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aeffects

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Nov 18, 2008, 10:41:24 AM11/18/08
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All time posters on alt.cospiracy.jfk

7759 Dave Reitzes
7379 David Von Pein

#'s 7&8

David Von Pein

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Nov 18, 2008, 10:53:19 AM11/18/08
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LOL. Ya gotta love the logic of a kook like The Crackpipe (Healy).

Dave R. and I have similar stats, so -- voila! -- we're the same
person.


I love that leap in (il)logic.


===================================


"The conspiracy community regularly seizes on one slip of the
tongue, misunderstanding, or slight discrepancy to defeat twenty
pieces of solid evidence; accepts one witness of theirs, even if he or
she is a provable nut, as being far more credible than ten normal
witnesses on the other side; treats rumors, even questions, as the
equivalent of proof; leaps from the most minuscule of discoveries to
the grandest of conclusions; and insists that the failure to explain
everything perfectly negates all that is explained." -- Vince Bugliosi

===================================

(Can I be VB on Thursday, Healy? Please!)

aeffects

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Nov 18, 2008, 11:00:03 AM11/18/08
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On Nov 18, 7:53 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:

<snip>
can't run troll....

David Von Pein

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Nov 18, 2008, 11:04:37 AM11/18/08
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So, Healy's next brilliant move after he's cornered is.....


POST THE SAME SHIT AGAIN!!

LOL!

Oh, my weak bladder! Healy, have pity on this bladder of mine!

David Von Pein

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Nov 18, 2008, 11:11:33 AM11/18/08
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Healy can't even write up a simple thread title correctly. The title
of this stupid thread, of course, should be: "David Von Pein, aka Dave
Reitzes?"

How can my "aka" be....me?

One more example of a retardo who's off his rails. Way off them. I
doubt if this kook named Healy can even see the train tracks.

JLeyd...@aol.com

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Nov 18, 2008, 11:12:55 AM11/18/08
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On Nov 18, 10:53�am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> LOL. Ya gotta love the logic of a kook like The Crackpipe (Healy).
>
> Dave R. and I have similar stats, so -- voila! -- we're the same
> person.
>
> I love that leap in (il)logic.

Isn't it interesting,DVP, that a guy like "aeffects," who cravenly
hides behind a screeen name, is trying to unmask you as somebody
else. Here's what he recently wrote about me:

"oh you puke, you.... everyone here suspects you work for one of the
US government alphabet agencies..." I think it comes from a sense of
guilt that they're not man enough to put their names on their own
opinions.

JGL

aeffects

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Nov 18, 2008, 11:17:39 AM11/18/08
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On Nov 18, 8:12 am, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 10:53 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > LOL. Ya gotta love the logic of a kook like The Crackpipe (Healy).
>
> > Dave R. and I have similar stats, so -- voila! -- we're the same
> > person.
>
> > I love that leap in (il)logic.
>
> Isn't it interesting,DVP, that a guy like "aeffects," who cravenly
> hides behind a screeen name, is trying to unmask you as somebody
> else.  Here's what he recently wrote about me:

suck it up, Jer..... there's always .johnnies! KUTGW though someday
you, too can become another DVP.... he'll even split a personality
with ya -- carry on troop!

muc...@gmail.com

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Nov 18, 2008, 11:40:57 AM11/18/08
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On 18 Nov., 17:17, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 8:12 am, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 18, 10:53 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > LOL. Ya gotta love the logic of a kook like The Crackpipe (Healy).
>
> > > Dave R. and I have similar stats, so -- voila! -- we're the same
> > > person.
>
> > > I love that leap in (il)logic.
>
> > Isn't it interesting,DVP, that a guy like "aeffects," who cravenly
> > hides behind a screeen name, is trying to unmask you as somebody
> > else.  Here's what he recently wrote about me:
>
> suck it up, Jer..... there's always .johnnies! KUTGW though someday
> you, too can become another DVP.... he'll even split a personality
> with ya -- carry on troop!

Just when you thought this group couldn't get any stupider. Well, I
suppose your blossoming into a full-time disinfo agent is a step up
from having to lick Ben's "crystal balls" all the time...

David Von Pein

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Nov 18, 2008, 12:03:43 PM11/18/08
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>>> "Isn't it interesting, DVP, that a guy like "aeffects," who cravenly hides behind a screeen name, is trying to unmask you as somebody else." <<<


Yes. And it seems somewhat remarkable to me how other CTers can get
sucked into believing the "fake identity" theories too. Like the
recent examples involving me at Black Op Radio.

