JFK Embalmer Thomas Robinson Destroys Warren Report
lazu...@webtv.net
of the head filled with plaster of paris and rubber patch"
"And wound 5-6 inches below the shoulder". On the JFK Murder Solved
Site. He said relatively the same thing to Harry Livingstone in High
Treason 2.
Ben Holmes
says...
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Well, he was just an eyewitness... he probably didn't get more than a few hours
looking at JFK's head, so you really can't trust what he said. He was certainly
hallucinating the same thing that over 40 other eyewitnesses were
hallucinating... just read the Warren Report, and you'll know the facts.
You don't have to dig into the evidence... the Warren Report did all this for
you.
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> In article <487-4A831C35-3...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>, lazuli...@webtv.net
> says...
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> >All you need is the 2 things he said" a large gaping wound in the back
> >of the head filled with plaster of paris and rubber patch"
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> >"And wound 5-6 inches below the shoulder". On the JFK Murder Solved
> >Site. He said relatively the same thing to Harry Livingstone in High
> >Treason 2.
>
> <moron alert>
>
> <satire on>
> Well, he was just an eyewitness... he probably didn't get more than a few hours
> looking at JFK's head, so you really can't trust what he said. He was certainly
> hallucinating the same thing that over 40 other eyewitnesses were
> hallucinating... just read the Warren Report, and you'll know the facts.
>
> You don't have to dig into the evidence... the Warren Report did all this for
> you.
> <satire off>
>
> <moron alert />
of course you're liar, as well as being me -- but I, not you :)
aeffects
great post Laz.... love it when nutter-trolls cringe!
ShutterBun
Why does the JFK Murder Solved site conclude with the phrase:
"How could the Assassination Records Review Board not subpoena Thomas
Evan Robinson and hear this crucial evidence that proves, beyond any
reasonable doubt, that the murder of John F. Kennedy was a
conspiracy?"
Is he unaware that the ARRB *did* interview Robinson on June 21, 1996,
and included their notes from the interview in their medical report?
Is he further aware that much of it (as well as Robinson's previous
interview with the HSCA) tends to contradict the investigator's notes
from the phone call?
David Von Pein
RE: Thomas E. Robinson.....
"Tom Robinson, one of the four embalmers for Gawler’s Funeral
Home, described (in a rather vague 1977 interview) an orange-sized
hole “directly behind the back of his head” between the ears
(identified by Robinson as an ENTRY wound in a 1996 interview), and a
quarter-inch bullet hole in the right temple (identified by Robinson
as an EXIT wound in 1996) (HSCA Record 180-10089-10180, Interview of
Thomas Evan Robinson, January 12, 1977, pp.1–3; also ARRB MD 63; ARRB
MD 180, Meeting Report, Interview of Thomas E. Robinson, June 18,
1996, p.2).
"Robinson also claimed that a federal agent showed him a glass
vial, similar to a test tube, containing about ten tiny bullet
fragments removed from the president’s brain (only two were removed)
(ARRB MD 180, Meeting Report, Interview of Thomas E. Robinson, June
18, 1996, pp.1–2)." -- Vincent Bugliosi; Page 249 of Endnotes in
"Reclaiming History" (c.2007)
MD63 (ARRB):
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md63/html/Image00.htm
MD180 (Page 3)(ARRB):
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md180/html/md180_0003a.htm
lazu...@webtv.net
conspiracy witnesses. You know how the lone nutters say" well the
Parkland Doctors were trying to save JFK's like, so they didn't really
observe closely the wounds" or something like that, yeah that might be
true of a few individuals, but not collectively when their observations
are corroborated.
What can they possibly say about Mortician Tom Robinson- though he was
directly working on JFK's body , specifically the head for an extended
period of time some 3 plus hours total...and that when he applied the
plaster of paris and rubber patch in the rear cranium area, that somehow
he didn't really do this, or was mistaken? Is that believable....Laz
ShutterBun
You really haven't read anything we've said, have you? Doesn't WebTV
have a PDF reader available yet?
curtjester1
What's to read? He said things that were not conducive from a shot
coming from high up and behind. He said he got opinions from the
folks there. It stands to reason that if you have a hole the size of
an orange in the back between the ears and a small hole much higher
up, that the chances are that the entry would is a smaller wound and
an exit the bigger. That's just the way most bullets do their thing.
What's also obvious that if they're putting 10 fragments into a vial,
it's not a full metal jacketed bullet which would be used by an MC.
It wouldn't have fragmented like that. Also, I like this little bit
about a fragment causing the small hole. Why on earth would the
little fragment cause so much visualization at that spot in the Z
film, while their big size orange hole in the back bottom ("by the
ears") not show anything on the film? Either the shot didn't happen
the way they said, or the film was altered. It's just that simple.
