LHO's activities during the month of November .. leading up to the shooting..
No sir I didnt shoot anybody and I request a lawyer
etc. I would guess there isnt
much.
bail...@gmail.com
his life. He had gotten his temporary job at the TSBD on October 16th.
Interestingly enough, the TSBD was hiring for 2 different locations.
The Dealey Plaza location as well as a satellite location in N. Dallas.
At the discretion of Roy Truley, Oswald could have worked at either
one. Despite getting this temporary position, Oswald was still looking
for a permanent position even using the resources of the state of
Texas. He had registered with the Texas Department of Employment. It
should be mentioned that the application for employment filled out by
Oswald was full of lies. He had told of being honorably discharged
from the Marines, an obvious lie. He stated he had never been
arrested, another obvious lie. He said he was a high school graduate,
one more lie. This pattern of lying continued until the day Oswald was
killed by Ruby. As for the remainder of Oswald time, he was living in
a boarding house on N. Beckley. The boarding house had only one phone
for all living there. When the phone rang, that individual was then
responsible for locating the callee. The people in the boarding house
were interviewed by the FBI after the assassination. Those interviewed
reportedly told the FBI that Oswald had exhibited no unusual behavior.
Outside of going to and from work, Oswald spent his time in his room.
More importantly, they also told the FBI Oswald never received any
phone calls and they recall he only made one call and that was to
Marina. One believing in conspiracy would think that were Oswald
complicit in any conspiracy to kill JFK that communication of some type
would be necessary in the days and weeks leading up to 11/22. That
does not appear to be the case.
On Jan 26, 5:50 pm, "No sir I didnt shoot anybody and I request a
tomnln
On Saturday evening November 23, 1963 Oswald made a call to someone named
John Hunt in Raleigh N. C.
John Hunt admitted he was connected to U S Intelligence.
be WARY of baileynme>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
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knows it!!!!
I'm going to give you a gracious change Nutsacks to get out of what you
just typed. If you don't I will ONCE AGAIN make a total fool of you.
And as usual, that is sooooo easy to do.
On Jan 26, 6:45 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> As Usual, bailey leaves out Important information.
>
> On Saturday evening November 23, 1963 Oswald made a call to someone named
> John Hunt in Raleigh N. C.
>
> John Hunt admitted he was connected to U S Intelligence.
>
> be WARY of baileynme>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
>
> <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169852745.3...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
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paulus
> > >> much.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
FROM PAULUS - England
Dear Mr America ; the one who was asking those 35
questions..................
I AM LEE HARVEY OSWALD
1. I am determined to assassinate John F Kennedy. For reasons yet to be
identified.
2. I am a 'nutter'.
3. Nobody, up to the assassination of JFK has ever described me as a
'nutter', but posterity has intervened and found me so.
4. I am an experienced political activist. Who coloured my political
thinking?, from where did it stem? How did I pay my way from day to
day?
5. I have had military training in the US Marine Corps.
6. Where was I stationed?
7. I have a pretty basic 'marksman's badge from the Marine Corps.
8. I am a better marksman than any CIA operator or shooter.
9. I am a better marksman than any FBI shooter.
10. I am a better marksman than the nation / government can call upon
to duplicate my 'under supreme stress' performance.
11. I chose a cheap Italian rifle, with doubtful sights, rather than a
good quality one.
12. I wanted to be photographed with a rifle and pistol to leave it
behind for the authorities to find to prove I was a potential assassin
13. I was a defector who went to the Soviet Union.
14. I am not sure how many ex-marines were defectors who had worked on
sensitive military placements.
15. I am not sure how many US Citizens, or even 'nutters', defected
to the USSR.
16. I am not sure if any were ever refused entry back into the USA.
17. I have travelled to USSR.- Don't ask me how was the trip funded
18. I have lived in the USSR.- Did I save any money? What were my
wages/salary?
19. I am married to a Russian woman. How did I pay for the wedding?
20. I paid for my wife and myself to travel back to America.
21. I was allowed back into the USA.because I was no threat.
22. I was allowed back into the USA, without let or hindrance, even
though I had decried the Administration and the country.
23. I had enough funds for this from my salary in the Soviet Union.
24. I have travelled to Cuba. Don't ask me where I found the funds or
where I stayed.
25. I have travelled to Mexico. How did I fund the trip?
26. I was a 'skint-merchant' but travelled more, and to more
places, than 95% of the American people.
27. I have been to other parts of Europe. How did I fund the trip?
28. I had money to pay for rooming.
29. I had money to pay for two households...from?
30. I had money to do all these things from working for it? In between
planning to assassinate the President.
31. My salary at the TSBD was ?
32. I have appeared on US Radio Programmes, not many 'nutters'
achieve that distinction. How long did I stay in New Orleans; who paid?
33. I am quite articulate when I speak. I am certainly not a dummy.
34. I can answer questions lucidly and sensibly under quizzing by
experienced reporters, listen to my radio broadcast.
35. I had assistance and support in New Orleans; who was it that worked
with me?
