Who is Milton William Cooper? He is one of the biggest liars of the 20th century. He even beats Erich von Daniken. For those of you who belive Cooper, let me ask you this. What hard evidence has he come up with? None. If you still don't believe me, see the good evidence I have provided, unless you are a close-minded fool. (I'm not talking about some people I have sent this paper to.) There are several differences between Cooper and me.
1. Cooper- Supports stories with loosely-based evidence and lies. Me- I use police and medical records, and the scrutiny of critical thinking, etc.
2. Cooper- Wants you to waste money on his merchandi$e. Me- I want you to know the REAL TRUTH.
But what does Cooper do, anyway? His main characteristic are taking in all kinds of conspiracies and embellishing them until he can tell his followers about his new revelation, which will often come from his work on a naval intelligence briefing team on U.S.S. Oriskany. According to naval records, he was on an intelligence team. For a short time. As an AV boy. He was honorably discharged. His integrity ends there. If he's not embellishing a paranoid psychotic's delusions, then he's just plain lying. He will also make odd 180 degree turns on things and people, like his new decision that UFOs are actually gov. fakes, rather than his earlier decision that they contained aliens which cooperate with the government, and the way he turned on Bob lazar, John Lear, and many others who used to be his dearest friends, but are now CIA disinformants. His two other characteristics are that he will become defensive and aggressive when subjected to skeptical scrutiny, which, according to various psychology textbooks, is characteristic of lying, especially PATHOLOGICAL LYING. Cooper will also arrive at his lectures smelling like 'Boozy' Boris Yeltsin up to 6 ft. away from his body.
Let's delve into these lies. Cooper has written many credulous documents. (I call them trash-terpieces.) We'll use Operation Majority, NASA Masonic Conspiracy. He also wrote in his book about Project Galileo, and now that I have e-mailed him about it, he made up a leaky story to protect himself.
Operation Majority- This is mainly about an inside joke John Lear and John Grace wrote, called the O.H. Krill Papers. Cooper heavily embellished them with and among other things, an obviously false statement about 3mm spherical implants placed in 1 out of 40 people by Grey alien boogeymen. (Wouldn't a doctor performing an autopsy, brain scan, or brain surgery notice some sort of anomaly?)
NASA Masonic Conspiracy- Here Cooper shows loosely-based about spacecraft names (What's in a name?) and his total lack of knowledge about lunar lighting conditions and surface albedo.
Project Galileo- The most peculiar and fraudulent of them all, Cooper performs the only copyright infringement in the form of a conspiracy theory. He now states that he said nothing of it, although it was in his book. He basically says that Galileo will use plutonium and Jupiter's atmospheric pressure to create another Sun named Lucifer. Now I'll quote Arthur C. Clarke's book, 2010: Oddessy Two:
"Fifty times more brilliant than the full Moon, Lucifer had transformed the skies of Earth, virtually banishing night for months at a time."
Sound familiar?
For those of you who still belive Cooper, why don't you check out how he did on Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit (Self-explanatory)
There is no confirmation of "facts".
Occam's Razor will chop most of his theories apart.
Ad hominem- attacking the arguer and not the argument.
Well, Cooper does this a lot.
Inconsistency-
All those 180 degree turns...
Non Sequitur- The logic falls down.
The logic is frequently weak.
Straw Man- Caricaturing a position to make it easier to attack.
Calls UFOlogists CIA disinformants.
Suppresed Evidence or Half-Truths
Quite frequent with Cooper.
Still blindly trusting Cooper? I have some odds and ends that discredit him very well.
Now that Cooper dosen't believe there are really aliens taking us, (which I don't believe either, but I don't go along with his new theories) he has leaked in many places. Here are two instances:
1. He has called UFOlogists CIA agents trying to to cover up stuff like the O.H. Krill Papers, which he has accused John Lear of doing. Now that Cooper says UFOs are artificial threats, but has not changed his mind on UFOlogists, wouldn't the UFOlogists be doing the opposite of what they're supposed to be doing?
2. In one of Cooper's speeches, he states that there were UFOs in the Vietnam War, and EMPHATICALLY stated that they were alien controlled. Oops, he changed his mind!
Cooper has claimed that John Lear is Condor from The Aviary, an alleged government group. You see, Cooper listened to a tape with Condor's voice on it, and analyzed it proving it was Lear. In fact, Condor's voice was masked with a vocoder, which deletes all human qualities from voice.
How about the Zapruder film?
Cooper's Claim: The film shows President Kennedy's limo driver, William Greer turn around and shoot Kennedy.
