Frazier's Little Gem on the Bullet Fragments - alt.conspiracy.jfk

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From: "David VP" <davevonp...@aol.com>

Date: 14 Aug 2006 10:50:43 -0700

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Subject: Re: Frazier's Little Gem on the Bullet Fragments

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>>> "There's no proof that any of the fragments found in the limo were involved in the headshot." <<<

True. I can't deny this. But a little thing called "common sense" tells
any reasonable person that the two large front-seat fragments (and the
smaller fragments under Nellie's jump seat as well) probably came from
the fragmented bullet that hit JFK in the head.

This common-sense conclusion, of course, being based on the very, very,
very likely scenario that two and only two bullets struck any victim in
that car on 11/22.

And since CE399 is most-certainly linkable to Oswald's rifle, which was
located in the TSBD when JFK happened to drive by that building -- we
can know that that bullet was carried into Parkland via John Connally
(since Kennedy's stretcher was never in the area of the hospital where
Tomlinson found this bullet). And "planting" that bullet prior to 2 PM
CST on 11/22 is totally ludicrous from every POV, even a
Frame-The-Patsy one...and everybody should know why (but the kooks
pretend they don't).

And since only two bullets hit any victims, and since (obviously) CE399
is one of these two bullets; and since CE399 could clearly not have
produced those limo fragments....then it becomes clear that either a
"missed" shot produced the limo fragments or the head shot produced
them.

The "missed shot" theory is pretty far-fetched, due to the fact that a
full-velocity hit to that chrome strip or the windshield would have
almost certainly resulted in the bullet completely penetrating either
the chrome or the window glass...which did not happen. (Per Bob
Frazier's WC testimony; I suppose he's one of the evil cover-up
"agents" too, right?)

The Tague wounding tends to rule out the "missed shot hit the chrome"
theory as well (IMO anyway).

>>> "1. A missed shot which struck the chrome trimming above the windshield leaving an oval shaped dent." <<<

Couldn't have happened (as described above). A shot at full velocity
would not have left merely a dent in the chrome.

>>> "2. A shot which struck JBC in the wrist first and then hit the chrome." <<<

Extremely unlikely (esp. if you're purporting that a FULL-VELOCITY shot
hit JBC's wrist without going through either JBC or JFK first). Because
that scenario would have done more damage to Connally's wrist than was
done. That's in the WR too. But, naturally, it has to be disregarded,
because of the kooks' aversion to anything within it.

>>> "3. They are plants to tie the shooting to the MC." <<<

Which means that some plotter had to fire a bullet from Oswald's rifle
into something (?) to fragment the bullet pretty badly, and then place
these fragments into the limo before Robert Frazier's detailed
examination of the car late on the night of 11/22.

Impossible?? Well, I suppose not. Esp. if you reside in CT-ville, where
EVERY piece of Oswald-incriminating evidence is questioned. But is
there ANY hard evidence to back up the notion that these fragments were
"planted"?

Answer -- No. Of course not.

But just the accusation is enough to make it a viable alternate
solution for certain CT-Kooks. I'd love to see Vince B. dive into such
unsupportable theories. He'd be in 7th heaven!

>>> "The three small fragments found under Nellie's jumpseat could hardly have come fom the headshot. They were found UNDERNEATH where JBC had been slouched." <<<

But who's to say that's where these tiny fragments STARTED OUT. They
could have easily been kicked inadverently under the jump seat. The car
wasn't frozen in time just after the head shot. The fragments could
have easily moved from where they first hit.

Reasonably-speaking, I see no reason to think head-shot fragments
couldn't have ended up almost anywhere inside the limo, given the fact
that blood and brain tissue was, in fact, all over the inside and
outside of the vehicle.

>>> "The upshot is that none of these limo fragments can be tied ballistically to the same bullet." <<<

And, naturally, per the stringent CT-Kook rule, which reads as follows
--- "Every Single Thing Must Be Proven To A Kook's Satisfaction Or Else
Something 'Conspiratorial' Has To Be Believed" --- if the bullet
fragments in the car can't positively be tied to just one single
bullet, this MUST mean that multiple bullets caused these fragments.
(Even though the two largest portions came positively from Oswald's
gun.)

Kook Logic. That explains the CT mindset the best I think.

The very same type of CT-leaning logic exists, of course, in the Tippit
case (per many CTers) -- i.e., the bullets taken from Tippit couldn't
be tied to Oswald's revolver "to the exclusion" (except via Mr.
Nichols' analysis, however, re. 1 of the bullets), therefore this opens
the CT floodgates for all kinds of other weapons (and gunmen) to be
involved in the Tippit murder.

The kook will ignore the 99 things that say "Oswald Killed Tippit", in
order to cling to the impossible idea that another gunman (or gunmen)
killed the officer.

Also -- It's very, very likely (per NAA analysis) that the two larger
limo fragments were from the same bullet. And even without the NAA
analysis, just ordinary common sense tells us that those two front-seat
fragments are from the same bullet --- one portion was a nose portion
of a WCC/MC bullet that positively came from the barrel of Oswald's
C2766 rifle; the other was the base of a WCC/MC bullet that positively
came from the barrel of that very same gun (Oswald's C2766 MC rifle).

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