Re: Ruby and Oswald "queer for each other"
curtjester1
> On 1 Aug 2008 20:45:45 -0400, curtjester1 <curtjest...@hotmail.com>
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> >On Aug 1, 10:19 am, Peter Fokes<jp...@toronto.hm> wrote:
> >> Bugliosi has little patience for Chuck Giancana's version of the JFK
> >> assassination. Chuck wrote a book entitled Double Cross. Bugliosi
> >> quotes an excerpt:
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> >> from Reclaiming History (p. 913-14)
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> >> <quote on>
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> >> It seems that one day after pasta at Chuck's home three years after
> >> the assassination, older brother Sam told Chuck what really went down.
> >> ... Jack Ruby ... was put in charge of overall coordination of the
> >> assassination in Dallas because he was Sam's representative in Dallas.
> >> (Ruby and Oswald, Sam added, "were queer for each other.")
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> >> Oh, by the way, Chuck, who often speaks fondly of his late brother,
> >> Sam, informs the reader in his book that Sam had Marilyn Monroe
> >> murdered with a lethal dosage of sedatives, and had also been behind
> >> the murder of Robert Kennedy in California in 1968. I'd hate to read
> >> what type of book Chuck Giancana would write about his deceased
> >> brother if he hadn't been so fond of him.
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> >> <quote off>
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> >> :-)
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> >> Peter Fokes,
> >> Toronto
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> >One of Ruby's gals says the same thing between Oswald and Ruby.
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> You don't mean Rose Cherami, do you?
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> If so, she was not "one of Ruby's gals." She claimed to be, but there
> is no evidence she was.
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> She said Ruby and Oswald "had been shacking up for years."
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> That's bizarre.
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I don't think it would be exactly bizarre as it had come up in his trial
that he was a "latent homosexual". I was thinking it might have been a
Nancy Perrin Rich or an Esther Mash. One of LHO's servicemen I believe
said the same of LHO.
Anyway, here is a discussion at the Education Forum, where a few Ruby-
homosexual statement/testimony was related: Also in there was a link to
some JFK files where one of the click on #'s was just on Ruby-homosexual
testifiers. I haven't the time right now to look it up, but anyone here
can.
JFK Files that were posted in Education Forum (One has list of Ruby-is-
a-homosexual --- Testifiers)
Education Forum (Jack Ruby) --- Homosexual in the Topic
CJ
Gil Jesus
Senator.
How did Martin Schrand die ? Let's just say that Oswald was on his
knees when it happened.
We've already established, through witness videos, that Oswald and
Ruby knew each other.
It's also been established that General Walker was a homosexual (after
being busted for trying to solicit an off-duty Dallas cop in a men's
room) and that Ruby was visiting Walker's house in the spring of 1963.
We know that Walker was running guns through the South, not the least
of which was his supplying of weapons to the rioters at "Ole Miss",
who were resisting attempts by the Kennedy administration to register
James Meredith.
We know that Ruby was part of that southern gun-running operation.
We know that Oswald knew Ferrie, a known homosexual pedophile, because
Oswald had Ferrie's library card on his person when arrested. In
addition, witnesses claimed to see Oswald in Clinton, Louisiana in the
company of Ferrie in the summer of '63.
Witnesses claimed that while Oswald was in New Orleans, his contacts
included homosexuals.
We know that Ruby took a trip to New Orleans in the summer of '63.
We also know that Clay Shaw was a homosexual.
Could Oswald and Ruby have been homosexual lovers ? Very possible.
curtjester1
I kinda wonder how close Rose Chermie might have been to that
potential situation to make her statement about Ruby and Oswald?
Daniel Powers a fellow marine at Keesler AFB thought Lee was a
homosexual because he had feminine characteristics and stayed away
from him.
It was also reported that he went to a transvestite club/bar in Yamato
Japan, and that he went to The Flamingo a gay bar in Tijuana, Mexico
while stationed in California.
It would be too, Gil, interesting to see if there was a major
homosexual connection, or a sexual practice's club with potential
conspirators. I think Murchison was known to hang with guys, and we
know JEH and his partner, since you alluded to General Walker.
CJ
David Von Pein
>>> "Could Oswald and Ruby have been homosexual lovers? Very possible." <<<
God, what a kook you are.
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> >>> "Could Oswald and Ruby have been homosexual lovers? Very possible." <<<
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> God, what a kook you are.
perhaps you have more experience with the life-style, eh?
aeffects
oh, and when you eliminate the obvious what's left no matter how
painful is probably the truth. I'm surprised as a Vinnie daBug acolyte
your not aware of this research truism.... then again, research is
beyond your grasp, yes?
Gil Jesus
> >>> "Could Oswald and Ruby have been homosexual lovers? Very possible." <<<
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> God, what a kook you are.
Let's go through my posting one point at a time, David and we'll see
who the "kook" is:
I SAID:
Of course Ruby was queer, he was living with his boyfriend, George
Senator.
With all of the women at his disposal, was Ruby living with a man
named George Senator, or was he not ?
I SAID:
How did Martin Schrand die ? Let's just say that Oswald was on his
knees when it happened.
Even your own LN "Oswald did it" Norman Mailer suggested such a
possibility in his Oswald book.
I SAID:
We've already established, through witness videos, that Oswald and
Ruby knew each other.