The Clear, Colorized Version Of The Zapruder Film: It shows Greer look back at Kennedy twice, one time involving a reflection of the Sun, thus making a reflection that looked, and only looked like a weapon.
And of course, two stories which Cooper uses to defend himself:
1. Hooverites chased him off a cliff in their car while Cooper was on his motorcycle, and he lost his leg.
Fact: Cooper was heavily inebriated, and cut off his own leg in his own intoxication, according to police and medical records.
2. Cooper sent his family away for their own protection, because the feds were attacking their house.
Fact: Recently, the police have been investigating complaints about domestic violence in the Cooper residence. I think there is a correlation.
If you still believe Cooper's claims, there's nothing I can do. Just give me some good evidence for them. My e-mail address is cydon...@bored.com. If you believe me, that's good. I urge you to spread word about this liar. Also e-mail Cooper about how he's wasting the Information Superhighway, please.
Sincerely, D.E. Bunker (Pseudonym)
Bibliography:
1. 201O: Oddessy Two Arthur C. Clarke (I don't have the book with me, so I can't give full credit. My sincerest apologies, Arthur.)
2. The Demon-Haunted World Carl Sagan Random House New York C. 1995
Who is Milton William Cooper? He is one of the biggest liars of the 20th century. He even beats Erich von Daniken. For those of you who belive Cooper, let me ask you this. What hard evidence has he come up with? None. If you still don't believe me, see the good evidence I have provided, unless you are a close-minded fool. (I'm not talking about some people I have sent this paper to.) There are several differences between Cooper and me.
1. Cooper- Supports stories with loosely-based evidence and lies. Me- I use police and medical records, and the scrutiny of critical thinking, etc.
2. Cooper- Wants you to waste money on his merchandi$e. Me- I want you to know the REAL TRUTH.
But what does Cooper do, anyway? His main characteristic are taking in all kinds of conspiracies and embellishing them until he can tell his followers about his new revelation, which will often come from his work on a naval intelligence briefing team on U.S.S. Oriskany. According to naval records, he was on an intelligence team. For a short time. As an AV boy. He was honorably discharged. His integrity ends there. If he's not embellishing a paranoid psychotic's delusions, then he's just plain lying. He will also make odd 180 degree turns on things and people, like his new decision that UFOs are actually gov. fakes, rather than his earlier decision that they contained aliens which cooperate with the government, and the way he turned on Bob lazar, John Lear, and many others who used to be his dearest friends, but are now CIA disinformants. His two other characteristics are that he will become defensive and aggressive when subjected to skeptical scrutiny, which, according to various psychology textbooks, is characteristic of lying, especially PATHOLOGICAL LYING. Cooper will also arrive at his lectures smelling like 'Boozy' Boris Yeltsin up to 6 ft. away from his body.
Let's delve into these lies. Cooper has written many credulous documents. (I call them trash-terpieces.) We'll use Operation Majority, NASA Masonic Conspiracy. He also wrote in his book about Project Galileo, and now that I have e-mailed him about it, he made up a leaky story to protect himself.
Operation Majority- This is mainly about an inside joke John Lear and John Grace wrote, called the O.H. Krill Papers. Cooper heavily embellished them with and among other things, an obviously false statement about 3mm spherical implants placed in 1 out of 40 people by Grey alien boogeymen. (Wouldn't a doctor performing an autopsy, brain scan, or brain surgery notice some sort of anomaly?)
NASA Masonic Conspiracy- Here Cooper shows loosely-based about spacecraft names (What's in a name?) and his total lack of knowledge about lunar lighting conditions and surface albedo.
Project Galileo- The most peculiar and fraudulent of them all, Cooper performs the only copyright infringement in the form of a conspiracy theory. He now states that he said nothing of it, although it was in his book. He basically says that Galileo will use plutonium and Jupiter's atmospheric pressure to create another Sun named Lucifer. Now I'll quote Arthur C. Clarke's book, 2010: Oddessy Two:
"Fifty times more brilliant than the full Moon, Lucifer had transformed the skies of Earth, virtually banishing night for months at a time."
Sound familiar?
For those of you who still belive Cooper, why don't you check out how he did on Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit (Self-explanatory)
There is no confirmation of "facts".
Occam's Razor will chop most of his theories apart.
Ad hominem- attacking the arguer and not the argument.
Well, Cooper does this a lot.
Inconsistency-
All those 180 degree turns...
Non Sequitur- The logic falls down.
The logic is frequently weak.
Straw Man- Caricaturing a position to make it easier to attack.
Calls UFOlogists CIA disinformants.
Suppresed Evidence or Half-Truths
Quite frequent with Cooper.
