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Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 14, 2009, 6:41:24 PM10/14/09
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In article <4ad61110...@news.supernews.com>,
john.m...@marquette.edu (John McAdams) wrote:

> http://jfkresearch.com/forum3/index.php
>
> At first blush, it might seem that I would be quite negative on
> conspiracy-oriented forums. But interesting things happen even on a
> slanted playing field.
>
> Hell, I've learned a fair number of worthwhile things from Harry
> Livingstone.
>
> Judyth was on the DellaRosa forum for a while (mostly by proxy, if
> memory serves), and got a pretty critical reception.
>
> In fairness, I've seen accounts here from very credible people about
> being arbitrarily "locked out" for challenging some of the crazier
> notions on that board. So I'm not going to get all teary-eyed about
> the forum being gone.
>
> .John
>
> --
> The Kennedy Assassination Home Page
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Thanks for that ringing endorsement John.

Judyth generated her own reception by promising to post her evidence and
never doing so for a variety of lame excuses (e.g. she was too sick, the
sun was too bright, someone hijacked her hard drive, etc).

As for others being "locked out", no one was ever booted for what they
believed or failed to agree with regardless of what they report after the
fact. They were booted for failing to adhere to the published rules of
the forum, most commonly for ridiculing other members or using the "sharp
stick in the eye" technique. IOW they tried to provoke flame wars. With
over 400 members, I dare say no two are in lock step agreement. From Day
1 I had zero tolerance for troublemakers. Day 1 was 11 years ago. In the
past 5 to 6 years banishment became a rare occurrence. Some people just
naturally find it possible to play nice and get along with others -- and
some can't.

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Oct 14, 2009, 10:49:30 PM10/14/09
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On Oct 14, 5:41 pm, Rich DellaRosa <richd...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <4ad61110.7808...@news.supernews.com>,

Nonsense. Some were booted for refusing to be bullied by the likes of
Fetzer and White.

Michele61

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Oct 14, 2009, 10:58:20 PM10/14/09
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Rich,

Is the board closed for good? We hope not.

If so, is there another forum you could recommend?

Frequent readers and infrequent posters,
Michele & Brad


aeffects

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Oct 15, 2009, 12:43:43 PM10/15/09
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On Oct 14, 7:40 pm, Sandy McCroskey <gwmccros...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 2:10 pm, john.mcad...@marquette.edu (John McAdams) wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://jfkresearch.com/forum3/index.php
>
> > At first blush, it might seem that I would be quite negative on
> > conspiracy-oriented forums.  But interesting things happen even on a
> > slanted playing field.
>
> > Hell, I've learned a fair number of worthwhile things from Harry
> > Livingstone.
>
> > Judyth was on the DellaRosa forum for a while (mostly by proxy, if
> > memory serves), and got a pretty critical reception.
>
> > In fairness, I've seen accounts here from very credible people about
> > being arbitrarily "locked out" for challenging some of the crazier
> > notions on that board.  So I'm not going to get all teary-eyed about
> > the forum being gone.
>
> > .John
>
> > --
> > The Kennedy Assassination Home Pagehttp://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>
> Gee, maybe they realized they've been wrong all these years... quietly
> folding their tents to fade into the night...
> (Ha ha. Fat chance!)

and the child utters from the wings... -- dread the lone nut-troll....
ROTFLMFAO

> /sm

tomnln

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Oct 15, 2009, 1:17:56 PM10/15/09
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aeffects

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Oct 15, 2009, 1:18:44 PM10/15/09
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oh stop it Pamela.... you got your dander up because Doug Weldon is an
old hand there, cut the bullshit...

aeffects

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Oct 15, 2009, 1:18:52 PM10/15/09
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On Oct 14, 7:49 pm, "jfk2...@gmail.com" <jfk2...@gmail.com> wrote:

oh cut the bullshit Pamela... Doug Weldon and his excellent work re
the limo is one of your problems, not Jack White, not Jim Fetzer nor
any bullying nonsense -- you're the late comer to the LIMO
investigation and... Judyth didn't fair to well on the JFKResearch
forum, those two things are/were your problem...

Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 15, 2009, 1:19:23 PM10/15/09
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In article
<229d6660-c17f-4326...@f21g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
"jfk...@gmail.com" <jfk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not hardly. Even those two don't agree on many things.

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Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 15, 2009, 1:19:30 PM10/15/09
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In article
<a49d7d34-e005-4676...@g19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
Michele61 <DwnMi...@aol.com> wrote:

> Rich,
>
> Is the board closed for good? We hope not.

In time we'll see.


>
> If so, is there another forum you could recommend?

No, not really.

>
> Frequent readers and infrequent posters,
> Michele & Brad

Meantime, check these out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSghy2TkIY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtZqautUPPw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0vayhmQNU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tsoLRI4tE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JjP-Kz0Ic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4BXBSGcT9w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A5XctPrtfI

Much appreciated Michele and Brad!

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Greg Jaynes

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Oct 15, 2009, 1:26:12 PM10/15/09
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On Oct 14, 5:41 pm, Rich DellaRosa <richd...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <4ad61110.7808...@news.supernews.com>,

Wrongo.......
I was locked out for posting the Badgeman is a Coke bottle theory
on THIS forum because it made Jack White look like a fool.
But I did not post it for the purpose of making him and Dunkle look
like fools. That was just the natural extension.

I asked you several times to cite what infraction I committed
on your board. You never had an answer because there was no
infraction. You were just cowtowing to White.

I'm surprised your forum lasted this long. I thought you said
you were going to die at some point around the time you started
locking people out. Remember you were asking for donations?

I never saw how things turned out. Let's see there was you and
Bill Miller and Scott something or the other all claiming to have
seen some other version of the Zapruder film. All this in the middle
of the furor kicked up by Fetzer and Mantik and their crew.
I never believed you or Bill or Scott and as far as I know, none
of you ever backed that up. This is the kind of thing you think
is a stick in the eye, when someone rationally asks you to prove
what you are saying. I can't remember Scotts last name. He was the
one claiming to see the word "sex" all over the frames of the Z-film.

Well anyway, your forum and antics will go down in the annals of
buffology. It will long be remembered.

Respectfully,
Greg Jaynes


Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:12:03 PM10/15/09
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In article
<189e52ef-1fe4-43ad...@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Greg Jaynes <jay...@mail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 14, 5:41?pm, Rich DellaRosa <richd...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > In article <4ad61110.7808...@news.supernews.com>,

> > ?john.mcad...@marquette.edu (John McAdams) wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >http://jfkresearch.com/forum3/index.php
> >
> > > At first blush, it might seem that I would be quite negative on

> > > conspiracy-oriented forums. ?But interesting things happen even on a


> > > slanted playing field.
> >
> > > Hell, I've learned a fair number of worthwhile things from Harry
> > > Livingstone.
> >
> > > Judyth was on the DellaRosa forum for a while (mostly by proxy, if
> > > memory serves), and got a pretty critical reception.
> >
> > > In fairness, I've seen accounts here from very credible people about
> > > being arbitrarily "locked out" for challenging some of the crazier

> > > notions on that board. ?So I'm not going to get all teary-eyed about


> > > the forum being gone.
> >
> > > .John
> >
> > > --
> > > The Kennedy Assassination Home Page
> > >http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
> >
> > Thanks for that ringing endorsement John.
> >
> > Judyth generated her own reception by promising to post her evidence and
> > never doing so for a variety of lame excuses (e.g. she was too sick, the
> > sun was too bright, someone hijacked her hard drive, etc).
> >
> > As for others being "locked out", no one was ever booted for what they
> > believed or failed to agree with regardless of what they report after the

> > fact. ?


> > They were booted for failing to adhere to the published rules of
> > the forum, most commonly for ridiculing other members or using the "sharp

> > stick in the eye" technique. ?


>
> Wrongo.......
> I was locked out for posting the Badgeman is a Coke bottle theory
> on THIS forum because it made Jack White look like a fool.

Mistaking a man for a bottle made YOU look like a fool.

> But I did not post it for the purpose of making him and Dunkle look
> like fools. That was just the natural extension.
>
> I asked you several times to cite what infraction I committed
> on your board. You never had an answer because there was no
> infraction. You were just cowtowing to White.

