WALTER CRONKITE HAS PASSED AWAY AT AGE 92
David Von Pein
rwalker
Very sad, though not unexpected. For me, he was the voice of the
Kennedy assassination, the Vietnam War, and the space race. I thought
he'd live at least through the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11
landing on Monday.
bigdog
I suspect Dan Rather was behind it.
David Von Pein
>>> "Who was it who said we should not speak ill of the dead? How long should that last? Many of us researchers have always hated Chronkite [sic; ~sigh~] for his being a CIA stooge [~bigger sigh~] and participating in the cover-up. Dan Rather the same thing." <<<
You're crazy, Marsh. (Not to mention a fucking retard.)
David Von Pein
FROM WIM DANKBAAR'S RETARD PIT AT JFKMURDERSOLVED.COM:
http://jfkmurdersolved.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1349
A KOOK NAMED "ThomZajac" SPEWED THIS REPULSIVE BULLSHIT ON 7/18/09:
>>> "Okay, I tried watching the Cronkite PBS special. I tried. Cronkite is nothing short of a complete disgrace, working very hard to appear reasonable, open minded, and even handed, when in fact--and there really can be absolutely no denying it--he is doing everything he possibly can to convince the viewer that the lone assassin conclusion was a thoughtful, HONEST, and reasonable one. Oh, he says, it might be possible that Oswald had an accomplice, but a careful examination of the facts and evidence using all the latest scientific methods makes the long gunman conclusion even more viable than it was twenty five years ago, blah blah blah blah blah. I'm surprised that some of your guys are so seduced by spokesman for the CIA. Cronkite was BAD for America. BAD for democracy. He was a BAD man." <<<
FOLLOWED BY THIS FROM ANOTHER KOOK NAMED KEN MURRAY (NOT THE FORMER
ACTOR AND "HOLLYWOOD HOME MOVIE" GURU OF THE 1940s, 1950s, AND 1960s,
HOWEVER; THIS IS A DIFFERENT KEN MURRAY; THIS ONE ON DANKBAAR'S FORUM
HAS A FIXATION FOR ME....PLUS HE'S A REAL NUTHATCH TOO FROM ALL
PRESENT INDICATIONS RE. THE JFK ASSASSINATION):
>>> "Joseph Goebbels would also be proud of one David Von Pein and his spewing propaganda on the JFK assassination." <<<
A KOOK NAMED "BOB" THEN STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND OFFERED UP THESE
GEMS:
>>> "Von Pein "in the ass" and his ilk are just an extension of the disinformation machine that the MSM uses, both with the way the news is delivered, what news is delivered and when the news is delivered. The disinformation machine also makes sure that some real news is never talked about in the MSM...things like the Bu$h involvement in the assassination of JFK and events like 9/11. I would bet that less than 10% of the American population know about Operation Northwoods in 1962 (a similar plan to the events of 9/11 hatched by the neocons) or know that Prescott Bu$h was not only a Nazi sympathizer and investor, but also involved in a coup to overthrow FDR. The Bu$H family and those in the power elite help fund and support cowards like Von Pein, McAdams and Mack to keep people away from the real truth of 11/22/1963 and the REAL recent history in the United States." <<<
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When you read silly tripe like the above three messages from
Dankbaar's "All Kook Network" [AKN-TV and AKN-Radio], it just makes
you feel kinda sick....doesn't it?
I've heard multiple people starting to bad-mouth the late Walter
Cronkite, who was unquestionably a very good and decent and HONEST
man. The bad-mouthers include our very own aaj forum member and
marathon poster, Anthony Marsh. Marsh said this about the Most Trusted
Man In America just 24 hours after Mr. Cronkite's passing (and the
retard named Marsh didn't even have the decency to spell Mr.
Cronkite's name correctly; twice in one post Marsh misspelled it too;
probably deliberately, in order to denigrate Walter's memory even more
by mangling the spelling of his great name):
"Who was it who said we should not speak ill of the dead? How
long should that last? Many of us researchers have always hated
Chronkite [sic] for his being a CIA stooge and participating in the
cover-up. Dan Rather the same thing." -- A. Marsh; 07/18/09
The above negative comments about Walter Cronkite are beyond pathetic
-- they're downright sickening.
Marsh should be ashamed that he allowed those back-stabbing words to
slip from his keyboard. But he's not ashamed at all. And neither are
"Bob" and "Thom" and Ken at Dankbaar's snake pit of crackpottery.
Of course, it's to be pretty much expected that many of the outer-
fringe JFK conspiracy theorists almost HAVE to believe that Walter
Cronkite (along with Dan Rather, Eric Sevareid, and Eddie Barker of
CBS News as well) are devious Government-sponsored shills of some
kind.
