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The Strange Case of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker


General Edwin A. Walker is known to most JFK assassination buffs as the man
whom Oswald allegedly shot at in April 1963.
The general's right-wing connections are often noted, as is the fact that he
was forced out of his command by the Kennedy administration for his political
indoctrination of his troops. His activities during the race riots in Oxford,
Mississippi in 1962 are also often mentioned, when he was arrested on four
federal charges including insurrection.

His public statement at Oxford was as follows:

This is Edwin A. Walker. I am in Mississippi beside Gov. Ross Barnett. I
call for a national protest against the conspiracy from within. Rally to the
cause of freedom in righteous indignation, violent vocal protest and bitter
silence under the flag of Mississippi at the use of Federal troops.

This today is a disgrace to the nation in 'dire peril,' a disgrace beyond
the capacity of anyone except its enemies.
This is the conspiracy of the crucifixion by anti-Christ conspirators of
the Supreme Court in their denial of prayer
and their betrayal of a nation.

[source NYT, 9/30/62]

The Army ordered General Walker to undergo psychiatric testing.

The general's case is strange indeed. But another fact, not often mentioned,
makes his activities in 1961-3 even stranger. Going back to 1957, we find him
in charge of *enforcing* the desegregation order in Little Rock, Arkansas. His
public statements on the matter were limited to exhorting the public to uphold
the will of the courts and desegregate peacefully.
The following article details his biography up to that time.

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New York Times, September 25, 1957, page 18

HE GUARDS THE PEACE
Edwin Anderson Walker

LITTLE ROCK, Sept. 24 -- Maj. Gen. Edwin Anderson Walker, who will be
responsible for maintaining peace in Little Rock, was described by staff
officers today as "tough, but fair." A tall, lean-visaged Texan, General Walker
came to Little Rock only seven weeks ago as commander of the Arkansas Military
District. He is still a stranger to the city.
Today, General Walker was at his desk in a downtown office building at 7 A.M.
He had not yet received formal orders to take over the Arkansas National Guard,
but he knew what was coming. Already orders carrying his signature were being
processed for the deployment of National Guard units. He will command a
combined force of regulars and Federalized Guardsmen.

He stands 6 feet 3 inches in height. He is a bachelor and has been considered a
prize for hostesses wherever he has been stationed. He was born in Center
Point, Texas, on Nov. 10, 1909.

General Walker's favorite expression is "check," a word he snaps to indicate a
mission has been accomplished or that he understands his orders.

As a member of the Special Services group, he was required to be a paratrooper.
At his test, he approached a subordinate and asked:

"How do you put this thing on?"

He received a fast five-minute briefing and climbed into an airplane.
He jumped, landed safe and snapped to the test officer: "Check."

General Walker is a combat officer. He has seen action in World War II and in
Korea. He has carried out a number of unusual and hazardous assignments,
particularly during World War II.

He started his military career as an artillery officer after he graduated from
West Point in 1931. But he switched to commando operations during the war and
led a special force of Canadians and Americans, in Italy and in France.

This outfit, trained for airborne, amphibious, mountain and ski operations, was
called the Special Services Force.

General Walker led the Third Regiment, First Special Service Force, in its
initial operation at Kiska during the Aleutians campaign. When the commandos
were transferred to the Italian campaign, General Walker led the first Special
Service Force in tough mountain fighting up the Italian peninsula and at Anzio
beachhead.

A Surprise Landing

In August, 1944, his men made a surprise landing on the Hyeres Islands off the
French Riviera and killed or captured a strong German garrison that could have
jeopardized the Seventh Army landings on the mainland near by.

With the Hyeres occupied, his troops rejoined the main invasion force and moved
up the Rhone Valley. Toward the end of the war he was detached from the
commandos and placed in command of the 417 Infantry Regiment, a separate force
attached to the Third Army. At V-E Day he was commanding a special task unit in
Oslo.

Returning to the United States in January, 1946, General Walker served as
assistant director of the combined arms department, Field Artillery School,
Fort Sill, Okla. He was in charge of the Greek desk at the Pentagon during the
Greek civil war and made an official visit to Greece and Turkey.

During the Korean War, General Walker commanded the Seventh Regiment of the
Third Infantry Division and later was senior adviser to Generalissimo Chiang
Kai-shek. His last assignment before coming to Little Rock was as commanding
general at the Twenty-fifth Artillery division in Hawaii.

He holds the Silver Star and the Bronze Star with oak leaf cluster.

This is the man arrested on four federal charges in Mississippi in 1962?

Those charges were:

Section 111-- For assault and resisting or otherwise opposing Federal
officers, including marshals, in the performance of their duty.

Section 372-- For conspiracy to prevent a Federal officer from
discharging his duties.

Section 2383-- For inciting or engaging in an insurrection against the
United States.

Section 2384-- For conspiracy to overthrow or oppose by force the
execution of the laws of the United States.


A conspiracy is defined legally as including two or more persons.

On October 7, 1962, Walker posted $50,000 bond and returned home to Dallas amid
200 cheering supporters carrying signs like "Welcome Home, General Walker,"
"Win With General Walker," and "President '64."

On January 21, 1963, a federal grand jury in Oxford, Mississippi adjourned
without indicting Walker on any of the four counts against him.

The Justice Department dismissed the charges "without prejudice" after the
grand jury failed to indict. The dismissal "without prejudice" meant that the
charges could be reinstated before the five year statute of limitations
expired.

