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JFK Assassination Forum Archives -- Misc. Topics Of Interest (Part 46)

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David Von Pein

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Mar 10, 2008, 12:10:08 AM3/10/08
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ARCHIVED JFK ASSASSINATION FORUM POSTS OF INTEREST (PART 46):

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A STRANGE BREED, THESE CONSPIRACY BUFFS:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/798e81a441daabe7
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/3b3cbbc8195870af
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/174481996fe4a81b
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1b6523753554009c
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/dac0e8fe6ce03515
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/99ca5b0b33554fda
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2YL59N142YC2J/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdMsgNo=13&cdPage=2&cdSort=oldest&cdMsgID=MxLXF18DNL64U3#MxLXF18DNL64U3


A WEAK BLADDER IS A DREADED CURSE WHEN IT COMES TO REGULARLY DEALING
WITH CONSPIRACY-LOVING KOOKS!:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/661474c1e331365b
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e169e6ddba27587b


TIPPIT TIMING:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1419655ca0c1a4ad
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/8ca1d1684cbdc500


THE SECRET SERVICE AT LOVE FIELD:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/3c93a9d5f7be065c
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/b81fdab53113e968


THE "BOH" (YET AGAIN):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1bbe5fc26ead3ec0


THE WINDSHIELD OF SS-100-X:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/15abe41f60087b75


THE LENGTHS THAT CONSPIRACISTS WILL GO:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4de52ce3d716ffcc


1966 INTERVIEW FEATURING MARK LANE AND WILLIAM BUCKLEY:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/66f5a890daf809d1


CE399, CE567, AND CE569:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/2987e7fcb9bb4902


CE139, CE142, AND CE2640:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/3fe2938f7ac1acc9


"RECLAIMING HISTORY" AND DAVID S. LIFTON'S SILLINESS:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1d9a56d3180c16de

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David Von Pein

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Mar 11, 2008, 5:12:23 PM3/11/08
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www.amazon.com/review/R3TP03S17M1K2E/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdMsgNo=4&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdMsgID=Mx1YFJ9MOKG98IO#Mx1YFJ9MOKG98IO


www.amazon.com/review/R3TP03S17M1K2E/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdMsgNo=6&cdPage=1&cdSort=oldest&cdMsgID=MxQMR73Q37PGK4#MxQMR73Q37PGK4

>>> "Paul Groody, Oswald's mortician, affirmed on national radio that Federal agents placed Oswald's prints on the rifle AT the funeral home! Groody's revelation now makes clear why the authorities said they found Oswald's palm print AFTER he was dead..." <<<


<large chuckle>

So Dean Jackson (a Mega-CT-Kook, btw, for those unfamiliar with this
bird), by way of his last silly-sounding post, thinks that the FBI
marched into the funeral parlor WITH OSWALD'S RIFLE IN HAND, and (in
front of mortician Groody!) lifted Oz's prints off his dead body and
placed a palmprint on the rifle right there at the funeral home!

Is that about it, Dean? Because that seems to be the idiotic inference
you were making in your last message.

Also (by way of footnote):

Has there ever been a more brain-dead batch of plotters in the history
of "brain-dead plotters" than this motley group of so-called "JFK
Assassination Conspirators" that so many CT-Kooks believe were running
around doing goofy and impossible-to-get-away-with things in the wake
of John F. Kennedy's murder in 1963?

E.G.:

1.) The Lifton-esque "body-stealing".

2.) The body-"altering" (re-arranging JFK's head wounds within hours
of his death, and before his autopsy).

3.) The Oswald print-planting nonsense in the funeral home. (When no
such action was required to convict the bastard at all! There's tons
of other evidence showing LHO was a double-killer. But these boobs
want to run the big risk of going to the funeral home and getting
prints off the dead Oswald to place on the rifle? Boy, what feebs.)

4.) A "3-Gun, But Only 1 Patsy" assassination plan, which is the
theory put on the table by filmmaker Oliver Stone and many others,
including the producers of 1973's "Executive Action", which is a film
that preceded Stone's by 18 years but that ALSO alleges the very same
kind of idiotic "Multi-Gun, 1-Patsy" theory to kill the President.
Just....goofy as all get out. Why more people fail to see the built-in
hazards and sheer IDIOCY of this type of "Patsy" plot is just mind-
boggling.