SOURCE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcVM_UbBIyI
I SAID:
It's also been established that General Walker was a homosexual (after
being busted for trying to solicit an off-duty Dallas cop in a men's
room) and that Ruby was visiting Walker's house in the spring of
1963.
SOURCE
"Walker, then 66, was arrested on June 23, 1976 for public lewdness in
a restroom at a Dallas park and accused of fondling an undercover
policeman.[21][22][23] He was arrested again in Dallas for public
lewdness on March 16, 1977.[24][25] He pled no contest to one of the
two misdemeanor charges, was given a suspended, 30-day jail sentence,
and fined $1,000."[26]
[21}^ "General Walker Faces Sex Charge: Right-Wing Figure Accused in
Dallas of Lewdness", United Press International, New York Times, July
9, 1976, p. 84.
[22]^ "Catch as Catch Can," Time, July 26, 1976.
[23]^ "Trial for Walker Routinely Passed", Dallas Morning News,
September 15, 1976, p. D4.
[24]^ "Police Arrest Retired General for Lewdness," Dallas Morning
News, March 17, 1977, p. B18.
[25]^ "General Walker Free on Bond", New York Times, March 18, 1977,
p. 8.
[26]^ "Judge Convicts, Fines Walker", Dallas Morning News, May 23,
1977, p. A5.
I SAID:
We know that Walker was running guns through the South, not the least
of which was his supplying of weapons to the rioters at "Ole Miss",
who were resisting attempts by the Kennedy administration to register
James Meredith.
SOURCE
"Walker organized protests in September 1962 against the enrollment of
African-American James Meredith at the racially segregated University
of Mississippi. His public statement on September 29:
This is Edwin A. Walker. I am in Mississippi beside Gov. Ross Barnett.
I call for a national protest against the conspiracy from within.
Rally to the cause of freedom in righteous indignation, violent vocal
protest, and bitter silence under the flag of Mississippi at the use
of Federal troops. This today is a disgrace to the nation in 'dire
peril,' a disgrace beyond the capacity of anyone except its enemies.
This is the conspiracy of the crucifixion by anti-Christ conspirators
of the Supreme Court in their denial of prayer and their betrayal of a
nation.[4]
After a violent, 15-hour riot broke out on the campus, on September
30, in which two people were killed and six federal marshals were
shot, Walker was arrested on four federal charges, including
insurrection against the United States. Walker posted bond and
returned home to Dallas, where he was greeted by a crowd of 200
supporters.[5] After a federal grand jury adjourned in January 1963
without indicting him, the charges were dropped. Because the dismissal
of the charges was without prejudice, the charges could have been
reinstated within five years.[6]"
[4]^ "Walker Demands a 'Vocal Protest,'" New York Times, Sept. 30,
1962, p. 69.
[5]^ "Crowd Welcomes Ex-Gen. Walker's Return to Dallas," Dallas
Morning News, Oct. 8, 1962, sec. 1, p. 1.
[6]^ The Strange Case of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker.
I SAID:
We know that Ruby was part of that southern gun-running operation.
SOURCE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b90d3TIKIw
I SAID:
We know that Oswald knew Ferrie, a known homosexual pedophile, because
Oswald had Ferrie's library card on his person when arrested. In
addition, witnesses claimed to see Oswald in Clinton, Louisiana in the
company of Ferrie in the summer of '63.
SOURCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAbncgeXl7s
I SAID:
Witnesses claimed that while Oswald was in New Orleans, his contacts
included homosexuals.
SOURCE:
"Mr. Andrews said that Oswald was accompanied by a total of
approximately five persons during the three visits. He said that he
knew two of the subjects by sight, and that on two occasions he was
accompanied by a young man of Mexican extraction (not Cuban), whom he
did not know. He said he believed that all of Oswald's companions were
homosexuals who possibly frequent the Gaslight Bar in the French
Quarter, where such individuals congregate."
http://www.jfk-online.com/ce3094.html
I SAID:
We know that Ruby took a trip to New Orleans in the summer of '63.
SOURCE:
"In June 1963, Ruby visited New Orleans, where he obtained the
services of a stripper known as "Jada," ....
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ruby4.htm
I SAID:
We also know that Clay Shaw was a homosexual.
SOURCE:
"This Bureau received allegations as early as 1954 that Clay Shaw,
former managing director of the International Trade Mart in New
Orleans, Louisiana, was a homosexual. One source informed the bureau
on March 19, 1964, that he had relations of a homosexual nature with
Clay Shaw. The source described Shaw as a brilliant and powerful man,
given to sadism and masochism in his homosexual activities. On
February 24, 1967, we received information from two other sources that
information available to them led them to believe Clay Shaw has
homosexual tendencies. "
RIF : 124-10040-10311
FBI # : 62-109060-4720
Letterhead Memorandum March 2, 1967
http://www.jfk-online.com/jpssfbidcs.html
FINALLY, I CONCLUDED:
Could Oswald and Ruby have been homosexual lovers ? Very possible.
SOURCES:
All of the above sources.
Notice, David, the use of sources. Some video, some printed newspaper
and there are one or two WC/FBI reports in there.
AND NO REFERENCES TO ANY ONE OF MY PREVIOUS POSTS. NOW TELL THE GOOD
PEOPLE WHICH OF MY SOURCES ARE "KOOKY" AND PLEASE PROVIDE THE
DOCUMENTATON TO REFUTE WHAT I HAVE POSTED.
Or risk being seen as a know-nothing "kook" yourself.
David Von Pein
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