I never cowtowed to Jack or anyone else. Do all 80+ year old men
intimidate you?

How many others believed Badgeman was a Coke bottle?


>
> I'm surprised your forum lasted this long. I thought you said
> you were going to die at some point around the time you started
> locking people out. Remember you were asking for donations?

Sorry to disappoint you. I nearly died in 2005 during an 18 day stay in
the hospital when my kidneys and liver shut down. Do you enjoy ridiculing
the affirm? I'm no longer ambulatory -- ain't that a hoot?

>
> I never saw how things turned out. Let's see there was you and
> Bill Miller and Scott something or the other all claiming to have
> seen some other version of the Zapruder film.

I have -- on 3 different occasions. I don't believe that Miller or
Myers have.

>All this in the middle
> of the furor kicked up by Fetzer and Mantik and their crew.
> I never believed you or Bill or Scott and as far as I know, none
> of you ever backed that up. This is the kind of thing you think
> is a stick in the eye, when someone rationally asks you to prove
> what you are saying. I can't remember Scotts last name. He was the
> one claiming to see the word "sex" all over the frames of the Z-film.

I did back it up and documented it 6 years ago. Myers hasn't posted on
my forum in about 8 years. Miller was booted 9 years ago.


>
> Well anyway, your forum and antics will go down in the annals of
> buffology. It will long be remembered.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Not many will agree.
>
> Respectfully,

No respect evident.

> Greg Jaynes

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tomnln

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:15:38 PM10/15/09
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BOTTOM POST;

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Respectfully,
Greg Jaynes
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Greg, if you really wanted to discuss the evidence/testimony with
conspiracy believers, you could have participated in my "Live Audio Chat
Room" that has been available to you for the past 10/11 Years.

SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/invitation.htm

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:22:19 PM10/15/09
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What? Are you trying to tell me whom I should call a bully? I did
not include Weldon in the original line-up. He seems more of a wimp.
But if you insist...:-0

jfk...@gmail.com

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:22:35 PM10/15/09
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On Oct 15, 12:19 pm, Rich DellaRosa <richd...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> In article
> <229d6660-c17f-4326-a2f6-f1235dfbf...@f21g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,

Surely you jest. Are you completely ignorant of the fact that it was
Fetzer and White who originally tried to foist the nameless witness
off onto the research community?

jfk...@gmail.com

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:22:49 PM10/15/09
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With all due respect, Greg, Rich seems to be in denial that there was
any bullying going on at his group, much less that respected
researchers such as yourself got tossed out simply for exposing the
wacky theories of Fetzer or White.

Gil Jesus

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:29:23 PM10/15/09
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Rich:

There are some of us out here who want to thank you for your website
and appreciate the work you've done over the years. Unlike McAdams,
who allows one-way flaming in his newsgroup, I've always been
impressed with your "no flaming" policy regardless of who it was.

These birdbrains and disinformation nutcases make their way onto JFK
forums with the intent of destroying the forum. As I'm sure you know,
this has been the plan of the CIA from day one, to destroy the critics
of the WC.

http://i28.tinypic.com/29qaxw3.jpg

That includes you, brother.


As always, my best wishes for you going forward,


Sincerely, Gil Jesus

Sam McClung

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:35:47 PM10/15/09
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<jfk...@gmail.com> wrote in part


> I did
> not include Weldon in the original line-up. He seems more of a wimp.


weldon is a perfect gentleman and an american hero

Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:46:05 PM10/15/09
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In article
<52f84270-7474-411c...@q14g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Gil Jesus <gjj...@aol.com> wrote:

Thanks Gil. Don't wander too far. There's a reason to this madness.

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Sam McClung

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Oct 15, 2009, 6:49:38 PM10/15/09
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"Gil Jesus" mentioned:

> These birdbrains and disinformation nutcases make their way onto JFK
> forums with the intent of destroying the forum.

well, it's like this, when one goes to a skkkewl, they have certain
rekkkwired courses, one being social inkkkwiry

so the teech sez your mission for today, class, is more of the same, now get
out there and spread hate and discontent

if you don't follow suit your chance of going from a dot to a sphere in that
flatland is minimal, initiation into the kkkult fails, and unpaid education
loans result, and unless your dad is a coffin pilot you ain't gonna dodge
the ensuing complexity

so in the final analysis, they are only doing what they have been told to
do, obfuscate

Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 15, 2009, 10:51:55 PM10/15/09
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In article
<dbf7f4e8-e582-4f66...@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
"jfk...@gmail.com" <jfk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dream on Limo Lips, your grasp on reality is slipping.