Somebody sent Len Osanic an e-mail (I assume it was our retarded
nutcase here in the asylum, Mr. Healy, although I could be wrong about
that, I admit, because Osanic didn't say who sent him the e-
mail)...and in this e-mail, the person told Osanic that I just might
be Dave Reitzes in Internet disguise.

And right away--without a single bit of research or second thought--it
would appear as if Osanic takes this e-mail info as fact....and then
Lenny spreads this false information to one of his frequent guests --
James DiEugenio (who has an "aka" all his own, IMO -- "Mr. Sominex" --
because this guy is one of the best sleeping aids on the Internet when
you get him wound up; it seems that even host Osanic has a hard time
staying awake during Jimmy's lengthy CT-laden filibusters).

And after hearing of my supposed "dual" personality, DiEugenio begins
to believe it too. And guess what evidence DiEugenio has to back up
this rumor? Are you sitting down?.....

James Di. thinks that Dave Reitzes and I might very well might be the
same person because my Blog page is linked on both Reitzes' website
and on John McAdams' site.

That's the totality of the evidence that DiEugenio uses to suggest
that the e-mail rumor is true.

My question for James on that "evidence" would be -- Why would David
Reitzes want to hide behind a fake name in order to post a separate
Blog site on his OWN website? Why not just post all of the "DVP"
articles as his own (as "Reitzes") on the site with Dave Reitzes' name
on the front as "webmaster"? What's the point of the "Double Daves"
from Mr. Reitzes' POV?

That's why I never have understood why anybody would choose to hide
behind false identities when posting things on the Internet. Because
if a person really believes what they are saying is good stuff, and
true stuff, and not covered with BS....then why would they want some
other "person" with a false name to get the credit for something
that's REALLY GOOD and something that they believe is the truth?
(That's the way I feel anyway.)

In fact, a couple of years ago, some people might have noticed that I
actually went to the trouble to make my real name and real identity
known even MORE to the public on the forums I frequently visit, when I
changed all of my usernames from "David VP" (which is what I used on
these Google Groups forums until 2006) to my full name.

I don't want some "Joe Alias" to get credit for what I write. Why
WOULD I want that? I'm proud of my contributions to the JFK forums
(small in scope though they may be when compared to giants like Vince
Bugliosi, Dale Myers, John McAdams, Ken Rahn, Gary Mack, Dave Reitzes,
Jean Davison, and many others who possess immense amounts of common
sense and logic when it comes to the JFK case).


Anyway, I just thought it rather remarkable to find that Mr. DiEugenio
is so willing to accept such a false notion like that DVP/Reitzes
rumor. It just makes me wonder how many other times in his JFK
research he has accepted things at face value (and said so on a public
forum or Internet radio broadcast like Black Op Radio), without doing
a bit of double-checking himself?

And DiEugenio is a very bright guy. I don't dispute that fact at all.
He's got a ton of information about this case at his fingertips, no
doubt about that. But it's what he DOES with this vast amount of JFK
knowledge that I am skeptical of.

His "CT" interpretation of many items of hard, physical evidence in
the Kennedy case is very hard to swallow...and, frankly, his
interpretations regarding the evidence are just downright silly. He'd
be laughed at by the jury at Oswald's trial (had there been one) if he
uttered some of his beliefs about the evidence in front of such a
jury.

And James never seems to GO ANYWHERE with any the loose thread ends
that he says exist in the Kennedy case. The loose threads just kind of
lay there--untouched by anything around them. James, like many other
CTers, apparently thinks that raising a "suspicion" regarding some
peripheral matter is enough to taint the WHOLE CASE against Lee Harvey
Oswald.

Time for a VB replay (again).........

=============================================

"The conspiracy community regularly seizes on one slip of the
tongue, misunderstanding, or slight discrepancy to defeat twenty
pieces of solid evidence; accepts one witness of theirs, even if he or
she is a provable nut, as being far more credible than ten normal
witnesses on the other side; treats rumors, even questions, as the
equivalent of proof; leaps from the most minuscule of discoveries to
the grandest of conclusions; and insists that the failure to explain

everything perfectly negates all that is explained." -- Vincent
Bugliosi

=============================================


www.DavidVonPein.blogspot.com

JLeyd...@aol.com

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Nov 18, 2008, 1:26:44 PM11/18/08
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On Nov 18, 12:03 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> "Isn't it interesting, DVP, that a guy like "aeffects," who cravenly hides behind a screeen name, is trying to unmask you as somebody else." <<<
>
> Yes. And it seems somewhat remarkable to me how other CTers can get
> sucked into believing the "fake identity" theories too. Like the
> recent examples involving me at Black Op Radio.

