I Visited Deleay Plaza
luthie...@yahoo.com
NM. when i left i had quite the headache, and after driving for a day,
it faded. on my way back from NM, i decided to stop in dallas and
visit the site again. it was mid afternoon and a nice sunny day as i
sit on the grass of the grassy knoll. i was preoccupied with why
things here are the way they are, and it occured to me, those
probablly most famous words that Kennedy spoke..."Ask not what your
country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." i
stared at the street where kennedy's life was destroyed forever. those
words inspired me to join the military and i retired from there. i did
my part in serving this great nation, but it seems to me, many many
have gone astray from those simple words, you see, its not so
important in how kennedy died, but how we remember how he lived. If
your day consists of sitting here pushing a agenda, then your not
doing anything for your country and you havent listened to a word the
man said. just as with religion has those who oppose that are called
anti-christs, it would seem there are even anti-kennedy's, those who
have given nothing to this nation, those who only take and take.
individuals with NO Honor and no morals, individuals who call this a
job....
Its sad people like this have come to such a life, their mere
existance is pitiful to watch.
so if this is you, then you need to take these words to heart.....
"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for
your country"
and this sadly to say, doesnt count. its time to man up and grow up,
push yourself away from this keyboard and go do something for this
country.
YoHarvey
wrote:
How patriotic....from an idiot who beloves his
own country committed the murder. How dumb
is this guy?
luthie...@yahoo.com
what have you done to better this situtation or help correct things
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>
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David Von Pein
No meter's ever been invented that can measure the depths of it.
Walt's either, for that matter.
luthie...@yahoo.com
haha, they come in here to get a good laugh at the man who got his
head blown off for the whole world to see.....
and to them, they are only words.......
No Honor and No Morals
David Von Pein
MISSING THE BOAT.
LNers don't come here "to get a good laugh at the man who got his head
blown off".
We come here to get a good laugh in at the expense of kooks like you.
luthie...@yahoo.com
the guy who got his head blown off in front of the whole world.
your a anti-american piece of shit with no honor you dirtbag
you got no job and your nothing but a bag of ass walkin pal, little
dweeb hiding here caus your a moron
and stand for everything that is anti kennedy
luthie...@yahoo.com
bake ya stupid
David Von Pein
luthie...@yahoo.com
captain dingleberry and Yo momma's a crack ho, can be bothered to do
anything except sit here much less do anything for this country caus
your sorry pieces of shit. so when you read the post, you couldnt say
anything, caus you thought, .......... YEP IM A LOSER.......... so get
smart..........thats ok, i'll whip ya at that too loser
smart people can act stupid, but stupid people cant act smart,
remember that moron when you confront me you fucking Nazi
YoHarvey
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Notice the vocabulary of this pseudo moron.
Incapable of any creative thinking and no ability
to form even one coherent thought. Like Rossley
and most of the kooks, uneducated, uninspired
and outright fucking dumb! God Help America.
tomnln
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RICLAND
Do us a big favor, Luther. The next time you go to Dealey Plaza do
something constructive.
I caught the header and said to myself, "Great, someone's going to give
a nice report."
That didn't happen.
You could have gone to the grassy knoll, examined it, stood behind the
fence, done some dry aiming.
You could have gone into TSBD and timed yourself going down to the
lunchroom.
You could have given us description of things, your sense of things,
where you would have positioned yourself were you with Sturgis and his
gunman.
You get the idea.
ricland
--
"You've shown, cddraftsman, you don't know the meaning of the word
"deposition" not once, not twice, but three times; therefore, nothing
you write will be trusted again. You are, as the say in the legal world,
a foaming mouth incompetent."
-- ricland
" If you just heard gunshots from a certain location, would you want to
immediately RUN TOWARD A PLACE WHERE A KILLER MIGHT BE LOCATED?
If you answer 'yes', please tell me why?? "
-- David Von Pein
aeffects
> And yet another in a never-ending series of examples of a CT-Kook
> MISSING THE BOAT.
>
> LNers don't come here "to get a good laugh at the man who got his head
> blown off".
evidently you should re-read some of Lower_y's posts -- you'd be
surprised who your LN supporters are here, David..... Quite frankly
sicko's is the term that comes to mind...
wig...@xit.net
> luthier4l...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Do us a big favor, Luther. The next time you go to Dealey Plaza do
> something constructive.
>
> I caught the header and said to myself, "Great, someone's going to give
> a nice report."
>
> That didn't happen.
>
> You could have gone to the grassy knoll, examined it, stood behind the
> fence, done some dry aiming.