Walker and his supporters then went on the offensive. On April 2, 1963, a group
called the Citizens Congressional Committee filed a petition with the Senate
Judiciary Committee requesting an investigation of the treatment of "America's
fearless patriot on the occasion of his incarceration at the instigation of the
Department of Justice."

Eight days later, on April 10, Walker was sitting at his desk at home when the
famous shooting incident occurred.

Meanwhile, the American Medical Association was receiving "a volume of letters
from individual physicians" charging Dr. Charles E. Smith, the Army
psychiatrist -- who commented on Walker's mental state at the time of the
Oxford violence -- with unethical conduct: that he made an improper diagnosis
without a personal examination. Dr. Smith was cleared by the
AMA on July 4, 1963. He said that news stories of Walker's "reported behavior
reflects sensitivity and essentially unpredictable and seemingly bizarre
outbursts of the type often observed in individuals suffering with paranoid
mental disorder." The society had received 2,500 letters from physicians
alleging unethical conduct by Dr. Smith. Nevertheless,
the board unanimously ruled in Smith's favor.

Walker then took his case to court, filing a total of $23 million dollars in
libel damages against numerous media outlets alleging that they had made "false
statements" and that their "suppression of truth was motivated by malice and a
desire to hurt and harm him in his good reputation and blacken his good name."
The statements in question were that he "led a charge of students against
Federal marshals on the Ole Miss campus" and various other statements
attributing to him a very active role in leading the insurrection such as
"Walker assumed command of the crowd." A jury in Fort Worth awarded an $800,000
judgment against the Associated Press, ruling that malice was intended.

The offensive was also being taken up by Republicans in Congress in an alliance
with Southern Democrats, who wanted to embarrass Attorney General Robert
Kennedy because of his civils rights activities. The House Judiciary Committee
voted on September 1, 1964 by a margin of 18 to 14 to open an investigation of
the Justice Department's handling of cases including, but not limited to, those
of Jimmy Hoffa, Roy M. Cohn, and former Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker. The vote
among Republican and Southern Democratic committee members was 16-2; that of
non-Southern Democrats was 2-12.

Meanwhile, a Louisiana jury awarded Walker $3 million in damages in another one
of his libel suits.

His luck started to turn sour however, and finally on June 12, 1967, the
Supreme Court ruled 9-0 extending the constitutional protection of freedom of
the press to libelous falsehoods about private individuals who willingly take
part in public affairs. Such protections were already in place concerning libel
against political officials, but this was a landmark case extending the
applicability to private individuals who willingly venture into the public
arena.
Walker's awards were overturned.

Chief Justice Warren explained, "Our citizenry has a legitimate and substantial
interest in the conduct of such persons... Freedom of the press to engage in
uninhibited debate about their involvement in public issues should be subject
to derogatory criticism, even when based on false statements."

Walker's name occasionally surfaced in the press after this, usually in
connection with anti-UN activities or in connection with the presidential
campaign of George Wallace.

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APPENDIX

These articles concern the controversy about right-wing extremism in the
military in the early Sixties, specifically related to General Walker and the
Kennedy administration.

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New York Times, June 18, 1961, page 1

Right-Wing Officers Worrying Pentagon

by Cabell Philips

WASHINGTON, June 17 -- The Pentagon is having its troubles with right-wingers
in uniform.

A number of officers of high and middle rank are indoctrinating their commands
and the civilian population near their bases with political theories resembling
those of the John Birch Society. They are also holding up to criticism and
ridicule some official policies of the United States Government.

The most conspicuous example of some of these officers was Maj. Gen. Edwin A.
Walker, who was officially "admonished" for his activities by the Secretary of
the Army earlier this week.

General Walker's offense was in saying that a number of prominent Americans, as
well as elements of the newspaper and television industries, were tainted with
Communist ideology.

He did this in the course of a continuing effort that the general said was
"designed to develop an understanding of the American military and civil
heritage, responsibility toward that heritage and the facts and objectives of
those enemies who would destroy it."

General Walker was the commander of the Twenty-Fourth Infantry Division in
Germany at the time...

The problem for the Pentagon arises out of the fact that a number of its higher
ranking officers have participated in or publically lent their support to a
variety of so-called forums, schools, and seminars, ostensibly focused on the
issues of national security. However, many of those groups -- at least
incidentally -- are preoccupied with radically right-wing political
philosophies.

Stress on Anti-Communism

The chief ingredient of these philosophies is often a militant anti-communism.
The argument is that Communist subversion today is rife among the schools, the
churches, labor unions, Government offices, and elsewhere.

In this argument, liberalism is equated with socialism and socialism with
communism. Thus it opposes most welfare legislation, many programs for
international cooperation such as foreign aid and disarmament conferences...

The genesis of this program goes back to the so-called "cold war policy"
evolved by the National Security Council in the summer of 1958...

Cold War Widened

President Eisenhower and his top policy leaders decreed that the "cold war"
could not be fought as a series of separate and often unrelated actions, as
with foreign aid and propaganda. Rather, it must be fought with a concentration
of all the resources of the Government and with the full understanding and
support of the civilian population. It was decided, in particular, that the
military should be used to reinforce the "cold war" effort.

This was the substance of the still-classified "cold-war policy" paper of the
National Security Council...