Still blindly trusting Cooper? I have some odds and ends that discredit him very well.
Now that Cooper dosen't believe there are really aliens taking us, (which I don't believe either, but I don't go along with his new theories) he has leaked in many places. Here are two instances:
1. He has called UFOlogists CIA agents trying to to cover up stuff like the O.H. Krill Papers, which he has accused John Lear of doing. Now that Cooper says UFOs are artificial threats, but has not changed his mind on UFOlogists, wouldn't the UFOlogists be doing the opposite of what they're supposed to be doing?
2. In one of Cooper's speeches, he states that there were UFOs in the Vietnam War, and EMPHATICALLY stated that they were alien controlled. Oops, he changed his mind!
Cooper has claimed that John Lear is Condor from The Aviary, an alleged government group. You see, Cooper listened to a tape with Condor's voice on it, and analyzed it proving it was Lear. In fact, Condor's voice was masked with a vocoder, which deletes all human qualities from voice.
How about the Zapruder film?
Cooper's Claim: The film shows President Kennedy's limo driver, William Greer turn around and shoot Kennedy.
The Clear, Colorized Version Of The Zapruder Film: It shows Greer look back at Kennedy twice, one time involving a reflection of the Sun, thus making a reflection that looked, and only looked like a weapon.
And of course, two stories which Cooper uses to defend himself:
1. Hooverites chased him off a cliff in their car while Cooper was on his motorcycle, and he lost his leg.
Fact: Cooper was heavily inebriated, and cut off his own leg in his own intoxication, according to police and medical records.
2. Cooper sent his family away for their own protection, because the feds were attacking their house.
Fact: Recently, the police have been investigating complaints about domestic violence in the Cooper residence. I think there is a correlation.
If you still believe Cooper's claims, there's nothing I can do. Just give me some good evidence for them. My e-mail address is cydon...@bored.com. If you believe me, that's good. I urge you to spread word about this liar. Also e-mail Cooper about how he's wasting the Information Superhighway, please.
Sincerely, D.E. Bunker (Pseudonym)
Bibliography:
1. 201O: Oddessy Two Arthur C. Clarke (I don't have the book with me, so I can't give full credit. My sincerest apologies, Arthur.)
2. The Demon-Haunted World Carl Sagan Random House New York C. 1995
: Who is Milton William Cooper? He is one of the biggest liars of the : 20th century. He even beats Erich von Daniken. For those of you who : belive Cooper, let me ask you this. What hard evidence has he come up : with? None. If you still don't believe me, see the good evidence I have : provided, unless you are a close-minded fool. (I'm not talking about : some people I have sent this paper to.)
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>From: "Garrison L. Hilliard" <aa3...@FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU> >Subject: Majestic 12 >X-To: skeptix@bitnet >To: Multiple recipients of list SKEPTIX > >Here you go, folks, straight from my GT net echo to you... > > >THE SECRET GOVERNMENT >The Origin, Identity, and Purpose of MJ-12 >By Milton William Cooper >May 23, 1989 > Oh, GACK! William Cooper! The _one_ UFOlogist who is nearly universally _condemned_ by other UFOlogists! Incoherency Incarnate! The Object O'Scorn among those of us who pay attention to the Fringe!
How's he doing?
Actually, this is a nice excuse to circulate the following-- my _Humanist_ column for November-December 1992. It was one of the few times I got into a classic "skeptic" topic, I had a lot of fun writing it, and I hope y'all like it. (Please post your praise publicly; it's good for my ego.)
