A Replay Of A Classic Battle With A Conspiracy Kook
David Von Pein
>>> "By Saturday afternoon, Lee {AKA: THE SAINT BOYS LOVE TO ADMIRE} had started to come to grips with the fact that his handler and his agency had abandoned him." <<<
Connected with Ringling Brothers perhaps?
And Oswald had his own "agency" now, eh? He was smarter than we all
thought. I always pictured him as a member of a 1-member FPCC chapter.
>>> "He had seen a fake photo that seemed to show him with the alleged murder weapon in his hands." <<<
Oz had a memory problem too (evidently). Seeing as how he SIGNED ("To
George") one of the SAME BATCH of B.Y. photos....they cannot be
"fake", now can they?
The cops forged Ozzie's signature on the DeMohrenschildt pic...right
kook? Right.
>>> "After seeing that photo he realized that he was being framed." <<<
Only AFTER seeing the photo, eh? Then I guess he was checking his
pistol to see if it was in working order on 10th Street, and J.D.
Tippit just accidentally got in the way of the four shots. Otherwise,
why would Oz START killing people BEFORE he even "realized that he was
being framed"?
Think up another lie, Walt. Or just revise this one. Either will do.
Neither will be factual anyway...so what the hay.
>>> "On Saturday evening, he {SAINT O-MAN} placed a long distant phone call to a Mr. Hunt
in (Atlanta?)." <<<
Don't ask me -- this is your made-up conspiracy/patsy plot. So you
tell me. Atlanta? Alright...go with that. (I'd have said Chicago
though. It's that Toddlin' Town, after all.)
>>> "Of course Mr. "Hunt" could have been anywhere in the country, because the intelligence community had the capability to make it appear the call was received in at Atlanta when in reality the the call had actually been received in Langley, Va." <<<
And with the WAYBACK MACHINE, Oswald should have been able to
transport himself quickly back in time to October 1929....just in time
to prevent the Stock Market Crash (similar to his heroic actions of
trying to SAVE THE PRESIDENT in Dallas in '63, you see).
This is fun -- just makin' shit up.
Continue, kook.....
>>> "At anyrate....The Warren Commission painted a picture of Oswald as a tight lipped, unsociable, loner, who talked only in grunts and terse statements..." <<<
Yep. That's our boy. No question about it. Except when he gets talky
with shady lawyers from Atlanta (or Langley, or Walla Walla, or
Kooksville...where was Hunt again?).
>>> "One only has to listen to his debate with Bringuier to know that he was pretty damned smart and could easily carry a conversation and debate." <<<
Yep. He sure could. And one only need to listen to that debate to also
know that Oswald was a total fruitcake/screwball -- just the type of
nut to want to murder JFK on behalf of brilliant Fidel.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/stuck3.htm
>>> "The phone call to Mr."Hunt" lasted about a half hour (that's a long
time for some one who was antisocial)..." <<<
Is this anything like your proven "OSWALD COULDN'T HAVE KILLED TIPPIT"
timeline. You know, full of undefined, shitty parameters that can
never be tied together cohesively?
Yeah, thought so.
Continue, kook...
>>> "...so you can bet that Lee didn't call Mr."Hunt" to discuss the weather." <<<
Junie DID need shoes. Perhaps that was discussed.
>>> "Since it was obvious to Lee that he was being railroaded..." <<<
Oh, obviously. He should have realized that he was being railroaded
when that bitch Ruth Paine and that other fucking whore Linnie Mae did
Oswald that awful favor of recommending him for that Depository job.
>>> "As Whaley described the situation..." <<<
The cab driver? WTF?
Oh, well...maybe the kook can unravel this for the weak-minded LNers.
>>> "...he wanted to know why, "Someone" had not come forward to his defense..." <<<
Of course, a lawyer DID come to the DPD to aid Oswald (without Oz
sending for anybody). Oswald told the man he wasn't needed. Go figure.
>>> "It was obvious to Lee that he was in hot water..." <<<
Yeah, he probably did think that. Normally when you murder 2 people
(esp. a President), they don't start hangin' medals on you. But maybe
Oswald was only worried about not having lawyers banging at his jail
cell to defend his sorry ass, huh?
>>> "...and his agency was doing nothing to help him." <<<
Federal Aviation Agency? Or was it an Agricultural Agency of some ilk?
Or is this the made-up agency you spoke of earlier?
>>> "During that long conversation he must have warned Mr "Hunt" that he
hadn't spilled the beans yet..." <<<
And wasn't about to spill any, even though he now KNOWS he should
(what with his sudden realization that he's been made the "patsy" by
Mr. Eyebrows, David Ferrie (and his goon squad).
(Or did you want to pick out your own Patsy-Framing Crew in this post,
Walt-Kook? By all means...wind up from the rubber, and let rip a good
one.)
>>> "...but if they didn't get off their ass and send some help quickly he was gonna start talking..." <<<
Even though he'd already made his "I'm just a patsy" hallway
declaration by this time. He was just tossing out a few "clues" to the
cops, reporters, and the millions watching on TV. Right? He was gonna
save the big "Ferrie Did It" salvo for 11:22 AM on Sunday. But he was
popped 1 minute before he could talk. Poor patsy.
>>> "This phone call was his death warrant..." <<<
I thought Marrion Baker had Oz's Death Warrant in his pocket (in the
form of Baker's gun) when Baker stormed the TSBD on Friday?
