASA or ROCKWELL SPACE DIVISION in Downey California.
Matter of fact a couple of LEM boilerplates still exist along with
a couple of plywood mockups that traveled the world being displayed
at Aeronatical and space shows.. Just about every major newspaper
in the world has pictures in their archives from the 1960's and 1970's
I understand one of the Mockups is in storage at Clear Lake, Texas NASA.
So Roger Poppycock...You really should do a couple of minutes of
searching before you advertise your massive ignorance by posting this crap!
>
Don Ocean
> Warhol wrote:
>
>
>>Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
>>
>> quote:To be clear, let's get straight what NASA is claiming: While in
>>the last 30 years absolutely no country claims to have put any man or
>>animal more than 400 miles from the Earth, the Saturn V rocket, between
>>1969 and 1972, took men to the moon which is 240,000 miles away. Averaging
>>over 3000 miles per hour, three days later they supposedly got into lunar
>>orbit. Then, part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts,
>>descended, in a vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar
>>surface. They collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in the
>>moon's 250 degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then, the
>>top part of the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60
>>miles to dock with the third man in the command module, and then they flew
>>back another 240,000 miles to Earth.
>>
>>http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
>>
>>Any thoughts? (Look at the video - it is interesting!
>
>
> belts/solar radiation?
They used it to charge up their batteries.. It also acts like Viagra..
Thats why the Astronauts wanted women on board for future trips.
>
>
> 2.. The next question: As you know, Apollo had no computers/ Well, a
> calculator watch had more computing power than anything they had at that
> time............Today with all of our advanced technology - the space
> shuttle is landed by mission control from the ground. Why is that? You have
> super computers doing thousands of calculations per-sec.
They had a fine onboard computer... I do wonder where you geniuses got
your education. We put fire control computers on ships in 1942. And
basically that is all that is needed. We had Eniac...Geniac and a
plethora of others before 1950. By 1954 we had computer battle plotters
no to mention statistics were being computed for Governemnt by then.
Did you forget that IBM had furnished computers to tally up
concentration camp statistics for the Germans and those records were
used at Nurenburgh? Did you forget that we designed and built the F111
and the XB-70(B1) during the same period of time that we were doing the
same with Apolo. Did you forget about Gemini and Mercury.. Both had
computers on board. And they were preApolo.
>
> Are we to believe that the crew of Apollo with a pen and paper worked out
> orbital speed as well as drag and thrust, circular orbit, radius of orbit,
> radius of earth & centripetal acceleration and all of these circular orbit
> velocity equations on pen & paper? Imagine that, they worked out
> calculations on paper that the average computer can't do, even the space
> shuttle can't do the math that these guys did on pen and paper.
They also had a computer Kneepad...It fit the right knee and also ran
microfische of the needed schematics and layouts for possible necessary
repairs. Do you really think we left anything to chance?
>
>
Roger Coppock
Roger Coppock
Good, so they are ready to fly to the Moon in these plywood mockups.
Say next week? Or are they plywood Fuck-ups?
Don Ocean
Why should you care..? Your inbred insanity has had you in space for
years. Buzz off!
lensman1955
I've always loved the argument just above your response. We are
expected to view ANYTHING the government did with suspicion and doubt.
But we are expected to take the word of conspiracy buffs concerning the
Apollo landings uncritically, no matter HOW often they've been
rebuffed!
(And does someone want to tell me what this thread has to do with half
the groups it was originally cross-posted to? I mean, parenting
solutions?)
lensman1955
Why, yes I did, bunkie! Again I see the astronaut adjusting the pole
and the flag swinging in relation to the adjustment of the pole. I see
no evidence of wind! Show me footage of the flag moving without anyone
touching it or the exhaust from the LEM.
>
> You have to be king of the goofballs,
>
No, I think it's pretty obvious to everyone here that you hold that
honor!
Fred Garvin
> Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
Kind of like your sex life huh?
Get a clue asshat.
>
--
PCs, like air-conditioners, are useless when you open Windows.
Larry W. Jewell
radiation shielding, that's your problem. Do it to whom you please.
Larry J
Warhol wrote:
--
Fred Garvin
>
>> See, not hard when you think about it. But you do have to think.
>>
>
> Think? Don't believe everything you see on TV, nor should you take the word
> of the government.
You just have to love the paranoid retards of the planet huh folks?!
--
Chris: "Dad, what's a blowhole for?"
Peter: "I'll tell you what it's NOT for and then you'll know why I can
never go back to Sea World."
Larry W. Jewell
give up to go to the moon? What local programs will be cut with your
blessings to get us there?
Roger Coppock wrote:
>Good, then when will they fly to the moon?
>
>
>
--
Douglas Berry
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.conspiracy beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>Good, then when will they fly to the moon?
Give them the budget, build a booster, and they could probably do it.
Larry W. Jewell
lensman1955 wrote:
>I've always loved the argument just above your response. We are
>expected to view ANYTHING the government did with suspicion and doubt.
>But we are expected to take the word of conspiracy buffs concerning the
>Apollo landings uncritically, no matter HOW often they've been
>rebuffed!
>
>
>
The point for the conspiracy nuts is simply to inject chaos in the
system. Their own heads are so mucked up that they can't walk a
straight line. So they want the rest of us to be as befuddled. Doesn't
work, of course, unless someone voluntarily surrenders their sanity.
The rest I leave to Penn and Teller.
Larry W. Jewell
(Phil's the guy who can still for a really long time on Penn and
Teller's BullShit No. 29.)
Moon Base Clavius: http://www.clavius.org/index.html
(Excellent site)
CSIOP Site: http://www.csicop.org/
(Committee for Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal)
They already debunked EVERYTHING, so they're good for a reality check
when you need it.
When the whackos pop up these sites will help you play "whack-a-mole"!
clifff...@yahoo.com
<snip>
> See, not hard when you think about it. But you do have to think.
But you're expecting them to think about things they have no knowledge
of.
This clown is probably a white guy under age 35, I'd guess. He was
spoon-fed
by crude leftists, swallowed every morsel, and feels perfectly sane
with this inane spew. I can remember when the only people who doubted
the Apollo Lunar landings were some ignorant blacks, and a very few
white wackos. The left has worked absolute wonders with some of
our youth. These guys are gonna take us to the stars!
--
Cliff
Danzig Sheeple
"Fred Garvin" <ga...@elaborate.net> wrote in message
news:200508120757487987%garv@elaboratenet...
> On 2005-08-11 15:59:00 -0400, "Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
>
>
> Kind of like your sex life huh?
>
> Get a clue asshat.
>
attacking the messenger instead of addressing the issue. who's really the
asshat? whatever that is...
Roger Coppock
but it makes a good prop to fake a moon trip.
Real moon going hardware will cost money to design,
because there hasn't been any desinged before.