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Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 15, 2009, 10:52:09 PM10/15/09
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In article
<c23aad59-6249-4a52...@s6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
"jfk...@gmail.com" <jfk...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wimp?? Maybe Doug isn't as manly as you Pam. It doesn't make him a bad
person.

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David Von Pein

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Oct 15, 2009, 11:33:30 PM10/15/09
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>>> "Dream on Limo Lips. .... Maybe Doug isn't as manly as you[,] Pam." <<<

LOL. Looks like Mr. DellaRosa has decided to get into the name-calling
game now (unlike his more polite posture from previous years).

Two good ones above, I must admit.

Are "Pamela's" lips shaped like the grill of X-100?

Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 16, 2009, 6:18:46 AM10/16/09
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In article
<73bf52d7-93e7-445b...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

Bob Vernon AKA Dr Truth used to call her that. I don't know what's
worse Dave, name calling or her unrealistic recollections. Actually, I
don't really approve of name calling -- I was merely speaking the
vernacular.

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Osprey

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Oct 16, 2009, 10:43:02 AM10/16/09
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On Oct 15, Greg Jaynes wrote:
> Well anyway, your forum and antics will go down in
> the annals of buffology. It will long be remembered.

Strange doings the cusp ol' November,
Who can say which was what,
That was clear is now chimera
In Flimflamalot.

Where hocus became the focus,
Mostly bottom rot,
Plenty to disgust us
in Flimflamalot.

Zapruder film seems a collusion,
Allerationists reveal the plot,
All it takes is self-dellusion
in Flimflamalot.

Flimflamalot! Flimflamalot!

Jack White court fool overblown,
With claims eclipsing Groden,
Left the meek besot
For once there was a spot
That for one brief unshining moment was known
As Flimflamalot.

timstter

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Oct 16, 2009, 11:09:51 AM10/16/09
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On Oct 16, 1:51 pm, Rich DellaRosa <richd...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> In article
> <dbf7f4e8-e582-4f66-a35a-96b810dec...@o21g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,

LOL! DellaRosa has put into words what I ALWAYS wanted to say!

Brown's spruiking of the Judyth nonsense has left her without a leg to
stand on, credibility wise.

KUTGW, Pammy!

LMFAO Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

Greg Jaynes

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Oct 16, 2009, 11:18:03 AM10/16/09
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -


Thanks Tom, these other guys could learn from your
approach. Whether you are right or wrong in your
interpretations, at least you usually document
what you are saying.

Respectfully,
Greg Jaynes


Greg Jaynes

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Oct 16, 2009, 1:49:40 PM10/16/09
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On Oct 15, 5:12 pm, Rich DellaRosa <richd...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> In article
> <189e52ef-1fe4-43ad-b3bb-c64498eb3...@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>  Greg Jaynes <jay...@mail.com> wrote:
>

> > I'm surprised your forum lasted this long. I thought you said
> > you were going to die at some point around the time you started
> > locking people out. Remember you were asking for donations?
>
> Sorry to disappoint you.  I nearly died in 2005 during an 18 day stay in
> the hospital when my kidneys and liver shut down. Do you enjoy ridiculing
> the affirm? I'm no longer ambulatory -- ain't that a hoot?


Well Rich, 2005 was long after my dealings with you. But no, I
have no ill wishes toward you in any manner especially in regards
to your health. I had as much fun being booted off the JFK Disinfo
board as I would have had being on it.

Respectfully,
Greg Jaynes


Greg Jaynes

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Oct 16, 2009, 2:26:21 PM10/16/09
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Ha! That's pretty clever.

