Brennan:..I IDENTIFIED THE WINDOW AS ONE WINDOW FROM THE TOP
Lone
roof
attic -----on from the top:
7th floor (Were Brennan saw the shooter)
6thfloor...(Were Yarman, Norman and Williams watched the parade...)
Quote: WCH
Mr. Brennan.
I asked him to get me someone in charge, a Secret Service man or
an FBI. That it appeared to me that they were searching in the wrong
direction for the man that did the shooting.
And he was definitely in the building on the sixth floor.
I did not say on the sixth floor. Correction there.
I believe I identified the window as one window from the top.
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David Von Pein
When talking about a SEVEN-story building, "one window from the top"
so obviously means the SIXTH floor, and only an evidence-mangling
idiot could possibly belioeve otherwise.
If Brennan had really meant the 7th Floor, he would have said "THE TOP
FLOOR" or "THE TOP WINDOW", not "one window FROM the top".
Why does this even need to be explained to people. It couldn't be more
obvious.
Lone
> When talking about a SEVEN-story building, "one window from the top"
> so obviously means the SIXTH floor, and only an evidence-mangling
> idiot could possibly belioeve otherwise.
>
> If Brennan had really meant the 7th Floor, he would have said "THE TOP
> FLOOR" or "THE TOP WINDOW", not "one window FROM the top".
>
> Why does this even need to be explained to people. It couldn't be more
> obvious.
>
Don't forget the attic! I am not naive. The witty WC-laywers not only
made a (well known) window charade, to muddy the water, they made a
floor-charade too!
David Von Pein
>>> "Don't forget the attic! I am not naive. The witty WC lawyers not only made a (well known) window charade, to muddy the water, they made a floor charade too!" <<<
What floor were the shells found on, Mr. "Lone"? Sixth or seventh?
What floor was the rifle found on? 6th or 7th?
What floor did Bob Jackson and Amos Euins and Mal Couch see a rifle
pointing out of, Lone? 6th or 7th?
And via the TSBD photo below, where's the "attic"? As far as I'm
aware, there was no "attic" in the TSBD. The 7th floor led to the
ROOF. Are you considering the ROOF to be the "attic"?
LOL.
And even if there was an "attic" floor above the 7th Floor, it
wouldn't affect Brennan's "one window from the top" comment....because
"one WINDOW from the top" is the SIXTH floor, not the 7th, and not the
"attic" (which, even if there was an "attic", would have been a
WINDOWLESS attic).
Plus -- We know that Howard Brennan wasn't referring to any seventh-
floor window at all, because he circled the SIXTH-FLOOR window on TWO
different Warren Commission exhibits during his WC testimony in 1964
(CE477 and CE481):
CE477:
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0112a.htm
CE481:
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pages/WH_Vol17_0113a.jpg
In addition -- If there had been a SEVENTH-floor assassin in the Book
Depository, he must have been firing through a CLOSED window, because
every window on the 7th Floor was completely closed at the time of the
assassination (as can easily be determined via the uncropped Tom
Dillard photo, linked below):
I'm convinced -- JFK conspiracy kooks have no capacity for logical
thought. None whatever.
Lone
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> In addition -- If there had been a SEVENTH-floor assassin in the Book
> Depository, he must have been firing through a CLOSED window
There are no pics showing the westend-seventh floor window immediately
after, or during the shooting...I know the reason why...there was the
Rowland-Brennan-shooter aiming at Kennedy...his rifle including the
barrel was seen not only by the Rowlands prior to the shooting, but by
Brennan, Amos Euins and Worrel...
Thos 6 eyewitness saw a westend-window seventh floor shooter.
Do you know the condition of the the 7th floor during the shooting?
I would say, the seventh floor was ideal for a shooter. Nobody up
there, just him, and the possibility to stand up and shoot.
I believe the 7th floor was a so called "safe floor", (like there are
CIA-safe-houses). One of the greatest victory's of the ongoing US-it
was ossi-PR-campaign is, to put away the attention of all serious JFK-
researchers from that 7th floor! Which, I believe was a "safe-floor".
That all starts by misleading eyewitness like Brennan, Euins and
Worrell by guys like Arlen Specter...
The name 6th floor museum itself is a big hoax! Mack has to go one
floor upwards.
David Von Pein
>>> "There are no pics showing the westend-seventh floor window immediately after, or during the shooting." <<<
Sure there is, and I even linked to it in my last post, you idiot --
it's the uncropped Tom Dillard picture (which was taken within just a
few seconds of Lee Harvey Oswald firing the last of his three shots at
President Kennedy). And it shows EVERY single window on the seventh
floor. Every one. And they're ALL CLOSED SHUT. Every one.