Roger Coppock
Larry W. Jewell
versus reality. So sad. Did you make a conscious decision to live in a
fantasty world or did you slide into dementia without even noticing?
Roger Coppock wrote:
--
Roger Coppock
Your ETA at the Moon is?
There is "Tons of proof" that the Brahmins
flew to the moon many times in their Varmas.
Why, there are even thoroughly documented plans!
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/vs/index.htm
Funny, just like NASA, the Hindus can't return to
the moon today either. Just like LEMs, Varmas
are fantasies. They only exist in museums and
plywood mock-ups.
sharky
> Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
>
http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/%7Eakapadia/moon.html
http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/moonlandinghoax.html
Mike Rosenberg
> Let's make it easy on you. Which was more likely? Hundreds of
> thousands of people colluded to fake moon landings OR we went to the
> moon? Which is more likely?
Oh, don't expect logic to work on Tommy. I once asked him to explain
why, during the height of the Cold War, didn't the Soviets expose the
fraud, since surely they would have known it was a fraud and would
certainly have done anything to discredit the USA. Tommy's response?
Not a word. He stopped posted in that thread entirely. That's his
way--when presented with questions he can't handle, he disappears.
--
Mike Rosenberg
<http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida
<http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart
Toyota Prius fans: Check out alt.autos.toyota.prius
Larry W. Jewell
Roger Coppock wrote:
--
Larry W. Jewell
disorder. They can't tell when they've passed into fantasy and so have
no way to finding their way back. The smarter one stay undercover, the
really bad ones go on TV shows and try to relate leaf blowers to rock
engines.
Mike Rosenberg wrote:
>Larry W. Jewell <larry_no_w_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Let's make it easy on you. Which was more likely? Hundreds of
>>thousands of people colluded to fake moon landings OR we went to the
>>moon? Which is more likely?
>>
>>
>
>Oh, don't expect logic to work on Tommy. I once asked him to explain
>why, during the height of the Cold War, didn't the Soviets expose the
>fraud, since surely they would have known it was a fraud and would
>certainly have done anything to discredit the USA. Tommy's response?
>Not a word. He stopped posted in that thread entirely. That's his
>way--when presented with questions he can't handle, he disappears.
>
>
>
--
Cmdr Buzz corey
>>>
> Good, so they are ready to fly to the Moon in these plywood mockups.
> Say next week? Or are they plywood Fuck-ups?
Lets see now. We were in a space race for bragging rights with the
Russians to get to the moon. Now if we faked it, with all the
technology available, the Russians could have easily detected that we
did not have spacecraft on the way to the moon and land men there, and
they would have been overjoyed to let the rest of the world know we were
faking it. Yet there was not a peep from the Russians nor from any of
several other countries that could easily verify the fact. In fact,
after we did it, the Russians gave up on their efforts.
The stupidity of the looney conspiracy nuts is simply astronomical.
Parsifal
*spoon-fed by crude leftists
What have "left" or "right" to do with that?
Gee Cliff, go out a little, talk to real people...
Stop seeing the world in black and white...
Get a life...
Roger Coppock
Cmdr Buzz corey
> Hardly an answer. I win this debate.
>
The only thing you have won is the prize for stupidity.
Larry W. Jewell
statement, but Poppycock is impervious to logic and reason, so don't get
your hopes up. Poppycock is really here to get somebody to respond to
him, so he'll know he's alive. It really is that bad for him.
So, you can do mental pushups off him, but in the end the barbells
aren't going to be any closer to the door. Expect no progress or
admission of understanding.
G'Luck
Larry J
Cmdr Buzz corey wrote:
Cmdr Buzz corey
> Cmdr, you may think you've responded to Little Mr. Poppycock in a killer
> statement, but Poppycock is impervious to logic and reason, so don't get
> your hopes up. Poppycock is really here to get somebody to respond to
> him, so he'll know he's alive. It really is that bad for him.
>
> So, you can do mental pushups off him, but in the end the barbells
> aren't going to be any closer to the door. Expect no progress or
> admission of understanding.
>
> G'Luck
> Larry J
I know, he is probably the same idiot that posted forever about 9/11 all
being a conspiracy.
Roger Coppock
Buzz and Larry can't debate. Anyone out there willing
to do battle?
Larry W. Jewell
Larry J
Roger Coppock wrote:
--
Douglas Berry
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.conspiracy beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>A plywood mock up or a museum piece can't go to the moon,
>but it makes a good prop to fake a moon trip.
Perhaps whoever is reading this too you skipped a line. The
Smithsonian has the Lunar Module that was supposed to fly on Apollo
18. Not a mock up, but the actual vessel.
>Real moon going hardware will cost money to design,
>because there hasn't been any desinged before.
Care to review the budgets for Apollo 1965-1972? Hundreds of
contractors produced designs and finished equipment. The money trail
is clear, all the way down to procurement by subcontractors.
lensman1955
Or "black" or "white" for that matter. The rest of his post was that
only "ignorant blacks and a few wacko whites" used to believe in the
moon-hoax.
lensman1955
Roger Coppock wrote:
> Hardly an answer. I win this debate.
Only in the dusty recesses of your own mind!
Roger Coppock
Lunitics can't argue facts.
There are no facts in a fantasy moon trip.
Roger Coppock
but its not to late. The Justice Department could
open a grand jury next week.
ORVAL FAIRAIRN
Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:
> Roger Coppock wrote:
> > You and everybody else doesn't have the information for the LEM.
> > THERE ARE NO DETAILED PLANS FOR THE LEM, ANYWHERE.
> > THERE IS BARELY ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE DIME
> > STORE PLASTIC MODELS OF THE LEM. Can you say fantasy
> > boys and girls? I new you could!
>
> The LEM = Lunar excursion Module plans are available for a small
> price from NASA or ROCKWELL SPACE DIVISION in Downey California.
> Matter of fact a couple of LEM boilerplates still exist along with
> a couple of plywood mockups that traveled the world being displayed
> at Aeronatical and space shows.. Just about every major newspaper
> in the world has pictures in their archives from the 1960's and 1970's
> I understand one of the Mockups is in storage at Clear Lake, Texas NASA.
> So Roger Poppycock...You really should do a couple of minutes of
> searching before you advertise your massive ignorance by posting this crap!
>
> >
Grumman (now Northrop-Grumman) built the LM (not LEM). It consisted of a
Landing Module and Return module. The Landing Module was left on the
lunar surface.
Boeing built the Saturn V first stage and served as general systems
integrator for the booster.
North American (later Rockwell, now part of Boeing) built the S-II stage.
Douglas (later McDonnell-Douglas, now part of Boeing) built the S0IVB
stage.
IBM built the Instrumentation Unit (IU), which contained all the booster
guidance and telemetry. It was advanced technology by 1960s standards,
but primitive by today's standards.
