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tomnln
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This is the ONLY test you'll ever pass Timmy.
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Let's see if you can pass the Walker test Tommy:
1) Was Walker wounded in the shooting incident later attributed to
Oswald?
2) Is mention made of whether this in evidence in the 26 WC volumes?
3) Is mention made of this in testimony in the 26 WC volumes?
Yes or no answers will suffice, tomnln. Chop chop.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
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On Nov 30, 4:41 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
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Gil Jesus
After Oswald "attacked" Walker, he allegedly buried his rifle near
some railroad tracks, according to Marina, the Commission's only
witness to connect Oswald to the Walker shooting.
When the FBI examined the rifle on 11/23/63, did they find any dirt or
traces of soil anywhere on or in the rifle ?
Yes or no ?
tims...@gmail.com
LOL! I didn't know that your name was tomnln, Gil.
BTW, how do you deal with identifiable marks on the weapon in the
backyard photos matching the weapon retrieved from the TSBD?
Your blather about dirt being found or not found on the rifle many
months later is absurd, Gil. Who cares?
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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Gil Jesus
> TOP POST
>
> LOL! I didn't know that your name was tomnln, Gil.
>
> BTW, how do you deal with identifiable marks on the weapon in the
> backyard photos matching the weapon retrieved from the TSBD?
I DEAL WITH IT USING TESTIMONY, YOU ?
Mr. EISENBERG. Now, Mr. Shaneyfelt, ---have you formed an opinion
concerning whether Exhibit 139, the rifle used in the assassination,
is the same or similar to the rifle pictured in Exhibit 133A?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; I have.
Mr. EISENBERG. Can you give us that opinion?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; I compared the actual rifle with the photograph,
Exhibit 133A, and with the photographs that I prepared from Exhibit
133A, as well as the other simulated photograph and the photograph of
the rifle, attempting to establish whether or not it could be
determined whether it was or was not the same.
I found it to be the same general configuration. All appearances were
the same. I found no differences. I DID NOT FIND ANY REALLY SPECIFIC
PECULIARITIES ON WHICH I COULD BASE A POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION TO THE
EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER RIFLES of the same general configuration.
I did find one notch in the stock at this point that appears very
faintly in the photograph, but it is NOT SUFFICIENT TO WARRANT
POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION.
( 4 H 281 )
GOT THAT TIMMY ? ....NO POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION MEANS NO MATCHES.
> Your blather about dirt being found or not found on the rifle many
> months later is absurd, Gil. Who cares?
You should Timmy. You said Oswald fired at Walker. The only witness
was Marina. She said that he buried the rifle near some railroad
tracks.
Was there dirt on or in the rifle when the FBI examined it, Timmy ?
Yes or No ?
Was any gun-cleaning equipment found by police among Oswald's
possessions, Timmy ?
Yes or No ?
Your only witness' credibility is at stake here.
You should be able to provide evidence to support her claims.
tomnln
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Let's see if you can pass the Walker test Tommy:
1) Was Walker wounded in the shooting incident later attributed to
Oswald?
2) Is mention made of whether this in evidence in the 26 WC volumes?
3) Is mention made of this in testimony in the 26 WC volumes?
Yes or no answers will suffice, tomnln. Chop chop.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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SEE Volume VXI page 409 Timmy>>>
General WALKER. The police asked me to sit down when I got there and they
went through the motions of lining up the shot from inside and outside.
And one policeman said, "He couldn't have missed you."
And one said, a lieutenant I believe it was, said, "It was an attempted
assassination."
And I said, "What makes you call it that?" And he said, "Because he
definitely was out to get you."
And I said, "Your remark sounds like a natural remark." But as I later was
analyzing the thing, he couldn't see either with a scope or without a scope.
He couldn't see from his position any of the lattice work either in the
windows or in the screens because of the light. It would have looked like
one big lighted area, and he could have been a very good shot and just by
chance he hit the woodwork.
Mr. LIEBELER. Which he did in fact?
General WALKER. Which he did, and there was enough deflection in it to miss
me, except for slivers of the bullet, the casing of the bullet that went
into my arm laying on the desk--slivers of the shell jacket.
Mr. LIEBELER. I show you a photograph marked Commission Exhibit No. 2 and
ask you if you recognize the scene in that picture?
General WALKER. Yes; I identify this picture looking approximately south
down the alley, taken from about the entrance of where the alley enters the
church, a few steps short of where the alley enters the church parking area.
It is facing approximately south. Shows the back entrance to my back yard
and the tree and my garbage can and the lattice fence on the west.
Mr. LIEBELER. The alley that runs down there is the alley that runs
directly behind your house, isn't that correct?
General. WALKER. That is correct. And the direction we are looking is the
direction in which it connects and joins Avondale Street.
Mr. LIEBELER. Do you recognize that object in the background that looks
like a building maybe under construction?
General WALKER. That is the bigger apartment house down south of me.
Timmy doesn't know any more about the Walker shooting than he does about
the....
