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Debunking JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theories !

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cdddraftsman

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Mar 22, 2007, 4:03:38 PM3/22/07
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http://www.youtube.com/watch
v=JWVKLtBd6GY&mode=related&search=
This is more like it ! ...........tl

cdddraftsman

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Mar 22, 2007, 4:24:35 PM3/22/07
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Lone

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Mar 22, 2007, 8:22:46 PM3/22/07
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On 22 Mrz., 21:24, "cdddraftsman" <cdddrafts...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc8J9vqJJjo&mode=related&search=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTYOGmz5oyc&NR

> Here's two more ! Excellent ! .......tl
>
> On Mar 22, 1:03 pm, "cdddraftsman" <cdddrafts...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch
> > v=JWVKLtBd6GY&mode=related&search=
> > This is more like it ! ...........tl

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RICLAND

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Mar 22, 2007, 9:26:19 PM3/22/07
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The rationale the physics professor gave for the backward movement of
Kennedy's head (and body!) was that the exiting brain matter created
more force than the impact of the bullet; that is, the force of the
bullet entering from the rear was negated by the explosive force of the
brain matter.

Interesting theory, cddraftsman.

Unfortunately, the theory doesn't describe what we see.

We don't see the head snapping back as we'd expect from the explosive
force of brain matter leaving the head, we see instead, Kennedy's entire
body swinging back -- in unison -- precisely consistent with the manner
a rifle bullet pushes back or knocks a person to the ground.

An exploding head doesn't deliver that amount of force because its
propellant (brain matter) dissipates -- in 360 degrees not just forward!
-- as soon as the skull explodes.

Think of it like this: A jet plane sits on the runway. For some reason
it explodes. When the fire is put out, how far has it moved? Not very
far. It's pieces may be all over the runnawy, but the plane itself
hasn't moved much at all.

Match this to what happens when the jet is powered up and a single,
concentrated blast comes out of its tailpipe. The plan shoots down the
runway.

Finally, as everyone knows, a large chunk of brain was pushed out of
Kennedy's head onto the trunk of the limo. This is the piece Jackie
tried to scoop up.

But if the explosive force of brain matter pushed Kennedy's head back,
as your professor hypothesizes, what pushed out the brain matter that
landed on the trunk?

Why wasn't it part of the propellant forcing Kennedy's head back too?

In other words, cddraftsman, you need to tell your professor the same
thing I always tell you and David -- you can't have it both ways.


ricland


--

"You've shown, cddraftsman, you don't know the meaning of the word
"deposition" not once, not twice, but three times; therefore, nothing
you write will be trusted again. You are, as the say in the legal world,
a foaming mouth incompetent."
-- ricland

" If you just heard gunshots from a certain location, would you want to
immediately RUN TOWARD A PLACE WHERE A KILLER MIGHT BE LOCATED?
If you answer 'yes', please tell me why?? "

-- David Von Pein

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David Von Pein

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Mar 22, 2007, 10:04:24 PM3/22/07
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>>> "What pushed out the brain matter that landed on the trunk?" <<<

There's absolutely no proof that any "brain matter" flew out onto the
trunk. That's a CT Myth (like so many others).

Jackie was cradling JFK's head in her hands during the entire 5-minute
ride to Parkland. She easily could have had a loose piece of head/
brain come off in her hands during this 5-minute period.

Jackie said to the WC that she had no memory at all of even climbing
onto the trunk after the shooting, let alone having an independent and
clear recollection of going out onto the trunk lid to retrieve a hunk
of brain tissue.*

* = That idea is ludicrous to begin with, IMO. Why on Earth would she
have had any desire to go get a grisly piece of JFK's head, even if
she HAD seen it fly back onto the trunk? That's about as nuts as
having a desire to run straight toward the place from where you KNEW
somebody had just fired a gun (hence, you're deliberately placing your
own life in obvious danger by doing this), as so many CTers think
actually did occur on 11/22/63 with regard to gobs and gobs of
different Dealey Plaza witnesses.

luthie...@yahoo.com

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Mar 22, 2007, 10:24:43 PM3/22/07
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what a piece of trash you are, you come in here to get a good laugh at
the guy who got his head blown off in front of the whole world.
your a anti-american piece of shit with no honor you dirtbag

David Von Pein

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Mar 22, 2007, 10:29:18 PM3/22/07
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Say it in 13 more threads and you get a balloon, Luth-Kook.

luthie...@yahoo.com

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Mar 22, 2007, 10:33:36 PM3/22/07
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hehe, its gotta suck to be you, to be a piece of shit, and have no
life or no job, haha, i get nothing but a good laugh at you.
i dont know how you even live with yourself much less look at yourself
in the mirror you retard.
like you jew gassin family want enough there frankentard
hey deusch von dingleberry... your a piece of shit

David Von Pein

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Mar 22, 2007, 10:41:28 PM3/22/07
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>>> "much less look at yourself in the mirror." <<<

What mirror? I'm chained to the 'puter 24/7/365.25 by VB and Earl
Warren's ghost.

What's a "mirror"?