RGJ

Steve

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Oct 16, 2009, 6:44:27 PM10/16/09
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> Greg Jaynes- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The fact that Gil Jesus is singing the praises of DellaRossa's forum
speaks volumes of the credibility of his defunked site. I need say no
more.

cdddraftsman

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Oct 16, 2009, 7:08:33 PM10/16/09
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On Oct 15, 10:19 am, Rich DellaRosa <richd...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> In article
> <a49d7d34-e005-4676-a4a9-011738688...@g19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  Michele61 <DwnMich...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Rich,
>
> > Is the board closed for good?  We hope not.
>
> In time we'll see.
>
>
>
> > If so, is there another forum you could recommend?
>
> No, not really.
>
>
>
> > Frequent readers and infrequent posters,
> > Michele & Brad
>
> Meantime, check these out:
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSghy2TkIY
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtZqautUPPw
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0vayhmQNU
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-tsoLRI4tE
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JjP-Kz0Ic
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4BXBSGcT9w
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A5XctPrtfI
>
> Much appreciated Michele and Brad!
>
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Some thoughts :

IMO anyone who would support the likes of a Jim Fetzer deserves losing his
platform to spew hatred against Uncle Sam .

BTW is Fetzer doing both gigs? JFK and 911?

I hear he got bodily kicked out of the JFK circuit * , started to do
alwful on the 911 hoaxing ** since the downturn in the economy . People
can't afford the luxury of chic leftwing viewpoints anymore .

"We don't want another Oswald here"

* Point one : Fetzers JFK theory(s) could only have meaning if JFK was
killed by many different ppl , for many different reasons & in many
different ways . That's not a very good way of defining history or to
convince anyone that you're serious . Anyone other than cult followers
that is . After being ejected he set his sights on the 911 tragedy and
overnight became an expert on all things hoaxing in that energing cottage
industry.

** Point two : His latest gig ? The USG felled the WTC Towers with space
based lasers and the planes every one of the thousands of witnesses saw
from a thousand angles ...well those weren't planes at all ... gulp ...
they were holograms . That went over like a lead balloon I'll betcha .

Not only is Fetzer a outragious liar, he's so outragious it makes me ears
hurt just to listen to him . What that man needs isn't a PHD, he needs
consuling from a someone who has a PHD and you know what kind of Dr. I'm
talking about.

Steve

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Oct 16, 2009, 7:13:47 PM10/16/09
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On Oct 15, 3:12 pm, Rich DellaRosa <richd...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> In article
> <189e52ef-1fe4-43ad-b3bb-c64498eb3...@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/http://www.jfkresearch.com- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I agree 100% that your site will go down in history as an example of
the axiom that "Some people will believe ANYTHING" if posted on the
Internet. Your site will be linked to carnival sideshows, and scam
sales pitches.

David Von Pein

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Oct 16, 2009, 7:16:03 PM10/16/09
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All you need to do in order to know that Rich DellaRosa is a mega-kook
when it comes to the subject of the assassination of President Kennedy
is to listen to the following hilarious radio program from 6/12/09.

Rich spouts his beliefs in all kinds of crazy nonsense with respect to
JFK's autopsy--e.g., body alterations and the "2 caskets" silliness,
and the "no brain in his head" idiocy, and the "body bag" crappola,
etc.

And I imagine Rich DellaRosa believes in Z-Film alteration too (since
he's in bed with James H. Fetzer most of the time).

For a barrel of laughs at the expense of 2 really silly-sounding
conspiracy clowns (DellaRosa and Fetzer), go here:


www.jfkresearch.com/Real_Deal_06_12_09.mp3

Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 16, 2009, 9:39:03 PM10/16/09
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In article
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David Von Pein <davev...@aol.com> wrote:

All of what I mentioned on the show and documented in the 60+ page PDF
file is referenced and in concert with several eyewitnesses.

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David Von Pein

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Oct 16, 2009, 9:48:24 PM10/16/09
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>>> "All of what I mentioned on the show and documented in the 60+ page PDF file is referenced and in concert with several eyewitnesses." <<<

And all of it is utter nonsense that only a total kook could even
BEGIN to believe.

Rich DellaRosa

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Oct 16, 2009, 11:06:29 PM10/16/09
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David Von Pein <davev...@aol.com> wrote:

None of it is nonsense. The official story is nonsense.
But you're entitled to your opinion.