>
> You could have gone into TSBD and timed yourself going down to the
> lunchroom.
Not physically possible.
guybann...@aol.com
wrote:
>i was preoccupied with why
> things here are the way they are, and it occured to me, those
> probablly most famous words that Kennedy spoke..."Ask not what your
> country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." i
> stared at the street where kennedy's life was destroyed forever. those
> words inspired me to join the military and i retired from there. i did
> my part in serving this great nation, but it seems to me, many many
> have gone astray from those simple words, you see, its not so
> important in how kennedy died, but how we remember how he lived.
OK, stop right there!
I've long been studying and thinking about the JFK assassination
(pushing over 30 years) and I, too, am a veteran.
But PLEASE SHUT UP with all that pathetic "iconic JFK" bullsh*t, for
it's precisely THAT: BS.
As a child of the 1960s I grew up with that incessant drivel about
the "great Kennedy" and I've long since lost my tolerance for it, as I
have with most idiocies (one reason I can't bear to read more than a
few pages of Harrison Livingstone's equally inane bablings regarding
JFK.)
The fact is that JFK was one of the worst slimeballs to ever step
foot into the Oval Office. That's the REALITY -- and ANYONE who knows
ANYTHING about the man knows it's true. (His media-hyped wife was a
bimbo, too -- I have to laugh whenever I see old clips of her
breathlessly antic reporters tours of the White House: "... And Jack
says these drapes remind him of the ones in the hospital room he
stayed in during the war ..." [where he no doubt screwed his German
spy girlfriend a few times] LOL just unbearable stuff.)
>it would seem there are even anti-kennedy's, those who
> have given nothing to this nation, those who only take and take.
> individuals with NO Honor and no morals
LOL you go from fawning over perhaps the most sociopathic president
in history, one who reguarly -- while President and Commander-in-Chief
-- screwed other men's wives (examples: the wives of the U.S. and
Italian ambassadors to Cuba; in at least one instance, while president
he climbed a fence separating his family's Florida estate from his
neighbor's and f*cked the man's wife on the beach, as the Secret
Service literally called the local police in a desperate search for
him, even as the USSR aimed God-knows-how-many nuke-tipped missiles at
the U.S.); cavorted with the girlfriends of the nation's worst
mobsters and emotionally unstable Hollywood starlets/whores; etc etc
etc.
One of the big problems with the JFK assassination research
community is that it's all too infested by tragically naiive
sentimentalists such as yourself. Perhaps if more people were
objective about JFK (as I try to be) we'd have a better reputation
among non-JFK assassination researchers (that is, the public at-
large.)
guybann...@aol.com
conspiracy (as was Julius Caesar, for that matter -- or are those who
believe there was a conspiracy in THAT assassination likewise
"conspiracy nuts"?
For all my disdain (if not contempt ) for the sociopathy called
Kennedy, the JFK and RFK versions in particular, I have no doubt
whatsoever that BOTH of these sleazeballs were indeed killed via
conspiracies.
In particular, and after decades of study of the case, in regards to
the JFK assassination I have moved to the
the CT side especially after reading the findings of two remarkable
books published during
the new millennium: Joan Mellen's fascinating "A Farewell to Justice"
and John Armstrong's utterly intriguing "Harvey and Lee."
In respect to the former, I deeply appreciate the willingness of
Mellen (who, I suspect, is generally associated with left/liberal
views) to "tell it like it is/was" regarding the horror known as
Robert
F. Kennedy and his hired guns, thugs (to use Mellen's quite accurate
term)
such as the stain on American history and American journalism called
Walter Sheridan.
David Von Pein
<roll eyes>
Looks like "Grizzlie 2" is in our midst. Another utterly-despicable,
venom-spewing kook who just can't help but act like an anti-Kennedy
nutcase for no (apparent) good reason whatsoever. Just a hobby I
guess. And a contemptible one too. Makes me sick.
JFK was a very good President and inspired many, many young people in
America while he was in office. Sappy? Well, maybe so. But it's true
nonetheless.
I was born during President Kennedy's 12th month in office in late
1961, and I often wish I had been born sooner....because I would love
to be able to actually remember living through the Camelot years.
The incredibly-sorrowful and heartfelt reaction to JFK's death is a
huge indicator as to how people really felt about the man. I often
wonder to myself if the sudden and tragic death of our current
President (God forbid) would evoke anything close to the shock and
overwhelming grief that was displayed by the majority of Americans in
November of 1963?