Of the hundreds of military bases here and abroad, only a score have become
involved in these programs to the point that they have caused alarm among the
new civilian team in the Pentagon. Officials suspect, however, that the trend
is somewhat more widespread than their reports currently indicate. They are
quietly trying to find out how widespread it is.

A typical example about which they do know is a seminar labeled Project Action.

This was held at the Naval Air Station, Wold-Chamberlain Field, Minneapolis, on
April 28 and 29 of this year. Capt. Robert T. Kieling is the commanding officer
of the station. He was a co-sponsor of the program in collaboration with a
committee of the Minneapolis-St. Paul Chamber of Commerce.

The official announcement described the program as follows:

"The purpose of Project Action is to inspire the citizens of this area to take
an active part in the war against the danger that threatens our freedom and
American way of life."

"The program of talks and presentations by nationally-known leaders for the
cause of democracy will bring to light facts and figures concerning the rising
crime rate, juvenile delinquency, drug addiction, the general degradation of
morals, the complacent attitude toward patriotism, and the tremendous gains the
Communist conspiracy is making in this country..."

The United States Naval Air Station is making facilities available for the
seminar at the request of the Twin Cities Council for American Ideals...

Among the scores of letters concerning Project Action that reached the Pentagon
in the following days was one from a newspaper editor. It said in part:

"Perhaps someone can clear up for us our lack of understanding as to just how
co-sponsorship of such activities fits in with the Navy mission, or the overall
military mission, for that matter. It must be admitted that the local Project
Action is politically partisan in a very real sense, although the partisanship
is not that of the party label type." ...

Among numerous other incidents that have been brought to the attention of the
Defense Department is the "Fourth Dimensional Warfare Seminar" held in
Pittsburgh on April 15. Among those listed as giving "assistance and support"
to the program were Lieut. Gen. Ridgely Gaither, Commanding General, Second
Army, and Maj. Gen. Ralph C. Cooper, Commanding General
of the Twenty-First Army Corps, and their respective staffs...

"This sort of thing, if carried far enough among susceptible people, can breed
a wave of vigilantism and witch-hunting," one Pentagon official said. "Even Mr.
Hoover of the F.B.I., whom nobody would call 'soft on communism,' deplores
these self-appointed counter-spies." ...

Reinforcing his point, he took from his desk a memorandum from Secretary of
Defense Robert S. McNamara, which has been circulated as "guidance" throughout
the services. In part, it said:

"After the President has taken a position, has established a policy, or after
appropriate officials in the Defense Department have established a policy, I
expect that no member of the department, either civilian or military, will
discuss that policy other than in a way to support it before the public." ...

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New York Times, September 8, 1961

McNamara Refuses to Identify Individual Censors in Pentagon

But He Gives Senators a List of Security Staff --
Thurmond Voices Criticism of Policy on Anti-Red Speeches

WASHINGTON, Sept. 7 -- Defense Secretary Robert S. McNamara refused today to
give the name of the person in the Pentagon immediately responsible for
deleting anti-Communist statements from speeches by an Army general.

He did provide a roster of the twelve-man security and review staff, which
clears speeches. But he declined to identify particular individuals in the
section who had made specific deletions.

The demand for this information was made by Senator Strom Thurmond, Democrat of
South Carolina, at the close of hearings before the Senate Armed Services
Committee on his resolution for a full investigation of
charges that military officers have been "muzzled." ...

It was also learned today that Gen. Edwin A. Walker, deposed last spring from
his command in Europe because of the nature of his troop indoctrination
program, had pleaded the military equivalent of the Fifth Amendment's guarantee
against self-incrimination during the investigation of his case by the Army
Inspector General...

The entire transcript of the proceedings involving General Walker, which runs
to more than 900 pages, is in the process of being declassified by the
Department of Defense...

Senator Thurmond's inquiry today related to a speech prepared for delivery last
March by Gen. Arthur G. Trudeau, Chief of Army Research. In testimony today it
was indicated that the excisions had the effect of softening the general's
blunt criticism of Soviet policies and tactics.

Mr. McNamara said that the justifications for the changes was that negotiations
were then going on with the Russians for release of the downed RB-47. It was
regarded as impolitic at the time, he explained, to provoke the Russians
unnecessarily...

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New York Times, November 19, 1961, page 1

KENNEDY ASSERTS FAR-RIGHT GROUPS PROVOKE DISUNITY

Attacks Birch Society and 'Minutemen' at a Party Dinner in Los Angeles

Spread of Fear Scored

President Says Real Threat Comes From Without, Not Within

by Tom Wicker

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 18-- President Kennedy spoke out tonight against the
right-wing John Birch Society and the so-called Minutemen in a speech at a
Democratic Party dinner here.

The President mentioned neither group by name but left no doubt whom he meant.

[In Atlanta, Senator Barry Goldwater, Arizona Republican, attacked the
"radicals in the White House." At a news conference, he called President
Kennedy the "wagon master" who is "riding on the left wheel all the time."]

The President, in his talk at the Hollywood Palladium, also made his first
public response to Edward M. Dealey, publisher of the Dallas Morning News. Mr.
Dealey attacked the President at a White House luncheon for "riding Caroline's
tricycle" instead of being "a man on horseback."

Some 'Escape Responsibility'

"There have always been those fringes of our society who have sought to escape
their own responsibility by finding a simple solution, an appealing slogan or a
convenient scapegoat," Mr. Kennedy said.