5 foot 3 inches tall
Blond Haired
119 pound Oswald in Mexico City.
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LOL! Hey Gil, have you ever thought of getting out of the stone age?
The HSCA examined this matter in the seventies Gil.
Why didn't you cite that?
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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tims...@gmail.com
LOL! Tomnln, you appeared to claim earlier that Walker wasn't wounded
in the shooting incident.
Then you posted testimony from the 26 volumes that he was.
How has this, in any way, furthered your argument, tomnln??
Baffled Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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tomnln
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LOL! Tomnln, you appeared to claim earlier that Walker wasn't wounded
in the shooting incident.
Then you posted testimony from the 26 volumes that he was.
How has this, in any way, furthered your argument, tomnln??
Baffled Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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I just LOVE gettin you to post here Timmy.
Every one of your posts gives me an opportunity to Prove that you LIE.
Show the nice people a post by me denying that Walker was wounded Timmy???
Then, you can address these crimes comitted by the authorities you've been
RUNNIN from for the past year>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htm
http://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
Aiding & Abetting a crime makes you an "Accessory After the Fact" Timmy.
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tims...@gmail.com
Here ya go, Tommy:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/14e728331bd37f5d
Got any explanation, tomnln?
Here, I'll spell it out for you. This is part of what I wrote to Gil
Jesus:
QUOTE ON:
Hey Gilly! Didja work out yet that Oswald wounded Walker when he
attempted to kill him? It's in the 26 volumes, Gil.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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QUOTE OFF
This is how you responded, tomnln:
QUOTE ON:
Looks like Timmy doesn't know anything about the Walker shooting.
QUOTE OFF
If you weren't claiming that I was wrong in saying that Walker was
wounded, what were you saying, tomnln?
Awaiting your reply, tomnln.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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On Dec 1, 6:51 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> <timst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> TOP POST
>
> LOL! Tomnln, you appeared to claim earlier that Walker wasn't wounded
> in the shooting incident.
>
> Then you posted testimony from the 26 volumes that he was.
>
> How has this, in any way, furthered your argument, tomnln??
>
> Baffled Regards,
>
> Tim Brennan
> Sydney, Australia
> *Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
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>
> I just LOVE gettin you to post here Timmy.
>
> Every one of your posts gives me an opportunity to Prove that you LIE.
>
> Show the nice people a post by me denying that Walker was wounded Timmy???
>
> Then, you can address these crimes comitted by the authorities you've been
> RUNNIN from for the past year>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htmhttp://whokilledjfk.net/CASE%20DISMISSED.htm
Gil Jesus
>
> Here, I'll spell it out for you. This is part of what I wrote to Gil
> Jesus:
>
> QUOTE ON:
>
> Hey Gilly! Didja work out yet that Oswald wounded Walker when he
> attempted to kill him? It's in the 26 volumes, Gil.
So said Marina Oswald. She also said that he buried the rifle.
So when are you going to answer these two "YES OR NO" questions,
Timmy ?
Was there dirt or soil found on or in the rifle by the FBI when they
examined it on 11/23/63 ?
Was there gun cleaning equipment found among Oswald's possessions when
the Police searched his room and the Paine residence on either 11/22
or 11/23 ?
Take off those sneakers and stop running from the questions, Timmy.
David Von Pein
>>> "Was there dirt or soil found on or in the rifle by the FBI when they examined it on 11/23/63?" <<<
Typical kooky question being put forth by a kook.
Oswald buries his rifle in some unknown area (and in a totally-unknown
fashion) in APRIL 1963, and Gil The Moron thinks that the rifle would
have had to show traces of that "burial" seven months later, in
NOVEMBER of 1963.
I love it when Gil starts talking. It makes the house so much more
alive (because of the boisterous laughter that always follows a
Gilbert posting).
Gil Jesus
>
> The HSCA examined this matter in the seventies Gil.
>
> Why didn't you cite that?
GLADLY
"The FBI was unable, however, to link the bullet fired at General
Walker with the rifle,"
( 1 HSCA 443 )
" The shot taken at General Walker was referred to several times
during the public hearings as being fired by Oswald. This is a
terribly misleading assumption.
It is still questionable whether the Mannlicher-Carcano can be linked
to Oswald, But even if it was his, it could not have fired the Walker
bullet." Oswald's alleged rifle fired 6.5-ram ammunition, copper
jacketed while the Walker bullet was a steel jacketed 30.06.
Oswald has never been linked with another rifle during that period of
time."
( 6 HSCA 296 )
".....the Warren Commission obtained the bullet recovered by the
Dallas police after an attempted assault on General Walker in dallas
on April 10, 1963. It was delivered to the FBI laboratory on December
4, 1963, for analysis. Although the Commission concluded that Oswald
fired the bullet, the FBI laboratory could not conclusively identify
it with the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle."
( 7 HSCA "Report of the Firearms Panel" pg. 356 )
"Regarding the bullet fired at General Walker, the FBI was unable to
identify it with the rifle found on the sixth floor of the depository
due to its mutilated condition.."
