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Slamming Wecht At AAJ ................ ! You Betcha All You Phony Filers ........ !

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cdddraftsman

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Feb 4, 2008, 12:36:40 AM2/4/08
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On Feb 3, 8:13 pm, bgarrettmeadows <bgmead...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I saw a rather disturbing article in the local newspaper that reputable
> forensic physician AND pro-conspiracy theorist Dr.Cyril Wecht has been
> accused of a whole litany of fraud charges?

Is it any wonder ? He's been defrauding the American public about the
JFK Assassination for 20 years +- and has been instrumental in the
American public's misperception about this important historical
event . You see him in action at YouTube :

a) He crys about doing tests to replicate the SBT until successful
or not , when he knows well no two gunshot wounds , the ballistic ,
medical and forensic aspects are ever identical . Disengenous is to
generous of a word .

b) He served on the HSCA forensic / medical panel and was the only
one to disagree with its findings out of 19 of the best pathologists ,
x-ray , etc. people this Nation had to offer and was also the only
person (*) of those 19 who wrote lurid conspiracy novels based upon
non-sense (See d below)

c) He talked at conspiracy rallys for profit and appeared on tv ,
radio and video's for self aggrandizment and bandstanding to further
promote his own books and video's . He's likened to Mark Lane who saw
the Assassination not in terms of a evil deed out to righted and
figured out , but to be milked for all it was worth until someone got
wise to the game .

d) He has claimed that Kennedy's "back and to the left" motion
indicates a shot from the Grassy Knoll . But when called as a expert
witness in the Menendez retrial , he insisted that simple Newtonian
physics isn't much use in determining how people will react to a
shot . You have to respect a person who has so much gall that he only
tells the truth when under the penalty of perjury and the minute he
walks out of court will either deny that he said what was said or say
that *They* misinterpreted what he said : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/wecht2.htm

e) He participated in a TV special where film was shown of a
supposed "alien autopsy" . Was it really an alien? Click here for a
web site where people expert in movie special effects critique the
"autopsy." :
http://www.trudang.com/autopsy.html

f) The expert the conspiracy books are always quoting is Cyril
Wecht, forensic pathologist and long-time advocate of a conspiracy.
Wecht is a competent forensic pathologist where the Kennedy
assassination is not involved . Unfortunately the part of his book
Cause of Death : http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0525936610/kennedyassassina
dealing with the assassination is awash in mistakes and inaccuracies .
When Wecht appeared online on the Prodigy service in 1994 , Dr. Robert
Artwohl challenged him on several errors and misrepresentations in the
book . Wecht failed to respond to any of Artwohl's messages :
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/wecht.txt

g) When the Rockefeller Commission (The Commission on CIA
Activities) examined the assassination , in the 1970s , Wecht was an
important figure claiming that there was a conspiracy . Given his good
medical credentials , the Commission made a point of talking with
him , and indeed questioned him closely . When the Commission's report
was released , Wecht fussed and fumed that he had been
misrepresented , and that he had given the Commission much convincing
evidence of a conspiracy , but was ignored . In this essay, Megan
Knuth examines what Wecht said , based on the transcript of his
interview with the Commission , and compares it with how his testimony
is presented in the Commission's Report . Was he really
misrepresented ? : http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/wecht.htm

tl


(*) A great Pioneer of the JFK Case and here's some of them : Wow !
Talk about weird coincidents in the JFK Assassination , Wecht had
nothing on happenstances of history , this one was actually planned .
The Plan ? Keep the balancing act going for as long as possible .
Never admit defeat but never really try and solve the case either .
When caught telling a big whopper retreat and then declare victory .
He had more bullets doing magical tricks than 5 WCR's but
never did a ballistic test to prove any of his contentions . If he did
the USG swooped down and stole it all and he never reported it or go
figure ?

cdddraftsman

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Feb 4, 2008, 12:55:01 AM2/4/08
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Sorry garrett I forgot to add that if we start now to get a petition
together to exhume JFK's body , for another autopsy , it might be
ready by the 50th anniversary of JFK's death , which would add another
startling coincident to the case : Wecht should be getting out of jail
by then if he's convicted and maybe he could be on the forensic panel
(*) . Do you think you might join in and sign such a petition or would
you think you might hedge on that proposal ? Just curious .

tl

(*) We could also see if our penal system actually works and
rehabilatates people . The acid test would of course be if he tells
the truth , when he joins in on JFK's 50th annivesary autopsy for old
times sake , or turns around and makes it into another lurid
assassination novella with sinister prison connections and all .

Comments ?

YoHarvey

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Feb 4, 2008, 5:46:21 PM2/4/08
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I'm wondering who has less dignity....Wecht or Groden?

aeffects

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Feb 4, 2008, 5:52:50 PM2/4/08
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On Feb 3, 9:36 pm, cdddraftsman <cdddrafts...@yahoo.com> wrote:

what's aaj? Ya dolt!

Kenneth A. Rahn

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Feb 5, 2008, 12:05:37 PM2/5/08
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Yo,

"YoHarvey" <bail...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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YoHarvey: I'm wondering who has less dignity....Wecht or Groden?

It's a race to the bottom!

Ken Rahn


robcap...@netscape.com

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Feb 5, 2008, 12:08:35 PM2/5/08
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On Feb 5, 12:05 pm, "Kenneth A. Rahn" <kr...@uri.edu> wrote:
> Yo,
>
> "YoHarvey" <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Ken Rahn

And the winners are those who supported and used a phony science, NAA,
to lock-up and frame innocent people. Good job!