And wasn't it you who also said just yesterday that Gerald Hill ALSO
was supposed to rub out the patsy in the theater?
Question --- How many brain-dead plotters does it take to rub out just
one simple-minded patsy before the bastard can talk??
Answer --- A good-sized number, per the CT-Kooks. Baker failed, Hill
failed, Ruby failed on his first attempt (probably).
The Patsy Crew finally had to go with Plan 9 From Kooksville, and kill
the bum in the police station on LIVE TELEVISION.
THAT did the cover-up a lot of good, huh?
Continue, kook....
>>> "They sealed his lips for good the next morning." <<<
Oh well...he had unattractive "tight lips" anyhow. So, who cares.
Walt's post is CLASSIC kook stuff -- i.e., take a vague reference to a
phone call and build a conspiracy around something that's TOTALLY
UNKNOWN IN NATURE!
You can't beat these kooks. They'll give you a laugh....every time.
David Von Pein
>>> "You've been hooked by Allen Dulles, who said, "We can easily dupe Americans like Von Pein who is to [sic] stupid to read". <<<
At least I can spell. Unlike some kooks.
And here we have additional "Classic Early 2007 CT Hits" from Walt-
Kook! (And it looks like I made it into a Dulles quote, too. Nice
stuff.)
This kook seems to be saying that "THE CONSPIRACY/COVER-UP" **IS** in
the WR (and Dulles, et al, admitted it was in there)....but nobody
except you true-blue kooks KNOWS it's in there...right?
LOL.
Nice of the WC to throw down some bread crumbs to the plot/cover-up
right there in the very report that's supposedly meant as the FRONT
LINE of the cover-up, though, wasn't it Walter?
LOL.
<snipping rest of kookshit from a kook who is sinking ever faster into
the CT hole>
Kind of a shame too. To waste a perfectly good keyboard and mouse on a
nutcase like this Walt guy.
Oh well.
Soldier on, you fucked-up wack-o.
David Von Pein
>>> "WHOA THERE you ornery SOB.... I say WHOA!!..... Lets [sic] get the facts straight and then se [sic] if you can do simple aritmetic [sic]. .... {STUFF ABOUT ALTGENS AND WILLIS EXCISED, BECAUSE IT'S MEANINGLESS WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMELINE DISCUSSION AT HAND} .... Therefore any way you slice it the the total lapsed time for the shooting was no longer than 5.6.seconds. Now take your B.S. and go try to peddle it to someone who doesn't know the FACTS." <<<
DVP SAID:
Lest anyone forget these tidbits......
Walt The Mega-Kook is the same nutcase who seems to know these
"FACTS" (among many, MANY others almost as idiotic):
1. JFK was hit (neck-thru-back) at Z161 approx.
2. Brennan saw a west-end shooter and (incredibly) it took a kook
named Walt to figure out this fact, per Brennan's own WC testimony, no
less!! ONLY Walt could see this basic fact within the words of
Brennan's testimony!
3. The Walker shooting was only a "staged assassination attempt". No
harm; no foul.
4. Oswald very likely never shot Tippit either. (This is the item that
cements ANY person who believes it as a "Mega-Kook for life".)
So, if a person thinks he could possibly get a reading of the true
FACTS from Walter, that person is residing in Fairy Tale Land (or in
Kooksville...one or the other).
Walt
Psssst... Pea Brain... Those FACTS you mention don't come from me,
they come from the records. Sorry if those FACTS don't fit with your
IMAGINED scenario, but sooner or later yer gonna hafta understand that
you've been duped by the slick politicians of the W.C.
Walt
David Von Pein
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A CTer BLUBBERED:
>>> "This new HBO 10-part series adaptation of the book "Reclaiming History" is supposed to support the Warren Commission report that Oswald did the shooting alone and unaided. Regurgitating all the official lines and focusing on all the circumspect evidence is about as scientific as the Dan Vinci Code. I find it a cruel insult to all thinking people around the world. I have read the Warren Report, and Reclaiming History and Case Closed, and I find them all misleading, untruthful, and whitewashes of true history." <<<
DVP SAID:
Awwwww! Poor thing. Your conspiracy world's being rocked. What a
shame. Cry us all a river, please.
>>> "President Kennedy was assassinated as a result of a plot. Anyone who cannot conclude that suffers from impairment or has not reviewed the evidence collected by the Warren Commission, the HSCA, and the ARRB in addition to the documents unearthed by private citizens." <<<
Third option -- Such a person who resides in the "LN" camp is merely
not prone to being a conspiracy-loving kook (i.e., a person who
latches on to as much flimsy, half-baked chaff as they can, while
ignoring or distorting the piles of wheat that's piled up against the
front door).
Conspiracy theorists suffer from a sickness. Simple as that. Or, to
quote a very, very knowledgable JFK assassination researcher named
"Bud" (who posts at another forum, and always speaks volumes of common
sense and logic whenever he opens his mouth)......
"Obsessing about conspiracy, and seeing evidence of conspiracies
everywhere, has become a major part of many people's lives. It is a
symptom of the mental illness I referred to. .... None of these things
have anything to do with whether Oz took his rifle to work, and shot
JFK. I could give far more examples of unstable human beings doing
unstable things then you could ever produce examples of conspiracies."
-- "Bud"; 08/23/2004
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