( ibid. )
" The panel concluded that because of the damage to CE 573 caused by
impact and penetration, it could not be identified or eliminated as
having been fired from the CE 139 rifle."
( ibid,, pg 370 )
tomnln
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Here ya go, Tommy:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/14e728331bd37f5d
Got any explanation, tomnln?
QUOTE ON:
Regards,
QUOTE OFF
QUOTE ON:
QUOTE OFF
Awaiting your reply, tomnln.
Regards,
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Apparently you missed the original DPD report that the /Walker bullet was
"steel jacketed of unknown caliber".
Appaerntly you missed the metallurgical report showing a Gigantic difference
between the Walker bullet & the 6.5 ammo !
NOT surprising for someone like you who believes that Oswald was.....
5 foot 3 inches tall
Blond Haired
119 pounds
In Mexico City>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
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Gil Jesus
> >>> "Was there dirt or soil found on or in the rifle by the FBI when they examined it on 11/23/63?" <<<
>
> Typical kooky question being put forth by a kook.
>
> Oswald buries his rifle in some unknown area (and in a totally-unknown
> fashion) in APRIL 1963, and Gil The Moron thinks that the rifle would
> have had to show traces of that "burial" seven months later, in
> NOVEMBER of 1963.
Was any gun-cleaning equipment or material found by police among
Oswald's possessions, David ?
Yes or No ?
tims...@gmail.com
Hi Gilly,
Say, it would be hard to put it better than DVP put it:
QUOTE ON:
Typical kooky question being put forth by a kook.
Oswald buries his rifle in some unknown area (and in a totally-unknown
fashion) in APRIL 1963, and Gil The Moron thinks that the rifle would
have had to show traces of that "burial" seven months later, in
NOVEMBER of 1963.
I love it when Gil starts talking. It makes the house so much more
alive (because of the boisterous laughter that always follows a
Gilbert posting).
QUOTE OFF
Between April and November is a long time, Gil. Plenty of time for
Ozzie to clean his rifle. Didn't he extensively dry fire it when he
was in New Orleans?
BTW, Marina Oswald said Walker was wounded as well? Great! We'll add
that to the list.
Regards,
Tim
tims...@gmail.com
LOL! Hey, Gil, why have you suddenly veered off from discussion of
identification of the rifle to discussion of the bullet fired at
Walker?
The conversation was about identification of the weapon Oswald is
holding in the backyard photos by the HSCA.
Once again you run, Gil.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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tims...@gmail.com
LOL! Hey, tomnln, you're just as bad as Gil.
The conversation was about my claim that Walker was wounded in the
shooting and why this led to your claiming that I knew nothing about
the Walker shooting incident.
Going off on some tangent about the steel jacketed bullet fails to
address the issue at hand.
Why did you, tomnln, claim I knew nothing about the Walker shooting
incident when I said that Walker was wounded in that incident?
The evidence/testimony clearly shows that he was injured, so why did
you make that statement?
Time for your explanation, tomnln.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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On Dec 1, 3:23 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> <timst...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > year>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/PROVEN%20LIES.htmhttp://whokilledjfk.net/CASE...
Gil Jesus
> identification of the rifle to discussion of the bullet fired at
> Walker?
>
> The conversation was about identification of the weapon Oswald is
> holding in the backyard photos by the HSCA.
>
> Once again you run, Gil.
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REPOST OF REPLY ABOUT ID OF RIFLE
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Mr. EISENBERG. Now, Mr. Shaneyfelt, ---have you formed an opinion
concerning whether Exhibit 139, the rifle used in the assassination,
is the same or similar to the rifle pictured in Exhibit 133A?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; I have.
Mr. EISENBERG. Can you give us that opinion?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes; I compared the actual rifle with the photograph,
Exhibit 133A, and with the photographs that I prepared from Exhibit
133A, as well as the other simulated photograph and the photograph of
the rifle, attempting to establish whether or not it could be
determined whether it was or was not the same.
I found it to be the same general configuration. All appearances were
the same. I found no differences. I DID NOT FIND ANY REALLY SPECIFIC
PECULIARITIES ON WHICH I COULD BASE A POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION TO THE
EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER RIFLES of the same general configuration.
I did find one notch in the stock at this point that appears very
faintly in the photograph, but it is NOT SUFFICIENT TO WARRANT
POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION.
( 4 H 281 )
GOT THAT TIMMY ? ....NO POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION TO THE EXCLUSION OF
ALL OTHER RIFLES.
Now, how do you translate that testimony into their being one and the
same rifle ?
tims...@gmail.com
Hey, Gilly, you went back to the WC on this issue, when I already
stated that the HSCA had done some work on whether the rifle Oswald
was holding in the backyard photos is the same as the one found at the
TSBD.
You use every little subterfuge and dodge to avoid the bleeding
obvious, don't you Gil?
You've been shown to be a complete idiot over the issue of whether
Walker was wounded, haven't you Gil? And a liar to boot.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
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