Here's the uncropped Dillard picture again:
Plus -- Dillard is obviously focusing his two cameras on the EAST side
of the Depository Building (particularly in the close-up picture
showing Oswald's southeast corner window and Norman and Williams on
the fifth floor).
Plus -- There is Dillard's testimony regarding the window from where
shots were fired and where Bob Jackson saw the gun--and it's the EAST
side of the building (and only a moron like "Lone" would pretend that
both Tom Dillard and Robert Jackson were "in" on a cover-up plot):
TOM DILLARD -- "We had an absolutely perfect view of the School
Depository from our position in an open car, and Bob Jackson said,
"There's a rifle barrel up there." I said, "Where?" I had my camera
ready. He said, "It's in that open window." Of course, there were
several open windows and I scanned the building. .... And at the same
time I brought my camera up and I was looking for the window. Now this
was after the third shot and Jackson said, "there's the rifle barrel
up there." And then he said it was the second from the top in the
right-hand side, and I swung to it and there was two figures below,
and I just shot with one camera, 100-mm. lens on a 35-mm. camera which
is approximately a two times daily photo twice normal lens and a wide
angle on a 35-mm., which took in a considerable portion of the
building and I shot those pictures in rapid sequence with the two
cameras."
>>> "There was the Rowland-Brennan-shooter aiming at Kennedy...his rifle including the barrel was seen not only by the Rowlands prior to the shooting, but by Brennan, Amos Euins and Worrel [sic]. Those 6 eyewitnesses [IT'S ACTUALLY ONLY FOUR WITNESSES, NOT SIX; BARBARA ROWLAND SAW NO GUNMAN ANYWHERE] saw a westend-window seventh floor shooter." <<<
You're an idiot.
You're putting a gun in the hands of a non-existent seventh-floor
killer despite the fact we know that Euins, Worrell, and Brennan
positively said they saw the gun in an EAST-END window. Worrell was
standing by the TSBD front door, looked UP and saw a rifle. Is that
supposed to be the WEST side of the building that Worrell was looking
STRAIGHT UP at?!
Let's listen to James R. Worrell for a moment (providing further proof
that Mr. "Lone" is a certifiable evidence-skewing retard):
JAMES WORRELL -- "I told the FBI it was either in the fifth or the
sixth floor on the far corner, on the east side."
ARLEN SPECTER -- "Now looking at the picture which we have identified
as Commission Exhibit No. 360, which is where you have drawn an "X,"
can you indicate the line of vision which you followed to the point
where the rifle was to the best of your ability to recollect?"
CE360 (marked by James Worrell):
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0491a.htm
>>> "Do you know the condition of the the 7th floor during the shooting?" <<<
Who cares? The seventh floor played no part whatsoever in the
assassination of John F. Kennedy. A super-silly kook named "Lone" is
probably the only person on the planet who believes otherwise.
>>> "I would say, the seventh floor was ideal for a shooter." <<<
And I would say this --
The insane rantings of a conspiracy kook named "Lone" couldn't
possibly matter less.
>>> "Nobody up there, just him, and the possibility to stand up and shoot. I believe the 7th floor was a so called "safe floor", (like there are CIA-safe-houses). One of the greatest victory's of the ongoing US-it was ossi-PR-campaign is, to put away the attention of all serious JFK-researchers from that 7th floor! Which, I believe was a "safe-floor". That all starts by misleading eyewitness like Brennan, Euins and Worrell by guys like Arlen Specter...The name 6th floor museum itself is a big hoax! Mack has to go one floor upwards." <<<
You're ready for a rubber room, "Lone".
Somebody fetch Nurse Ratched (again)!
(Seems like Ratched is constantly being called to this asylum. And
she's definitely needed this morning to place a net around Mr.
"Lone".)
Walt
> >>> "There are no pics showing the westend-seventh floor window immediately after, or during the shooting." <<<
>
> Sure there is, and I even linked to it in my last post, you idiot --
> it's the uncropped Tom Dillard picture (which was taken within just a
> few seconds of Lee Harvey Oswald firing the last of his three shots at
> President Kennedy). And it shows EVERY single window on the seventh
> floor. Every one. And they're ALL CLOSED SHUT. Every one.
>
> Here's the uncropped Dillard picture again:
>
Hey Von Pea Brain....If you're standing on the south side of a
building near the SE corner of that building, WHERE will the "FAR
CORNER" be??
James Worrell confirmed Howard Brennan's observation.... The gunman
was aiming the rifle out of the corner window at the WEST end of the
TSBD..
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> ARLEN SPECTER -- "Now looking at the picture which we have identified
> as Commission Exhibit No. 360, which is where you have drawn an "X,"
> can you indicate the line of vision which you followed to the point
> where the rifle was to the best of your ability to recollect?"