Hangin' with Zontar at the Grassy Knoll, or, Greyz N the Hood by Brian Siano
_ Hath not an alien eyes? Much in the likenesses of children found on black velvet? Hath not an alien hands, vestigal organs, multiple dimensions, senses, and passions? Do we not look like praying mantises? If you prick us, do we not bleed purple dripping ichor? If you wrong us, shall we not abduct you?. . . I demand my pound of flesh, a few unfertilized eggs and semen samples, and maybe a couple of heifers from Colorado to pass the time._
Ignatz Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venus"
Aliens have to put up with a lot of prejudice. Even UFOlogists call them "the Greys" because of their skin color-- they don't even _try_ to use the more politically correct "Ashen-Americans." I'm sure you've heard the stereotypes before; _All_ aliens abduct people for medical experiments. _All_ cattle mutilations are done by aliens. Those Greys are _taking over_ our country with their superior technology. Their spacecraft are smaller, faster, and more fuel-efficient than ours. The Greys are crafty, sinister, telepathic, inscrutable, and they all look alike. The Greys want our _women._ The Greys use the blood of Christian babies to make matzoh bread, hide subliminal messgaes on Metallica albums, eat dogs and cats, and secretly run the world through the Rothschild banks. But the situation has gotten so bad that UFOlogist Wendelle C. Stevens (USAF ret.) recently felt the need to write an article for _International UFO Library Magazine_ titled, "All 'Greys' Are Not Reticulans." It seems that ". . . most of the 'greys' are actually coming from someplace else and are not Reticulans at all. The true Reticulans are being erroneously blamed for the misdeeds of all those others, some of whom seem to be involved in the ET genetic experiments now being reported more and more." Stevens complains that when Budd Hopkins was assembling his book _Intruders_, he was "pre-selecting" cases where Grey-like aliens were involved. Turns out that all of the visiting types of aliens were performing these experiments, but the Greys from Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 Reticuli-- the ones contacting Bill Herrmann of Charleston, South Carolina, at least-- were NOT. Now, if this strikes you as splitting hairs (although it could be important to the apparently-snobbish Zeta Reticulans), you can imagine just how many UFO-contact theories are zooming around out there. So let's take a look in the UFO Coverup Conspiracy and Wish-Fulfillment Paranoia pool. I stuck a toe in that pool, and walked away feeling like I'd been dunked into a vat of sewage effluents. This metaphorical pool is stagnant, fetid, murky, and chock full of grotty bottom-feeders scrounging amongst themselves for a tasty bit of phlegm. So we'll have to be content with culturing a sample or two of the most _outr_ growths-- but let's make sure we keep the things in the glove box, and store them at Absolute Zero.
_"Well it had been 987 years in outer space time when I got back, Couldn't seem to find any of my friends to tell my interesting stories to"_ -- The B-52's, "Is That You, Mo-Dean?"
Twenty-five years ago, UFOlogists speculated as to whether the government really did take UFOs seriously, and might be concealing its real and substantial interest. These days, most UFO coverup theories _begin_ with the crashed-saucer-recovery story in William Moore and Charles Berlitz's 1980 book _The Roswell Incident_. According to the authors, the government recovered saucer wreckage and four bodies from a crash at Roswell, New Mexico, and they've been keeping it a secret since 1947. The authors' previous books do not inspire confidence. Berlitz wrote a discredited study on the Bermuda Triangle, and Moore was previously known for his book _The Philadelphia Experiment_. And between three books on the subject, there's not a lot of agreement. There was either one crash with four bodies (Moore), one crash with three bodies and one survivor (Kevin Randle and Don Schmitt, _UFO Crash at Roswell_), or _two_ crashes, 150 miles apart, one with four bodies and the other with three bodies and one survivor (Stanton Friedman and Don Berliner, _Crash at Corona_, to be published). Given the above confusion, it's not surprising that photos of the collected debris are claimed to be the 'actual' debris in Moore's book, and _faked_ wreckage in Randle's. Problem is, the debris pictured looks like a kite made of tinfoil. Now, let's add the further confusion of the MJ-12 papers. (This is pretty condensed, so follow this carefully.) In 1987, William Moore received what appeared to be Top Secret papers that outlined the formation of a high-level commission called Majestic-12, to study the recovered wreckage from _one_ crash in 1947. The papers, if authentic, would have been the 'smoking gun' supporting accounts of a crashed-saucer cover-up. UFO debunker Philip Klass turned up a lot of anomalies in the documents-- for example, a signature of Harry Truman was _exactly_ like another, authentic Truman signature, and showed signs of apparent Xerox-doctoring. Friedman has endorsed their authenticity, even though they mention only _one_ crash-- conflicting with his compromise two-crash scenario. Moore, on the other hand, threw the whole fire-and-boat drill into a tizzy when he announced at the 1989 Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) conference that he'd served as a government misinformation agent, feeding false data to other UFOlogists. Currently, the various crashed-saucer camps are calling each other names in a three-way standoff. And they don't like Phil Klass a whole lot, either. Remember, this is the _less_ extravagant end of UFO coverup theories. These are the _serious_ researchers whose books are published by major companies, who get substantial grants from UFO research organizations, and who are featured speakers at UFO conferences. These are the _respectable_ UFO coverup researchers. Just keep telling yourself that.