North American built the Service Module and Command Module (SM and CM),
which served as the primary spacecraft for transit to and from lunar
orbit. The CM was shielded against Van Allen Belt radiation.
BTW, the reason that the flags stand out on the moon is that they have
stiffening rods extending from their flagpoles.
I was involved in guidance and performance analysis for the boost phase.
The "moon hoax" fools are living in a fantasy world, but no amount of
facts will bring them into reality.
R. Steve Walz
>
> Warhol wrote:
>
> > Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
> >
> > the last 30 years absolutely no country claims to have put any man or
> > animal more than 400 miles from the Earth, the Saturn V rocket, between
> > 1969 and 1972, took men to the moon which is 240,000 miles away. Averaging
> > over 3000 miles per hour, three days later they supposedly got into lunar
> > orbit. Then, part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts,
> > descended, in a vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar
> > surface. They collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in the
> > moon's 250 degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then, the
> > top part of the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60
> > miles to dock with the third man in the command module, and then they flew
> > back another 240,000 miles to Earth.
> >
> > http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
> >
> > Any thoughts? (Look at the video - it is interesting!
>
> 1.. I would like to know how the astronauts survived the Van Allen
> belts/solar radiation?
--------------------
The biggest factor in dosage is duration. And solar radiation outside
the VA belts in the absence of solar flare is not dangerous.
> 2.. The next question: As you know, Apollo had no computers
-----------------
WRONGO! The AGC was the first portable electronic digital computer.
(AGC = Apollo Guidance Computer).
> Well, a
> calculator watch had more computing power than anything they had at that
> time............Today with all of our advanced technology - the space
> shuttle is landed by mission control from the ground.
------------------
No, the shuttle computer picks up the TACAN signals for landing is all.
It also has inertial guidance internal if the TACAN fails.
> Why is that? You have
> super computers doing thousands of calculations per-sec.
--------------------
What is your question? It sounds like you're just stupid.
> Are we to believe that the crew of Apollo with a pen and paper worked out
> orbital speed as well as drag and thrust, circular orbit, radius of orbit,
> radius of earth & centripetal acceleration and all of these circular orbit
> velocity equations on pen & paper? Imagine that, they worked out
> calculations on paper that the average computer can't do, even the space
> shuttle can't do the math that these guys did on pen and paper.
---------------------------
Actually, they did. The math for most simple orbital alterations just
isn't that hard, if you've taken the physics courses. The apogee and
perigee of an orbit can be worked out from kinetic and potential
energies, the equations are simple algebra. But the AGC did some
very elaborate calculations on a real time basis during moon landing
using the landing radar.
It wasn't needed for the lunar orbital missions, and in fact was
not on two of them. Do you know what the third was (inadvertantly)?
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Larry W. Jewell wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >>1.. I would like to know how the astronauts survived the Van Allen
> >>belts/solar radiation?
> >>
> >>
> > part. So, minimal exposure. If you avoid direct sunshine you don't get
> > a sunburn.
>
> Then what would be the radiation dose due to such fluxes, for the amount of
> time an astronaut crew would be exposed?
-------------------------
At 25,000 mph, their fastest speed, not long.
> >>2.. The next question: As you know, Apollo had no computers/ Well, a
> >>calculator watch had more computing power than anything they had at that
> >>time............Today with all of our advanced technology - the space
> >>have super computers doing thousands of calculations per-sec.
> >>
> >>
> > generated by mainframe computers back on earth.
>
> And just how did they communicate with these computers on earth?
-------------------------------
Duh, radio-telemetry?
> > The smaller Appollo
> > computers didn't need word processing, video, mpgs, etc,. so it could
> > spend its time to guidance work.
>
> Those computers as you call them weren't able to do any guidance work.
-------------------------------
Nonsense. Go look at the people who have rebuilt models of the AGC
and given complete plans on their website. The built-in programs
of the Apollo Guidance Computer were for "Guidance", you numb-nuts.
> I
> tell ya what do; google scientific calculators and come back and tell us
> what year they came out in.
----------------------------
You mean ones everyone could afford that didn't weigh 50 pounds like
the Apollo Guidance Computer.
About 1974. They were perfected BECAUSE of the demand for such in
the Apollo ventures of 1965-1977. The AGC was the first such to use
digital gate ICs, namely a huge number of triple three-input NOR
gates. The first one *I* could afford was in 1976 and cost $85 and
would only do powers, roots and logs, no trig functions. I still
used my slide rule for a lot of calculations in physics class.
> > See, not hard when you think about it. But you do have to think.
> >
>
> Think? Don't believe everything you see on TV, nor should you take the word
> of the government.
--------------------------
This was thousands of people, you moron. You have an overly-inflated
notion of the power of government to deceive. It's a lot harder than
that because of the enormous number of people involved.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> >Then what would be the radiation dose due to such fluxes, for the amount of
> >time an astronaut crew would be exposed?
> >
> >
> has radiation shielding .
------------------------
Not nearly enough. It's about 3.8" aluminum.
> >>The Appollo capusules had computers, computers that used the data
> >>generated by mainframe computers back on earth.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >And just how did they communicate with these computers on earth?
> >
> >They used a faster-as-light system developed by that Italian guy, Marconi. For some, repeat some, changes, the crews got the "nouns" and "verbs" and entered them manually. It was those numbers that Apollo 13 waited for so nervously.
-------------
Yup.
> >>The smaller Appollo
> >>computers didn't need word processing, video, mpgs, etc,. so it could
> >>spend its time to guidance work.
-----------------
Yup, nor did it have Windows. It had a 7-segment display.
> >Those computers as you call them weren't able to do any guidance work. I
> >tell ya what do; google scientific calculators and come back and tell us
> >what year they came out in.
> >
> Hand-held scientific calculators are not space guiadance computers.
---------------------------------
No, but they could be reprogrammed for that to emulate the AGC.
They Do have enough power.
> You're grasping at straws here, trying to find something to quibble
> about..
>
> Let's make it easy on you. Which was more likely? Hundreds of
> thousands of people colluded to fake moon landings OR we went to the
> moon? Which is more likely?
-------------------------------
Since thousands of people saw them get onboard and launch, and heard
their voices from the moon with directional antennas...
Steve
> >>See, not hard when you think about it. But you do have to think.
> >>
> >
> >Think? Don't believe everything you see on TV, nor should you take the word
> >of the government.
> >
> As you can tell, I go a lot of thinking, but not in Narnia or Middleearth.
R. Steve Walz
Oh it has a lot to do with it. Leftists aren't known for a paranoia
of government. Rightists are. Leftists don't doubt the moonlandings.
Far Rightist cranks do.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> "Tommy" <127....@127.0.0.1> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 7251598.HdTSMX62Sb@FreeBSD...