Now, he continued, "men who are unwilling to face up to the danger from without
are convinced that the real danger comes from within."

"They look suspiciously at their neighbors and their leaders," he declared.
"They call for a 'man on horseback' because they do not trust the people. They
find treason in our finest churches, in our highest court, and even in the
treatment of our water."

"They equate the Democratic Party with the welfare state, the welfare state
with socialism, and socialism with communism. They object quite rightly to
politics' intruding on the military -- but they are anxious for the military to
engage in politics." ...

Mr. Kennedy chose a region in which the John Birch Society has some of its
strongest support to make his third and sharpest attack on what he called
tonight "the discordant voices of extremism."

In the first two speeches, at Chapel Hill, N. C., and Seattle, he also warned
against left-wing and pacifist extremists. His remarks tonight were directed to
far-right groups and individuals.

The reference to "armed bands of civilian guerillas" appeared to be directed at
the Minutemen, individual groups of which are being organized and armed in some
parts of the country. The organization is reputed to be particularly strong in
California.

Los Angeles is regarded as almost the heartland of the Birch Society. Two
Republican Representatives from its urban districts, John H. Rousselot and
Edgar W. Hiestland, are avowed members. ...

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New York Times, November 19, 1961, page 54

RIGHTISTS PICKET KENNEDY SPEECH

3,000 Parade in Los Angeles in Orderly Demonstration

LOS ANGELES, Nov. 18-- Raucous picketing took place outside the Hollywood
Palladium where President Kennedy spoke.

For nearly an hour, 3,000 persons paraded, carrying signs and chanting and
singing their protests over a variety of issues.

The demonstration, which started rather mildly five hours before the President
spoke, was suddenly stepped up by an apparent influx of rightists.

Some of the signs carried by men and women wearing red, white, and blue paper
hats, read: "Unmuzzle the Military," "Clean Up the State Department," "Veto
Tito," "Disarmament is Suicide," and "CommUNism is Our Enemy."

The marchers sporadically chanted "Test the Bomb," and, "No Aid to Tito." They
sang, among other things, "God Bless America" and "The Battle Hymn of the
Republic."

A much smaller contingent of pacifist marchers was elbowed out. Most of these
carried signs urging the end of all atomic testing...

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New York Times, November 19, 1961, page 54

Eisenhower Travels Aloft With Kennedy

SHERMAN, Tex. Nov. 18 (AP) -- President Kennedy and former President Dwight D.
Eisenhower rode together to Perrin Air Force Base near here by helicopter today
after attending the funeral of Sam Rayburn at near-by Bonham.

Senator Carl Hayden, Democrat of Arizona, was also on the helicopter.

Mr. Kennedy and General Eisenhower stood together talking by the side of the
aircraft for about two minutes. Mr. Kennedy gestured repeatedly with his left
hand and appearing to be explaining something to General Eisenhower. General
Eisenhower listened intently and shook his head affirmatively several times.

They shook hands. Mr. Kennedy then walked briskly to his plane and General
Eisenhower got into an Air Force automobile.

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New York Times, November 24, 1961, page 1

Eisenhower Says Officers Should Stay Out of Politics

Assails Extremists In TV Interview

Former President Dwight D. Eisenhower last night urged officers of the armed
services to shun partisan politics.

Speaking as a General of the Army, he declared it was "bad practice -- very
bad" for an officer, even when testifying under oath before a committee of
Congress, to express opinions "on political matters or economic matters that
are contrary to the President's." ...

The former President was blunt in discussing the recent "rise of extremists" in
the country.

"I don't think the United States needs super-patriots," he declared. "We need
patriotism, honestly practiced by all of us, and we don't need these people
that are more patriotic than you or anybody else."

His definition of extremists embraced those who would "go back to eliminating
the income tax from our laws and the rights of people to unionize... [and
those] advocating some form of dictatorship." It also included those who "make
radical statements [and] attack people of good repute who are proved patriots."

At that point, Walter Cronkite of the C.B.S. news staff, who conducted the
interview, asked about the "military man's role in our modern political life."
He did not cite, but obviously referred to, the case of Maj. Gen. Edwin A.
Walker, who stirred up a controversy that led to his "admonishment" for the
political nature of the indoctrination of his troops. General Walker later
resigned from the Army.

"I believe the Army officer, Navy officer, Air officer," General Eisenhower
said, "should not be talking about political matters, particularly
domestically, and never in the international field, unless he is asked to do so
because of some particular position he might hold." ...

The general declared there was hope for disarmament and better East-West
relations. As the Russian standard of living improves, the Russian people will
begin to understand that there is another way of life, he said...
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"Learn to do good; Seek justice, Rebuke the oppressor, Defend the fatherless,
Plead for the widow." Isaiah 1:17 (New King James Version)

Walt

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Excellent post Gil...... There is one very important episode ommitted from
your post. That episode is the phone call that General Walker placed to the
editor of the Munich Newspaper.
A couple of days after the assassination of JFK, General Walker called the
editor of the German newspaper and told him that Oswald had tried to kill
him in the spring of 63 , when Oswald fired a shot through his window on
April 10 1963.

The telephone call was placed BEFORE Marina told the investigators about Lee
firing a bullet through General Walkers window...... The Newspaper ran the
front page story on Nov ( 28?) but it was after the story was published that
Marina revealed Lee's involvement.

