Just saw Bugliosi on Television
RICLAND
disgusted with the show. First the host lauded him for writing Helter
Skelter and all his other books without mentioning that all of
Bugliosi's books were co-written. The host actually went as far as
saying that Bugliosi's bibliography is a "testament to what a great
writer he is."
Then there was the obligatory Bugliosi boasting about what a great
prosecutor he was which went on for over 30 minutes. I can't tell how
painful this was.
Then comes his sweeping generalizations of Warren Commission critics
-- "They're all either liars or ignorant." His attacks of Oliver
Stone were unrelenting. He just couldn't stop telling the audience how
ignorant and silly "Oliver" was.
And throughout all of this mindless babble were the worn-out anecdotes
he embellishes his speeches with, ones like his appearance before a
group of trial attorneys -- "90%" of whom didn't believe the Warren
Report -- and how he showed them all to be imbeciles by simply
asking, "Let me see by a show of hands how many of you have read the
Warren Report."
But the biggest outrage was the staged Q&A. He allowed only two
questions, both of which were obviously asked by plants. He then took
20 minutes to answer each of these questions -- result, the Warren
Report critics in the audience were completely neutralized.
It was all pure schlock, the kind of performance medicine show barkers
used to give, including the part where the host comes out to tell
everyone the Q&A is over as Bugliosi grabbed his papers and scurries
out of the room.
This guy is contemptible, a complete shyster and scoundrel. He lowers
the bar. He has taken the debate and turned it into an anti-
intellectual witch hunt. He has maligned the intelligence and
character of everyone who disagrees with him. He had almost nothing to
do with the "writing" of Helter Skelter, but now demands he be
introduced as its author. He says things like "Since I've shown it is
not humanely possible for Oswald to be innocent, every question the
critics bring up is irrelevant."
As he ran out of the room the camera panned the audience and it was
clear people were pissed he hadn't left enough time for their
questions.
I learned nothing from his talk, nothing except what fake Bugliosi
is.
ricland
lazu...@webtv.net
the ultimate fraud in this case, and Oliver Stone will yet be regarded
as being much closer to the truth of what happened that horrible day in
our history.------Old Laz
aeffects
amen! Jealousy is so unbecoming re: daBugliosi
cdddraftsman
Just finished watching Bugliosi on television and was utterly
Skelter and all his other books with mentioning that all of
Bugliosi's books were writen exclusively by himself . The host
actually went as far as saying that Bugliosi's bibliography is a
Then there was the hearlded Bugliosi tribute about what a great
prosecutor he was which went on for over 30 minutes. I can't tell how
great this was.
Then comes his sweeping generalizations of Warren Commission critics
-- "They're all either liars or ignorant or like the *Pric*Star*."
His attacks of Oliver Stone were unrelenting. He just couldn't stop
telling the audience how ignorant and silly "Oliver" was , I loved
every minute of it because every minute if it was the absolute
truth .
And throughout all of this great tribute were anecdotes and
he embellishes his speeches with, ones like his appearance before a
group of trial attorneys -- "90%" of whom didn't believe the Warren
Report -- and how he showed them all to be imbeciles by simply
asking, "Let me see by a show of hands how many of you have read the
Warren Report."
But the biggest outrage was the staged Q&A. He allowed only two
questions, both of which were obviously asked by members of the
cwitical tinkering community . He then took 20 minutes to answer each
of these questions -- result, the Warren Report critics in the
audience were completely neutralized and sat dumfounded , with looks
of conundrum ridden foolishness on each of their sad puppy dog
looking
faces .
It was all pure 100% Da Bug , again I loved every minute of it , the
kind of performance he used to give when he was the greatest
prosecuter in the world and still may be today !
This guy is great , a complete intellectual and still I think a great
prosecuter . He has taken the CTer community bashed them upsides
there
head and pulled down there pantys and given them a good spanking in
front of their stewpid looking peers , who had no defense . He has
taken the debate to new heights and turned it into an anti-cwitical
tinkering community hunt for the real scoundrels . He has maligned
the
lack of intelligence and character of everyone who disagrees with him.
He says things like "Since I've shown it is not humanely possible for
Oswald to be
innocent, every question the critics bring up is irrelevant." Never
truer words spoken !
....................tl
justm...@gmail.com
Sorry I missed the show...sounded like a great one. Ricland, Bugliosi
left you feeling exactly the way he wanted you to feel. That is the
work of intelligence and this is why he IS one of the best criminal
lawyers around. Nothing you can do or say to change it Ricland so you
might as well learn to deal with it.
justme
David Von Pein
You didn't really "miss" it....because I'm nearly certain that the
program Ricland-Kook is referring to is one of the May 2007 recorded
book-tour sessions with Mr. Bugliosi (videotaped by an outfit called
Fora.TV). And all of those programs have been archived and can be
viewed any time.
