I Hope Mr. Tatro Got Plenty Of Cheese With His W(h)ine....
David Von Pein
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ED TATRO SAID:
>>> "It's difficult to share any meaningful postions on a street corner, one inundated by youngsters unwilling to hear any viewpoint contrary to Vince Bugliosi's. One 20-something said, "No one said any shots came from the grassy knoll that day" to another Bugliosi supporter. I snapped, "What are you talking about? Sixty-four witnesses said shots came from the grassy knoll." He said, "Not that day!" Of course, as this clown was defending his comment, I could still picture the video of Bill Newman telling a Dallas television crew (THAT DAY) that the shot had been fired from the grassy knoll." <<<
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DVP SAYS:
Of course it never once occurs to Mr. Tatro to ask a very simple
question concerning virtually ALL of those "64 Grassy Knoll" witnesses
-- i.e., WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THEY NEVER HEARD EVEN **ONE** SINGLE SHOT
FROM THE TSBD?
Bill Newman said that he heard ALL THE SHOTS coming from the "little
mound of ground" there on the Knoll. Which means what exactly?
I'll tell you what it means...it means William Newman (and all of the
other 50+ witnesses who said that EVERY SHOT came from the Knoll area)
are wrong! Simple as that. They HAVE to be wrong....or else buy into
the notion that NO SHOTS came from the TSBD...which would make even a
larger pct. of earwitnesses WRONG re. all the shots those "TSBD Only"
people
heard.
The answer to this is so obvious that it's almost embarrassing to have
to say it.....Those Grassy Knoll witnesses (by the very fact they did
not hear different sounds/shots coming from multiple places) heard
only Lee Harvey Oswald's shots from the Depository, and the acoustical
environment in Dealey Plaza was playing tricks on them.
There is no other logical explanation for 55 to 60 people (or however
many witnesses the various conspiracists wish to place in the "ONLY
HEARD KNOLL SHOTS" category, which we know is dead-wrong, because even
CTers admit to a few audible rear/TSBD shots) to say they heard only
shots from the front, when we know that's impossible in this case.
I had several lively, sarcastic-filled discussions online with Mr.
Tatro a few weeks ago at a place on the Internet called "Olney Daily
Mail"....but when the site demanded cash to continue to post, I packed
up the LN gear and said bye...but my main points were made well before
the money machine stepped in to silence us cheapskates. ;)
Naturally, Mr. Tatro just ignored/skewed/sidestepped everything I
argued, like he's doing with V. Bugliosi in his above batch of
nonsense.
And Tatro, in my discussions with him too, was harping on the
"windshield" and John Hunt's brilliance and how JBC's clothing was a
possible key to the case in some way (I can't see how at all, of
course, since even most CTers agree that Connally was shot with just
one bullet from behind; so where's the beef there? Beats me; but it's
a CT fighting point since Nellie washed John's shirt--*gasp!*)
I've looked at Mr. Hunt's work re. Bob Frazier, and it's totally
unconvincing IMO. For one thing, the photos of 399 he provides prove
nothing. I can't even see the initials of Frazier and Killion! So
Elmer Todd's scratch marks could be on there somewhere. No way to tell
from those pictures.
And the "timing" mix-up re. Frazier getting CE399 at "7:30" vs. around
9 PM on 11/22/63 is just silly too. Because if Frazier is the little
"creep" (as Tatro said Hunt called Frazier; although I missed that
invective in Mr. Hunt's expansive essays on him), WHY on Earth didn't
Frazier make an effort to simply change his "7:30" time to match the
time of Todd?
Did Frazier WANT to be called a plotter after the fact?! It makes no
sense. It was simply a mix-up in the times, which couldn't BE more
common in almost any criminal case; or in ANYTHING in life, for that
matter. Such "time" discrepancies probably happened a dozen times in
the JFK/Tippit case alone, in fact.
Sorry, Ed T.; I'm going with Vince. (Until you can produce a few of
those non-LHO bullets anyway.)
DVP
eca...@tx.rr.com
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/th...
Good post David and thanks for specifying "Ed T."
MR ;~D
Kenneth A. Rahn
I have a couple of ancient writings by Ed Tatro on the NAA. (Ancient
means '60s or '70s). He didn't make any more sense then than he does now.
Ken Rahn
"David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/thread/37f6689231155f15/?hl=en#
>
> ED TATRO SAID:
>
>
>>>> "It's difficult to share any meaningful postions on a street corner,
>>>> one inundated by youngsters unwilling to hear any viewpoint contrary to
>>>> Vince Bugliosi's. One 20-something said, "No one said any shots came
>>>> from the grassy knoll that day" to another Bugliosi supporter. I
>>>> snapped, "What are you talking about? Sixty-four witnesses said shots
>>>> came from the grassy knoll." He said, "Not that day!" Of course, as
>>>> this clown was defending his comment, I could still picture the video
>>>> of Bill Newman telling a Dallas television crew (THAT DAY) that the
>>>> shot had been fired from the grassy knoll." <<<
>
> =========================
>
> DVP SAYS:
>
> Of course it never once occurs to Mr. Tatro to ask a very simple
> question concerning virtually ALL of those "64 Grassy Knoll" witnesses
> -- i.e., WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THEY NEVER HEARD EVEN **ONE** SINGLE SHOT
> FROM THE TSBD?
>
> Bill Newman said that he heard ALL THE SHOTS coming from the "little
> mound of ground" there on the Knoll. Which means what exactly?
>
> I'll tell you what it means...it means William Newman (and all of the
> other 50+ witnesses who said that EVERY SHOT came from the Knoll area)
> are wrong! Simple as that. They HAVE to be wrong....or else buy into
> the notion that NO SHOTS came from the TSBD...which would make even a
> larger pct. of earwitnesses WRONG re. all the shots those people
> heard.
>
> The answer to this is so obvious that it's almost embarrassing to have
> to say it.....Those Grassy Knoll witnesses (by the very fact they did
> not hear different sounds/shots coming from multiple places) heard
> only Lee Harvey Oswald's shots from the Depository, and the acoustical
> environment in Dealey Plaza was playing tricks on them.
>
> There is no other logical explanation for 55 to 60 people (or however
> many witnesses the various conspiracists wish to place in the "ONLY
> HEARD KNOLL SHOTS" category, which we know is dead-wrong, because even
> CTers admit to a few audible rear/TSBD shots) to say they heard only
> shots from the front, when we know that's impossible in this case.
>
> I had several lively, sarcastic-filled discussions online with Mr.
> Tatro a few weeks ago at a place on the Internet called "Olney Daily
> Mail"....but when the site demanding cash to continuing to post, I