>>> "like you jew gassin family want enough there frankentard hey deusch von dingleberry... your a piece of shit." <<<

Hard day on the garbage truck, eh?

Or maybe it's IBS that's causing this steam....

http://www.aboutibs.org/

I can sympathize with that. That's gotta suck.

RICLAND

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Mar 22, 2007, 11:34:59 PM3/22/07
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David Von Pein wrote:
>>>> "What pushed out the brain matter that landed on the trunk?" <<<
>
> There's absolutely no proof that any "brain matter" flew out onto the
> trunk. That's a CT Myth (like so many others).
>
> Jackie was cradling JFK's head in her hands during the entire 5-minute
> ride to Parkland. She easily could have had a loose piece of head/
> brain come off in her hands during this 5-minute period.
>
> Jackie said to the WC that she had no memory at all of even climbing
> onto the trunk after the shooting, let alone having an independent and
> clear recollection of going out onto the trunk lid to retrieve a hunk
> of brain tissue.*
>
> * = That idea is ludicrous to begin with, IMO. Why on Earth would she
> have had any desire to go get a grisly piece of JFK's head, even it

> she HAD seen it fly back onto the trunk? That's about as nuts as
> having a desire to run straight toward the place from where somebody
> just fired a gun, as so many CTers think actually did occur on 11/22.
>


First, let me complement you or your paragraphing -- it's marvelous!

Second, a question: What was Jackie reaching for on the trunk?

tomnln

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Mar 23, 2007, 12:03:52 AM3/23/07
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For the First TWELVE years we were told that "The head goes Forward with
considerable violence".


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tomnln

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Mar 23, 2007, 12:41:07 AM3/23/07
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Typical post from Lousy.

Firsr one is his Addiction to Porno.
Second is his Addiction to a "Cartoonist".


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David Von Pein

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Mar 23, 2007, 12:40:25 AM3/23/07
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>>> "First, let me complement [sic] you or [sic] your paragraphing -- it's marvelous!" <<<

Now if you could only learn to use www.webster.com. (It's compliment,
not complement.) ~grin~

Also, I've always paragraphed my posts well. Always. Why you seem to
think otherwise is a mystery to me. Because I, like you, hate huge
blocks of text on the screen.

David Von Pein

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Mar 23, 2007, 12:42:11 AM3/23/07
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RE.: JACKIE K., CLINT HILL, A PIECE OF SKULL, AND THAT TRUNK
LID.........

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>>> "What was Jackie reaching for on the trunk?" <<<


Probably nothing at all. (And certainly not anything that anyone can
PROVE for certain.)

It's just as likely she was merely attempting to balance herself on
the trunk (a location on the vehicle she rarely if ever visited prior
to 11/22/63). She might have also been trying to extend a helping hand
to Clint Hill, who was heading her way on the bumper.

http://www.timesunion.com/photogalleries/jfk/11.jpg

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z380.jpg

Either of those things is a pure guess, yes. I don't deny it. I don't
know for sure what was going through Jacqueline Kennedy's mind at that
exact "trunk" moment in time. And neither does anyone else for
certain; not even Jackie herself, per her WC testimony:

"There were pictures later on of me climbing out the back. But I don't
remember that at all." -- JACQUELINE KENNEDY; June 5, 1964

But the CTers' "Jackie Grabbed A Piece Of Skull" scenario is a "guess"
too...even with these words uttered by SS agent Clint Hill in the
official record......

"Mrs. Kennedy had jumped up from the seat and was, it appeared to me,
reaching for something coming off the right rear bumper of the car,
the right rear tail, when she noticed that I was trying to climb on
the car." -- CLINTON J. HILL; 1964

I'm a good sport, aren't I? Providing you with the above testimony,
which doesn't aid my "LN" case very much. But it's still a guess on
Hill's part. Because Clint didn't actually see Jackie pick up any
skull piece either.

But, then again, to carry this "trunk" incident a tad further --- Why
is it totally impossible for Jackie to have, indeed, grabbed a piece
of skull from the trunk within a "Lone Assassin Firing From The Book
Depository" mindset?

Now, I'm not conceding that Jackie did pick up a piece of skull or
brain from the trunk. In fact, I think it's rather silly to think that
Jackie would have had a desire (and enough presence of mind and
wherewithal) to want to go grab a piece of skull at that exact
horrifying moment. It's just crazy, IMO. But YMMV.

But what I'm saying is -- Why is it totally impossible for a piece of
JFK's head to have ended up BEHIND him, even though he was hit in the
head from behind?

In other words --- Why couldn't the REAR SNAP that President Kennedy's
head performed (for whatever not-fully-known reason) have conceivably
thrown a piece of his head REARWARD onto the trunk of the limousine?

After all, his head WAS, indeed, moving violently REARWARD (toward the
trunk) for a few short seconds just after his head was broken apart by
a bullet.

The Zapruder Film, however, doesn't seem to support ANY theory
regarding a piece of skull ending up on the trunk of the car.

Food for "limo trunk" thought anyway.

tomnln

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Mar 23, 2007, 12:47:10 AM3/23/07
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F-A-N-T-A-S-Y

You can Always count on Lousy to promote Fantasy.

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