>
> CE360 (marked by James Worrell):http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0...
mucher1
Read it again, Walt. Worrell specifically said "the east side." He
even marked the window with an "X" (see CE 360 below).
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0491a.htm
I hope this clears up the matter for you, Walt.
Lone
It is impossible to prove at what exact moment this Dillard pic was
shot...some say, it was shot prior to the shooting...and does the
Dillard photo show any rifle or anyone holding a rifle in any window?
NO.This pic is worthless crap.
BTW:
I think the hole sixth floor museum is a kind of rubber room with
head banging Gary Mack as it's main inmate...a well paid activity...if
his salary is 180 000 bucks a year. (Thats the offer the city fathers
of Dallas made Robert Groden for the curator-job... Only condition:
do not talk supportive about a conspiracy...)
Something about "safe floors".
Cauncy Holt about a building in downtown L.A. where he worked as CIA
forger in 1962:
quote
"..the first 4 floors of this building where devoted to the genuine
business (of the firm which rented that house)(...) but the top floor
was devoted to our clandestine operation..."
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Wim Dankbaars C. Holt video 37min 20sec...
Lone
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> I hope this clears up the matter for you, Walt.
>
> > > ARLEN SPECTER -- "Now looking at the picture which we have identified
> > > as Commission Exhibit No. 360, which is where you have drawn an "X,"
> > > can you indicate the line of vision which you followed to the point
> > > where the rifle was to the best of your ability to recollect?"
>
> > > CE360 (marked by James Worrell):http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0...
>
> > > >>> "Do you know the condition of the the 7th floor during the shooting?" <<<
>
> > > Who cares? The seventh floor played no part whatsoever in the
> > > assassination of John F. Kennedy. A super-silly kook named "Lone" is
> > > probably the only person on the planet who believes otherwise.
>
> > > >>> "I would say, the seventh floor was ideal for a shooter." <<<
>
> > > And I would say this --
>
> > > The insane rantings of a conspiracy kook named "Lone" couldn't
> > > possibly matter less.
>
> > > >>> "Nobody up there, just him, and the possibility to stand up and shoot. I believe the 7th floor was a so called "safe floor", (like there are CIA-safe-houses). One of the greatest victory's of the ongoing US-it was ossi-PR-campaign is, to put away the attention of all serious JFK-researchers from that 7th floor! Which, I believe was a "safe-floor". That all starts by misleading eyewitness like Brennan, Euins and Worrell by guys like Arlen Specter...The name 6th floor museum itself is a big hoax! Mack has to go one floor upwards." <<<
>
> > > You're ready for a rubber room, "Lone".
>
> > > Somebody fetch Nurse Ratched (again)!
>
> > > (Seems like Ratched is constantly being called to this asylum. And
> > > she's definitely needed this morning to place a net around Mr.
> > > "Lone".)
>
Be careful: in those WC-Hearings the hidden hand of the forgers made a
floor-charade, a window-charade and an east-west charade to mislead
both: the witness and the reader!
Lone
>
> Hey Von Pea Brain....If you're standing on the south side of a
> building near the SE corner of that building, WHERE will the "FAR
> CORNER" be??
>
> James Worrell confirmed Howard Brennan's observation.... The gunman
> was aiming the rifle out of the corner window at the WEST end of the
> TSBD..
>
Yes. And Amos Euins saw that rifle too. He saw a:) a rifle with its
barrel sticking out the west-end-window, (which i believe was the
"long" window at the seventh floor) and b.) a pipe ( 1 inch diam.), in
the OSSI window...obviously NOT a rifle...
Lone
quote
(10-20-77 HSCA interview, portion posted on alt.assassination.JFK)
"And then 3 shots was fired: Boom, clack-clack, boom, clack-clack,
boom. One at a time. I see the President fall back and do high
hand." (When asked from where he thought the shots were coming) "From
right up above me, up on the fifth floor. And I knew the shots had to
be on the 6th floor, you know, on top of the roof."
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BUT "on top of the roof" is the 7th floor...
Lone
The Rowlands saw the westend-window shooter prior to the shooting,
Brennan SAW that man shooting, Euins and Worell saw the rifle of that
shooter, and Yarman, Norman and Williams heart the him shooting!
This man was shooting twice...
(And I believe that man was in the 7th floor window, because only the
windows of that floor ar long enough, that a a man could stand up and
shoot out of them...the man in the OSSI window holding a "pipe" was
crouching...
Walt
> > sixth floor on the far corner,>
> > sixth floor on the far corner, on the east side."
>
> > Hey Von Pea Brain....If you're standing on the south side of a
> > building near the SE corner of that building, WHERE will the "FAR
> > CORNER" be??
>
> > James Worrell confirmed Howard Brennan's observation.... The gunman
> > was aiming the rifle out of the corner window at the WEST end of the
> > TSBD..
