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YoHarvey

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Jan 27, 2009, 9:52:01 PM1/27/09
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Vincent Bugliosi:


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It is further remarkable that the conspiracy theorists aren't
troubled
in the least by their inability to present any evidence that Oswald
was set up and framed. For them, the mere belief or speculation that
he was is a more than adequate substitute for evidence. More
importantly, there is a simple fact of life that Warren Commission
critics and conspiracy theorists either don't realize or fail to take
into consideration, something I learned from my experience as a
prosecutor; namely that in the real world -- you know, the world in
which when I talk you can hear me, there will be a dawn tomorrow,
etcetera -- tiy CANNOT be innocent and yet still have a prodiguious
amount of highly incriminating evidence against you. That's just not
what happens in life. When a man is innocent of a crime, chances
are
there isn't going to be anything at all pointing towards his guilt.
Nothing at all poiting towards his guilt. But now and then, because
of the very nature of life, and the unaccountability of certain
things, there may be one thing that points towards his guilt, even
thouogh he is innocent. In an unusual situion, maybe even twho
things point to his guilt, even though he is innocent. And in a very
rare and strange situation, maybe even three things point to his
guilt, even thought he is completely innocent.


But with Lee Harvey Oswald, everything, everything points towards his
guilt. In fact, the evidence against Oswald is so great that you
could throw 80% of it out the window and there would still be more
than enough to prove his guilt beyond all reasonable doubt.


Indeed, the evidence against Oswald proves his guilt not just beyond
a
reasonable doubt, but beyond ALL doubt, or, as they say in the
movies,
beyond a shadow of a doubt. In other words, not just one or two or
three peices of evidence point towards Oswald's guklt, but more than
fifty pieces point irresistibly to his guilt. And not only does all
of the physical, scientific evidence point solely and exclusively to
Oswald's guilt, but virtually everything he said and did points
unerringly to his guilt.


Under these circumstances, it is not humanly possible for him to be
innocent, at least, as I said, not in the real world in which we
live. Only in the fantasy world of conspiracy theory could Oswald be
innocent and still have all this evidence against him.


If Oswald didn't kill Kennedy, then Kennedy wasn't killed on November
22, 1963. You simply cannot have the mountain of evidence that
Oswald
had against him and still be innocent.


David Von Pein

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Jan 27, 2009, 10:57:16 PM1/27/09
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Allow me to pick up where YoHarvey left off, with an additional "RH"
quote:


"The Warren Commission critics and conspiracy theorists display
an astonishing inability to see the vast forest of evidence proving
Oswald's guilt because of their penchant for obsessing over the
branches, even the leaves of individual trees. And, because virtually
all of them have no background in criminal investigation, they look at
each leaf (piece of evidence) by itself, hardly ever in relation to,
and in the context of, all the other evidence." -- VINCENT T.
BUGLIOSI; PAGES 952-953 OF "RECLAIMING HISTORY: THE ASSASSINATION OF
PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY" (c.2007)

www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/3200858-post.html

=============================

JUST FOR FUN, HERE ARE A FEW ADDITIONAL COMMON-SENSE QUOTES RELATING
TO PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S ASSASSINATION:

"You [a conspiracy-giddy kook] think that one piece outweighs
all the other evidence. The WC didn't. Their opinion mattered, as they
were tapped to investigate this matter. The opinions of kooks are
immaterial." -- Bud; October 27, 2005

~~~~~~~~~~~


"The SBT, in addition to being grounded in the known evidence
surrounding the case, is also based on a whole lot of regular,
ordinary common sense as well. No "Anti-SBT" scenario has ever come
close to matching the Warren Commission's Single-Bullet Conclusion in
the "Evidence" department. Nor has any alternate theory come close to
equalling the SBT in the "Reasonable", "Workable", "Believable", and
"Common Sense" categories as well.

"The Single-Bullet Theory FITS. The Single-Bullet Theory WORKS.
The Single-Bullet Theory is RIGHT." -- David Von Pein; March 2007

~~~~~~~~~~~


"You call it the theory; I call it the conclusion; it was a
theory until we found the facts; that's why I refer to it as the
Single-Bullet Conclusion." -- Arlen Specter; 1967


~~~~~~~~~~~


"While one of the pieces of physical evidence could conceivably have
been faked by an expert, there is no possibility that an expert, or
team of super-experts, could have fabricated the perfectly coordinated
whole. This brings to mind the recurrent theme in most conspiracy
books. All the officials alternate between the role of "Keystone
Kops", with the inability to recognize the implications of the most
elementary evidence, and "Evil Geniuses", with superhuman abilities to
fake physical evidence that is in complete agreement with all the
other faked evidence." -- Larry M. Sturdivan; Page 246 of "The JFK
Myths" (c.2005)