_"While cruising through the ionosphere, I saw these alien beings. Everywhere I went up there, they were shakin' their alien things."_ -- The B-52's, "Cosmic Thing"
Moving on to the slightly more. . . _baroque_ factions, we come across Bob Lazar, who turned up late last year on KLAS-TV in Nevada. Lazar claims to have worked for the U.S. Navy at a lab in Los Alamos, and was regularly shuttled to an area designated S-4. At S-4, Lazar was permitted to check out the latest in alien-derived technology-- at least nine flying saucers using 'gravity-wave drives' powered by antimatter reactors which use a theoretical Element 115. Lazar has a fertile imagination for such things as candles that don't burn or melt under distorted gravity, and playfully bouncing golfballs from a repulsion field. Researchers for the ParaNet computer network, however, were unable to confirm many of Lazar's claims. Beyond a phone book listing, a newspaper article about jet cars, and a W-2 form that anyone could've filled out at the public library, Bob Lazar the Government Physicist seems never to have existed. George Knapp of KLAS-TV says that "We did a lot of checking on him and found interestingly enough that his life was disappearing around him. . . We called Los Alamos Labs and they said they never heard of him. We called MIT where he says he went to school and they had never heard of him. We called for his birth records and they had disappeared. . . as if someone was trying to make him a non-person." Most journalists, faced with this lack of substantiation, would figure Lazar was yanking someone's chain. Knapp put him on the news. Other problems in Lazar's story turn up. In a KLAS interview, describing the
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Oh, it sure looks like Mr. Cooper has once again hit the Enemy HARD, right where it hurts most...'cause just look at the attempts at DAMAGE CONTROL...again:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:13:27 GMT, cydon...@my-deja.com posted:
> Who is Milton William Cooper? He is one of the biggest liars of the >20th century.
Claim of a LIAR right there.
>He even beats Erich von Daniken.
NO relationship whatsoever...more Cheap fodder for more Cheap Shots, the Enemy's Hallmark.
>For those of you who >belive Cooper, let me ask you this. What hard evidence has he come up >with? None.
Now the Tactic of the STACKED DECK, the ONLY way the Enemy Will Play because it's the ONLY WAY THE ENEMY CAN PLAY! What hard evidence? None...stacking the deck. For those of you who are NOT Change Agents, I suggest you read Bill Cooper's Excellent book, BEHOLD A PALE HORSE, and visit his Excellent website:
They you may avail yourselves of the HARD EVIDENCE and Learn HOW FAR OFF BASE Professional LIARS, Damage Control, and Change Agents Really are.
>If you still don't believe me, see the good evidence I have >provided, unless you are a close-minded fool.
Another Manipulation Tactic of the Enemy...DO THIS or DON'T DO THAT or you're a (fill in the Insulting and Disparaging term(s) here). DON'T FALL FOR IT!
>(I'm not talking about >some people I have sent this paper to.) > There are several differences between Cooper and me.
Now THAT IS True...Mr. Cooper is a Real American Patriot!
>1. Cooper- Supports stories with loosely-based evidence and lies.
That's the Euphemism for Direct Hits RIGHT ON Target.
> Me- I use police and medical records, and the scrutiny of critical >thinking, etc.
In other words, Relying on Corruption ad Tampering, the Enemy's LIES as 'facts'.
>2. Cooper- Wants you to waste money on his merchandi$e.
And what merchandise is that? In other words, what items are a waste of money?
> Me- I want you to know the REAL TRUTH.
Your post has just PROVEN that to be a DAMN LIE!
> But what does Cooper do, anyway?
He Spearheads the AMERICAN RESTORATION, THAT'S what he does!
That's what Mr. Cooper does...now, What do you do, other than of course, Damage Control for the Enemy?
>His main characteristic are taking >in all kinds of conspiracies and embellishing them until he can tell >his followers about his new revelation, which will often come from his >work on a naval intelligence briefing team on U.S.S. Oriskany.
He learned of the Treason in other areas as well.
>According to naval records, he was on an intelligence team. For a short >time. As an AV boy. He was honorably discharged. His integrity ends >there.
He was on the Intelligence Briefing Team for CINCPACFLT...and his Integrity is Impeccable.
>If he's not embellishing a paranoid psychotic's delusions, then >he's just plain lying.
You're Feeble Psychopolitical Manipulation Attempts are already well understood.
>He will also make odd 180 degree turns on things >and people, like his new decision that UFOs are actually gov. >fakes, >rather than his earlier decision that they contained aliens which >cooperate with the government, and the way he turned on Bob lazar, John >Lear, and many others who used to be his dearest friends, but are now >CIA disinformants.
Mr. Cooper has made a 180 degree turn on the matter of the 'extraterrestrial' aspects of UFOs BECAUSE of his Integrity, UNLIKE those who Embrace PET THEORIES, upon his learning the Truth about UFOs. Mr. Cooper is also the ONLY person I've ever heard who WILL and HAS Stood Corrected for a few inaccuracies on worldwide shortwave radio, before the world, and APOLOGIZED on the air for his few mistakes and went far out of his way to Inform listeners of the Correction. If THAT isn't Integrity, NOTHING is! Also, Mr. Cooper Endeavors to tell the Truth NO MATTER THE COST, whether his 'friends', his family, hiw wealth, even his Life...and he has in Fact PROVEN that Many times over.