Kenneth A. Rahn

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Feb 5, 2008, 3:45:13 PM2/5/08
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Robcap,

"robcap...@netscape.com" <robc...@netscape.com> wrote in message
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Ken Rahn

RobCap: And the winners are those who supported and used a phony science,

NAA,
to lock-up and frame innocent people. Good job!

Rahn: If you are determined to continue in this direction of ignorance, I
suppose I can't stop you. :-)

Ken Rahn


tomnln

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Feb 5, 2008, 3:55:20 PM2/5/08
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"Kenneth A. Rahn" <kr...@uri.edu> wrote in message
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> Rahn: If you are determined to continue in this direction of ignorance, I
> suppose I can't stop you. :-)
>
> Ken Rahn


Very Refreshing to see that you've opened the door to Retaliation to
Insults.
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Kenneth A. Rahn

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Feb 5, 2008, 4:55:55 PM2/5/08
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Tomnln,

"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Telling the truth is not retaliating.

Ken Rahn


robcap...@netscape.com

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Feb 5, 2008, 5:14:12 PM2/5/08
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On Feb 5, 3:45 pm, "Kenneth A. Rahn" <kr...@uri.edu> wrote:
> Robcap,
>
> "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote in message

Ken Rahn"

The ignorance is on the side of those who actually believe NAA works!
Now that is funny! To each is own, but hopefully you'll let your
students know this has been discredited.

robcap...@netscape.com

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Feb 5, 2008, 5:15:25 PM2/5/08
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On Feb 5, 4:55 pm, "Kenneth A. Rahn" <kr...@uri.edu> wrote:
> Tomnln,
>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> news:834qj.26117$E01....@newsfe22.lga...
>
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>
>
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>
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> > "Kenneth A. Rahn" <kr...@uri.edu> wrote in message
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> >> Robcap,
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> >> "robcap...@netscape.com" <robcap...@netscape.com> wrote in message
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> >> Rahn: If you are determined to continue in this direction of ignorance, I
> >> suppose I can't stop you.  :-)
>
> >> Ken Rahn
>
> > Very Refreshing to see that you've opened the door to Retaliation to
> > Insults.
>

"Telling the truth is not retaliating.

Ken Rahn"

Where is the truth? I must have missed it. NAA is defunct, and
anyone who still believes in it is defunct.

tomnln

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Feb 5, 2008, 6:04:32 PM2/5/08
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KEN;

You wrote>>>

Rahn: If you are determined to continue in this direction of ignorance, I
suppose I can't stop you. :-)

THAT's an insult.

THAT opens the door for othere to Retaliate.

Do ya get it this time?
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Kenneth A. Rahn

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Feb 6, 2008, 4:03:00 PM2/6/08
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Robcap,

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Ken Rahn"

Robcap: Where is the truth? I must have missed it. NAA is defunct, and


anyone who still believes in it is defunct.

Rahn: I think you need to reread the NRS report on CABL from 2004. They
endorsed the technique, but recommended tightening some of its procedures.
The revisionists often leave this part out.

Ken Rahn


Kenneth A. Rahn

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Feb 6, 2008, 4:05:56 PM2/6/08
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Tomnln,

"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message

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> KEN;
>
> You wrote>>>
>
> Rahn: If you are determined to continue in this direction of ignorance, I
> suppose I can't stop you. :-)
>
>
>
> THAT's an insult.
>
> THAT opens the door for othere to Retaliate.
>
> Do ya get it this time?

No insult. Robcap is clearly uninformed about CABL, NAA, ICP, etc. I am just
stating the obvious. "Retaliation," especially from a standpoint of such
weakness, does not really concern me.

Ken Rahn


Kenneth A. Rahn

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Feb 6, 2008, 4:09:50 PM2/6/08
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Robcap,

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Ken Rahn"

Robcap: The ignorance is on the side of those who actually believe NAA

works!
Now that is funny! To each is own, but hopefully you'll let your
students know this has been discredited.

Rahn: Please see the other message I wrote to you just now.

Ken Rahn

robcap...@netscape.com

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Feb 8, 2008, 1:02:58 PM2/8/08
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> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >> Rahn: If you are determined to continue in this direction of ignorance,
> > >> I
> > >> suppose I can't stop you. :-)
>
> > >> Ken Rahn
>
> > > Very Refreshing to see that you've opened the door to Retaliation to
> > > Insults.
>
> "Telling the truth is not retaliating.
>
> Ken Rahn"
>
> Robcap: Where is the truth? I must have missed it. NAA is defunct, and
> anyone who still believes in it is defunct.
>

"Rahn: I think you need to reread the NRS report on CABL from 2004.
They endorsed the technique, but recommended tightening some of its
procedures.
The revisionists often leave this part out."

What you leave out is there never has been any comprehensive and
meaningful studies of CBLA since it was done exclusively by the FBI.
Thus there is NO body of data for a committee to study, so you claim
it "has been endorsed" in terms of the technique by the NRS means very
little. What were they endorsing? Furthermore, the Committee (on
Scientific Assessment of Bullet Lead Elemental Composition Comparison
at the NRCNA) was constrained by charter to the Statement of Tasks
furnished by the entity commissioning the study (the FBI Laboratory).

The NACDL (National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers) have
said:

"Even though the Committee was inappropriately constituted for the
metallurgy-based challenge, it confirmed major flaws in the remaining
aspects of the forensic practice, to include the basis by which a
compositional "match" between and among bullets is claimed.

Accordingly, the report severely restricts experts' allowable
conclusions in the courtroom for all future testimonies relating to
compositional comparisons of bullets."

Sounds like more than a minor tweaking is needed to me.

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