CE2011 Vs. FD-302

[David Von Pein]

JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID:

>>> "CE 2011 has none of these identifying marks on it. Because there is no writer attributed and no date on it. Therefore it is not traceable." <<<


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

You're nuts. The only differences between the contents of CE2011 and
an individual FD-302 form are the "File Number" that appears at the
lower-right of the FD-302 form, and the "Date Dictated" line that
appears on each FD-302. Big deal.

Otherwise, every substantial thing that is contained in an FD-302 is
also present in the individual paragraphs in CE2011, including:

1.) The date of each interview -- (present in CE2011 and present in an
FD-302 report).

2.) The name of the FBI agent who did the interview -- (present in
CE2011 and present in an FD-302).

3.) The location of the interview -- (present in most instances in
CE2011 and also present in most instances in an FD-302). This item
isn't important anyway. But it is there in most of the interviews seen
in CE2011.

4.) A brief synopsis of each interview -- (present in CE2011 and
present in each FD-302 report).

So, as always, the conspiracy therorists are making huge boiling
volcanos out of minor wet-weather springs, because--in substance--
CE2011 serves exactly the same purpose and conveys the EXACT same
information as an FD-302 report conveys. They are, therefore,
essentially identical.


>>> "I mean as far as a legal document, I don't even think it would be admitted in court." <<<

You're deranged.

[David Von Pein]

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[David Von Pein]

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Question for Bob Harris:

Do you think that ALL of the dozens of interviews that are seen in
CE2011 (above) are phony interviews?

If you answer "No" to that question, then I'm asking you to produce an
FD-302 for ANY of the dozens of interviews that appear in CE2011. Can
you do that?

BTW/FYI, I scoured the Mary Ferrell site for hours a couple days ago,
searching for a Warren Commission Document (CD) dated approx. June or
July 1964 (or later), in order to find ANY FD-302 reports for ANY of
the June/July '64 interviews that appear in CE2011, and I had no luck.
Maybe you'll have better luck, here:

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/docset/getList.do?docSetId=1008

And if you've got 16 more years to spare, try this DPD site:

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/

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JAMES DiEUGENIO SAID:

>>> "And when you say every agent's name is the same..." <<<

DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Huh? When did I ever say that? This makes no sense at all.

>>> "...well I hope you are not including Odum are you? I mean please Davey. He never showed any bullet to anyone." <<<

Sure he did. He took 399 to Parkland on 6/12/64 and showed it to
Tomlinson and Wright.

Odum's memory had obviously failed him by the year 2001. Simple as
that.

And I still want to know if Wright ever DENIED being shown CE399 by
the FBI?


>>> "And also, whoever did write the memo never saw CE 399 right? Since Todd's initials are not on it." <<<

Yes, they are. They just cannot be discerned in the NARA photos. In
fact, as anyone can easily see, the OTHER initials on CE399 are also
very hard to discern in those NARA photos. I can't make out ANY of the
initials (Frazier's, Killion's, or Cunningham's). And there's no way
you can look at these pictures and tell me with a straight face that
you CAN positively make out the specific markings of all three of
those FBI agents (Frazier, Killion, Cunningham). If you say you CAN do
that by looking at these photos, you're not being honest:

http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Photos_-_NARA_Evidence_-_Magic_Bullet


>>> "It [CE2011] is [a] blind memo. In more ways than one. Not anything like a 302." <<<

Bullshit. The SUBSTANCE of CE2011 is IDENTICAL to what we find in an
FD-302 report. There is NO substantial difference at all. And you know
it.


>>> "Give it up, will you." <<<

Not a chance. Because I like watching you dig yourself a deeper hole
with each passing day regarding all the shit you think was "fake" and
"fraudulent".

And the disgusting "grunting pigs" comment that you recently made
concerning the very honorable men who sat on the Warren Commission
just shows how low-class you truly are.

I wish Arlen Specter would sue your ass for $20-million. And Wesley
Frazier and Linnie Randle should probably sue your sorry ass for
defamation too.

But before the lawsuits begin, perhaps you can dig up even ONE FD-302
for any interview seen in CE2011. Any chance you can do that, Jimbo?

And, remember, in order for you to have a "case", you've really got to
come up with proof that FD-302s were made out for EACH AND EVERY "NON-
PHONY" interview that is represented in CE2011 -- and there are dozens
of them in there too; you surely don't want to embarrass yourself even
further by claiming that ALL of those interviews are "frauds", do you,
Jimmy?

Good luck finding all of those FD-302s to prove your case. I
definitely tried...and I found this many -- Zero.

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