Answers to Ben's questions #19, 20 & 21
Chuck Schuyler
#19:
19. Why have photographs and X-rays disappeared out of the inventory?
They haven't.
It's hard to know who you are quoting here, or whose work you are
citing. The autopsy photos have been been shown to be authentic, and
they verify the damage the autopsy doctors spelled out in their
report. If you have something specific in mind, please lay it out
there, or tell us what the 'missing' autopsy photos showed.
#20:
20. Why did the CIA have a program of harassment of CT authors, and
why did they
actively promote the WCR through their friendly news contacts?
Hmmm. More speculation by Ben that is asserted as if it were a bona
fide fact agreed to universally by both sides.
Thousands and thousands of books and articles and websites-all
purporting a massive, massive conspiracy involving everyone from
Hoover, Johnson, Texas oil, and yes, the CIA, flourish yet to this
day, and some of the original WCR critics like partially KGB funded
Mark Lane continue to crank out the anti-American agitprop and be
feted by the Loony Left. One of the best things the CIA could've done
is leave your side (the kooks) alone to wallow in your ridiculousness.
I know the CIA retained an interest in, for example, the Shaw trial,
but to insist that the CIA had an active, ongoing program to discredit
you kooks is going overboard. You're your own worst enemies for
respectability, and you think too highly of yourselves if you think
some massive operation was afoot to discredit your (*snicker*)
'research'.
#21:
21. Why did the Secret Service remove the limo from the jurisdiction
of the DPD?
To examine it for evidence. A trial would require that the limo was
checked for bullet fragments and any other evidence needed to convict
the accused shooter. The limo technically left the 'crime
scene' (Dealey Plaza) when Greer sped off to Parkland. In Yellow Pants
Utopia, people that are shot in an automobile are required to sit
still in the middle of the street until the cops show up and sweep the
car for evidence. Ben would've preferred that JBC bled to death right
there on Elm St. to satisfy his kook suspicions that nothing weird was
going on with the limo.
More weird, goofball stuff from Mr. Yellow Pants.
(The questions are getting easier, folks.)
Ben Yellow Pants will now insist that these questions weren't
answered. Weird.
aeffects
oh-my GAWD Chuckie daShoe is in bed with Timmy daBrennan out latest
down-undah SKANK......
roll-over Beethoven... Chuckie has dug himself out of the snow bank
aeffects
> >>> "Why have photographs and X-rays disappeared out of the inventory?" <<<
>
>
> =====================================
>
> "For years conspiracy theorists have charged that the "missing"
> autopsy photographs are, in their minds, one more indication of a
> conspiracy in the assassination. .... But...with literally hundreds of
> people from various official investigative agencies...examining and
> working with the photos throughout the years, I not only don't find it
> suspicious, I find it completely predictable that one or more
> photographs ended up missing, misplaced, or expropriated by people
> through whose hands they passed." -- Vincent T. Bugliosi; Page 275 of
> Endnotes in "Reclaiming History" (c.2007)
>
> =====================================
sitdown clown, you and Vinnie have become irrelevant
David Von Pein
>>> "Why have photographs and X-rays disappeared out of the inventory?" <<<
=====================================
Ben Holmes
aeffects says...
>
>On May 5, 9:56 am, Chuck Schuyler <chu...@am-mtg.com> wrote:
>> Here ya go, Yellow Pants...
>>
>> #19:
>>
>> 19. Why have photographs and X-rays disappeared out of the inventory?
>>
>> They haven't.
Another "simple denial" response. Sadly, the government knew quite well that
photos had gone missing.
>> It's hard to know who you are quoting here, or whose work you are
>> citing. The autopsy photos have been been shown to be authentic, and
>> they verify the damage the autopsy doctors spelled out in their
>> report. If you have something specific in mind, please lay it out
>> there, or tell us what the 'missing' autopsy photos showed.
Simple denial is all you have???
>> #20:
>>
>> 20. Why did the CIA have a program of harassment of CT authors, and
>> why did they
>> actively promote the WCR through their friendly news contacts?
>>
>> Hmmm. More speculation by Ben that is asserted as if it were a bona
>> fide fact agreed to universally by both sides.
Not "speculation" at all. Indeed, the CIA's own paperwork presents it.
More denial on your part.
>> Thousands and thousands of books and articles and websites-all
>> purporting a massive, massive conspiracy involving everyone from
>> Hoover, Johnson, Texas oil, and yes, the CIA, flourish yet to this
>> day, and some of the original WCR critics like partially KGB funded
>> Mark Lane continue to crank out the anti-American agitprop and be
>> feted by the Loony Left.
I'm to the right of Rush Limbaugh.
>> One of the best things the CIA could've done
>> is leave your side (the kooks) alone to wallow in your ridiculousness.
>> I know the CIA retained an interest in, for example, the Shaw trial,
>> but to insist that the CIA had an active, ongoing program to discredit
>> you kooks is going overboard.
Then I guess you'll just have to call the CIA liars... for of course, *THEY*
document this.
>> You're your own worst enemies for
>> respectability, and you think too highly of yourselves if you think
>> some massive operation was afoot to discredit your (*snicker*)
>> 'research'.
Again, simple denial is all you have? In spite of the evidence?
>> #21:
>>
>> 21. Why did the Secret Service remove the limo from the jurisdiction
>> of the DPD?
>>
>> To examine it for evidence.
The "Secret Service" is not a crime investigatory unit for murder. The DPD is.