I've studied the Walker shooting incident pretty throughly and I'm convinced
that Oswald fired the shot, and I'm convinced he intentionally missed
General Walker.

I'm also convinced that Walker didn't know who had fired that shot until
someone told him a couple of days after the assassination, that Oswald was
the culprit. I believe that one of Walker's buddies at the FBI told him
that they had heard a rumor ( from Mike Paine?) that Oswald was the person
who had tried to kill General Walker and they investigating that rumor.


Walker hated the Kennedy's and thought they were delivering the United
States into the hands of world wide communism.... By placing the phone call
to a newspaper Walker was attempting to capitalize on the propaganda that
Oswald was a communist.....


Walt

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Gil Jesus

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"Walt" <Papakoc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<v4vdsf1...@corp.supernews.com>...

> Excellent post Gil...... There is one very important episode ommitted from
> your post. That episode is the phone call that General Walker placed to the
> editor of the Munich Newspaper.
> A couple of days after the assassination of JFK, General Walker called the
> editor of the German newspaper and told him that Oswald had tried to kill
> him in the spring of 63 , when Oswald fired a shot through his window on
> April 10 1963.
>
> The telephone call was placed BEFORE Marina told the investigators about Lee
> firing a bullet through General Walkers window...... The Newspaper ran the
> front page story on Nov ( 28?) but it was after the story was published that
> Marina revealed Lee's involvement.
>
> I've studied the Walker shooting incident pretty throughly and I'm convinced
> that Oswald fired the shot, and I'm convinced he intentionally missed
> General Walker.
>
> I'm also convinced that Walker didn't know who had fired that shot until
> someone told him a couple of days after the assassination, that Oswald was
> the culprit. I believe that one of Walker's buddies at the FBI told him
> that they had heard a rumor ( from Mike Paine?) that Oswald was the person
> who had tried to kill General Walker and they investigating that rumor.
>
>
> Walker hated the Kennedy's and thought they were delivering the United
> States into the hands of world wide communism.... By placing the phone call
> to a newspaper Walker was attempting to capitalize on the propaganda that
> Oswald was a communist.....
>
>
> Walt
>
>Walt, I believe that call was made on 11/23. Also, I remember seeing
someplace that it was DeMohrenschildt that told the CIA that Oswald
shot at Walker.
But if the authorities knew this they shuld have arrested him.
If Walker knew this, it could be a motive to set him up as the patsy.
And to kill him later. Ruby was a visitor to Walker's house and was an
"admirer" of the General.

Walt

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That of course is possible.... because De M. knew Oswald was the person who
put a bullet through Walkers window. ( De M put Oswald up to it, and may
have been with Oswald when he fired the shot) BUT I sincerely doubt that
De M. would have told the CIA ( Unless Lydia Dymitruk was CIA) because he
wanted his involvment in the Walker shooting kept secret. However he did
tell Lydia Dymitruk that Oswald was the person who fired a bullet through
Walker's window.

But if the authorities knew this they shuld have arrested him.

Right....and that's an indication that De M. never told the authorities.

> If Walker knew this, it could be a motive to set him up as the patsy.

Walker spent quite a bit of money on private detectives trying to find the
person who fired the bullet through his window....... If he knew Oswald was
the culprit he would have went to the police and gave them that info ..and
he wouldn't have spent a lot of time effort and money chasing false leads.

No... Walker DID NOT know it was Oswald, until Mike Paine told the cops
after the assassination.

> And to kill him later.

Ruby was a visitor to Walker's house and was an
> "admirer" of the General.

Wow!!... your way off base here.....Ruby was a Jew and Walker was a
Nazi..... Ruby most certainly was NOT an admirer of Walker....

How many times did Ruby claim that the right wing element ( John Birch
Society ) in Dallas were behind the assassination???


Walt

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The Strange Case of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker General Edwin A.
Walker is known to most JFK assassination buffs as the man whom Oswald
allegedly shot at in April 1963. The general's right-wing connections are
often noted, as is the fact that he
was forced out of his command by the Kennedy administration for his
political indoctrination of his troops.

The following article is from Mc Adams website......

My comments will be preceded by the letter "W"


David Belin called the Tippit killing the "Rosetta Stone" of the Kennedy
assassination. More likely, Oswald's attempt on the life of General Edwin
A. Walker actually serves that function. If Oswald shot at Walker, it
becomes very easy to believe he shot at John Kennedy seven months later.

W: " Oswald's attempt on the life of General Edwin A. Walker"....This
statement bias the whole article.... The perfesser nor anybody else can be
certain the shooter was Oswald...Nor can they be certain that the shooting
was an attempt on the life of General Walker.

W: The perfesser is correct when he says.. " If Oswald shot at Walker,
it becomes very easy to believe he shot at John Kennedy seven months later".
That's not the perfesser's idea..... the Warren Commission used it to
convict Oswald in the public eye...

The Warren Commission account of the evidence follows. Not a great deal has
been added to the evidence since then, but two things can be pointed out:

1.) Marina Oswald has remained utterly consistent as regards the main
points of her testimony. She repeated them to the House Select Committee in
the late 70s, to author Gerald Posner, and even the NBC TV account of her
experiences broadcast in November 1993 (which had a strong conspiratorialist
bias) repeated her account of Lee coming home late at night and telling
Marina he had shot a Walker.

2.) The House Select Committee analyzed the bullet recovered from Walker's
house using Neutron Activitation Analysis, and concluded that the bullet was
"probably a Mannlicher-Carcano bullet" (Report, p. 60).