Here's a complete list:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/ac7806f2e390aeb3
The first one Vince did was in New York City on May 15th:
justm...@gmail.com
Thanks Dave :)
bigdog
wrote:
Critics of the WC ARE all either liars or ignorant. The general public
can be forgiven for believing in a non-existent conspiracy because
most of what they know about the assassination comes from Oliver
Stone's propaganda movie. They fall into the ignorant category. On the
other hand, those who have taken the time to study the evidence and
continue to argue against Oswald's guilt are denying the obvious. Such
people deserve nothing but contempt. They are twisting the truth and
trying to rewrite history. 100 years from now, the WCR, Case Closed,
and Reclaiming History will be the definitive works that historical
scholars will rely on for the truth about the JFK assassination. The
works of Bozos like Lane, Lifton, Groden and a whole host of others
will probably be laughed at if they are read at all. This is what gets
CT's shorts in a wad. They have won the battle for current public
opinion but they are losing the battle for the historical verdict of
the assassination. The reason for that is that none of them has ever
come up with a theory of the assassination that could stand up to even
a fraction of the scrutiny of the WCR has endured. You can't replace
something with nothing and nothing is what the CTs have come up with
in the 43+ years since JFK was gunned down in Dallas.
David Von Pein
I stand corrected. The TV program with Vincent Bugliosi that aired on
both July 28 and July 29 is a program called "Book TV" (which airs
every weekend on C-Span2). .....
http://www.booktv.org/program.aspx?ProgramId=8329&SectionName=History&PlayMedia=
It's a 71-minute program with Bugliosi appearing at the Sixth Floor
Museum in Dallas on May 24th, 2007. That VB appearance was not
televised by the "Fora.TV" people though. VB's other Dallas appearance
that same day (at the Bar Association) was videotaped by Fora,
however.
I want to thank Jerry Dealey (a distant relative of Mr. Dealey of
Dallas' "Dealey Plaza" fame) for this C-Span2 information re. VB's
appearance. (I then looked up more information about "Book TV" on the
ever-efficient Internet.)
Jerry's a very nice guy. And although he definitely tends to lean
toward "conspiracy" in the JFK case, he's certainly not a rabid CT-
Kook by any means. I've had a few thoughtful conversations with Jerry
at the JFK-Lancer forum in the past (mainly about the physical layout
of certain things located in Dealey Plaza; he's a pretty fair expert
on the Plaza).
Jerry also wrote a recent review at Amazon for Bugliosi's JFK book.
It's a good review, and yet a bit of a strange one at the same time.
He gives the book a maximum 5 stars, but then proceeds to generally
bash and criticize VB all the way through the medium-sized review.
Well, I guess that's why Jerry is such a good "fence rider" when it
comes to the Kennedy assassination....i.e., he seems to be able to
argue both sides of the equation with seemingly equal amounts of
veracity.
It's just too bad for Jerry that there's nothing of a physical nature
to hang his "conspiracy" hat on in his fence-riding venture. ;)
justm...@gmail.com
> VB Update/Correction.......
>
> I stand corrected. The TV program with Vincent Bugliosi that aired on
> both July 28 and July 29 is a program called "Book TV" (which airs
> every weekend on C-Span2). .....
>
>
> It's a 71-minute program with Bugliosi appearing at the Sixth Floor
> Museum in Dallas on May 24th, 2007. That VB appearance was not
> televised by the "Fora.TV" people though. VB's other Dallas appearance
> that same day (at the Bar Association) was videotaped by Fora,
> however.
>
> I want to thank Jerry Dealey (a distant relative of Mr. Dealey of
> Dallas' "Dealey Plaza" fame) for this C-Span2 information re. VB's
> appearance. (I then looked up more information about "Book TV" on the
> ever-efficient Internet.)
>
>
> Jerry's a very nice guy. And although he definitely tends to lean
> toward "conspiracy" in the JFK case, he's certainly not a rabid CT-
> Kook by any means. I've had a few thoughtful conversations with Jerry
> at the JFK-Lancer forum in the past (mainly about the physical layout
> of certain things located in Dealey Plaza; he's a pretty fair expert
> on the Plaza).
>
> Jerry also wrote a recent review at Amazon for Bugliosi's JFK book.
> It's a good review, and yet a bit of a strange one at the same time.
> He gives the book a maximum 5 stars, but then proceeds to generally
> bash and criticize VB all the way through the medium-sized review.