~~~~~~~~~~~

"Question --- How many brain-dead plotters does it take to rub
out just one simple-minded patsy before the bastard can talk?? Answer
--- A good-sized number, per the CT-Kooks. [Marrion] Baker failed,
[Gerald] Hill failed, Ruby failed on his first attempt (probably). The
Patsy Crew finally had to go with Plan 9 From Kooksville, and kill the
bum in the police station on LIVE TELEVISION. THAT did the cover-up a
lot of good, huh?" -- David Von Pein; February 19, 2007


~~~~~~~~~~~


"Obsessing about conspiracy, and seeing evidence of conspiracies
everywhere, has become a major part of many people's lives. .... None
of these things have anything to do with whether Oz took his rifle to
work and shot JFK. I could give far more examples of unstable human
beings doing unstable things than you could ever produce examples of
conspiracies." -- Bud; August 23, 2004


~~~~~~~~~~~

"Any assassins who would have needed only Oswald fingered for
the two murders on 11/22/63 must have all (to a man!) been under the
influence of large quantities of hallucinogenic drugs when they
decided to place a variety of different shooters throughout Dealey
Plaza (and on 10th Street for Tippit's killing), as many CTers
advocate. And these powerful drugs they must have been on I guess must
have had a crazy type of "Miracles Are Possible" effect on all of the
shooters and behind-the-scenes schemers -- because only a "miracle"
could have rescued such an inane multi-shooter "Patsy" plan from
certain failure on that 22nd day of November back in '63." -- David
Von Pein; April 7, 2006

~~~~~~~~~~~

"When he was interrogated, Oswald, from his own lips, he TOLD us
he was guilty....he told us he was guilty....almost the same as if he
had said 'I murdered President Kennedy'....he told us. How did he tell
us? Well, the lies he told, one after another, showed an UNMISTAKABLE
consciousness of guilt. If Oswald were innocent, why did he find it
necessary to deny purchasing that Carcano rifle from the Klein's store
in Chicago? Why did he even deny owning any rifle at all? Why did he
find it necessary to do that if he's innocent?" -- Vincent Bugliosi;
July 25, 1986; "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald"

~~~~~~~~~~~

"If CE399 had been plucked from inside Connally's or Kennedy's
body, the CTers would still find some reason to bark "No way; it was
PLANTED there!"." -- David Von Pein; March 4, 2006

~~~~~~~~~~~


"Instead of focusing on the important issue -- that Oswald in
fact ordered the weapon that was delivered to his P.O. Box, the CTs
focus on the "capillaries," nitpicking the P.O.'s faulty record-
keeping." -- Jean Davison; January 17, 2006


~~~~~~~~~~~


"Conspiracists fail to outline the scenario that would be
necessary for the bag to have actually been as short as [Wesley]
Frazier and [Linnie] Randle describe it. It would require that the
"phony bag" be forged in absolutely record time, in exactly the right
length, and carried from the Depository even before the Dallas cops in
the Depository knew that Frazier was saying that Oswald had carried a
bag in to work! And somehow they got Oswald's prints on it. You've got
to admire the foresight of those cops. They really lucked out when
Frazier said that Oswald had carried a bag just like that into work
that morning." -- John McAdams; July 16, 2000

~~~~~~~~~~~


"I'm eagerly awaiting the logical and believable conspiracy-
slanted explanation that will answer the question of why a 38-inch
empty paper bag (which could house Oswald's 34.8-inch disassembled
rifle), which was an empty bag with Oswald's fingerprints on it, was
in the place where it was found after the assassination (the sixth-
floor Sniper's Nest) and yet still NOT have Lee Oswald present at that
sniper's window on 11/22/63.

"I, for one, cannot think of a single "Oswald Is Innocent"
explanation for that empty paper sack being where it was found after
the assassination of John Kennedy....AND with Oswald's fingerprints on
it. Can you?" -- David Von Pein; 2007


~~~~~~~~~~~

"There is nothing new to be unveiled concerning the way John F.
Kennedy died on November 22, 1963. JFK was shot by a lone loser named
Lee Harvey Oswald. And that lone loser who hated America and its
"representatives" just happened to own a cheap mail-order rifle and he
also just happened to work in a building that overlooked the very last
portion of President Kennedy's motorcade route through Dallas.

"The combination of things I just mentioned above was a lethal
combination. And it's also, whether you want to believe it or not, a
combination of circumstances brought about by nothing except pure
garden-variety coincidence and happenstance." -- David Von Pein;
January 2008


~~~~~~~~~~~


"I'm wondering why so many people who have adhered themselves
permanently to the silly notion of a "JFK Conspiracy" think that their
opinions (seemingly based on nothing but the direction of the wind, or
a "motive" they think such-&-such a person might have had, or a hunk
of pure speculation) are worthy of NOT being ridiculed? That's always
had me scratching me head." -- David Von Pein; September 14, 2007


~~~~~~~~~~~

LOTS MORE:

www.google.com/group/alt.60s/browse_thread/thread/282746f40489bbe7

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