W: This is nothing but a lot of "scientific" gobbly gook to impress the
reader that the bullet was confirmed by science as a "Mannlicher Carcano"
bullet....
They could NOT have determined that the Walker Bullet (CE 573) was a
"Mannlicher Carcano" bullet ....the best they could have said about it was
the metals of the bullet are consistant with a specific manufacturer....

They didn't do that.....WHY???

Because the bullet DOES NOT match the bullet ( CE 399) that was found on a
bloody stretcher at Parkland.

The colored photo of CE 573 from the National Archives shows a badly
mangled, copper colored, jacketed bullet next to a metric ruler.....The
photo shows the base to be nearly round...and the base of the bullet seems
to measure 8mm..... NOT 6.5mm

The photo also shows that CE 573 has finer serration in the cannelure than
CE 399.... CE 573 has 44 serrations ( like on the rim of a dime) around the
circumference while CE 399 has 36 serrations....

The two bullets are clearly NOT from the same manufacturer...

The following is taken from the Warren Commission Report, pp. 183-187.
-----------------------------------------------------

The Attempt on the Life of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker

At approximately 9 p.m., on April 10, 1963, in Dallas, Tex.,Maj. Gen.
Edwin A. Walker, an active and controversial figure on the American
political scene since his resignation from the U.S.Army in 1961, narrowly
escaped death

W: " narrowly escaped death"???

when a rifle bullet fired from outside his home passed near his head as he
was seated at his desk.

W: Photo of the window shows the bullet passed through the BOTTOM wooden
window frame..... The only way that bullet could have passed close to
Walkers head was if he was crawling around on the floor......

There were no eyewitnesses, although a 14-year-old boy
in a neighboring house claimed that immediately after the
shooting he saw two men, in separate cars, drive out of a church parking lot
adjacent to Walker's home. A friend of Walker's testified that two nights
before the shooting he saw "two men around the house peeking in windows."
General Walker gave this information to the police before the shooting, but
it did not help solve the crime. Although the bullet was recovered from
Walker's house (see app. X, p. 562), in the absence of a weapon it was of
little investigatory value. General Walker hired two
investigators to determine whether a former employee might have been
involved in the shooting. Their results were negative. Until December 3,
1963, the Walker shooting remained unsolved.
The Commission evaluated the following evidence in
considering whether Lee Harvey Oswald fired the shot which almost killed
General Walker: (1) A note which Oswald left for his wife on the evening of
the shooting, photographs found among Oswald's possessions after the
assassination of President Kennedy, (3) firearm identification of the bullet
found in Walker's home, and
(4) admissions and other statements made to Marina Oswald by Oswald
concerning the shooting.

Note left by Oswald.---On December 2, 1963, Mrs. Ruth Paine turned over
to the police

W: How convient .....Just when the cops needed something to support the
story that Oswald " attempted to kill" General Walker.... the erstwhile Mrs.
Paine provides the "evidence"......

On December 2, 1963, Mrs. Ruth Paine turned over to the police ........

some of the Oswalds' belongings, including a Russian volume entitled "Book
of Useful Advice." In this book was an undated note written in Russian. In
translation, the note read as follows:


1. This is the key to the mailbox which is located in the main post office
in the city on Ervay Street. This is the same street where the drugstore,
in which you always waited is located. You will find the mailbox in the
post office which is located 4 blocks from the drugstore on that street. I
paid for the box last month so don't worry about it.

2. Send the information as to what has happened to me to the Embassy and
include newspaper clippings (should there be anything about me in the
newspapers). I believe that the Embassy will come quickly to your
assistance on learning everything.

3. I paid the house rent on the 2d so don't worry about it.

4. Recently I also paid for water and gas.

5. The money from work will possibly be coming. The money will be sent to
our post office box. Go to the bank and cash the check.

6. You can either throw out or give my clothing, etc. away. Do not keep
these. However, I prefer that you hold on to my personal papers (military,
civil, etc.).

7. Certain of my documents are in the small blue valise.

8. The address book can be found on my table in the study should need same.

9. We have friends here. The Red Cross also will help you [Red Cross in
English].

10. I left you as much money as I could, $60 on the second of the month.
You and the baby [apparently] can live for another 2 months using $10 per
week.

11. If I am alive and taken prisoner, the city jail is located
at the end of the bridge through which we always passed on going to the city
(right in the beginning of the city after crossing the bridge).

James C. Cadigan, FBI handwriting expert, testified that this note was
written by Lee Harvey Oswald.

Prior to the Walker shooting on April 10, Oswald had been attending
typing classes on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday evenings. He had quit these
classes at least a week before the shooting, which occurred on a Wednesday
night. According to Marina Oswald's testimony, on the night of the Walker
shooting,
her husband left their apartment on Neely Street shortly after dinner. She
thought he was attending a class or was on his own business." When he
failed to return by 10 or 10:30 p.m., Marina Oswald went to his room and
discovered the note. She testified: "When he came back I asked him what had
happened. He was very pale. I don't remember the exact time, but it was
very late.
And he told me not to ask him any questions. He only told me he had shot at
General Walker."

W: He only told me he had shot..AT.. General Walker."