>
> Read it again, Walt. Worrell specifically said "the east side." He
> even marked the window with an "X" (see CE 360 below).
in the same way that Howard Brennan... DESCRIBED....the window where
he'd seen the man aiming the hunting rifle. James
Worrel ...DESCRIBED...where he saw the muzzle of a rifle, and he
DESCRIBED that location as....."either in the fifth or the sixth floor
on the far corner," We know that he was standing with his back
nearly touching the south wall of the TSBD at the SE corner of the
TSBD. Since the alleged murder weapon ( the MC) is only 40 inches
long and Oswald allegedly sat back from the window about three feet
( 36inches) and the wall and ledge of the TSBD is about 20 inches
thick ....Oswald would have had to have had a rifle that was about 5
feet (60 inches) long to allow Worrell to see about 4 inches of the
barrel sticking out past the wall of the TSBD if he had seen the gun
barrel in that so called "Sniper's Nest" window.
Worrell could not have looked DIRECTLY over his head up to that sixth
floor window and seen 4 inches of a 40 inch long rifle, if it was
being fired by a man who was seated about three feet back from the
window.
Worrell would not have looked DIRECTLY OVER HIS head up to a sixth
floor window as DESCRIBED it as being "AT THE FAR END" of the
building.
Worrell's statement appers to show that he was confused about which
direction the TSBD faced. He thought that the building faced east
and that's the reason he said .... "I told the FBI it was either in
the fifth or the sixth floor on the far corner, on the east side."
When the FACTS are known it's very wasy to understand that Worrell
COULD have seen about 4 inches of a rifle barrel of a rifle that was
being held by a gunman who was...Quote.. "STANDING AND BRACING THE
RIFLE AGAINST THE SIDE OF THE WINDOW "....unquote (Howard Brennan)...
sticking out past the WIDE OPEN window "AT THE FAR CORNER" of the
sixth floor. But he could NOT have seen 4 inches of a 40 inch long
rifle sticking out past the building DIRECTLY over his head.
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> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol...
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> I hope this clears up the matter for you, Walt.
>
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> > > ARLEN SPECTER -- "Now looking at the picture which we have identified
> > > as Commission Exhibit No. 360, which is where you have drawn an "X,"
> > > can you indicate the line of vision which you followed to the point
> > > where the rifle was to the best of your ability to recollect?"
>
> > > CE360 (marked by James Worrell):http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0...
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> > > >>> "Do you know the condition of the the 7th floor during the shooting?" <<<
>
> > > Who cares? The seventh floor played no part whatsoever in the
> > > assassination of John F. Kennedy. A super-silly kook named "Lone" is
> > > probably the only person on the planet who believes otherwise.
>
> > > >>> "I would say, the seventh floor was ideal for a shooter." <<<
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> > > And I would say this --
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> > > The insane rantings of a conspiracy kook named "Lone" couldn't
> > > possibly matter less.
>
> > > >>> "Nobody up there, just him, and the possibility to stand up and shoot. I believe the 7th floor was a so called "safe floor", (like there are CIA-safe-houses). One of the greatest victory's of the ongoing US-it was ossi-PR-campaign is, to put away the attention of all serious JFK-researchers from that 7th floor! Which, I believe was a "safe-floor". That all starts by misleading eyewitness like Brennan, Euins and Worrell by guys like Arlen Specter...The name 6th floor museum itself is a big hoax! Mack has to go one floor upwards." <<<
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> > > You're ready for a rubber room, "Lone".
>
> > > Somebody fetch Nurse Ratched (again)!
>
> > > (Seems like Ratched is constantly being called to this asylum. And
> > > she's definitely needed this morning to place a net around Mr.
> > > "Lone".)
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Is this the best you can do?..... Silly question...of course it
is...because it is impossible to TRUTHFULLY deny the FACTS, so you're
forced to fall back on ad hominem attacks.
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The only loons I know are you poor victims of this ongoing, never
ending IT WAS OSSI PR-CAMPAIGN...you idiots can't tell a PR- CAMPAIGN
(it started with the Warren-Uncles, and went on with the Rockefeller-
Commission, the Schweiker- Investigation and the HSCA...) from a
serious investigation... you LNters are the flies, caught in the net
woven by spiders much bigger than you...I watch at you like I watch to
the kids which believe in Santa Claus and the Ester bunny...
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> Commission, the Schweiker- Investigation and the HSCA...) from a
> serious investigation... you LNters are the flies, caught in the net
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You've got em pegged, Lone.... They probably have never caught on
that LN....stands for "looney " and "naive".
dcwi...@yahoo.com
Basic premise is wrong. Brennan ID'd the floors by number, &
correctly. Note during Williams' testimony the quote from Brennan re
seeing him, Williams, on the *fifth* floor.