The SBT In Action
David Von Pein
speaks volumes (in favor of one bullet having struck both President
Kennedy and Governor Connally just an instant earlier)......
http://users.skynet.be/mar/SBT/Images2/225-226%20Full.gif
The right arms of both victims are moving upward simultaneously --
with JFK moving his arms upward toward the pain point in his throat;
and Connally's right hand/arm involuntarily moving upward after his
right wrist has just been smashed by Oswald's Bullet #399.
Question.....
If what we're seeing there in Z225-Z226 ISN'T two men "reacting" to a
single bullet hitting them both at the same time....then what IS
causing the SIMULTANEOUS MOVEMENT OF THE RIGHT ARMS OF BOTH VICTIMS IN
THE LIMOUSINE BETWEEN Z225 AND Z226?
Like it or not, Abraham Zapruder's home movie (plus lots of other
evidence) shows the Single-Bullet Theory to be true. Now, and forever.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d16a5df97cccb32c
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bed05a055b2f4133
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OTHER Z-FILM CLIPS SHOWING THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY IN ACTION:
http://216.122.129.112/dc/user_files/4594.gif
http://216.122.129.112/dc/user_files/3086.jpg
http://users.skynet.be/mar/SBT/Images2/222-262%20full-small.gif
http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/film/Zapruderstable.mov
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"Several factors make it clear that Kennedy and Connally WERE struck
by the same bullet. There's absolutely no evidence of the existence of
any separate bullet hitting Connally." -- Vincent T. Bugliosi
David Von Pein
"More than one shooter. It's just that simple." -- B. Holmes;
04/13/2006
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7c15fce2ddfcf306
David Von Pein
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As can be seen in CE903 (below), the SBT trajectory works just fine.
And the pointer/rod is just where the autopsy (back) photo shows it to
be, with the exit wound exactly at the "tie knot", just exactly where
JFK sustained damage from the flight of a bullet. .....
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/html/WH_Vol18_0055b.htm
And look at the angle -- DOWNWARD (17 DEGREES), FROM BACK TO FRONT.
Without a doubt.
Also: When CTers attempt to use the "opposite angle" photo to CE903,
which shows Specter holding the rod a little above where he is holding
it in CE903 itself....
http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/Evidence/Mag_Bull.jpg
....the CTers who claim that something is "fishy" or "misleading" are
doing so without ever having determined exactly WHAT THAT OTHER PHOTO
IS, and for what exact purpose it was taken, etc.*
* = Oh, I know it was taken the same day as CE903....but it's unfair
to say that it depicts the WC's SBT trajectory precisely, because it
is NOT an official Warren Commission exhibit like CE903.
Let's listen to the testimony of the man who took the photo we see in
CE903 (Lyndal Shaneyfelt).....
ARLEN SPECTER -- "I now hand you a photograph which has been marked as
Commission Exhibit No. 903 and ask you if you know who the
photographer was?"
LYNDAL L. SHANEYFELT -- "Yes; I took this photograph."
MR. SPECTER -- "When was that photograph taken?"
MR. SHANEYFELT -- "It was taken Sunday afternoon, May 24, 1964."
MR. SPECTER -- "Is there a white string which is apparent in the
background of that photograph?"
MR. SHANEYFELT -- "That is correct."
MR. SPECTER -- "What is the angle of declination of that string?"
MR. SHANEYFELT -- "That string was placed along the wall by the
surveyor at an angle of 17 degrees-43'-30''." ....
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/html/WH_Vol18_0055b.htm
MR. SPECTER -- "Did the surveyor make that placement in your
presence?"
MR. SHANEYFELT -- "He did."
MR. SPECTER -- "Were the stand-ins for President Kennedy and Governor
Connally positioned in the same relative positions as those occupied
by President Kennedy and Governor Connally depicted in the Zapruder
films?"
MR. SHANEYFELT -- "Yes; these positions were approximately the
position of the President and Governor Connally in the Zapruder films
in the area around frame 225 as they go behind the signboard and as
they emerge from the signboard."
MR. SPECTER -- "Was the rod which is held in that photograph
positioned at an angle as closely parallel to the white string as it
could be positioned?"
MR. SHANEYFELT -- "Yes."
MR. SPECTER -- "And through what positions did that rod pass?"
MR. SHANEYFELT -- "The rod passed through a position on the back of
the stand-in for the President at a point approximating that of the
entrance wound, exited along about the knot of the tie or the button
of the coat or button of the shirt, and the end of the rod was
inserted in the entrance hole on the back of Governor Connally's coat
which was being worn by the stand-in for Governor Connally."
MR. SPECTER -- "And was Governor Connally's stand-in seated in the
position where the point of exit would have been below the right
nipple at the approximate point described by Governor Connally's
doctors?"
MR. SHANEYFELT -- "That is correct."
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/shaneyf2.htm
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More on the significance of CE903:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bf3ae3c6c0993e13
And....
"Several factors make it clear that Kennedy and Connally WERE struck
by the same bullet. There's absolutely no evidence of the existence of
any separate bullet hitting Connally." -- Vincent Bugliosi
David Von Pein
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The HSCA wasn't full of a bunch of complete idiots (nor was the WC).