> > Warhol wrote:
> >
> > > Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
> > >
> > > quote:To be clear, let's get straight what NASA is claiming: While
> in
> > > the last 30 years absolutely no country claims to have put any man or
> > > animal more than 400 miles from the Earth, the Saturn V rocket, between
> > > 1969 and 1972, took men to the moon which is 240,000 miles away.
> Averaging
> > > over 3000 miles per hour, three days later they supposedly got into
> lunar
> > > orbit. Then, part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts,
> > > descended, in a vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar
> > > surface. They collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in
> the
> > > moon's 250 degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then,
> the
> > > top part of the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60
> > > miles to dock with the third man in the command module, and then they
> flew
> > > back another 240,000 miles to Earth.
> > >
> > > http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
> > >
> > > Any thoughts? (Look at the video - it is interesting!
> >
> > belts/solar radiation?
> >
> >
> > calculator watch had more computing power than anything they had at that
> > time............Today with all of our advanced technology - the space
> > shuttle is landed by mission control from the ground. Why is that? You
> have
> > super computers doing thousands of calculations per-sec.
> >
> > orbital speed as well as drag and thrust, circular orbit, radius of orbit,
> > radius of earth & centripetal acceleration and all of these circular orbit
> > velocity equations on pen & paper? Imagine that, they worked out
> > calculations on paper that the average computer can't do, even the space
> > shuttle can't do the math that these guys did on pen and paper.
> >
> >
>
>
> Many claim it was staged in a movie theatre and never happened.
>
> I went to the Science museum in Kensington in England.
>
> They have a model of the Lunar Lander there. It does not seem to have any
> fuel tanks.
-----------------------------
You need to look under the landing gear frame, the four spheres.
It doesn't take that much to land on the moon with 1/6th gravity.
> Hmm..... yep all staged in Hollywood
>
> The moon landing was faked in a swimming pool located in a NASA hangar on a
> secret base.
>
> That's what some here have said. If you search, you'll find a thread
> containing a lot of posts specifying how America faked it all.
>
> Other things that, according to this crowd, "never happened" include;
>
> 1. The telephone, automobile, computer, certain medicines, various
> technological breakthroughs and any other invention were actually conceived
> and produced outside America. All claims of U.S. ingenuity are false.
> Everything was designed overseas.
-----------------------------
Where do you get this shit? A few things were invented by multiple
inventors at nearly the same time, but if you examine the broad
claims, they are all correct, pay attention to the details about
what is claimed and it makes more sense.
> 2. America did not save other nations in WWI and II. The occupied countries
> were doing fine on their own and would have whipped the Krauts and Japs even
> if America hadn't intervened.
--------------------------------
Now THAT'S just plain SILLY!
> 3. Any other positive achievement that can attributed to America is a lie.
>
> Sorry guys, couldn't resist.
>
> Does anyone have some pictures with Russian Cosmonauts on the moon.....oh
> yea I forgot they never made it. Never mind. Couldn't resist.
>
> See, Warhol knows the truth.
>
> Hahahahahaha
--------------------
WOW, glad you're not crazy.
Steve
lensman1955
There are no facts in anything you've posted on this thread!
R. Steve Walz
>
> Apollo Moon Landings Are Pure Fantasy
>
> quote:To be clear, let's get straight what NASA is claiming: While in
> the last 30 years absolutely no country claims to have put any man or animal
> more than 400 miles from the Earth, the Saturn V rocket, between 1969 and
> 1972, took men to the moon which is 240,000 miles away.
Once you're in orbit, it takes less than another 1/8th as much fuel to
increase speed to fast enough to coast to the moon and back. The vast
majority of fuel is needed to push the atmosphere aside at near
orbital velocity.
> Averaging over 3000
> miles per hour, three days later they supposedly got into lunar orbit. Then,
> part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts, descended, in a
> vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar surface. They
> collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in the moon's 250
> degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then, the top part of
> the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60 miles to dock
> with the third man in the command module, and then they flew back another
> 240,000 miles to Earth.
>
> http://www.moonmovie.com/moonmovie/
>
> Any thoughts? (Look at the video - it is interesting!)
>
> Would the cold war warrant bigger lies than the ones we hear today?
------------------------------
It all happened, the Saturn V is a third bigger than annything else
we've ever launched. Ever noticed that? Hmm?
Steve
dre
> part of the craft, containing two of the three astronauts, descended, in a
> vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar surface. They
> collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in the moon's 250
> degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then, the top part of
> the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60 miles to dock
> with the third man in the command module, and then they flew back another
> 240,000 miles to Earth.
so if it was fake,why don't they visit the moon regurly then?
it's so easy to make such a visit if your right is it not?
what a pr stunt would it be is it not?
3 times a year to the moon and mars!
build a moon base and mars base!
it's so easy! nasa only needs a studio ,a few technicians,few
astronauts,and voila!
but there is no moon base movie !? or even apollo 21-23-24-25-26-27
etc...... is nasa stupid?
why stop?
explain!!!!!
dre
"Roger Coppock" <rcop...@adnc.com> schreef in bericht
news:1123902624.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> And a third victory.
>
> Lunitics can't argue facts.
> There are no facts in a fantasy moon trip.
>
they must have known it was "fake" they tracket the landers to the moon and
knew they were beaten...they were the enemy,they would take any opportunity
to raise hell.
radio amateurs did this also
Don Ocean
> In article <3m2u2gF...@individual.net>,
> Don Ocean <oc...@amerion.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Roger Coppock wrote:
>>
>>>You and everybody else doesn't have the information for the LEM.
>>>THERE ARE NO DETAILED PLANS FOR THE LEM, ANYWHERE.
>>>THERE IS BARELY ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE DIME
>>>STORE PLASTIC MODELS OF THE LEM. Can you say fantasy
>>>boys and girls? I new you could!
>>
>>The LEM = Lunar excursion Module plans are available for a small
>>price from NASA or ROCKWELL SPACE DIVISION in Downey California.
>>Matter of fact a couple of LEM boilerplates still exist along with
>>a couple of plywood mockups that traveled the world being displayed
>>at Aeronatical and space shows.. Just about every major newspaper
>>in the world has pictures in their archives from the 1960's and 1970's
>>I understand one of the Mockups is in storage at Clear Lake, Texas NASA.
>>So Roger Poppycock...You really should do a couple of minutes of
>>searching before you advertise your massive ignorance by posting this crap!
>>
>>
>
> Grumman (now Northrop-Grumman) built the LM (not LEM).
It was called the Lunar Excursion Module! I loaded the mockup
of it with Alderson Anthropomorphic dummies for both prehuman
testing and for dispaly in London, Paris, Berlin and a couple of
dozen other locations. We had a test unit that half-asstronauts
flew down in the Texas big bend country. It was quite a bit different
then the unit for the moon. Our practice docking facility was
a unit on airpads floating on polished terrazo in building 5 Downey
Calif. All that came back from the moon was the command module carrying
3 astronauts. Go to NASA's web site and pull down the videos
of the quarantine process when it landed and of the radiation level
charts... plus the samples and the testing of such.
