Re: Dale Myers debunks his own work.
aeffects
> Hidden within the recent attacks on my character by Dale Myers, posted on
> the alt.assassination.jfk newsgroup by David Von Pein, are several
> acknowledgments by Myers that I was correct about some key issues.
>
> In Von Pein's May 1, 2008 post of an email by Myers, Myers writes "The
> movements of JBC and the jumpseat (as shown in the ABC/ History Channel
> program and the Discovery Channel program), demonstrating the differences
> between prominent conspiracy-based illustrations and reality, were done in
> unison for clarity. Any charges to the contrary are false."
>
> This is as good as a confession that Myers knew the jumpseat was not 6
> inches in from the door when he created animation showing it to be 6
> inches from the door. He now insists the center of Connally was 6 inches
> inboard of Kennedy, but that the jump seat on which he was riding was only
> 2 1/2 inches in from the door. I wonder how many millions of people,
> seeing Myers animation, and seeing Connally sitting comfortably in the
> middle of his chair in a direct line of a bullet exiting Kennedy's neck,
> suspected Myers and ABC and the Discovery Channel knew Connally was not
> sitting comfortably in his chair in the direct line of fire, but was
> inexplicably scooted way to his left, hanging off the edge of his seat? I
> wonder how many of them would have believed Myers' trajectories if it
> showed Connally in this position? I wonder how many of them would feel
> deceived to find out that Connally's sitting comfortably in the middle of
> his seat was merely a Myers invention designed to "clarify" things for
> them?
>
> Some might call this an out-and-out fraud perpetrated on the public.
>
> In both Von Pein's May 1, 2008 email denouncing my criticisms, and a May
> 8, 2008 post of a commentary by Myers from his website, Myers acknowledges
> another mistake as well. In an effort to debunk my criticism of his using
> distorted images in his overhead views of the single-bullet theory, Myers
> has asserted:
>
> "(Speer) continues to claim that the Connally (JBC) figure was shrunk (as
> was the jumpseat) to accomodate the SBT. He now uses images of my work
> culled from the Discovery Channel program "Beyond the Magic Bullet" to
> promote this nonsense. Even a cursory look at the images should tell
> anyone with a brain that the images used by Mr. Speer are at an angle to
> the viewer (i..e, the right side of the image is falling away from the
> viewer). This is due to the fact that the images are being filmed directly
> off my computer monitor and that the camera filming these images is
> viewing the monitor at a considerable angle. This can be seen in any of
> the wide angle shots in which I am visible alongside the monitor (none of
> which, BTW, are included in Speer's presentation). If Mr. Speer had shown
> his viewers those wide angle views, it would be obvious that the reason
> JBC (and the jumpseat) appears smaller is because of the camera/monitor
> relationship."
>
> While Myers attempted to insult my intelligence, he, in fact, overshot and
> hit his supporters as well. I'd come forward with my complaints about the
> distorted images years ago. No one to my knowledge, including Myers, until
> this response, had ever suggested the images were distorted because the
> animation--the animation shown round the world to convince people the
> single-bullet trajectories worked, mind you--was shot at an angle from a
> computer monitor. David Von Pein, one of my Myers' biggest supporters,
> still has trouble believing it.
I was informed (by 6th Floor Museum [a few years back]) Myers used Z-
frame images captured from a 1" VT. If that is true, and I suspect it
was a canard, incredibly dumb, when 4x5 trannies were available... not
to mention videotape pulldown issues... all of course would lend to
any, ANY inherent film blur problems, especially concerning film
camera panning. Supposedly direct from a film lab in San Francisco.
The same SF film lab (Monaco Film Lab completed work on the alleged in-
camera Z-film. At onetime, the labs website touted the fact they did
color correction work on the "JFK assassination, original Zapruder
film --
> Lost in the catcalls of Myers' supporters (ha ha ha--Myers called Pat
> stupid--ha ha ha) are the ramifications of his assertion. By admitting the
> images used in the program were distorted, Myers is as much as admitting
> that his whole presentation in 2004's Beyond the Magic Bullet was
> irrelevant. No, it's actually much worse. Since the program's creators
> added a trajectory angle onto Myers' distorted figures that lined up
> perfectly with their wounds, Myers is as much as admitting that the
> single-bullet theory--which he set out to prove some years ago--and which
> he calls the "single-bullet fact," does not work on undistorted figures.