(Although the "acoustics team", with the 11th-hour tacked-on "4th
Shot"
is, IMO, not valid, but that's another matter altogether.)
But the WC and the HSCA obviously KNEW there WAS a "SBT" to be
extracted from that Zapruder movie -- no question about THAT fact.
Why?
Obviously a "SBT" was the ONLY possible logical explanation given the
LACK of any rear-seat limo damage (and lack of whole bullets recovered
from rear seats)...plus: given the lack of bullets in the body of JFK,
and the lack of ANY bullets being found ELSEWHERE (car, hospital, DP)
that could have possibly represented the bullets that were inside JFK
had a bullet not gone completely through him.
Given these facts, there is no question there was just ONE single
bullet that went through Kennedy and on into Connally. And the WC and
HSCA knew this full well.
The WC/HSCA probably considered "conspiracy" for about three seconds,
re. the SBT specifically, before rejecting the idea as IMPOSSIBLE in
every conceivable, DOABLE way. There's no way these plotters could
have
been THAT GOOD, IOW. To have eliminated all these bullets and/or
frontal wounds on two victims, and eliminate any limo damage that
might
need to be eradicated; and for THREE shots to have "aligned" just
nicely to form the wounds on TWO victims like they would have had to
do
if THREE gunmen had been firing instead of just one; and on & on &
on.....
Therefore, what is left is .... A SBT being the ONLY answer to EXPLAIN
THE EVIDENCE AS IT EXISTS.
Regardless of WHAT EXACT Z-FRAME the SBT equates to -- the point is:
There IS a Z-Frame (somewhere on that film) that DOES equate perfectly
to the "SBT". There is no way there's NOT such a Z-Frame given the
totality of this evidence re. the initial wounding of both victims.
Both the WC and HSCA did the best they could when attempting to piece
together the mystery of what time the SBT occurred on the film
(hampered greatly, quite obviously, by that damn freeway sign).
Now, just WHY the obvious (IMO) involuntary Connally reactions were
apparently NEVER noticed by anybody who looked at the film for the WC
&
HSCA, I cannot say (lousy copies used?).
But the Digital copies we have now positively (IMO) point to a
Z223-Z224 hit to JBC -- that open mouthed grimace and shoulder drop
and
weird, ultra-fast hat flip, are, in my view, as positive proof as
we're
gonna find to verifying a bullet striking him at ANY point on the
film.
There is NO OTHER POINT on the Z-Film that gives us THAT MUCH evidence
of a "hit" than do the frames just after Z223.
The WC and HSCA did "get it right" (overall) -- meaning: they were
right about only ONE bullet hitting both men simultaneously. They just
didn't have it PINPOINTED on the Zapruder Film with 100% accuracy.
But, circa 2005, we CAN now "pinpoint" the "bullet strike".
http://216.122.129.112/dc/user_files/3086.jpg
Such a nutty "Erase All The Evidence Immediately After It Happens"
'plot' (as many CTers think did occur on 11/22) couldn't have possibly
been pulled off in a billion years -- and that's WHY, IMO, such a
lamebrain, doomed-to-fail "Patsy" scheme would NEVER HAVE BEEN
ATTEMPTED IN THE FIRST PLACE (unless those "involved" had a Death Wish
themselves).
There would have been NO POSSIBLE WAY to "control" ALL this bullet
(and
wound-location) evidence five minutes after the assassination (esp.
inside TWO victims -- the intended victim, JFK, plus a person they
obviously never meant to hit at all, JBC, who didn't require a "FAKED
&
CONTROLLED AUTOPSY" at the end of the day on November 22nd).
SOMEBODY is gonna SEE something they shouldn't in all this confusion
and chaos just after it occurred (probably LOTS of people; i.e.
non-plotters!) at the place the plotters HAVE GOT TO KNOW the
President
is going to be whisked just after such a shooting -- i.e.: a local
Dallas hospital.
Such a plot to eliminate a sitting President is just ASKING to be
caught -- and is JUST PLAIN DUMB! (Esp. when there were obviously so
MANY other BETTER ways to "eliminate" the target, rather than doing it
via a crackpot "Patsy" plan, which includes the possibility of needing
to eradicate God knows how many bullets and wounds, and strong-arming
God knows how many military people, making them keep their mouths shut
for the rest of their lives. (And just that mere POSSIBILITY of these
things occurring is enough to make any plotters put on the brakes when
it comes to considering this type of nutsville plan.)
Not to mention all the Dealey Plaza witnesses that such a plan is
unfolding in front of -- with MANY CAMERAS FILMING THE PLOTTERS END
RESULTS!
It's hilarious to think that anybody can actually believe ANY plotters
could BE this stupid and suicidal.
DVP
May 2005
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/msg/7360799fec7f549d
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aeffects
> RE. THE SBT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF WARREN COMMISSION EXHIBIT #903:
>
> ==================================================
>
> As can be seen in CE903 (below), the SBT trajectory works just fine.
> And the pointer/rod is just where the autopsy (back) photo shows it to
> be, with the exit wound exactly at the "tie knot", just exactly where
> JFK sustained damage from the flight of a bullet. .....