CJ
ShutterBun
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Or this clown's memory is pretty crummy?
Ben Holmes
ShutterBun says...
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>On Aug 13, 7:53=A0am, curtjester1 <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 13, 6:24=A0am, ShutterBun <shutter...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > On Aug 13, 12:00=A0am, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:
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>> > > Thanx guys-Robinson is one of the best and least well known of the
>> > > conspiracy witnesses. You know how the lone nutters say" well the
>y
>> > > observe closely the wounds" or something like that, yeah that might b=
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>> > > true of a few individuals, but not collectively when their observatio=
>ns
>> > > are corroborated.
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>> > > What can they possibly say about Mortician Tom Robinson- though he wa=
>s
>> > > directly working on JFK's body , specifically the head for an extende=
>d
>> > > period of time some 3 plus hours total...and that when he applied the
>how
>> > > he didn't really do this, or was mistaken? Is that believable....Laz
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>> > have a PDF reader available yet?
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>> coming from high up and behind. =A0He said he got opinions from the
>> folks there. =A0It stands to reason that if you have a hole the size of
>> an orange in the back between the ears and a small hole much higher
>> up, that the chances are that the entry would is a smaller wound and
>> What's also obvious that if they're putting 10 fragments into a vial,
>> it's not a full metal jacketed bullet which would be used by an MC.
>> about a fragment causing the small hole. =A0Why on earth would the
>> little fragment cause so much visualization at that spot in the Z
>> film, while their big size orange hole in the back bottom ("by the
>> the way they said, or the film was altered. =A0It's just that simple.
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>Or this clown's memory is pretty crummy?
Let's presume it is, and go with the earliest testimony...
For that matter, let's go with the Autopsy Report...
But you can't, can you?
bigdog
Right. That's why courts summon embalmers and not forensic
pathologists to present the medical evidence in a murder case.
lazu...@webtv.net
contradicts what he told Joe West?
ShutterBun
> Hey shutterbun- what specifically, does Robinson say to the HSCA that
> contradicts what he told Joe West?
Well, he told the ARRB (since I still have that open) that the skull
was NOT packed with plaster of paris, but rather cotton or kapok.
Incidentally, he was pretty clear to the ARRB that the wound in the
temple was a "blow out" wound, while the back was an "entrance
wound" (possibly enlarged by sawing the skull? kinda hard to tell
what he's getting at)
While not "contradictory" per se, Robinson makes it clear to the HSCA
that he is "hazy" about the back wound. There's no reason to suspect
his memory would have improved by 1992. In his HSCA interview, he
mentions probing "the base of the head." So, take that for what it's
worth. West has him now pinpointing the back wound? Me no think so.
Also, he makes it clear that he did NOT do the primary work on the
head wound.
And he appears to indicate that the "large opening" in the back of the
head was deliberatly sawed by the autopsists, to allow for the removal
of the brain. (sorry, but the guy's testimony makes Jack Ruby seem
lucid and concise)
lazu...@webtv.net
between the ears. I just looked it up.
ShutterBun
> Robinson does say to the HSCA the wound was in the rear of the head
> between the ears. I just looked it up.
Hey, congrats on getting the PDF reader installed on your WebTV box.
Did you notice the part where he attributes the opening in the back of
the skull to the fact that "they (the autopsists) had enlarged" it?
(first page of his interview)
Good luck making sense of the rest of it. But suffice to say, this is
not a "Warren Commission destruction" by any stretch of the
imagination. Moreover, it's a bunch of BS that our friend over at
JFKmurdersolved still thinks the HSCA and ARRB didn't even talk to the
guy, which they plainly did.
aeffects
sniff-sniff Chuckles 'Kevin Schuyler' has resurrected, welcome home
troll!
David Von Pein
One has to wonder why such an important witness such as Thomas
Robinson (who saw all kinds of proof of a conspiracy, according to the
CTers of the world) wasn't rubbed out by the Death Squad after the
assassination?
How did this guy escape the Mystery Death Team that kooks think was
rubbing out "CT" witnesses for years after 1963? Just an oversight I
guess.
And, of course, the kooks will totally ignore the fact that Robinson
described the BOH wound as an ENTRANCE wound and the right-frontal
wound as an EXIT wound.
ShutterBun
Way to contribute. Be proud.
curtjester1
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It wouldn't matter, or even if he were even threatened by then, 30+
years later. There is nothing one has to deduce from Robinson other
than what he observed. The general size of the blowout in the back of
the head isn't going to change vs. the tiny hole in front, nor is the
fact that many pieces of fragments were taken and put into a vial. He
doesn't have to be an expert on direction or opinion to have the facts
remain that is looks terrible for a LNT'er point of view, and
extremely nice for a CT'er point of view.
CJ