>
> While I've given Myers a hard time, and have received a substantial amount
> of abuse in return, I believe Myers' acknowledgment of the failure of his
> animation to demonstrate the single-bullet theory, was probably worth it.
> Now we can all stop pretending the alignment of Kennedy and Connally, and
> thus the likelihood of the single-bullet theory, has been "proven".
I suspect the very reason why DM Lightwave Zapruder film-"Case Closed"
project files aren't available for other reseachers to critically
review and verify Myers on-camera claim of, "Case Closed"... Appears
HBO needs to review this too!
> Pat Speer, May 08, 2008
YoHarvey
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/jfk_truthers_finally_losing_gr.html
aeffects
focus, son.... the thread topic..... gird those ONI (Office of Naval
Intelligence) loins
YoHarvey
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Healy? Being recognized as the clown you are, when did sticking to a
thread subject ever have any bearing on you? You demonstrate the
brains of jello. What do ya think Healy? Drugs from Nam or diseases
from the wife? Which one?
Gil Jesus
>
> Healy? �Being recognized as the clown you are, when did sticking to a
> thread subject ever have any bearing on you? �You demonstrate the
> brains of jello. �What do ya think Healy? �Drugs from Nam or diseases
Ed, what's this post have to do with the JFK assassination ?
justm...@gmail.com
Moron
Gil Jesus
wrote:
>
> > Ed, what's this post have to do with the JFK assassination ?
>
> Moron
Joey, what's this post have to do with the JFK assassination ?
YoHarvey
Chico? What do YOU have to do with intelligence on this planet?
tomnln
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Moron
justme missed these AGAIN>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
aeffects
> stupid--ha ha ha) are the ramifications of his assertion. By admitting the
> images used in the program were distorted, Myers is as much as admitting
> that his whole presentation in 2004's Beyond the Magic Bullet was
> irrelevant. No, it's actually much worse. Since the program's creators
> added a trajectory angle onto Myers' distorted figures that lined up
> perfectly with their wounds, Myers is as much as admitting that the
> single-bullet theory--which he set out to prove some years ago--and which
> he calls the "single-bullet fact," does not work on undistorted figures.
>
> While I've given Myers a hard time, and have received a substantial amount
> of abuse in return, I believe Myers' acknowledgment of the failure of his
> animation to demonstrate the single-bullet theory, was probably worth it.
> Now we can all stop pretending the alignment of Kennedy and Connally, and
> thus the likelihood of the single-bullet theory, has been "proven".
>
oh-wee I bet emails from Myers to the Nutter crowd were measured by
the ton when thias one hit .john's board....
Good work Pat Speare...
aeffects
It's fully understood trolls need to change the subject.... they have
no choice, its support Dale poo-poo Myers, David Von Penis, and Vinnie
daBug(liosi) or its the street -- they've got a good thing going,
after all at $6 bucks an hour they're not gonna give up the best job
they've ever had...... LMFAO!
aeffects
> On May 16, 5:37 pm, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 16, 5:12�pm, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Ed, what's this post have to do with the JFK assassination ?
>
> > > Moron
>
> > Joey, what's this post have to do with the JFK assassination ?
>
> Chico? What do YOU have to do with intelligence on this planet?
from our resident Office of Naval Intelligence Viet-nam commando, Yo-
Haveno-balls..... ROTFLMFAO!
> http://rossleysignorance.wetpaint.com/page/Gilbert+Jesus%3A++aka+Robc...
Gil Jesus
>>
> Chico? �What do YOU have to do with intelligence on this planet?
>
Ed, what does this post of yours have to do with the JFK
assassination ?