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LET'S DO "LUNCH" (OSWALD STYLE)....WE'LL LOSE WEIGHT; THAT'S FOR SURE

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David Von Pein

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Apr 10, 2007, 4:58:47 PM4/10/07
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>>> "Did Oswald take a lunch that day? Yes or no?" <<<

No. Of course he didn't. And you know damn well he didn't (or at least
you should know this fact). Wes Frazier verified it. In fact,
Frazier's testimony in MULTIPLE ways verifies the fact that LHO took
NO LUNCH BAG to work on 11/22.

1.) Frazier only sees the large bag. No "lunch" type (small) bag at
all.

And the biggie:

2.) Frazier specifically ASKED Lee about his lunch. Let's listen:

Mr. BALL - Did you notice whether or not Lee had a package that looked
like a lunch package that morning?

Mr. FRAZIER - You know like I told you earlier, I say, he didn't take
his lunch because I remember right when I got in the car I asked him
where was his lunch and he said he was going to buy his lunch that
day.

Mr. BALL - He told you that that day, did he?

Mr. FRAZIER - Right. That is right.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazierb1.htm

>>> "You saw nothing suspicious about other TSBD workers bringing their rifles to work that week." <<<

I would have if one of those rifles had been found on the 6th Floor
the day of the President's death...and would have been tied 65 ways to
next Sunday to the assassination, via shells at the window, a bullet
in the hospital where the shooting victims were taken, and bullet
fragments in the freakin' car too!

(Somebody give me that 'rolleyes' icon again. I keep losing mine when
it's most needed--like now.)

Anthony Marsh

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Apr 10, 2007, 5:15:28 PM4/10/07
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David Von Pein wrote:
>>>> "Did Oswald take a lunch that day? Yes or no?" <<<
>
> No. Of course he didn't. And you know damn well he didn't (or at least
> you should know this fact). Wes Frazier verified it. In fact,
> Frazier's testimony in MULTIPLE ways verifies the fact that LHO took
> NO LUNCH BAG to work on 11/22.
>

So you say today. But on another day when it is convenient for you you
will claim that he took his lunch to work with him that morning.
Here's what McAdams says about the lunch bag:

> What did Oswald say about the bag?
> When questioned by police officers after his arrest, Oswald told them that he did not bring a long bag to work and the only thing he brought to work was a bag lunch (4H217-8). Frazier testified that Oswald did not bring a lunch to work the day of the assassination. He even asked Oswald where his lunch was, since Oswald always brought a lunch, and Oswald told him he was going to buy his lunch that day (2H228). Oswald lied about the lunch bag when there was little reason to do so. Oswald lied about bringing a long package, even when the police officers suggested it contained curtain rods (7H305, 4H218).
>
> Was Oswald trying to weasel his way out of suspicion?


> 1.) Frazier only sees the large bag. No "lunch" type (small) bag at
> all.
>
> And the biggie:
>
> 2.) Frazier specifically ASKED Lee about his lunch. Let's listen:
>
> Mr. BALL - Did you notice whether or not Lee had a package that looked
> like a lunch package that morning?
>
> Mr. FRAZIER - You know like I told you earlier, I say, he didn't take
> his lunch because I remember right when I got in the car I asked him
> where was his lunch and he said he was going to buy his lunch that
> day.
>
> Mr. BALL - He told you that that day, did he?
>
> Mr. FRAZIER - Right. That is right.
>

Again, we should suspect the cops of lying about what Oswald said.
Now, is that all there is to the story? Knowing McAdams as we do and
knowing you as we do, we can suspect that there is more to it than
either of you admit. What's missing? Marina. Gee, I wonder why.

> Mr. RANKIN. Do you know whether your husband carried any package with him when he left the house on November 22nd?
> Mrs. OSWALD. I think that he had a package with his lunch. But a small package.

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Todd W. Vaughan

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Apr 10, 2007, 5:45:24 PM4/10/07
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You mean this?

Mr. RANKIN. Do you know whether your husband carried any package with
him when he left the house on November 22nd?
Mrs. OSWALD. I think that he had a package with his lunch. But a small
package.

>
>
> > Mr. RANKIN. Do you know whether your husband carried any package with him when he left the house on November 22nd?
> > Mrs. OSWALD. I think that he had a package with his lunch. But a small package.
> >http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazierb1.htm
>
> >>>> "You saw nothing suspicious about other TSBD workers bringing their rifles to work that week." <<<
>
> > I would have if one of those rifles had been found on the 6th Floor
> > the day of the President's death...and would have been tied 65 ways to
> > next Sunday to the assassination, via shells at the window, a bullet
> > in the hospital where the shooting victims were taken, and bullet
> > fragments in the freakin' car too!
>
> > (Somebody give me that 'rolleyes' icon again. I keep losing mine when

> > it's most needed--like now.)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


David Von Pein

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Apr 10, 2007, 6:50:30 PM4/10/07
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>>> "So you say today. But on another day when it is convenient for you, you will claim that he took his lunch to work with him that morning." <<<

It's not why *I* say; it's what Wesley Frazier vividly spells out in
his WC testimony.