>
>
> MR. SPECTER -- "Did the surveyor make that placement in your
> presence?"
the surveyors name, eh? and where might one find his/hers documents
and what photos were used for the limos Elm Street position reference
and who took those? and was the rewar seat in the limo in the same
elevated position as Nov 22nd?
tomnln
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
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tomnln
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
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> RE. THE SBT AND THE IMPORTANCE OF WARREN COMMISSION EXHIBIT #903:
>
> =================================================================
>
> As can be seen in CE903 (below), the SBT trajectory works just fine.
> And the pointer/rod is just where the autopsy (back) photo shows it to
> be, with the exit wound exactly at the "tie knot", just exactly where
> JFK sustained damage from the flight of a bullet. .....
>
> http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/html/WH_Vol18_0055b.htm
> surveyor at an angle of 17b043'30''."
>
> MR. SPECTER -- "Did the surveyor make that placement in your
> presence?"
>
> "Several factors make it clear that Kennedy and Connally WERE struck
> by the same bullet. There's absolutely no evidence of the existence of
> any separate bullet hitting Connally." -- Vincent Bugliosi
>
David Von Pein
remember.
I knew I shouldn't have, but I clicked on one of the (4) identical
links re. the SBT that The Sack incessantly linked above.....and the
misrepresentations and illogic abound there (nothing new about that
though).
Burkley, btw, says "about at the level of third thoracic vertabrae".
That, per Tom-Kook, means that Burkley MEASURED THE WOUND LOCATION TO
THE CENTIMETER.
Kook logic indeed.
The word "about" is ignored by Tom, so that The Sack can say the back
wound was "5 to 6 inches below the shoulders" -- something Burkley
never implied, nor does the Boswell Face Sheet (even via the "dot" on
the Sheet).
5 to 6 inches BELOW the shoulder line would put the wound almost in
the middle of JFK's back...and even a kook named Nutsack isn't THAT
foolish to think that...are you, Nutsack?
The lack of damage to 399 has been explained a million times, but The
Sack will continue to prop up its near-"pristine" shape as proof that
the SBT is false.
And, per kook standards, the clothing holes are being used by Mr. Sack
to try and debunk the SBT too.
How does The Sack do it?? (How can he be so consistently wrong 24/7,
that is? A remarkable record that only other Nuthouse CTers dare
challenge.)
tomnln
Those records on my website are Official Records.
You Snipped the citation because you're Afraid of your own WCR Records.
HERE they are>>> http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
You FEAR official records.
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David Von Pein
Wonder why.
BTW, have you found any of those anti-SBT bullets yet? You've got
plenty to choose from of course.
Just wonderin'.
David Von Pein
And where in those "official records" does it specifically state that
JFK's back wound was located "5 to 6 inches below the shoulders"?
tomnln
Page 92 of WCR says hole in shirt was 5 3/4 inches below the collar.
Autopsy sheet shows hole below the shoulders
Glen Bennet said 4 inches below the shoulder
Dr Burkley said at level of 3rd veritibre
YOUR official records.
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
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tomnln
WHY are you Afraid to address the official records of the WCR Volumes?
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/officer_m.htm
WHICH one of Bakers 4 stories do you accept?
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shoulders".
Grow a brain....preferably a brain that has the "Evaluating ALL The
JFK Evidence Properly" lobe still attached.
Does this photo (below) depict the wound "5-6 inches below shoulders"?
<chuckle> .....
http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/autopsy_slideshow/images/BE5_HI.jpg
David Von Pein
This "official evidence" is esp. hilarious (for obvious reasons,
except maybe to Thomas R.).
As if Bennett had a tape measure held up against JFK's back when he
was shot.
There's no POSSIBLE way Bennett could tell precisely where on the
upper back the bullet entered via the fleeting glimpse at the
President Bennett had when JFK was shot in the back.
The degree of inexactitude of observations like Bennett's should be
obvious to any reasonable non-CT-Kook. (Sorry, Sack, you don't qualify
there.)
Plus -- Bennett, like Burkley, used the word "about" in his "4 inches"
statement.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-benne.htm
"About" = "Not necessarily exactly what I'm about the write or say
AFTER I write the word 'about' ". ....
But, to a kook, Bennett's fleeting "4 inches" observation trumps the
autopsy report, the Face Sheet's written-in anatomical measurements,
all of the autopsists' testimony, and the autopsy photo of JFK's back
as well.
Go figure kooks.
eca...@tx.rr.com
IQ Healy who has little or no ability to
engage in substantive dialog..
But Healy has made great strides in
uncovering plagiarism (NOT) and analyzing
retouched photos ONLINE no less..
. \\/////////
| | < "Ed I screwed up pretty bad
| (.) (.) | accusing you of plagiarism;
( V ) I probably should just kill
| O | myself but I can't afford
\ / any bullets.."
WHAT?!?
That's what Photo Retouching
Expert Healy upon hearing the
news that photo retouching
analysis can't be done
ONLINE!
Healy thou art steWpiT.
MR ;~D
Healy your early morning HANG-UP CALL 9 days ago confirms you have the
mind of a gerbil..
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