It consisted of a
> Landing Module and Return module. The Landing Module was left on the
> lunar surface.
>
> Boeing built the Saturn V first stage and served as general systems
> integrator for the booster.
>
> North American (later Rockwell, now part of Boeing) built the S-II stage.
>
> Douglas (later McDonnell-Douglas, now part of Boeing) built the S0IVB
> stage.
>
> IBM built the Instrumentation Unit (IU), which contained all the booster
> guidance and telemetry. It was advanced technology by 1960s standards,
> but primitive by today's standards.
>
> North American built the Service Module and Command Module (SM and CM),
> which served as the primary spacecraft for transit to and from lunar
> orbit. The CM was shielded against Van Allen Belt radiation.
>
> BTW, the reason that the flags stand out on the moon is that they have
> stiffening rods extending from their flagpoles.
>
> I was involved in guidance and performance analysis for the boost phase.
> The "moon hoax" fools are living in a fantasy world, but no amount of
> facts will bring them into reality.
If you wish to get technical...Every state was involved in that project!
North American Aviation was the Prime contractor and everything
done,built etc is in their archives or in Nasa's Archive.
North American Aviation became North American Rockwell and then just
Rockwell. But the Research center for the entire project was Space
division of North American Aviation, Downey California ..Lakewood blvd.
That project served 2 purposes... One to advance space research and
two..to provide jobs to every state in the union.. It was a pork barrel
project with good goals. I was saddened when it became necessary to
turn our attention away from space research and to the Nixon
administrations goals of rebuilding America's technical infrastructure
utilizing the massive expertise from the space program.. That fell on
its face with the internal conflicts of ending VietNam and the Nixon
Watergate scandal. Many of us raised our families on that Space
projects paychecks. The hours were very long, but rewarding.
Roger Coppock
There is "Tons of proof" that the Brahmins
flew to the moon many times in their Varmas.
Why, there are even thoroughly documented plans!
http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/vs/index.htm
Funny, just like NASA, the Hindus can't return to
the moon today either. Just like LEMs, Varmas
are fantasies. They only exist in museums and
plywood mock-ups.
Douglas Berry
back in the alt.conspiracy beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the
following
>
>> vacuum and one-sixth Earth gravity, down to the lunar surface. They
>> collected moon rocks and drove around in a moon buggy in the moon's 250
>> degree environment and then got back into the craft. Then, the top part of
>> the craft popped up off the surface of the moon, went up 60 miles to dock
>> with the third man in the command module, and then they flew back another
>> 240,000 miles to Earth.
>
>
>so if it was fake,why don't they visit the moon regurly then?
You get Congress to pay for it.
>it's so easy to make such a visit if your right is it not?
It wasn't easy. That was the point. But again, Congress cut the
funding.
>what a pr stunt would it be is it not?
>3 times a year to the moon and mars!
I'm game. You secure the several billion dollars we'll need.
>build a moon base and mars base!
Works for me.
>it's so easy! nasa only needs a studio ,a few technicians,few
>astronauts,and voila!
>but there is no moon base movie !? or even apollo 21-23-24-25-26-27
>etc...... is nasa stupid?
>why stop?
>explain!!!!!
Funding! Congress cancelled Apollos 18-20 (there was never going to
be flights beyond 20 in the first place.)
Instead, Congress decided to fund Skylab and the proposed Space
Shuttle.
It's all about money.
Larry W. Jewell
funding when he wondered why we hadn't been back. Amazing. There's no
other excuse for his behaviour, but then when was there ever.
Douglas Berry wrote:
--
dre
>
> Funding! Congress cancelled Apollos 18-20 (there was never going to
> be flights beyond 20 in the first place.)
>
> Instead, Congress decided to fund Skylab and the proposed Space
> Shuttle.
>
> It's all about money.
hey,you don't have to convince me you know,i know we went...and why it
stopped.
four jaw
topic.
See your still doing the rounds Fred.
This topic used to be a good one for people spouting mounds of tech
specs (that they were probably reading from a "NASA book for boy's
1969").
A couple of questions for ya.
1. Why has man never been back to the Moon since 1969?
2. If all the anti-hoaxers think all this hoax stuff is bullshit why do
you read alt.conspiracy posts?
Yawn I tire of stupid, loud mouth, over weight Yanks now :)
fOuRjAw
Cmdr Buzz corey
>
> I was involved in guidance and performance analysis for the boost phase.
> The "moon hoax" fools are living in a fantasy world, but no amount of
> facts will bring them into reality.
The looney conspiracy nut-cases never live in reality. Fantasy is much
better to them, there they can make up anything they want and really
believe it is true.
Cmdr Buzz corey
> You know, I really believe our conspiracy "fan" didn't think about
> funding when he wondered why we hadn't been back. Amazing. There's no
> other excuse for his behaviour, but then when was there ever.
The two most abundent elements in the universe are hydrogen and
stupidity, and the looney conspiracy nuts have cornered the market on
stupidity.
clifff...@yahoo.com
Which is a fact, but I know how facts get in the way with people like
you.
--
Cliff
age...@justicespammail.com
<wormhol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>What ever happend to Anderw Carol and Hit1Hard this was their fave
>topic.
>See your still doing the rounds Fred.
>This topic used to be a good one for people spouting mounds of tech
>specs (that they were probably reading from a "NASA book for boy's
>1969").
>
>A couple of questions for ya.
>
>1. Why has man never been back to the Moon since 1969?
Actually, man landed on the moon 6 times (Apollo 11-17, less 13),
circumnavigated it once (Apollo 13), and orbited it twice (Apollo 8
and 10), with the last flight in 1972. As to why no one has been back
since, it's a matter of money and will.
>2. If all the anti-hoaxers think all this hoax stuff is bullshit why do
>you read alt.conspiracy posts?
Entertainment.
four jaw
Good Call:)
Transition Zone
Warhol wrote:
> "Dave" <dwic...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 1123800246.7...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > Nice site, but where are the equations? Like energy balance, including
> > rocket engine efficiency, rocket fuel energy density?
> >
> > I thought the LEM would be interesting to do, but then I realized I
> > didn't have the necessary information.
>
> I have no idea and I don't care
That's right.
When it comes to mathematic equations that prove moon travel at that
time in that location, you just *don't* care, do you ??
HAM radio listeners of the late '60s and early '70s heard the
conversations between NASA Houston and these various spacecraft.
What else could explain the mathematic equations indicating such ??