Because if Cronkite, et al, are NOT the cover-up artists that people
like "Thom" and Tony Marsh believe them to be -- then it's very, very
likely that those conspiracy theorists' favorite "patsy" for all
11/22/63 murders in Dallas was GUILTY of the two murders he was
charged with committing that day in Texas.
And that's true because of the extensive and detailed re-investigation
into President Kennedy's assassination that was conducted by the CBS
Television Network in 1967 (and, to a somewhat lesser extent, by CBS
in 1964 as well).
Every single test and re-examination of evidence that was done by CBS
in 1964 and 1967 favors the likelihood of Lee Harvey Oswald being able
to perform his evil deed of double-murder -- by himself! -- on
November 22nd, 1963. Without a doubt.
So, if Cronkite & Company (including Rather, Sevareid, and Barker,
among many others at CBS News in the mid-1960s) were being truthful
and above-board with the facts and evidence surrounding JFK's
assassination during those lengthy CBS specials that they did in '64
and '67....where does that leave the "Anybody But Oswald" conspiracy
nuts?
It leaves them up a tree without a ladder (and without a second gunman
on the Grassy Knoll either).
But, as sad as it is, those people who are bashing a very good man
like Walter Cronkite are probably PROUD of their hateful words. People
like that usually are. And people like that rarely feel themselves
getting red in the face after saying something incredibly stupid.
And when it comes to incredibly-stupid statements being spoken on the
Internet in the last couple of days since the sad news of Mr.
Cronkite's death, the one repeated below takes home first prize in the
"Most Pathetic & Vomit-Inducing" category:
"Cronkite is nothing short of a complete disgrace. .... Cronkite
was BAD for America. BAD for democracy. He was a BAD man."
I feel the urge to slap somebody silly after reading the above
garbage. But it wouldn't do any good. Because the person who penned
the above junk doesn't have any feelings at all .... so he'd never
even feel my backhanded blow to his rotten face.
God bless you, Walter C.
I miss you already.
David Von Pein
July 19, 2009
David Von Pein
www.JFKMurderSolved.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1351
www.JFKAssassinationForum.com/index.php/topic,826.0.html
>>> "Well, Con Pein [sic; CUTE, THOUGH, KENNY] calling people names again? Don't worry I will pass it along your comments to Thom and Bob. As far as you go you big coward go around the internet and spewing your garbage about DiEugenio. If he is 100% wrong like you said he is, why don't you debate him there chicken? What you afraid of chicken, you might disappoint your adoring fan John Beckham? The reason you will not debate DiEugenio is (1) You would get your clocked rung (2) you are chicken and (3) you would get exposed to what a buffoon and phony you are. Be sure to listen in about 12 days for DiEugenio's next appearance on Black Op Radio. I have a feeling you will get even more air time this go around in more detailed. Oh be sure now, that after the interview is over there chicken, you spend all night doing a review of the program and send it all over the internet as so you do so well hiding behind your so called " paper debates". Oh BTW, Happy Bugliosi promoting." <<<
Well, like I said in an earlier post (and it certainly deserves a
replay after Ken Murray's latest absurd post):
"KEN MURRAY...HAS A FIXATION FOR ME....PLUS HE'S A REAL NUTHATCH
TOO FROM ALL PRESENT INDICATIONS RE. THE JFK ASSASSINATION." -- DVP
BTW, Ken, I do appreciate your posting my messages to other fora (and
to King DiEugenio via e-mail). It definitely helps get the message out
to a slightly-wider audience concerning the type of despicable
conspiracy-happy kooks that I deal with on the Internet on a daily
basis. (Including people who now seem to want to verbally assault a
good, honest man like Walter Cronkite. THAT is truly despicable,
without doubt.)
Fire up that e-mail to Saint DiEugenio now, Ken. You don't want to
miss another golden opportunity to say nasty things about David "Con
Pein" to your Lord and master named James.
David Von Pein
www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,826.msg10162.html#msg10162
>>> "If Walter Cronkite was putting disinformation out there..." <<<
He wasn't (of course). Oswald did it. And probably did it alone. And
all reasonable people who have examined the case for several years
know that fact.
Plus, it might surprise a lot of the conspiracy crowd to know just how
far in the extreme MINORITY they are with regard to the question of
"WAS LEE OSWALD A GUNMAN IN DEALEY PLAZA?"
Per the latest major poll (in November 2003), when asked a specific
question about whether or not Oswald was a "GUNMAN" on 11/22/63, only
7% of the 1,031 people polled were of the opinion that Oswald was "Not
Involved" AS A GUNMAN in Dealey Plaza:
www.pollingreport.com/news2.htm#Kennedy
That's quite revealing and interesting, IMO. (Especially when we
consider how many "Anybody But Oswald" conspiracy nuts are populating
the Internet, circa 2009.)