Such an awful tragedy would no doubt evoke a powerful reaction in
2007....but I just wonder if it would be as strong and singularly
heartfelt for each mourner (which is the way it seemed to be with John
Kennedy's passing in '63).
A good (but very sad) reminder of just how much John F. Kennedy meant
to this country, circa 1963, can be obtained by watching the excellent
Robert Drew short film "Faces Of November", which has Drew's camera
probing the "faces of November" (i.e., the faces of Kennedy's mourners
in Washington, D.C., during the days immediately following the
assassination). It's a gut-wrenching film that never fails to move me
when I see it.*
* = BTW, that rarely-seen short film can be found as a bonus program
on the DVD containing another of Mr. Drew's very good JFK-related
films ("Crisis: Behind A Presidential Commitment"). Highly recommended
(along with 1960's "Primary").....
>>> "His media-hyped wife was a bimbo, too." <<<
You're entitled to your opinion, sure. And you have every right to
spout your anti-Jackie and anti-JFK and anti-RFK drivel, for sure. But
I have the equal right to say YOU'RE DISGUSTING!
I'm really not too sure you are totally serious with the vile comments
you have uttered in your posts here; but even if you're playing some
kind of weird game, you're still sickening, IMO. Because talk like
this isn't funny...even if you're jesting in some silly way.
The fact is -- Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy was the DEFINITION of class,
grace, beauty, and style. I love that woman. And always will. Her
passing in 1994 was a very sad day for me (and lots of other
Americans). She was only 64 years old, making her death (like JFK's)
all the more tragic due to its prematurity.
Walt
> >>> "The fact is that JFK was one of the worst slimeballs to ever step foot into the Oval Office." <<<
>
> <roll eyes>
>
> Looks like "Grizzlie 2" is in our midst. Another utterly-despicable,
> venom-spewing kook who just can't help but act like an anti-Kennedy
> nutcase for no (apparent) good reason whatsoever. Just a hobby I
> guess. And a contemptible one too. Makes me sick.
Hey Von Pea Brain.....This is one of your boys. He's an original LNer,
and he displays the feelings of the bastards who were behind the
murder of JFK.
Nice bunch that you've alligned yourself with.... Keep defending them,
they need all the help they can get, and you need the money.
Walt
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>
> >>> "His media-hyped wife was a bimbo, too." <<<
>
> You're entitled to your opinion, sure. And you have every right to
> spout your anti-Jackie and anti-JFK and anti-RFK drivel, for sure. But
> I have the equal right to say YOU'RE DISGUSTING!
>
> I'm really not too sure you are totally serious with the vile comments
> you have uttered in your posts here; but even if you're playing some
> kind of weird game, you're still sickening, IMO. Because talk like
> this isn't funny...even if you're jesting in some silly way.
>
> The fact is -- Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy was the DEFINITION of class,
> grace, beauty, and style. I love that woman. And always will. Her
> passing in 1994 was a very sad day for me (and lots of other
> Americans). She was only 64 years old, making her death (like JFK's)
> all the more tragic due to its prematurity.
>
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Ben Holmes
GeorgeWashi...@adelphia.com says...
Why am I suddenly thinking of President Clinton?
muc...@gmail.com
> On 23 Mar, 03:01, "David Von Pein" <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> "The fact is that JFK was one of the worst slimeballs to ever step foot into the Oval Office." <<<
>
> > <roll eyes>
>
> > Looks like "Grizzlie 2" is in our midst. Another utterly-despicable,
> > venom-spewing kook who just can't help but act like an anti-Kennedy
> > nutcase for no (apparent) good reason whatsoever. Just a hobby I
> > guess. And a contemptible one too. Makes me sick.
>
> Hey Von Pea Brain.....This is one of your boys. He's an original LNer,
> and he displays the feelings of the bastards who were behind the
> murder of JFK.
JFK-hating CT'ers and JFK-admiring LN'ers are natural allies? Wow...
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>
> - Vis tekst i anførselstegn -
luthie...@yahoo.com
so you bought the whole kitten caboodle.
why did i get a picture of you shaking hands with nixon saying we are
not crooks. that was the third time i been there so i got nothin to
prove to you or any other Basket Case in this place stupid. im just
here to bake ya and make you look like a moron, which is pretty easy
On Mar 23, 12:00 am, "GeorgeWashingtonAdmi...@adelphia.com"
luthie...@yahoo.com
prove something to yourself, but i aint. go time yourself and see how
long it takes you to go Fuck yourself.
On Mar 22, 11:24 pm, RICLAND <blackwr...@lycos.com> wrote:
luthie...@yahoo.com
On Mar 22, 10:51 pm, "tomnln" <e...@cox.net> wrote:
> Looks like Yo(Momma)Harvey has the night off from I-95.