Don't even think about saying that you can fake a communication
transmission's or communications reception's mathematic equation.
ceniza
> Actually, man landed on the moon 6 times (Apollo 11-17, less 13),
> circumnavigated it once (Apollo 13), and orbited it twice (Apollo 8
> and 10), with the last flight in 1972. As to why no one has been back
> since, it's a matter of money and will.
LOL!
Warhol
"Transition Zone" <mog...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1123968005.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
That's right.
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I have written a number of posts about those points, and were proven false
and the signals didn't come from the moon but Somewhere from the dessert in
Australia...
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maths artifact.. Now we have Aliens on the moon too
------------
bring em on...
the Apollo 10 lunar mission appears to have imaged a number of structures
and faces on the lunar far side which can be seen depicted in a processed
Apollo 10 images. the processed image was obtained from the Apollo 10 source
image courtesy of NASA.
The following is the original Apollo 10 source image:
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/AS10/10075155.jpg
The crew of the eight-day Apollo 10 mission included Lunar Module pilot
Eugene A. Cernan, Commander, Thomas P. Stafford, and Command Module pilot
John W. Young.
According to the NASA press release, the Apollo 10 source image,
AS10-27-3873, shows the Apollo 10 Command and Service Modules (CSM) that
were "photographed from the Lunar Module (LM) after CSM/LM separation in
lunar orbit. The CSM was about 175 statute miles east of Smyth's Sea" and
was flying over "rough terrain" on the lunar far side. The eastward oblique
view of the lunar surface is centered near 105 degrees east longitude and 1
degree north latitude. The horizon is approximately 600 kilometers (374
statute miles) away."
Here is the processed image:
http://photo.starblvd.net/Bob_C/1-1-5.jpg
The processed Apollo 10 image depicts the possible remnants of an ancient
lunar city. The area depicted in the above image is replete with with what
appears to be artifacts and anomalies of all kinds.
The blue outline-box in the upper-left corner of the image outlines one of
the many possible structures and faces that can be found throughout the
image.
The following image is a cropped and enlarged image that I obtained from the
upper-left corner of my processed image above:
http://photo.starblvd.net/Bob_C/1-2-1.jpg
There is what appears to be a well-defined face depicted in the blue-outline
box just above the word "Face." The face appears to be a head/monument that
rises up from the moon's surface. The face/monument stands in front of and
abuts a large structure with a white semicircular roof. The face appears to
have a possible headdress that runs along the top and sides of the face that
is similar to the headdresses of the ancient Egyptian rulers.
There appears to be two faces depicted in the red-outline circle that is
located to the lower-right of the blue-outline box in the cropped image
above. The face in the right half of the red circle looks to the east side
of the image. The face in the left half of the circle appears to look
upward.
The strikingly modern-looking structure with the semicircular roof appears
to be part of a structural complex. The structure has rectilinear (marked by
straight lines) sides that are orthognal (intersecting at right angles) to
its roof (marked by straight lines). There also appears to be small squarish
openings in the above-mentioned structure that may be windows and/or
entrances. See the enlarged image above for a closer view of the structure.
Above the green word "Structure" located to the right of the blue box,
appears to be a large structural complex. This complex is also shown in the
yellow-outline box located in the upper-right corner of the enlarged image
above.
Above the blue words "Faces/heads" in the top-center of the image is a
series of giant three-dimensional heads and/or monuments. Look above the
letters "F" and "h" in the blue words "Faces/heads" and you will see giant
carved high-relief heads.
Above the red words "Faces/heads" located in the upper-right corner of the
image are a series of large carved heads/faces that appear to extend along
the horizon.
The large crater located in the middle of the left side of the first
processed image above appears to contain possible live beings in addition to
possible carved artifacts.
The following image is a cropped and enlarged image of the crater that I
obtained from my first processed image displayed above:
http://photo.starblvd.net/Bob_C/1-2-2.jpg
The faces on the possible beings in the crater appear to be looking upwards
toward the CSM as it passes above and to the right of them.
The crater appears to have been either artificially formed or to have been
worked on by intelligent beings. The crater has unnatural rectilinear sides
that intersect in vertices as indicated by the oblique yellow line (see the
first processed image above for the yellow line) drawn parallel to a side of
the crater.
Located directly under the CSM in the bottom-center of the image is a crater
that appears to contain high-albedo artifacts and possible faces.
The numerous artifacts including the structures, faces, and monuments shown
in my processed image stand as a testament to the ancient possibly humanoid
civilization that existed on the moon. The possible extant beings in the
craters may be the most recent group of beings to inhabit the moon.
the grayscaled image was obtained from the
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/AS10/10075155.jpg
Following is the grayscaled image:
http://photo.starblvd.net/Bob_C/1-2-4.jpg
Note, as stated above, the rectangular front wall that intersects
orthogonally with the semicircular roof of the white modern-looking
structure located in the blue-outline rectangle in the grayscaled image.
Also in the the lower-left corner of the blue-outline box there is a what
appears to be a large ancient-Egyptian-type face with eyes, nose, mouth, and
an Egyptian-type headdress redolent of the "Face on Mars." Also note, that
this giant "Face on the moon" exhibits bilateral symmetry. This high-relief
face/monument is huge and rises high off of the lunar surface.
There is a large face in the yellow rectangle located in the bottom-right
corner of the greyscaled image just above and to the upper-right of a
high-albedo crater.
The green rectangle located in the middle of the left side of the greyscaled
image outlines the unusual crater mentioned above. A plethora of artifacts,
statues, and possible beings looking up at the CSM flying above the crater,
can be seen in the crater.
The red-outline rectangle located in the top-middle of the greyscaled image
clearly displays two large heads. The head on the right side of the
red-outline rectangle faces to the southwest while the oval-shaped head in
the left side of the same rectangle faces the viewer of the image.
I have previously written that other researchers and I feel that the moon
was possibly designed by intelligent beings as a possible artificial
spacecraft and/or satellite. Those possible spacefaring beings, who were
from within or from outside of our solar system, may have transported the
moon and its inhabitants across space and moved it into orbit around the
Earth. The faces, heads, and monuments in the above images may have been
made by a possible civilization that was transported on the moon across
space to a final destination in orbit around the Earth. They may have made
those artifacts to please their gods and/or beings who transported them
across space. Many of the monuments appear to have been made very big so
that could be seen from far away, possibly from space.
Take a closer look at the large crater located in the middle of the left
side of the large image. I also included an enlargement of that crater. The
key point about that crater is the crater's unusual rectilinear sides, one
of which I outlined with a yellow line. Nature doesn't create craters with
rectilinear sides that intersect in vertices. The sides of that large crater
almost forms a regular hexagon. A meteorite would not create a crater with
those kind of sides. The crater may have originally been created naturally
by a meteorite or an asteroid, but the subsequent shape of the sides of the
crater looks artificial as if it had been worked on and not the result of a
geomorphological process.