As I said, the "NO LUNCH" scenario is double-strength via Frazier's
testimony. .....

It would still be fairly obvious that LHO had "no lunch" with him on
11/22 when Frazier saw Oswald (based on Frazier seeing only a large
non-lunch-type bag). But the "no lunch" scenario is buttressed to
impossible-to-debunk strength via the Frazier passages I quoted
earlier. Because via the fact that Frazier got Oswald HIMSELF to tell
him that he was "going to buy his lunch" on Nov. 22, the "no lunch"
scenario is therefore proven a fact via Oswald's OWN LIPS.

So, unless you want to make Frazier out to be a rotten liar (and what
for??), then Lee Harvey Oswald HIMSELF told us he took no lunch to
work on 11/22/63.

Without Frazier specifically asking Oswald about his lunch (and
getting the response he did get from Lee Harvey), CTers could use a
loophole re. the "lunch" matter, by contending that Oz's lunch was
inside the one large package Frazier saw. (That's still a pretty tiny
loophole, IMO; but I suppose it's certainly possible that Oz could
have had a sandwich and other lunchables inside the larger bag.)

But Frazier's specific question of asking Oswald where his lunch was
negates that loophole forever.

Final Result.......

LEE HARVEY OSWALD TOLD US HE DIDN'T TAKE HIS LUNCH TO WORK ON NOVEMBER
22.

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aeffects

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Apr 10, 2007, 7:01:27 PM4/10/07
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I detect a feign... David!

tflor...@gmail.com

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Apr 11, 2007, 10:43:59 PM4/11/07
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HEREAFTER THIS SHALL BE KNOWN AS THE SINGLE LUNCH THEORY! WHICH PASSED
RIGHT THROUGH VON PEIN'S HEAD WITHOUT STRIKING ANYTHING IMPORTANT AND
EMERGED INTACT!
Tflo

David Von Pein

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Apr 11, 2007, 11:00:20 PM4/11/07
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So, TFLO, are you saying you think Oswald DID bring his lunch to work
on 11/22??

If so, why did he tell Wes Frazier "I'm going to buy my lunch today"?

Is Frazier a liar when he recalled that specific comment being made by
Oswald in response to a specific question THAT FRAZIER ASKED OF
OSWALD?

Again---Oswald (himself) told us he had no lunch with him on
11/22/63.

And why would LHO have any reason to lie about his lunch? His lunch
can't kill JFK (unless Tom-Sack's wife made it perhaps; then JFK would
die instantly from food poisoning; but that's another discussion
altogether).

tomnln

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Apr 11, 2007, 11:23:02 PM4/11/07
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Anthony Marsh

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Apr 11, 2007, 11:52:33 PM4/11/07
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David Von Pein wrote:
>>>> "So you say today. But on another day when it is convenient for you, you will claim that he took his lunch to work with him that morning." <<<
>
> It's not why *I* say; it's what Wesley Frazier vividly spells out in
> his WC testimony.
>
> As I said, the "NO LUNCH" scenario is double-strength via Frazier's
> testimony. .....
>
> It would still be fairly obvious that LHO had "no lunch" with him on
> 11/22 when Frazier saw Oswald (based on Frazier seeing only a large
> non-lunch-type bag). But the "no lunch" scenario is buttressed to
> impossible-to-debunk strength via the Frazier passages I quoted
> earlier. Because via the fact that Frazier got Oswald HIMSELF to tell
> him that he was "going to buy his lunch" on Nov. 22, the "no lunch"
> scenario is therefore proven a fact via Oswald's OWN LIPS.
>
> So, unless you want to make Frazier out to be a rotten liar (and what
> for??), then Lee Harvey Oswald HIMSELF told us he took no lunch to
> work on 11/22/63.
>

Again, are you basing this on the lies from the cops? Or only on
Frazier? So, unless you want to make Marina out to be a rotten liar (and
what for???????) then apparently Lee Harvey Oswald took a small bag
presumably with his lunch to work.
And I have not seen you hesitate to call Frazier a liar when he said the
bag was short, not long enough to hold the rifle.

> Without Frazier specifically asking Oswald about his lunch (and
> getting the response he did get from Lee Harvey), CTers could use a
> loophole re. the "lunch" matter, by contending that Oz's lunch was
> inside the one large package Frazier saw. (That's still a pretty tiny
> loophole, IMO; but I suppose it's certainly possible that Oz could
> have had a sandwich and other lunchables inside the larger bag.)
>

I suppose a good defense lawyer could use the smallest available
loophole to establish reasonable doubt.

> But Frazier's specific question of asking Oswald where his lunch was
> negates that loophole forever.
>
> Final Result.......
>
> LEE HARVEY OSWALD TOLD US HE DIDN'T TAKE HIS LUNCH TO WORK ON NOVEMBER
> 22.
>

OK, just want to make sure what you are basing it on.

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