>His two other characteristics are that he will >become defensive and aggressive when subjected to skeptical scrutiny, >which, according to various psychology textbooks, is characteristic of >lying, especially PATHOLOGICAL LYING.
Psychology as Deployed and Employed, is a FRAUD, A Strategic and Tactical WEAPON Designed and Used by the Enemy Specifically for the Vile Purpose of adding the ILLUSION of 'credibility' to PERSECUTION, MANIPULATION, and other ATTACKS against their Political opponents! THAT is what you are Supporting...while having the Unmitigated Gall to Attack a True American Patriot.
I Invite EVERYONE out here to Verify this Fact by Reading:
"A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics", at the following SOURCE:
>Cooper will also arrive at his >lectures smelling like 'Boozy' Boris Yeltsin up to 6 ft. away from his >body.
The Cheapest Shot of all...Always resorted by those who can do nothing else.
> Let's delve into these lies. Cooper has written many credulous >documents. (I call them trash-terpieces.) We'll use Operation Majority, >NASA Masonic Conspiracy. He also wrote in his book about Project >Galileo, and now that I have e-mailed him about it, he made up a leaky >story to protect himself.
Prominent by it's Absence in the above, or perhaps it's a Deliberate Omission, is MAJESTYTWELVE. Here, READ about it:
>Operation Majority- This is mainly about an inside joke John Lear and >John Grace wrote, called the O.H. Krill Papers.
Nope.
>Cooper heavily >embellished them with and among other things, an obviously false >statement about 3mm spherical implants placed in 1 out of 40 people by >Grey alien boogeymen. (Wouldn't a doctor performing an autopsy, brain >scan, or brain surgery notice some sort of anomaly?)
Bill Cooper has already REFUTED that earlier MISinformation years ago...and if YOU had Any Semblance of Integrity, you wouldn't be resorting to the Cheap Shot of rehashing it.
You must really have a problem with meteorologists' weather forecasts...they're ALWAYS changing their forecasts as new, more Accurate information becomes available. So WHY aren't you Attacking them as 'liars' for doing that, huh? WHY instead do you Single out Bill Cooper? Sounds like you're BIASED against the man.
>NASA Masonic Conspiracy- Here Cooper shows loosely-based about >spacecraft names (What's in a name?) and his total lack of knowledge >about lunar lighting conditions and surface albedo.
He hit that one RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
>Project Galileo- The most peculiar and fraudulent of them all, Cooper >performs the only copyright infringement in the form of a conspiracy >theory. He now states that he said nothing of it, although it was in >his book. He basically says that Galileo will use plutonium and >Jupiter's atmospheric pressure to create another Sun named Lucifer. Now >I'll quote Arthur C. Clarke's book, 2010: Oddessy Two:
>"Fifty times more brilliant than the full Moon, Lucifer had transformed >the skies of Earth, virtually banishing night for months at a time."
>Sound familiar?
The Tenets of the Babylon Mystery Schools are a LOT older than Arthur Clarke or Bill Cooper...which is WHY the formation of a New World Order does Indeed sound familiar. To wit:
Before us is a Plan in which is laid down STRATEGICALLY the line from which we cannot deviate without running the risk of seeing the Labour of *MANY CENTURIES* brought to naught. --- The Illuminati
> For those of you who still belive Cooper, why don't you check out how >he did on Carl Sagan's Baloney Detection Kit (Self-explanatory)
Since WHEN was Sagan Ever a Patriot? For those who still DO NOT believe Mr. Cooper, he, and myself Cordially invite you to take Mr. Cooper's Constant Admonition Seriously to heart, that Admonition being:
"Listen to everyone, read everything, believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research."
>There is no confirmation of "facts".
The Euphemism for Refusal to Accept such Confirmation.
>Occam's Razor will chop most of his theories apart.
It sure has with yours.
>Ad hominem- attacking the arguer and not the argument.
That's your Tactic.
>Well, Cooper does this a lot.
Nope.
>Inconsistency-
That's NOT cause to blame Mr. Cooper, but rather the Instability of an OUTLAW De Facto Regime, which Mr. Cooper so regularly Exposes.
>All those 180 degree turns...
Very few of them. Obviously you're confusing Mr. Cooper with weather forecasters, who Constantly make 180 degree turns. So WHEN are you going to Single THEM out?