>
> WHO is Yo(Momma)Harvey?>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
>
> "YoHarvey" <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1174619780.6...@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 22, 10:39 pm, "luthier4l...@yahoo.com" <luthier4l...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Just goes to show you who the real losers are, so far there we got
> >> captain dingleberry and Yo momma's a crack ho, can be bothered to do
> >> anything except sit here much less do anything for this country caus
> >> your sorry pieces of shit. so when you read the post, you couldnt say
> >> anything, caus you thought, .......... YEP IM A LOSER.......... so get
> >> smart..........thats ok, i'll whip ya at that too loser
> >> smart people can act stupid, but stupid people cant act smart,
> >> remember that moron when you confront me you fucking Nazi
>
> >> On Mar 22, 9:34 pm, "David Von Pein" <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
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>
> > Notice the vocabulary of this pseudo moron.
> > Incapable of any creative thinking and no ability
> > to form even one coherent thought. Like Rossley
> > and most of the kooks, uneducated, uninspired
> > and outright fucking dumb! God Help America.- Hide quoted text -
tomnln
#1 I Love beating the snot outta WCR Defenders with evidence/testimony,
#2 I Love beating the snot outta the WCR Defenders with RETALIATION
to their insults/threats.
REPEAT;
I LOVE IT
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/
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RICLAND
> Incidentally, I *DO* believe that JFK was killed as a result of a
> conspiracy (as was Julius Caesar, for that matter -- or are those who
> believe there was a conspiracy in THAT assassination likewise
> "conspiracy nuts"?
>
> Kennedy, the JFK and RFK versions in particular, I have no doubt
> conspiracies.
>
> In particular, in regards to the JFK assassination I have moved the
> the CT side after reading the findings of two books published during
> the new millennium: Joan Mellen's fascinating "A Farewell to Justice"
> and John Armstrong's utterly intriguing "Harvey and Lee."
>
> In respect to the former, I deeply appreciate the willingness of
> Mellen (who, I suspect, is generally associated with left/liberal
> views) to tell it like it is/was regarding the horror known as Robert
> such as the stain on American history and American journalism called
> Walter Sheridan.
>
>
Love to read a properly paragraphed post.
luthie...@yahoo.com
already.......
and yeah.........tom......... it isnt bad as far as laughter goes
either.
On Mar 23, 12:52 pm, "tomnln" <e...@cox.net> wrote:
> If your question is directed to me;
>
> #1 I Love beating the snot outta WCR Defenders with evidence/testimony,
>
> #2 I Love beating the snot outta the WCR Defenders with RETALIATION
> to their insults/threats.
>
> REPEAT;
> I LOVE IThttp://www.whokilledjfk.net/
>
> <luthier4l...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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guybann...@aol.com
> >>> "The fact is that JFK was one of the worst slimeballs to ever step foot into the Oval Office." <<<
> JFK was a very good President
LOL
Unfortunately for you, according to every survey of historians taken
JFK was at best a mediocre president; at worst (which is more
accurate, IMO) a disaster.
>and inspired many, many young people in America while he was in office.
That is undoubtedly true, and may very well be the single positive
thing which can be said in respect to his presidency.
> I was born during President Kennedy's 12th month in office in late
> 1961, and I often wish I had been born sooner....because I would love
> to be able to actually remember living through the Camelot years.
I see the incesssant media conditioning has been quite successful in
your case.
The whole romantic "Camelot" idea, while entertaining, amounted to
little more than an element of "The Selling of the President" after he
was elected. But I can see that you're too steeped in that admittedly
romantic, if substantively hollow, "Camelot" idea, and one thing I'm
sure of is that it's useless to try to "burst the bubble" of anyone
who's got such a longtime, deep attachment to anything as you clearly
to in connection with the "Camelot" paradigm. All I can say is, "Enjoy
it before you wake up one day and are forced to acknowledge that it
was all just a fairytale promoted by certain clever Machiavellians."
> The incredibly-sorrowful and heartfelt reaction to JFK's death is a
> huge indicator as to how people really felt about the man.
True, the "incredibly-sorrowful and heartfelt reaction to JFK's
death" to which you refer is the ONLY kind of reaction I've EVER seen
reported in the media; nonetheless, the fact remains that there were
LOTS of people for whom Thanksgiving, 1963 held special poignancy.