Although it is not critical to viewing the image, you can also view the
image with a magnifier which may help you to see the anomalies even better.
from a guy that say he is located in some star... called earth
Enjoy and have a nice day.
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Warhol
their spaceship had 6 metres of lead shielding.
Did a space suit made of rubber and cloth in the 1960s protect people on the
Moon, the planet having no atmospheric layers and magnetic fields? Could it
protect from high radiation? The temperature of 250 Fahrenheit degrees below
zero would immediately kill humans in such suits. But it was reported that
none of the astronauts was even affected with radiation sickness.
Where are the pix of stars, earth and sun?
"Larry W. Jewell" <larry_no_w_...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le
message de news: ddi4es$3m5$1...@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu...
> I'll do it where I please. If you can't understand simple matters of
> radiation shielding, that's your problem. Do it to whom you please.
>
> Larry J
>
> Warhol wrote:
>
> >"Larry W. Jewell" <larry_no_w_...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le
> >message de news: ddh23m$jm6$1...@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu...
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Then what would be the radiation dose due to such fluxes, for the
amount
> >>>
> >>>
> >of
> >
> >
> >>>time an astronaut crew would be exposed?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Remember,they're not out there in their raincoats., the command capsule
> >>has radiation shielding .
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Are you serious? If you wish to delude yourself I have no problem with
that,
> >all I ask is that you do it elsewhere.
> >
> >ha ha ha ha ha ha
> >
> >I did not know you are such a moron! Tiny raincoats, yea, tiny radiation
up
> >your arse!
> >
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The Appollo capusules had computers, computers that used the data
> >>>>generated by mainframe computers back on earth.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>And just how did they communicate with these computers on earth?
> >>>
> >>>They used a faster-as-light system developed by that Italian guy,
> >>>
> >>>
> >Marconi. For some, repeat some, changes, the crews got the "nouns" and
> >"verbs" and entered them manually. It was those numbers that Apollo 13
> >waited for so nervously.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The smaller Appollo
> >>>>computers didn't need word processing, video, mpgs, etc,. so it could
> >>>>spend its time to guidance work.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Those computers as you call them weren't able to do any guidance work.
I
> >>>tell ya what do; google scientific calculators and come back and tell
us
> >>>what year they came out in.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Hand-held scientific calculators are not space guiadance computers.
> >>You're grasping at straws here, trying to find something to quibble
> >>about..
> >>
> >>Let's make it easy on you. Which was more likely? Hundreds of
> >>thousands of people colluded to fake moon landings OR we went to the
> >>moon? Which is more likely?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >"The Experts Agree, the Answer is 250,000 miles Away"
> >
> >I like the "inverted umbrella like" antenna....., wow! Taken with out any
> >modification from Star Trek Deep Space 9.5"
> >
> >Honorable is correct, the Aliens are compulsive "graffiti painters". I
also
> >suspect them of stealing that American Flag.
> >
> >I want to see the face of person who is lying to us.
> >
> >that's all
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>See, not hard when you think about it. But you do have to think.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Think? Don't believe everything you see on TV, nor should you take the
> >>>
> >>>
> >word
> >
> >
> >>>of the government.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>As you can tell, I go a lot of thinking, but not in Narnia or
Middleearth.
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>
> >
> >by the way
> >
> >the landing was fake, that was a nice Hollywood creation. Not the first
and
> >not the last one
> >
> >the inverted umbrella is something else
> >
> >hahahahaha
Warhol
"R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
42FDB3...@armory.com...
> Larry W. Jewell wrote:
> >
> > >Then what would be the radiation dose due to such fluxes, for the
amount of
> > >time an astronaut crew would be exposed?
> > >
> > >
> > Remember,they're not out there in their raincoats., the command capsule
> > has radiation shielding .
> ------------------------
> Not nearly enough. It's about 3.8" aluminum.
>
>
but then again these people "know" how to pass that belt. ( there are holes
in it that they can see with the naked eye american Uberman)
hollywood is gonna be busy.
> > >>The Appollo capusules had computers, computers that used the data
> > >>generated by mainframe computers back on earth.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >And just how did they communicate with these computers on earth?
> > >
> > >They used a faster-as-light system developed by that Italian guy,
Marconi. For some, repeat some, changes, the crews got the "nouns" and
"verbs" and entered them manually. It was those numbers that Apollo 13
waited for so nervously.
> -------------
> Yup.
>
or was it Tesla??????
>
> > >>The smaller Appollo
> > >>computers didn't need word processing, video, mpgs, etc,. so it could
> > >>spend its time to guidance work.
> -----------------
> Yup, nor did it have Windows. It had a 7-segment display.
>
can you say simple calculator.. model 69
>
> > >Those computers as you call them weren't able to do any guidance work.
I
> > >tell ya what do; google scientific calculators and come back and tell
us
> > >what year they came out in.
> > >
> > Hand-held scientific calculators are not space guiadance computers.
> ---------------------------------
> No, but they could be reprogrammed for that to emulate the AGC.
> They Do have enough power.
>
WOW tell eme more!!!
i need morree!!! SPOCK DEMAND MOREEE!!!
dont make me vaporize you!
i would go to mars and live there if i had the chance.
BUT i must HAVE internet!
>
> > You're grasping at straws here, trying to find something to quibble
> > about..
> >
> > Let's make it easy on you. Which was more likely? Hundreds of
> > thousands of people colluded to fake moon landings OR we went to the
> > moon? Which is more likely?
> -------------------------------
> Since thousands of people saw them get onboard and launch, and heard
> their voices from the moon with directional antennas...
> Steve
>
voices from the dessert yes
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
FEAR THE
WARHOLIAN
BUNNY!
Warhol
"R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
42FDB6...@armory.com...
LOL I WAS JOKING me knows it was a movie.
> > Hmm..... yep all staged in Hollywood
> >
> > The moon landing was faked in a swimming pool located in a NASA hangar
on a
> > secret base.
> >
> > That's what some here have said. If you search, you'll find a thread
> > containing a lot of posts specifying how America faked it all.
> >
> > Other things that, according to this crowd, "never happened" include;
> >
> > 1. The telephone, automobile, computer, certain medicines, various
> > technological breakthroughs and any other invention were actually
conceived
> > and produced outside America. All claims of U.S. ingenuity are false.
> > Everything was designed overseas.
> -----------------------------
> Where do you get this shit? A few things were invented by multiple
> inventors at nearly the same time, but if you examine the broad
> claims, they are all correct, pay attention to the details about
> what is claimed and it makes more sense.
>
Interesting theory, to say the least.
Hello, Art Bell?
>
> > 2. America did not save other nations in WWI and II. The occupied
countries
> > were doing fine on their own and would have whipped the Krauts and Japs
even
> > if America hadn't intervened.