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Gil Jesus

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Oct 16, 2009, 11:16:41 PM10/16/09
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On Oct 16, 9:48�pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

> And all of it is utter nonsense that only a total kook could even
> BEGIN to believe.


Only a total kook would create 40 or 50 JFK assassination blogs on
line.

Only a total kook would spend 16 hours a day on line posting BS about
the assassination..

Only a total kook would avoid public appearances.

Only a total kook would hide his identity.

Only a total kook would get booted out of JFK forum after JFK forum.

Only a total kook would call everyone who disagrees with him "Mr.
Kook".

You are the BIGGEST coward and the BIGGEST KOOK who ever posted
anything on the assassination. So before you start throwing stones at
other people, you better cover up that glass house of yours.

Because here's a bulletin for you Von Pein.............YOU'RE NOT
NORMAL.

David Von Pein

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Oct 16, 2009, 11:29:32 PM10/16/09
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>>> "None of it is nonsense. The official story is nonsense. But you're entitled to your opinion." <<<

Thank you, Rich. And you are certainly entitled to yours. As kooky and
crazy as it is, you're certainly entitled to that opinion.

Sam McClung

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Oct 16, 2009, 11:29:35 PM10/16/09
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David Von Pein

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Oct 17, 2009, 1:21:16 AM10/17/09
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>>> "Only a total kook would create 40 or 50 JFK assassination blogs online." <<<

Close, but not quite. The current number (as of this writing on
October 17th, 2009) is only 37.

www.google.com/group/Reclaiming-History/browse_thread/thread/28d2b874f20d7511


>>> "Only a total kook would spend 16 hours a day online posting BS about the assassination." <<<

One man's "BS" is another man's truth. (Go ask Rich DellaRosa and
James H. Fetzer about that.)


BTW, a person I greatly admire and respect (Vincent T. Bugliosi) spent
a lot more time writing about the JFK case during the last two decades
than I have. Granted, he wasn't posting messages "online" (because he
doesn't even have a computer to do so), but there were many weeks
during those two decades from 1986 to 2007 when he worked anywhere
from 80 to 100 hours per week while writing "Reclaiming History: The
Assassination Of President John F. Kennedy".

So, based on Gil's "16 hours a day" measuring stick, I guess Gil must
think that Mr. Bugliosi resides in the very same boat I'm in -- the
"Total Kook" boat.

Right, Gil?


www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4a366cdfbdd66e3b

>>> "Only a total kook would avoid public appearances." <<<

Or, maybe someone who avoids public appearances is someone who doesn't
really relish speaking in public. Could that be a possible alternate
explanation, Gil?

As if anyone would ever want a nobody like me to speak at some
"public" function anyway (outside of "Black Op Retard Radio"). I kinda
doubt it.

>>> "Only a total kook would hide his identity." <<<


LOL. I like this one on Gil's list of silliness. Gilly thinks I'm
"hiding my identity", even though my full name is on full display at
almost every forum or online location I visit.*

Has Dave Healy's nonsense about how I supposedly utilize several
"aliases" rubbed off on you, Gil?

* = And the reason I'm still known by only my initials ["DVP-1"] at
the IMDB.com forum is because that forum won't allow anyone to change
their username after creating their profiles there. And I created my
IMDB profile on July 28, 2003, which was long before I ever even made
one single post to the "JFK (1991)" board at IMDB.com.

If IMDB would allow me to switch my username, I certainly would do so,
and I'd then use my full name. Although that might not be allowed for
another reason....and that's because some conspiracy nitwit was
impersonating me by using my full first and last name at that IMDB
forum for several months earlier this year.

After several complaints from me, I finally was able to get IMDB to
suspend that asshole's account permanently. So I'm not sure whether
I'd even want to use my full name at that forum anymore, because most
people would probably think it was the idiot impersonator popping up
out of the woodwork again.


www.imdb.com/user/ur2587797/boards/profile

>>> "Only a total kook would get booted out of JFK forum after JFK forum." <<<


Nah. You've got it backwards, Gil-Kook. I must have been doing
something right in order to have been booted out of various Kennedy
forums over the last few years.

