JOHN B. CONNALLY: WHEN WAS HE HIT?

[David Von Pein]

www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/7de305e9fd9f8d30

>>> "[Connally said:] "We had just made the turn when I heard what I thought was a shot. ... I instinctively turned to my right because the sound appeared to come from over my right shoulder, so I turned to look back over my right shoulder"." <<<

Yes, precisely. Which is just what Mr. Connally does starting at Z164
(after hearing Oswald's first shot, a missed shot, which occurred at
approx. Z160). It's the ONLY "right turn" on the film that matches
anything close to JBC's "first-shot right turn" testimony. To think
that his "first-shot right turn" occurred much later is just silly and
totally ignores way more evidence than you think I'm ignoring.

>>> "The shot that hit Kennedy clearly occured [sic] BEFORE Connolly [sic] looked over his right shoulder. Watch the film and tell me different." <<<

Connally definitely does turn completely around to his right and looks
directly at JFK at a certain point on the film. Everyone can obviously
see him doing this. But everyone with a brain can also see quite
clearly that by the time Connally turns to his right to stare directly
at Jack Kennedy, the Governor has ALREADY BEEN HIT BY A BULLET.

Also: Due to the trauma of being hit by Oswald's bullet at Z224, Mr.
Connally (who we can SEE is looking straight at JFK in post-224
frames) said he never even saw JFK at any point after the gunfire
started.

Kinda odd, huh...since we can see JBC looking straight at JFK? But
it's not quite so strange when we factor in the trauma of the bullet
wound Connally has just suffered. He turns and stares at JFK, but he
later can't remember doing so at all.*

* = Much the same way that Jackie could never remember climbing onto
the trunk of the limousine following the head shot to her husband. It
was blocked out of her memory due to other horrific things happening
to her at that precise moment.

The same explanation (i.e., a spotty memory) can no doubt also be
applied to John Connally's right turn and his looking directly at the
President after being struck at Z224, but afterward not remembering it
happened.

Also -- Connally's own testimony tells us that he shouted "No, no, no"
only AFTER he was hit by a bullet. We can see JBC forming the word
"No" on the Z-Film just after he was hit at Z224. And keep in mind
that nobody in the limo recalls the Governor saying ANYTHING ELSE at
all after the shooting started...except "Oh, no, no, no" and "My God,
they're going to kill us all".

And Connally is obviously moving his lips and forming WORDS just after
being hit at Z224. How do you explain this major problem in your
shooting timeline, Geoff?

BTW, if you start spelling Connally's name correctly, it might improve
your posts. Continually misspelling a person's name (even after being
corrected, which I did with my "sic" insertions previously) is just
plain rude (IMO).

>>> "The Warren Commission went onto conclude, contrary to your speculations, that Governor Connolly [sic] underwent a delayed reaction." <<<

And they ALSO said that the Governor and the President were probably
hit by one bullet between Z-Film frames 210 and 225. And that range
includes the actual SBT frame (Z224). (IMO, that is.)

>>> "An anomaly appears at Connolly's [sic] back at Z337. It appears only in this frame and is red in colour. I think this is a blood splash." <<<

Yes, I've seen it too. And, yes, it's probably blood coming from
Connally's back wound that he sustained at Z224. But so what?

You actually believe Connally was struck after the JFK head shot??

Are you sure your name isn't Gary Myers? I had many arguments with
that Lancer member years ago about this very same insane theory of
Connally not being hit at all until well after Z313 (including the
discussion linked below):

http://www.jfklancerforum.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=3&topic_id=21230&mesg_id=21230&page=&topic_page=2#21255

You might also consider this -- If Connally's "They're going to kill
us all" statement IS, in fact, what we're seeing him say as his mouth
is moving on the Z-Film before he collapses -- then doesn't THAT fact
alone indicate Connally had been shot well before the head shot?

I.E.: WHY would Connally make this kind of personal statement
(including the words "us all") if someone OTHER than JFK hadn't
already been hit?

I never could convince Gary that such a "Connally Was Shot After Z313"
theory is just plain ridiculous and totally ignores these frames of
the Zapruder Film (below), which are frames depicting Governor
Connally in obvious distress from having just been shot in the
back.....

http://users.skynet.be/mar/SBT/Images2/222-262%20full-small.gif

http://216.122.129.112/dc/user_files/4594.gif

[aeffects]

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[David Von Pein]

>>> "I'll show you how to oput [sic; sigh] together a few sentences, the real way." <<<

Healy must major in "Irony I Never See" there at Crackpipe Tech.

What's NOT to love about this kook. He can't possibly be for real.
(Can he?)

[Darth on:]

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[/Darth, my main heavy-breathing dude, off.]

[YoHarvey]

A few sentences together? Healy the illiterate putting a few
sentences together lol. Healy? Apparently ALL of your consulting for
Silicon Valley didn't provide YOU with enough money to move yourself
and family out of the flea infested apartment you currently reside
in. Embarrassing huh?

[aeffects]

On Apr 17, 2:59 pm, YoHarvey <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 5:56 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >>> "I'll show you how to oput [sic; sigh] together a few sentences, the real way." <<<
>
> > Healy must major in "Irony I Never See" there at Crackpipe Tech.
>
> > What's NOT to love about this kook. He can't possibly be for real.
> > (Can he?)
>
> > [Darth on:]
>
> > "Come with me [Healy-Kook], my son. I can show you the way to
> > the Dark Side [CTism]! Take my hand, Luke...er...I mean 'Von Pea
> > Brain'! The power of The Kook Force shall be with you! And I've got
> > lots and lots of needles too! New ones! No more dumpster-digging! No
> > more awaking in your own vomit! No more having to rely on the only
> > bullets in the case! You can be free to theorize with your father,
> > Luke! Free to think what you want to think! Free to see NO ZAPRUDER on
> > that pedestal! (And you'll get to wear black all the time too. It's a
> > great perk. Makes you look cool and studly.)"
>
> > [/Darth, my main heavy-breathing dude, off.]
>
> I see..... that money in those Lone Nut bank accounts finally got to
> ya, eh?

hundreds of thousands of dollahsssss, troll..... Makes you want to
cringe don't it?