>Non Sequitur- The logic falls down.
The Euphemism for; CAN'T TOUCH IT, so Avoid it like the Plague!
>The logic is frequently weak.
The Euphemism for; Can't Refute it so Pretend it's invalid.
>Straw Man- Caricaturing a position to make it easier to attack.
The Euphemism for Analogy.
>Calls UFOlogists CIA disinformants.
Mindless CIA Robots, actually.
>Suppresed Evidence or Half-Truths
Evidence of the Truth has already been provided, much more than enough to set the Independent Researcher in the Right Direction. Now, as for those who insist on being Spoon-Fed that which by Right, they Should Acquire for themselves getting angry because Mr. Cooper isn't into doing that, or changing their POOPY-DIAPERS, THAT is HOW we've ALL but Totally Lost this ONCE FREE Country in the first place!
>Quite frequent with Cooper.
Nope...quite the opposite, actually.
> Still blindly trusting Cooper?
Not at all! He's PROVEN his Integrity...NOW IT'S YOUR TURN, but I won't hold my breath waiting!
>I have some odds and ends that >discredit him very well.
Hey, knock yourself out...like so many others who tried, and FAILED MISERABLY.
> Now that Cooper dosen't believe there are really aliens taking us, >(which I don't believe either, but I don't go along with his new >theories) he has leaked in many places. Here are two instances:
Free...@Liberty.com wrote: > Oh, it sure looks like Mr. Cooper has once again hit the Enemy HARD, > right where it hurts most...'cause just look at the attempts at DAMAGE > CONTROL...again:
That you Bill? Really, I find it hard to imagine anyone takes ole Bill Kookoo seriously anymore.
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:13:27 GMT, cydon...@my-deja.com posted:
> > Who is Milton William Cooper? He is one of the biggest liars of the > >20th century.
> Claim of a LIAR right there.
Hyperbole certainly. And I think he's wrong, as I'm sure Cooper believes the crap he spews.
> >He even beats Erich von Daniken.
> NO relationship whatsoever...more Cheap fodder for more Cheap Shots, > the Enemy's Hallmark.
Yeah, Van Daniken is a simple con artist, not a complete and dangerous nutter.
> >For those of you who > >belive Cooper, let me ask you this. What hard evidence has he come up > >with? None.
> Now the Tactic of the STACKED DECK, the ONLY way the Enemy Will Play > because it's the ONLY WAY THE ENEMY CAN PLAY! What hard evidence? > None...stacking the deck. For those of you who are NOT Change Agents, > I suggest you read Bill Cooper's Excellent book, BEHOLD A PALE HORSE,
So your idea of excellent is reprinting the Russian antisemitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and telling readers to replace Jews with Illuminati? Sonny, you need to greatly improve your taste in literature.
> They you may avail yourselves of the HARD EVIDENCE and Learn HOW FAR > OFF BASE Professional LIARS, Damage Control, and Change Agents Really > are.
Standard kook response: critics are always part of whatever plot the kook rails against. I have no doubt that Cooper, or Freedom, or some other of Cooper's few deluded supporters added to me to their list of "government agents" a long time ago.
> >If you still don't believe me, see the good evidence I have > >provided, unless you are a close-minded fool.
> Another Manipulation Tactic of the Enemy...DO THIS or DON'T DO THAT or > you're a (fill in the Insulting and Disparaging term(s) here). DON'T > FALL FOR IT!
Of course you should realise Bill, if that is you, that no one on sci.skeptic is likely to take even 0.000000000000000000000001% of your crap seriously.
> >(I'm not talking about > >some people I have sent this paper to.) > > There are several differences between Cooper and me.
> Now THAT IS True...Mr. Cooper is a Real American Patriot!
Funny, most of the "Real American Patriots" I'm familiar with didn't believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories.
> >1. Cooper- Supports stories with loosely-based evidence and lies.
> That's the Euphemism for Direct Hits RIGHT ON Target.
To be on target you need an actual target in the first place, not fantasies like Cooper's.
The thing I can never figure out about folks like Cooper, or his supposed supporters, is how they can cry wolf over and over again without seeing that their boogiemen aren't coming thru the door. I have no doubt that should his physical and mental health hold up Kookoo will be bemusing and confusing conspiracy fans 20 years from now.
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 02:21:53 GMT, ad...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca posted:
>In article <39f466a7.13598...@news2.ripco.com>, > Free...@Liberty.com wrote: >> Oh, it sure looks like Mr. Cooper has once again hit the Enemy HARD, >> right where it hurts most...'cause just look at the attempts at DAMAGE >> CONTROL...again:
>That you Bill?