This is NOT to say that anyone should have actually celebrated JFK's
demise; whatever one thought of him, his assassination was a crime
against the American People and, had the Warren Commission/FBI
actually engaged in an investigation of integrity (on-the-ground FBI
agents wanted to, and tried to, do a real investigation but were
thwarted by J. Edna Hoover) the criminals who killed JFK would have
been brought to justice long ago.
> >>> "His media-hyped wife was a bimbo, too." <<<
>
> You're entitled to your opinion, sure. And you have every right to
> spout your anti-Jackie and anti-JFK and anti-RFK drivel, for sure. But
> I have the equal right to say YOU'RE DISGUSTING!
Absolutely. After all, theTruth is to someone such as yourself as a
cross is to a vampire.
> The fact is -- Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy was the DEFINITION of class,
> grace, beauty, and style.
I'm reminded of how on-the-scene observers "Jackie Ewww!" reported
on her "hyena-like" smile as the golddigger rode in a limo to the
burial of her 2nd husband, billionaire Aristotle Onassis. Teddy
Kennedy was purportedly in the vehicle as well and, during the trip,
purportedly turned to the sobbing daughter of the deceased and
nauseatingly callously stated, "Now it's time to $take$ $care$ of
Jackie."
>I love that woman. And always will. Her
> passing in 1994 was a very sad day for me (and lots of other
> Americans). She was only 64 years old, making her death (like JFK's)
> all the more tragic due to its prematurity.
Go back and watch some tv clips of her during her philandering
husband's tenure in the White House -- she was a laughningstock of an
airhead.
Of course, the same networks which unfailingly (and totally falsely)
portrayed her husband as a great family man and icon -- while in
reality he was compromising himself right land left, and thereby
endangering the People, with his reckless narcissistic behavior WHICH
THE MEDIA KNEW OF -- know exactly how to "put lipstick on a pig" so
that the clueless and naiive (like you, Von Penis) swallow it
whole.
David Von Pein
More disgusting tripe being spewed forth by an insensitive retard, I
see. Nice.
>>> "This is NOT to say that anyone should have actually celebrated JFK's demise..." <<<
But, being the distasteful and disgusting kook you obviously are,
you'll "celebrate" his death now (in a kind of "retrospect" type of
fashion), right?
>>> "Had the WC/FBI actually engaged in an investigation of integrity {<tripe snipped in the middle here>}, the criminals who killed JFK would have been brought to justice long ago." <<<
The criminal was brought to justice. His name was Lee. And he got what
he deserved via Ruby's .38 snub-nosed.
Next hunk of tripe please?....
>>> "She {Jackie} was a laughingstock of an airhead." <<<
And by your skewed reckoning, her "airheadedness" was due merely to
the "breathless" nature of her voice. I see nothing else in your
disgusting tripe-filled posts to indicate any other reason you feel
Jackie was a "bimbo". Maybe I missed those reasons (thankfully so).
Jackie, in reality, was an extremely-well-educated, bright, and witty
woman, who charmed foreign heads-of-state like no other First Lady has
ever done, before or since "Camelot".
But, then again, perhaps Mr. DeGaulle merely thought Jackie was a
"bimbo" too. He was probably "faking" when he seemed to melt while in
her presence. Right?
<significant mounds of anti-Kennedy bullshit snipped here>
>>> "...The clueless and naive (like you, Von Penis) swallow it whole." <<<
I wonder if Mr. Tripe realized the opening he's left me by using
"penis" and "swallow it whole" back-to-back like that. ~ponders~
Anyway, what we're left with is still more disgusting tripe from a
disturbed individual, it would seem.
My regards to McMurphy and Nurse Ratched. (And my best to Lucifer when
you see him, too.)
Allow me to reverse the trend of Mr. Retard's anti-Kennedy ramblings
by closing this post with something pleasant about the finest First
Lady ever to live on Pennsylvania Avenue.....
luthie...@yahoo.com
now.........
you think that way not because you loved the president, but because
you hated him, and his death is the ultimate laugh to you and the
government coverup.
makes sense now.problem is, that you have sacrificed your ethics if
you ever had any, and now all your judgment is all skewed, and you
have to turn a blind eye to all that happens now. hmmmmm i dont
suppose you mind that too much, i mean, corruption only breeds more
corruption, and the fact that your here, pushing and protecing the
cover up, you must be a pretty corrupt fucker already, if you could
possiblly get any worse. im glad you waste your life here and have no
job thats worth a shit, because its fuckers like you that make shit
like this possible.
so yeah, stay here on the computer for me to abuse, its better than
you pushing your bullshit on the american public, they will only laugh
at you right...........yep........21 out of 23 will
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