> --------------------------------
> Now THAT'S just plain SILLY!
>
Like evolutionists who can't come up with a mountain of evidence for
instance... hell they can't even come up with one fact that would prove
their myth, because it's a myth, and not history.
Talk about blathering baffoons.
>
> > 3. Any other positive achievement that can attributed to America is a
lie.
> >
> > Sorry guys, couldn't resist.
> >
> > Does anyone have some pictures with Russian Cosmonauts on the
moon.....oh
> > yea I forgot they never made it. Never mind. Couldn't resist.
> >
> > See, Warhol knows the truth.
> >
> > Hahahahahaha
> --------------------
> WOW, glad you're not crazy.
> Steve
so dont hold your breath.
Larry W. Jewell
units of radiation per hour you get sick and die. If you don't get that
much the consequences are less. If you go through the thinnest part of
the belt and go through as fast a possible your dosage is within
permissible limits. Dr. Paul van Allen said that the routes taken and
the sheilding provided was enough to keep the astronauts safe. If you
can come up with a better authority on the Van Allen Radiation Belts
you'll probably find that he or she says the same thing.
Can you do a simple test for me? Take a dish of water 12" wide and
eight inches deep. Push your face into the water until your nose
touches bottom.
Thanks.
Larry J
Cmdr Buzz corey
> Humans beings could not survive a trip through the Van Allen Belts, unless
> their spaceship had 6 metres of lead shielding.
>
> Did a space suit made of rubber and cloth in the 1960s protect people on the
> Moon, the planet having no atmospheric layers and magnetic fields? Could it
> protect from high radiation? The temperature of 250 Fahrenheit degrees below
> zero would immediately kill humans in such suits. But it was reported that
> none of the astronauts was even affected with radiation sickness.
>
> Where are the pix of stars, earth and sun?
Are you really this stupid or is this some kind of act?
Cmdr Buzz corey
>
> I have written a number of posts about those points, and were proven false
> and the signals didn't come from the moon but Somewhere from the dessert in
> Australia...
Sure they did, just don't let your tinfoil hat slip off and you will be OK.
Art Deco
You are an idiot, mohammed-boi:
[kookscreed flushed]
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
"Don't be too envious. Yes, I have got it all. I am rich, I
have a good education, and I am rather good looking .. so
where does that leave you?
C."
-- Charles D. "Chuckweasel" Bohne polishes his ego a bit
"That's what you expect from people who think that the
cyberworld isn't "RL"."
-- Dr. David Tholen, Psychic Astrologer
"The original human being was a female hermaphrodite with
both male and female genitalia."
-- Alexa Cameron, Kook of the Year 2004
Douglas Berry
<cen...@genservconnadv.com> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.conspiracy beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
>
http://www.clavius.org/index.html
C'mon, let's here all your tired claims, and see how long you last
before you run away.. again.
Anyone interested in cenzia's past brushes with insanity are welcome
to review them here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z1E0565D9
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W211515D9
He rants, raves, makes insults, and eventually crawls away.
Douglas Berry
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.conspiracy beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>Humans beings could not survive a trip through the Van Allen Belts, unless
>their spaceship had 6 metres of lead shielding.
Wrong. Radiation exposure is a factor of signal strength and time.
They passed through the thinnest part of the VAB (the South Atlantic
Anomoly) at 25,000mph. Total exposure was about that of two chest
X-rays, and only a small portion of that was ionizing radiation.
>Did a space suit made of rubber and cloth in the 1960s protect people on the
>Moon, the planet having no atmospheric layers and magnetic fields? Could it
>protect from high radiation? The temperature of 250 Fahrenheit degrees below
>zero would immediately kill humans in such suits. But it was reported that
>none of the astronauts was even affected with radiation sickness.
Rubber and cloth? Try a hell of a lot more than that! From the skin
out, the Apollo A7LB spacesuit began with an astronaut-worn
liquid-cooling garment, similar to a pair of "long-johns" with a
network of spaghetti-like tubing sewn onto the fabric. Cool water,
circulating through the tubing, transferred metabolic heat from the
Moon explorer's body to the backpack and thence to space.
Next came a comfort and donning improvement layer of lightweight
nylon, followed by a gas-tight pressure bladder of Neoprene-coated
nylon or bellows-like molded joints components, a nylon restraint
layer to prevent the bladder from ballooning, a lightweight thermal
super-insulation of alternating layers of thin Kapton and glass-fiber
cloth, several layers of Mylar and spacer material, and finally,
protective outer layers of Teflon coated glass-fiber Beta cloth.
Oh, the Apollo landingas all occured near the day/night terminator.
So the -250 figure is wrong. That's for the lunar surface in full
darkness.
>Where are the pix of stars, earth and sun?
The camera used on the surface was designed to take photos of the
highly reflective lunar regolith. They weren't there to take picures
of the stars (and the stars were washed out of the pictures because of
the camera settings.) Likewise, Earth was high overhead and would
have required leaning back far beyond the point of falling over to get
a picture.
While in lunar orbit, crews took numerous pictures of the Earth.
alt.current-events.wtc-explosion, alt.politics.media,
alt.politics.usa, and alt.parenting.solutions snipped.
Douglas Berry
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.conspiracy beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>Like evolutionists who can't come up with a mountain of evidence for
>instance... hell they can't even come up with one fact that would prove
>their myth, because it's a myth, and not history.
We have mountains, you just refuse to look at them, loon.
dre
>
> Where are the pix of stars, earth and sun?
can you see stars on earth in daylight?!
and the earth IS on photographs.
aozo...@aol.com
> I amm an idiot:
>
Art speaks the truth~
> [kookscreed flushed]\
Art goes to the Moon Nightly with his new designer drugs and knows one
can get there!
Art Deco
>Art Deco wrote:
>
>> I amm an idiot:
You pathetic moron, you managed to self-spank yourself while post
editing.
>>
>
>Art speaks the truth~
>
>> [kookscreed flushed]\
>
>Art goes to the Moon Nightly with his new designer drugs and knows one
>can get there!
With my kook translator in the scrap head thanks to warhol the
mohammed-bot, this mess is undecipherable.
>
>>
>> --
>> Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
>
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"Don't be too envious. Yes, I have got it all. I am rich, I
Warhol
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Pure Fantasy
sleeper
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> Are you really this stupid or is this some kind of act?
it's really that stupid.
you could killfile it, but all of the cranks will repost its delusions
through quotes.
you could just kill the thread...
or slow down and rubberneck at the car accident.
listener-powered and commercial-free.
ceniza
the
outside was a picture of the little auxilary pod.
I noticed how much it looked like the Apollo landing module. It kinda makes
you wonder why. Could it be, to make it more believable to the masses, they
designed
the lander to look like the mini-ship from Lost in Space?
Yes, I believe that's it!
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