Now, I'm not saying that the majority of those 1,031 ABC News Poll
respondents are well-schooled in the details of the JFK case. Most
people aren't. But, still, it shows a general feeling among over 1,000
Americans that Oswald was certainly not the "innocent patsy" that so
many "Anybody But Oswald" theorists want to pretend he was.
>>> "Actually, I firmly suspect that you are actively putting out disinformation regarding JFK on purpose, so it makes sense that you would want to use the Walter Cronkite issue to try and make us look bad over at www.jfkmurdersolved.com." <<<
I'm actively putting out the FACTS AND EVIDENCE connected with the JFK
assassination. That's what I'm doing. And all reasonable people know
this too.
But thanks for today's laugh, Pasquale. I always enjoy it (immensely!)
when somebody decides that I'm a "CIA agent" or a "WC shill" or a
"Bugliosi mouthpiece" or a "WC apologist" (that last one is my
favorite).
When I hear such things, it only makes me smile broadly....because it
only confirms to me just how WRONG the conspiracy theorists can be.
(And, of course, they are wrong about virtually everything regarding
the JFK case.)
>>> "If you seriously think Bugliosi's book is worth more than toilet paper, either you don't know what you're talking about, or you are in on the game of deceiving the public with him." <<<
LOL #2.
Bugliosi's book is the JFK Bible. I.E. -- It reveals the truth about
JFK's assassination...without a doubt.
And the constant whining and crying of a bunch of Internet
conspiracists will never turn Mr. Bugliosi's masterwork "Reclaiming
History" into "toilet paper". Instead, it's 2,800 pages of facts,
evidence, SOURCES, and (above all) common sense.
Funny thing is -- I'm fairly certain that the people who love to
continually bash Vince Bugliosi's magnificent book have never even
read a single chapter of the book!
Incredible.
Lots more facts and evidence below:
www.google.com/group/Reclaiming-History/browse_thread/thread/28d2b874f20d7511
David Von Pein
www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,826.15.html
>>> "I've read plenty of information on Bugliosi's book, and I have read excerpts from it. It's disinformation." <<<
Just as I thought. You've never read it.
~yawn~
Also......
I'm sitting here wondering to myself how it can be that things like
FACTS and ACTUAL EVIDENCE can be considered "disinformation".
But...that's the topsy-turvy, upside-down world of a conspiracy
theorist for you.
The conspiracy kooks can't even figure out who killed Officer J.D.
Tippit.
How's THAT for remaining in the dark?
>>> "You're the one who is nuts if you actually believe Bugliosi's trash. Actually, I don't think you're nuts at all. I think you have a motive. What are you getting out of promoting Bugliosi?" <<<
Well, let's see.....I got an inscribed copy of the book for free from
Mr. Bugliosi. (I really didn't need another copy though. I aleady had
two when Vince sent me another one in July 2007. But it's nice he
thought of me anyway.)
Other than the autographed copy of the book and the satisfaction of
spreading the "RH" truth around the Internet....I guess I'm getting
nothing at all.*
* = Unless you want to consider the many laughs I get from the
conspiracy kooks a "benefit". I almost never stop laughing at the
stupid things I'm constantly being called by the CTers. So that's a
perpetual perk derived out of endorsing Vincent's tome.
David Von Pein
www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,826.0.html
I put the "probably" in there for a good reason.
Since there's a very small possibility that Oswald could have had help
(in some small way) in planning the assassination, I like to leave the
"conspiracy" door open just a small crack. (Although, I'll readily
admit that most of the time in my many posts I tend to leave out the
"probably" part of the "He acted alone" statement.)
We can never know with 100% certainty that Oswald didn't have some
help in planning the shooting. But it's highly doubtful he had ANY
help at all....because Oswald's actions AFTER the assassination just
reek with the words: "I'M ALL ALONE OUT HERE!"
And there is absolutely NO doubt at all that ONLY bullets fired from
Oswald's Mannlicher-Carcano rifle struck either of the two victims
inside the Presidential limousine on 11/22/63. There is no question
about that ironclad fact.
I don't feel the need to repeat every last thing that points
irresistibly to Lee Oswald's guilt in the TWO murders he committed in
Dallas on November 22nd....so I will refer you to these links which
lay it all out (if you don't want to point-&-click, so be it; but the
facts are here anyway...if you want them):
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4a6b3390021d657c
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/8845d85a86407d31
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/21a74044f466fdc1
Coondog
> www.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/thread/e6bdf...
>
> >>> "Who was it who said we should not speak ill of the dead? How long should that last? Many of us researchers have always hated Chronkite [sic; ~sigh~] for his being a CIA stooge [~bigger sigh~] and participating in the cover-up. Dan Rather the same thing." <<<
>
> You're crazy, Marsh. (Not to mention a fucking retard.)
Yes, Mr. Mash is all those things and an obnoxious asshole to boot.
Bill Clarke