What they did was illegal.
>> A trial would require that the limo was
>> checked for bullet fragments and any other evidence needed to convict
>> the accused shooter. The limo technically left the 'crime
>> scene' (Dealey Plaza) when Greer sped off to Parkland. In Yellow Pants
>> Utopia, people that are shot in an automobile are required to sit
>> still in the middle of the street until the cops show up and sweep the
>> car for evidence. Ben would've preferred that JBC bled to death right
>> there on Elm St. to satisfy his kook suspicions that nothing weird was
>> going on with the limo.
Strawmen arguments aren't going to convince anyone...
>> More weird, goofball stuff from Mr. Yellow Pants.
>>
>> (The questions are getting easier, folks.)
And yet, the answers are still the same - simple denial.
aeffects
> In article <1f33e440-ab41-49b0-bc80-501f01886...@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
I think Chuckie daShoe is done...
aeffects
I get you a shot at this and what do you do? Make a fool out of
yourself.... into the (re)TARD pit with you!
justm...@gmail.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
ROFLMAO this coming from the imbecile that makes a jackass out of
himself every single time he tries to type a coherent sentance. What a
joke you are Healy! You're head honcho in the TARD pit, after all,
it's where you live.
aeffects
Ben Holmes
These trolls do, however, provide a valuable public service. When lurkers see
that these are the strongest arguments that can be made for the WCR's viewpoint
- it will help people to make up their minds about the conspiracy that took
JFK's life.
David Von Pein
>>> "These trolls do, however, provide a valuable public service. When lurkers see that these are the strongest arguments that can be made for the WCR's viewpoint, it will help people to make up their minds about the conspiracy that took JFK's life." <<<
When the one lurker per year reads ANY of the items in the "BEN 45",
the high level of "I NEED A CONSPIRACY AT ALL COSTS" desperation that
oozes from every Ben CT-skewed "inquiry" becomes readily apparent.
But, per Ben-Kook, merely asking a few questions (but not tying those
questions into "conspiracy" by way of any EVIDENCE--because he can't
do that, since no conspiracy existed at all) is all that is required
to "prove" conspiracy (if you're a Mega-Kook like Benjamin Holmes,
that is).
VB, as usual, is right......
"The conspiracy community regularly seizes on one slip of the
tongue, misunderstanding, or SLIGHT DISCREPANCY to defeat 20 pieces of
solid evidence; accepts one witness of theirs, even if he or she is a
provable nut, as being far more credible than 10 normal witnesses on
the other side; treats RUMORS, even QUESTIONS, as the equivalent of
PROOF; leaps from the most MINUSCULE OF DISCOVERIES to the grandest of
conclusions; and insists that the failure to explain everything
perfectly negates all that is explained." -- Vince T. Bugliosi (w/
DVP's emphasis)
robcap...@netscape.com
Here is some proof the extant photos were tampered with.
* All three of JFK's pathologists, Bethesda pathologist-witness,
Robert Karnei, M.D.; and both autopsy photographers recalled that
specific photographs were taken during the President's autopsy that do
NOT now exist.
* Chief White House photographer, Robert Knudsen told the HSCA (in
formerly suppressed interviews conducted in 1978) that right after the
assassination that he developed images that do NOT now exist. In 1997
former government photographer Joe O'Donnell told the ARRB that in
1963 his friend, Robert Knudsen, showed him a photograph of JFK's head
that revealed a LARGE HOLE IN THE BACKSIDE OF THE SKULL. NO such
photo can now be found in the official inventory.
* Naval Photographic center employee Saundra Spencer told the ARRB
that while developing JFK's autopsy photographs shortly after the
assassination she, like Joe O'Donnell, also saw an image showing a
large hole in the back of JFK's skull. She also claimed that the film
on which current autopsy photographs appear was NOT available in the
lab where it was supposed to have developed in November 1963.
*Chief autopsy photographer John Stringer disavowed the extant autopsy
photos of JFK's brain. Though Stringer was the photographer of record,
he SWORE to the ARRB that he did NOT take the extant images.
Moreover, he said the current images were taken on film he is certain
he did not use in 1963.
* Robert Grossman, M.D., a neurosurgeon who attended JFK at Parkland
hospital in Dallas, was shown a image of the back of JFK's head taken
from the autopsy. An investigator, Doug Horne, put it into an ARRB
memo, "When shown the Ida Dox drawing of the back of the head autopsy
image found on page 104 of HSCA volume 7, Dr. Grossman immediately
opined, 'that's completely inaccurate.'" Dr. Grossman then drew on a
diagram of a human skull a defect square in the OCCIPUT that coincided
with his clear recollection of the size and location of a defect in in
the back of JFK's skull.
* Upon being shown the autopsy photographs for the first time in 1997,
the two FBI agents who witnessed the autopsy, Francis X. O'Neill and
James Sibert, told the ARRB that the image showing the backside of
JFK's skull intact had been, as agent O'Neill initially put it,
"doctored." BOTH agents claimed there was a sizable defect in the
rear of JFK's skull. Sibert indicated the size and loction of JFK's
right-rearward skull defect on a diagram he prepared for the ARRB.
All credit for assembling this proof goes to Dr. Gary Aguilar. I guess
DVP will still lie and say they were not doctored or offer up some
lame quote from Bugman, but we all know the truth.
tomnln
Autopsy photos were PHONY.
Autopsy X-Rays were PHONY.
See it HERE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/horne__report.htm
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