5.) And a new one recently (by B.D. Andersen): JFK faked his own
death...and was merely wearing a "pyrotechnics device" on his head
that exploded in Dealey Plaza. And an imposter Kennedy popped up out
of a "secret compartment" in the limo WHILE THE CAR WAS ON ITS WAY TO
PARKLAND. (Oh, my bladder.)

And the kooky CT beat goes on. And always will...I guess.

But thank heavens we have "RECLAIMING HISTORY" to fall back on when
confronted with the above five points of utter ridiculousness.

Vincent Bugliosi, I (once again) salute you.

www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/3200858-post.html

David Von Pein

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May 6, 2008, 7:25:43 PM5/6/08
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An ironic reminder provided by the man Lee Harvey Oswald killed:

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"Reason does not always appeal to unreasonable men." -- John F.
Kennedy; November 16, 1961

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David Von Pein

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May 9, 2008, 11:27:28 PM5/9/08
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www.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/thread/be8a6acba7043ca8/11c2fdcee4d76558?#11c2fdcee4d76558

>>> "So...you're saying that because we ASSUME it's possible for someone to sneak into an area of a building and steal some tape and some stiff brown paper, and not be noticed, and then fold them up beneath his clothes and carry them around, and not be noticed, and then sneak them out of his pants in a really small home and not be noticed, and then sneak into the garage of this really small home filled with other people and not be noticed, and then turn this tape and paper into a bag and not be noticed, and then put a rifle in this bag, we should accept that this happened, even if the only two witnesses to see this bag insisted the bag was too small to hold the rifle." <<<

I guess maybe we should take this "And not be noticed" scenario one
step further (and deeper into the "absurd" category) with respect to
the assassins that many CTers think were able to sneak into the TSBD
and up to the 6th Floor AND NOT GET THEMSELVES NOTICED by anybody,
including the EXTRA people on that very 6th Floor from which "they"
would be attempting to frame their "patsy".

The "extra" people being the floor-laying crew, who would not normally
have been occupying the 6th Floor for an extended period of time
during a regular work day in the TSBD, but they did on November 22.
Meaning that the "real killers" up on that 6th Floor would have
undoubtedly had MORE Depository workers than normal to contend with
that day as they tried to go about the task of shooting the President
and framing that schnook named Lee Harvey for the crime they
committed.

So, it's more amazing luck for the non-LHO assassins (whoever they
might have been).

And then more luck comes the "real killers'" way....when, after the
assassination, every one of these "real killers" who occupied the
sixth floor at 12:30 managed to NOT BE NOTICED by Sandra Styles or
Vickie Adams, or anybody else in the building after the murder.*

* = And if you want to believe Oliver Stone's fairy tale (as some want
to do), I think Oliver has FOUR "technicians"/plotters up there on the
6th Floor planting evidence, etc. (it's at least three anyway), with
tool boxes to hide the rifle that the boobs decided to shoot Kennedy
with, even though they're trying to frame LHO with the Carcano. (Great
Patsy Plot there indeed. If you're a brain-dead plotter, that is.)

Did the good fortune that was bestowed upon that (imagined) band of
reckless assassins/patsy-framers in Dallas in '63 ever run out--even
to this day?

Evidently, the answer to that last inquiry is a robust "No", to be
sure.


Question:

Who's more likely to GET THEMSELVES NOTICED? ---

1.) A batch of strangers with tool boxes who had to go UP six flights
to the next-to-top floor within the Book Depository, construct the
Sniper's Nest around the southeast corner window, hide somewhere from
Bonnie Ray Williams while Williams ate his lunch on that very same 6th
Floor (all four "real TSBD killers" managed to hide from Williams, per
Oliver Stone, evidently), shoot JFK, disassemble their weapon(s),
"plant" all of the LHO-incriminating evidence, and then travel back
DOWN those same six flights again in order to get out of the building?

Or:

2.) Lee Harvey Oswald carrying around some innocuous wrapping paper
THE DAY BEFORE the President's assassination takes place?

The high-tech, galaxy-hopping travellers in Star Trek can't hold a
candle to the "cloaking" devices employed by Oliver Stone's Depository
bad guys. I think even most CTers can agree with me there.


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