Well, yeah, that's what makes 'em CTs. CTism is grounded in fantasy,
not reality. One CT -- Gilly Jesus, I believe -- thinks I'm really
Tom Lowry of vice versa. Lord, as if I had the energy he does. Now,
of course, they'll probably think I'm you or vice versa.

JGL

Chuck Schuyler

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Nov 18, 2008, 3:33:25 PM11/18/08
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On Nov 18, 12:26 pm, "JLeyden...@aol.com" <JLeyden...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Well, yeah, that's what makes 'em CTs.  CTism is grounded in fantasy,
> not reality.  One CT -- Gilly Jesus, I believe -- thinks I'm really
> Tom Lowry of vice versa.  Lord, as if I had the energy he does.  Now,
> of course, they'll probably think I'm you or vice versa.
>
> JGL
>
Hmmm...

At different times, I've been told by CT's that I am:

A.) Grizzlie Antagonist

B.) David Von Pein

C.) "Chuck from Philadelphia" (I live in the Twin Cities)

and...

D.) Tom Lowry.

Talk about paranoia!

Sam Brown

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Nov 18, 2008, 3:36:15 PM11/18/08
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"David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
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ROTFLMAO!

Chuck Schuyler

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Nov 18, 2008, 4:00:19 PM11/18/08
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On Nov 18, 2:36 pm, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "David Von Pein" <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote in messagenews:077cebeb-9b9f-4b9a...@e38g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> > Healy can't even write up a simple thread title correctly. The title
> > of this stupid thread, of course, should be: "David Von Pein, aka Dave
> > Reitzes?"
>
> > How can my "aka" be....me?
>
> > One more example of a retardo who's off his rails. Way off them. I
> > doubt if this kook named Healy can even see the train tracks.
>
> ROTFLMAO!

When not suffering from his Delerium Tremens induced hallucinations of
bugs and rats and snakes, Healy the Red-Nosed Boozer is in his own CT
world. He's a grown man who believes the plotters knew Abraham
Zapruder had an 8mm film camera and decided to find a guy to be
Zapruder's 'double' and film the assassination to then give to LIFE
magazine/CIA surrogates to later be forged/altered.

If anyone can figure out this twisted clusterf*ck of childish
conspiracy reasoning, I'd like to hear from them.

Note to Healy:

Find an AA meeting.

Quick.

aeffects

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Nov 18, 2008, 4:15:38 PM11/18/08
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lookey here....ALL the fucking Lone Nut wing-nuts in one thread, no-
less. Does the heart wonders to know CT's are so damn popular and all
that had to done was for Black Op Radio to call out David Von Pein aka
Dave Reitzes as one in the same..... LMFAO!

dance girls......

And Chuckie when you are able to show your face around the upper mid
west and not hiding from the debacle you created with fraudulent
mortgages, pop in here give us a ring, hon.... I got a show I want you
to interview for.....

aeffects

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Nov 18, 2008, 4:19:09 PM11/18/08
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hon, you're a legend in your own mind! LMFAO

Gil Jesus

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Nov 19, 2008, 7:14:30 AM11/19/08
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Dave, I got this message from a Youtube viewer. Wanna hazard a guess
at who he's talking about ?


Gil.. thanks for posting your very informing and historic video's
about the JFK Murder..

I got in to a futile message forum on here with a Vince Bugliosi
fanatic.
I was pointing out Vince's "Oswald was a nut theory" and the posting
youtuber starts calling me a conspiracy nut and then brings up
9/11...???
At that point.. I counter insulted him and threw in the towel....
Any waz... thanks for the great video postings.

Sam Brown

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Nov 19, 2008, 3:21:32 PM11/19/08
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"Gil Jesus" <gjj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Your "message" <snicker> gives the impression that it was written by a
adolescent male Gil. You do keep some very 'interesting ' company don't you
bigot?

Gil Jesus

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Nov 19, 2008, 3:31:54 PM11/19/08
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FIRST A COMPLIMENT:

Sam, I have to admit that I was taken back by the photograph on the
four elephants page.

You are truly a beautiful woman. What a waste that you're not str8.


NOW BACK TO NORMAL:

Looks like ole Slammin' Sammy is a closet CTer.

In the spirit of a "CIA-killed-JFK" conspiracy theory, she writes :

"Dossier links Indonesian intelligence to activist murder"

http://fourelephants.com/current_affairs.php?sid=347


Introducing Samantha Brown:

http://fourelephants.com/


Sam Brown

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Nov 19, 2008, 3:49:53 PM11/19/08
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"Gil Jesus" <gjj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Once again bigot. That is not me. I'm much better looking.

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