>
> Well, I guess that's why Jerry is such a good "fence rider" when it
> comes to the Kennedy assassination....i.e., he seems to be able to
> argue both sides of the equation with seemingly equal amounts of
> veracity.
>
> It's just too bad for Jerry that there's nothing of a physical nature
> to hang his "conspiracy" hat on in his fence-riding venture. ;)
Very well said bigdog...you hit the nail on the head.
Thanks for the update Dave...and you're right about Jerry, very nice
person. I talked to him a few times in email about a year ago.
David Von Pein
Museum in Dallas on May 24, 2007 (Length: 71 minutes).
This is the TV program (shown on C-Span2 on July 28th and July 29th,
2007) that the author of the first post in this thread (aka: RICLAND
THE MEGA-KOOK) was unsuccessfully attempting to trash:
http://www.booktv.org/program.aspx?ProgramId=8329&SectionName=History&PlayMedia=Yes
===============
>>> "As he {Vince B.} ran out of the room the camera panned the audience and it was clear people were pissed he hadn't left enough time for their questions." <<<
Nothing even remotely close to this type of "pissed" reaction is
visible on any of the people in the audience after the program ended.
As to why Ric-Kook said this, I can only ~shrug~ in bewilderment.
===============
Lone
There much easier ways to get cold turkey than watch such a Bug ass
show.
In Europe such a history-liar would be put in jail right after such a
history lie show
David Von Pein
Remind me to stay out of London then.
Kook.
cdddraftsman
> Remind me to stay out of London then.
>
> Kook.
Hahahahahahah ! Good one DVP , put that holmes boot strap licking turd
right in his place . Hehehehehehehe ! ............tl
Lone
> Remind me to stay out of London then.
>
> Kook.
No, no: I think London is O.K for you DVP. David Irving another liar
on historical subjects lives there. So you are in good company. But
DVP: I would advise you not to go to central europe.In central europe
Irving spent several month in prison for his historical lies, last
year...
Enjoy your trip
aeffects
> VB Update/Correction.......
>
> I stand corrected. The TV program with Vincent Bugliosi that aired on
> both July 28 and July 29 is a program called "Book TV" (which airs
> every weekend on C-Span2). .....
>
>
> It's a 71-minute program with Bugliosi appearing at the Sixth Floor
> Museum in Dallas on May 24th, 2007. That VB appearance was not
> televised by the "Fora.TV" people though. VB's other Dallas appearance
> that same day (at the Bar Association) was videotaped by Fora,
> however.
>
> I want to thank Jerry Dealey (a distant relative of Mr. Dealey of
> Dallas' "Dealey Plaza" fame) for this C-Span2 information re. VB's
> appearance. (I then looked up more information about "Book TV" on the
> ever-efficient Internet.)
>
>
> Jerry's a very nice guy. And although he definitely tends to lean
> toward "conspiracy" in the JFK case, he's certainly not a rabid CT-
> Kook by any means. I've had a few thoughtful conversations with Jerry
> at the JFK-Lancer forum in the past (mainly about the physical layout
> of certain things located in Dealey Plaza; he's a pretty fair expert
> on the Plaza).
>
> Jerry also wrote a recent review at Amazon for Bugliosi's JFK book.
> It's a good review, and yet a bit of a strange one at the same time.
> He gives the book a maximum 5 stars, but then proceeds to generally
> bash and criticize VB all the way through the medium-sized review.
>
> Well, I guess that's why Jerry is such a good "fence rider" when it
> comes to the Kennedy assassination....i.e., he seems to be able to
> argue both sides of the equation with seemingly equal amounts of
> veracity.
as opposed to you, yes? A Lone Nutter Kook!
aeffects
wrote:
the weather, perhap? You've displayed absolutely no knowledge about
this case (Nutter or CT) YOU need a friend, head for a chatroom
someplace, DOLT!
aeffects
busy enough to keep your sorry ass busy refuting theory[s] -- whose
the KOOK? LMFAO
aeffects
daBug won't leave Hollyweird... he needs it more than Oliver Stone
tomnln
"David Von Pein" <davev...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1186127896.6...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Lone
> >>> "Sorry I missed the show...sounded like a great one." <<<
>
> You didn't really "miss" it....because I'm nearly certain that the
> book-tour sessions with Mr. Bugliosi (videotaped by an outfit called
> Fora.TV). And all of those programs have been archived and can be
> viewed any time.
>
> Here's a complete list:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/ac7806f2e390aeb3
>
> The first one Vince did was in New York City on May 15th:
>
> http://www.fora.tv/fora/fora_clip.php?cid=965
Saw Bug got cold turkey