No, I'm not Bill Cooper, or Linda Thompson either. I'm another Patriot.
>Really, I find it hard to imagine anyone takes ole Bill >Kookoo seriously anymore.
Bill Cooper deals with some Very Serious matters. If he is to be called names, then let them be Real American Patriot.
>> On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:13:27 GMT, cydon...@my-deja.com posted:
>> > Who is Milton William Cooper? He is one of the biggest liars of the >> >20th century.
>> Claim of a LIAR right there.
>Hyperbole certainly.
Only from the poster to whose message I responded.
>And I think he's wrong, as I'm sure Cooper >believes the crap he spews.
Cooper 'spews' the Truth.
>> Now the Tactic of the STACKED DECK, the ONLY way the Enemy Will Play >> because it's the ONLY WAY THE ENEMY CAN PLAY! What hard evidence? >> None...stacking the deck. For those of you who are NOT Change Agents, >> I suggest you read Bill Cooper's Excellent book, BEHOLD A PALE HORSE, >So your idea of excellent is reprinting the Russian antisemitic forgery >The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and telling readers to replace Jews >with Illuminati?
Those Protocols are those of the Illuminati, Exactly as Bill Cooper presents them in his book, and NOT of Jews. I've read all of them and immediately noticed that the usage of such words as Jews, and Goyim appears most awkward and simply did NOT fit the overall style of the writings, as though they were actually substituted, EDITED in later as an afterthought. Those are the ONLY forged parts. Furthermore, this Tactic is nothing new. The Enemy Regularly Employs it when they want to Divert danger away from themselves and towards the innocent. In other words, the Enemy selects what amounts to Human Shields composed of the innocent Victims, often Jews, many of whom have Tragically come to Accept Victimhood as more or less a 'natural' part of their heritage. This condition serves Tyrants very well as evidenced by their constant Exploitation of it, such as by the ADL for instance.
>Sonny, you need to greatly improve your taste in >literature.
No! That's how we got into this MESS...by trying to improve taste. Reality often SUCKS, and the Truth is often Ugly...but ugly or not, the Truth Must be told, that we Will Know it and that it Will set us FREE! THAT is Bill Cooper's Mission, and that of Many Millions of Patriots all across this Land.
>> They you may avail yourselves of the HARD EVIDENCE and Learn HOW FAR >> OFF BASE Professional LIARS, Damage Control, and Change Agents Really >> are.
>Standard kook response: critics are always part of whatever plot the >kook rails against.
But only a kook would Deny the Dangerous Loss of Freedom in this Once Free Country...which Indeed IS something to rail against, and REPAIR!
>I have no doubt that Cooper, or Freedom, or some >other of Cooper's few deluded supporters added to me to their list >of "government agents" a long time ago.
Possible but not very likely. And keep this in mind, we're not the ones you have to worry about slaughtering you and your loved ones in your church, or on your Own Property, or kicking in your door in the early morning hours, to throw your pregnant wife down the stairs, causing her to miscarry, or stomping your pets to death, ransacking the place, destroying, robbing, and Terrorizing. We're the ones who Oppose such Vileness. To Fail to Discern that Fact is Tragic Indeed!
>Of course you should realise Bill, if that is you,
It's not. I'm a Different Patriot.
>that no one on >sci.skeptic is likely to take even 0.000000000000000000000001% of your >crap seriously.
Assuming that you speak for them, then I'd venture to say that in that case, they're the ones with the problem...since ANYone can Choose to be Worthless human Flotsam. But who would want to?
>> Now THAT IS True...Mr. Cooper is a Real American Patriot!
>Funny, most of the "Real American Patriots" I'm familiar with didn't >believe in ridiculous conspiracy theories.
None of the ones I know do either...although they do Understand, because they've Researched and Studied the REAL Conspiracies, NOT 'theories'...and the only thing Truly Ridiculous is Denying their existence.
>> >1. Cooper- Supports stories with loosely-based evidence and lies.
>> That's the Euphemism for Direct Hits RIGHT ON Target.
>To be on target you need an actual target in the first place, not >fantasies like Cooper's.
The amount of 'flak' Confirms Multiple Direct Hits.
>The thing I can never figure out about folks like Cooper, or his >supposed supporters, is how they can cry wolf over and over again >without seeing that their boogiemen aren't coming thru the door.
They're NOT crying wolf. And the Object to sounding the Alarm is so there's enough time to Prepare Before those JackBooted 'boogiemen' get to the door!
>I >have no doubt that should his physical and mental health hold up Kookoo >will be bemusing and confusing conspiracy fans 20 years from now.
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