You, Gil, should certainly realize that the "all-CT" forums (like
Debra Conway's JFK-Lancer, Wim Dankbaar's asylum, and John Simkin's
conspiracy den) don't want to hear any "LNers" talk for any extended
period of weeks/months/years about the true facts and the actual
evidence associated with the JFK case at their conspiracy-worshipping
places of business.

I have to give a tip of the cap to Duncan MacRae, however, at
www.JFKAssassinationForum.com (at least I think it's Duncan who runs
that forum). There are a few LNers who post there on a regular basis
(e.g., myself, Paul May, and Bill Brown), and I myself have never been
censored or raked over the coals by Mr. MacRae for being too harsh or
critical or abusive (etc.).

Duncan certainly seems to be a person who believes in unrestrictive
free speech when it comes to the topic of JFK's assassination, and I
salute him for that.


>>> "Only a total kook would call everyone who disagrees with him "Mr. Kook"." <<<


I don't use the preface "Mister" too often. Only occasionally.

And I normally don't drag out the "K" word unless the person I'm
talking to believes in something really, really stupid and outlandish
and impossible -- such as believing that Oswald was innocent of
shooting both John Kennedy and J.D. Tippit.


A person who truly believes that LHO was completely innocent of
shooting both JFK and Tippit (despite the evidence to the contrary
that is staring that person in the face every day) is someone who
deserves to be called a "kook" in my view.


Therefore, of course, virtually every CTer who regularly posts at the
alt.conspiracy.jfk newsgroup can, indeed, be rightfully placed in the
"Kook" drawer, that's for sure.


>>> "You are the BIGGEST coward and the BIGGEST KOOK who ever posted anything on the assassination." <<<


Does that mean, Gil, that I am considered an ever bigger "kook" in
your eyes than, say, Brian David "www.MyGodImHit.com" Andersen?

Or: James "The Z-Film Was Wholly Fabricated" Fetzer?

Or: David "Rosemary Newton Is A Figment Of David Von Pein's
Imagination" Healy?

Or: Rich "The Plotters Tipped Their Hand And Called Parkland THIRTY
MINUTES BEFORE KENNEDY WAS EVEN SHOT" DellaRosa?

Or: David "There Were Fake Shrubs In Dealey Plaza" Lifton?

Or: Walt "Howard Brennan DESCRIBED A West-End TSBD Shooter" Cakebread?

Or: Donald "Danny Arce Shot JFK" Willis?

Or: John "There Were Two Oswalds In The TSBD Who Looked Exactly Alike
On 11/22/63" Armstrong?

Or: Jack "I Never Saw An Assassination-Related Photo That I Think
Wasn't Faked" White?


Etc., etc. (to conspiracy-land infinity).


Gil should really THINK before he posts. (Which is something he
rarely, if ever, does here at the acj playpen.)


>>> "So before you start throwing stones at other people, you better cover up that glass house of yours. Because here's a bulletin for you Von Pein.............YOU'RE NOT NORMAL." <<<


Well, if being "normal" means believing in nutty conspiracy theories,
then I'd rather remain in the "abnormal" category, thank you.

BTW, I've known for quite some time that I'm far from "normal". After
all, would a "normal" person actually take two hours out of his day to
respond to a retard named Gil J. Jesus with a very long Internet
message like the one I'm currently composing? I doubt it.

But, I like having these posts available in my Blog/Archives for
future reference anyway. Moreover, I enjoy archiving messages like
this one for the future laughs that I will experience at the expense
of kooks like Gilbert when re-reading my archived posts.

So, thanks, Gil, for this latest opportunity to add to my kook-bashing
archives.


www.The-JFK-Assassination.blogspot.com

aeffects

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Oct 17, 2009, 4:31:59 AM10/17/09
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relax shithead, you're getting your dander up -- if this is all nutty,
simply fuck off, meathead! Stop wasting your time and lurkers time --
unless, of course your getting paid to be a disnfo specialist. Is that
your reason for persisting? 20,000+ post under one alias, another
20,000 under a few others....

Speak up boyo!

aeffects

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Oct 17, 2009, 4:33:14 AM10/17/09
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On Oct 16, 10:21 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

no advertising shithead..... you know the drill!

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