Oswald told his wife that he did not know whether he had hit Walker;

W: If Oswald intended to kill Walker all he had to do was reload and fire
again....Because Walker said he didn't know what happened and he just sat
there looking around..... The fact that he never fired the second shot is a
strong indication that he did NOT intend to kill Walker.


according to Marina Oswald when he learned on the radio and in the
newspapers the next day
that he had missed, he said that he "was very sorry that he had not hit
him."

W: If he said this, it was probably for Marina's ears...

Marina Oswald's testimony was fully supported by the note itself which
appeared to be the work of a man expecting to be killed, or imprisoned, or
to disappear. The last paragraph directed her to the jail and the other
paragraphs instructed her on the disposal of Oswald's personal effects and
the management of her affairs if he should not return.

It is clear that the note was written while the Oswalds were living in
Dallas before they moved to New Orleans in the spring of 1963. The
references to house rent and payments for water and gas indicated that the
note was written when they were living in a rented apartment; therefore it
could not have been written
while Marina Oswald was living with the Paines. Moreover, the reference in
paragraph 3 to paying "the house rent on the 2d" would be consistent with
the period when the Oswalds were living on Neely Street since the apartment
was rented on March 3, 1963.
Oswald had paid the first month's rent in advance on March 2, 1963, and the
second month's rent was paid on either April 2 or April 3. The main post
office "on Ervay Street" refers to the post office where Oswald rented box
2915 from October 9, 1962, to May 14, 1963. Another statement which limits
the time when it could have been written is the reference "you and the
baby," which would indicate that it was probably written before the birth of
Oswald's second child on October 20, 1963.

Oswald had apparently mistaken the county jail for the city jail. From
Neely Street the Oswalds would have traveled downtown on the Beckley bus,
across the Commerce Street viaduct and into downtown Dallas through the
Triple Underpass. Either the viaduct
or the underpass might have been the "bridge" mentioned in the last
paragraph of the note. The county jail is at the corner of Houston and Main
Streets "right in the beginning of the city" after one travels through the
underpass.

Photographs.---In her testimony before the Commission in February 1964,
Marina Oswald stated that when Oswald returned home on the night of the
Walker shooting, he told her that he had been planning the attempt for 2
months. He showed her a notebook
3 days later containing photographs of General Walker's home and a map of
the area where the house was located. Although Oswald destroyed the
notebook, three photographs found among Oswald's possessions after the
assassination were identified by Marina Oswald as photographs of General
Walker's house. Two of these
photographs were taken from the rear of Walker's house. The Commission
confirmed, by comparison with other photographs, that these were, indeed,
photographs of the rear of Walker's house.
An examination of the window at the rear of the house, the wall through
which the bullet passed, and the fence behind the house indicated that the
bullet was fired from a position near the point where one of the photographs
was taken.

The third photograph identified by Marina Oswald depicts the entrance
to General Walker's driveway from a back alley. Also seen in the picture is
the fence on which Walker's assailant apparently rested the rifle. An
examination of certain construction work appearing in the background of
this photograph revealed that the picture was taken between March 8 and 12,
1963, and most probably on either March 9 or March 10. Oswald
purchased the money order for the rifle on March 12, the rifle was shipped
on March 20, and the shooting occurred on April 10.
A photography expert with the FBI was able to determine that this picture
was taken with the Imperial Reflex camera owned by Lee Harvey Oswald. (See
app. X, p. 596.)

W: Ruth Paine gave the Imperial Reflex camera to Robert Oswald ( saying
it was Lee's camera) and he gave it to Dallas Police.... Marina didn't
remember it as the camera she used to take the back yard photo CE 133A.

A fourth photograph, showing a stretch of railroad tracks, was also
identified by Marina Oswald as having been taken by her husband, presumably
in connection with the Walker shooting.
Investigation determined that this photograph was taken
approximately seven-tenths of a mile from Walker's house.
Another photograph of railroad tracks found among Oswald's possessions was
not identified by his wife, but investigation revealed that it was taken
from a point slightly less than half a mile from General Walker's house.
Marina Oswald stated that when she asked her husband what be had done with
the rifle, he replied that he had buried it in the ground or hidden it in
some bushes
and that he also mentioned a railroad track in this connection.
She testified that several days later Oswald recovered his rifle and brought
it back to their apartment.

Firearms identification.---In the room beyond the one in which General
Walker was sitting on the night of the shooting the Dallas police recovered
a badly mutilated bullet which had come to rest on a stack of paper. The
Dallas City County Investigation Laboratory tried to determine the type of
weapon which fired the bullet. The oral report was negative because of the
battered condition of the bullet. On November 30, 1963, the
FBI requested the bullet for ballistics examination; the Dallas

W: NOV 30??..... The story that General Walker gave to the Editor of the
Munich Newspaper appeared om Nov 28. How did Walker know that Oswald had
fired the shot before the cops did??

Police Department forwarded it on December 2, 1963.

Robert A. Frazier, an FBI ballistics identification expert, testified
that he was "unable to reach a conclusion" as to whether or not the bullet
recovered from Walker's house had been fired from the rifle found on the
sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building. He concluded that
"the general rifling characteristics of the rifle * * * are of the same type
as those found on the bullet * * * and, further, on this basis * * * the
bullet could have been fired from the rifle on the basis of its
land and groove impressions." Frazier testified further that the FBI
'avoids the category of "probable" identification. Unless the missile or
cartridge case can be identified as coming from a particular weapon to the
exclusion of all others, the FBI refuses to draw any conclusion as to
probability. Frazier testified,
however, that he found no microscopic characteristics or other evidence
which would indicate that the bullet was not fired from the
Mannlicher-Carcano rifle owned by Lee Harvey Oswald.

W: What a CROCK!!..... Frazier trys to give the impression that the FBI
would draw a conclusion unless they were absolutely certain.....and yet the
whole damned case they presented on Oswald was circumstantial at best... and
outright lies at worst.

It was a 6.5-millimeter bullet and, according to Frazier, "relatively few"
types of rifles could produce the characteristics found on the bullet.

W: CROCK!!!....The Vast majority 6.5mm rifles have four groove
barrels..... Frazier is a damned LIAR.

Joseph D. Nicol, superintendent of the Illinois Bureau of
Criminal Identification and Investigation, conducted an
independent examination of this bullet and concluded "that there is a fair
probability" that the bullet was fired from the rifle used in the
assassination of President Kennedy. In explaining the difference between
his policy and that of the FBI on the matter of probable identification,
Nicol said: I am aware of their position. This is not, I am sure,
arrived at without careful consideration. However, to say that because
one does not find sufficient marks for
identification that it is a negative, I think is going
overboard in the other direction. And for purposes of
probative value, for whatever it might be worth, in the
absence of very definite negative evidence, I think it is
permissible to say that in an exhibit such as there is
enough on it to say that it could have come, and even
perhaps a little stronger, to say that it probably came from this,
without going so far as to say to the exclusion of all other guns. This I
could not do.

Although the Commission recognizes that neither expert was able to
state that the bullet which missed General Walker was fired from Oswald's
rifle to the exclusion of all others, this testimony was considered
probative when combined with the other testimony linking Oswald to the
shooting.

W: Here's a good example of how the Warren Commission used "evidence" to
frame Oswald. They said that even though the experts couldn't be certain
the walker bullet was fired by Oswald .....they believed that Oswald fired
it based on heresay evidence...

Additional corroborative evidence.---The admissions made to Marina Oswald by
her husband are an important element in the evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald
fired the shot at General Walker.

W: Marina was a lot more deeply involved in the Walker shooting than she
has ever admitted.....

Whatever George De Mohrenschildt, and Oswald were planning..... Marina was
in on it..........

Oswald told Ron Lewis that the shooting was an attempt to make Walker look
like a publicity hound. Lee said he thought the reporters who arrived on the
scene would see it as a cheap publicity stunt by Walker..... by staging a
phoney attempt on his life.

As shown above, the note and the photographs of Walker's house and of the
nearby railroad tracks provide important corroboration for her account of
the incident. Other details described by Marina Oswald coincide with facts
developed independently of her statements. She testified that her husband
had postponed his attempt to kill Walker until that Wednesday because he had
heard
that there was to be a gathering at the church next door to
Walker's house on that evening. He indicated that he wanted more people in
the vicinity at the time of the attempt so that his arrival and departure
would not attract great attention. An official of this church told FBI
agents that services are held every Wednesday at the church except during
the month of August.
Marina Oswald also testified that her husband had used a bus to return home.
A study of the bus routes indicates that Oswald could have taken any one of
several different buses to Walker's house or to a point near the railroad
tracks where he may have concealed the rifle. It would have been possible
for him to take different routes in approaching and leaving the scene of the
shooting.

Conclusion.---Based on (1) the contents of the note which Oswald left
for his wife on April 10, 1963, (2) the photographs found among Oswald's
possessions, (3) the testimony of firearms identification experts, and (4)
the testimony of Marina Oswald, the Commission has concluded that Lee Harvey
Oswald attempted to
take the life of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker (Resigned, U.S. Army) on April
10, 1963.

The finding that Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to murder a public figure in
April 1963 was considered of probative value in this investigation,

W: What a crock!! A bullet hole in a window is conclusive proof that
Oswald attempted to Murder General Walker??? Any old lawyer would have
ripped this finding to shreds.....

Walt

although the Commission's conclusion concerning the identity of the assassin
was based on
evidence independent of the finding that Oswald attempted to kill General
Walker.

clark wilkins

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Gil, I thought I'd let you know that I thought enough of this post to copy
it and save it. I noticed you complaining about the "noise" from the LNers
you were receiving and thought you ought to know that I think your posts are
getting better all the time. I'm not sure what "RE" stands for though.


::Clark::


"Gil Jesus" <gjj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Walt

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"clark wilkins" <clwi...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> Gil, I thought I'd let you know that I thought enough of this post to copy
> it and save it. I noticed you complaining about the "noise" from the LNers
> you were receiving and thought you ought to know that I think your posts
are
> getting better all the time. I'm not sure what "RE" stands for though.
>
>
> ::Clark::
>
>
> "Gil Jesus" <gjj...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030216083818...@mb-fd.aol.com...
> > The Strange Case of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker
> >
> >
> > General Edwin A. Walker is known to most JFK assassination buffs as the
> man
> > whom Oswald allegedly shot at in April 1963.

I can't help but think there is a connection between Gen. Edwin A. Walker
and George Herbert WALKER Bush.
I'm sure G.H.W.Bush has eradicated any trace of a family tie between himself
and the Nazi General.....

Walt

Gil Jesus

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I believe Walker was the maiden name of George Bush's mother, Prescott Bush's
wife. I don't know if she was realted to Gen. Walker or not.
It might be interesting to investigate.
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