36. I didn't know Jack Ruby - nor had never met the mobster.
37. I didn't know David Ferrie
38. I didn't know anyone in the FBI
39. I didn't know anyone in the CIA
40. I didn't know any Cuban extremists.
41. I was not known to the FBI.
42. I was not known to the CIA
43. I hated JFK so much that I couldn't stop talking about it(?)
44. I went to Dallas on ?
45. I started work where?
46. Did I try for or apply for other jobs before I got the TSBD?
47. I was assisted in finding a job by my landlady, and happened to
find one, out of a few choices, at the TSBD.
48. I heard of JFK's trip to Dallas when?
49. I heard of his route, when?
50. I had a store of ammunition?
51. I knew it was an open-top vehicle, How?
52. I decided to assassinate him from the TSBD.
53. I am a fairly good planner of trips around the world, and proven
that competence clearly.
54. I decided to use the 6th Floor of the TSBD , it was an ideal place
especially with the tree in the way?
55. When ?
56. I didn't bother to plan my escape, even though I only had very
limited 'window' of escape.
57. I didn't bother to have a place to hide the rifle.
58. I didn't bother to pick up the spent shells.
59. When making my desperate escape, I offered my 'escape' cab to a
lady, who was going shopping, in deference to my urgent need to flee
the scene of my assassination of JFK.
60. Whilst in custody in the DPD I was so worried about my arrest I
asked my family to make sure my baby daughter got a new pair of shoes
that she needed.
61. Whilst in custody I told the Dallas Police I was not the assassin
but they never put any of my interrogation down or recorded it. I guess
they considered that they all had good memories, sufficient to get me
proven guilty?.
62. I was so pleased that the Dallas Police kindly offered me up for
'execution' by a mobster.
63. I made sure I had enough money on me to make a great get-away; I
had twelve dollars on my person.
64. The WC got a little weary of the whole investigation, so they
decided not to call certain witnesses who could have confounded the
evidence given to them by the CIA & FBI.
65. To speed things up to come to a positive conclusion, they decided
not to interview people who could have served in my defence.
66. This, of course, is common practice in American Courts and in the
judiciary.
67. The WC were not able to allow the American people to see the
evidence on which they based their decision.
68. After 40 odd years and successive governments, the position remains
the same. Vital evidence, which would surely convict me, is still not
allowed to be shown to the American public.public
69. A normal American Jury would be made up of '12 men and true'
but THEY never appeared, only 8-10 friends of the government and CIA ,
FBI so as to ensure 'impartiality' - I think?
IF YOU HAVE MANAGED TO GET THIS FAR, ASK ME AND I WILL EXTEND MY LIST
FOR YOUR PERU
tomnln
Is this your Denial that on the evening of 11/23/63 Oswald called John Hunt
in Raleigh N C???
WHO is baileynme?>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
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you are not only a raging idiot but you simply have NO clue what you're
talking about. Let me educate you Nutsacks and AGAIN prove how you
will lie and deceive anybody:
There were 2 John Hurt's in N. Carolina. John W. Hurt and John D.
Hurt. Both of these Hurts were interviewed by the HSCA in 1978. Both
testified they never heard of LHO until 11/22/63 but that isn't the
point. You still however posted the following:
John Hunt admitted he was connected to U S Intelligence.
Now, either you're simply ignorant of the fact OR you again
INTENTIONALLY tried to deceive this forum. John D. Hurt was in
Counterintelligence for the U.S. Army in 1943! 20 years before the
assassination when LHO was 4 years old. So, you either once again
lacked the knowledge of the subject material or YOU ONCE AGAIN HAVE
GOTTEN CAUGHT LYING. Nutsacks? Every time you LIE to the people on
this forum I'm gonna nail ya!!!
On Jan 26, 11:28 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> NUTSACK-SUCKER;
>
> Is this your Denial that on the evening of 11/23/63 Oswald called John Hunt
> in Raleigh N C???
>
> WHO is baileynme?>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
>
> <bailey...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169860954.5...@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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btw Nutsacks, you are so absurdly stupid, you even got the name wrong.
It's HURT, not HUNT.
And you call yourself a researcher??? I'm your worst enemy Nutsacks!!
I'm gonna nail ya EVERY single time!
tomnln
"Now, either you're simply ignorant of the fact OR you again
INTENTIONALLY tried to deceive this forum. John D. Hurt was in
Counterintelligence for the U.S. Army in 1943! 20 years before the"
You Stupid Asshole;
You just Proved my point.
You're a Criminal & you belong in Prison or, Dead.
WHY did you Lie about this?>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
You're Anti Americam Military
You're Anti-American
You're Anti Truth-Justice
You'reAnti Adversary Procedure.
http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
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tomnln
You are AFRAID to reply to these Lies>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
Proof of your Lies are HERE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/baileynme.htm
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Bud
Yah, Ozzie didn`t enumerate and announce his reasons. Many
murderers do not.
> 2. I am a 'nutter'.
Whatever that means. Oz was like a lot of sad chracters who spend a
lot of time alone (Chapman, Hinkley, Ben Holmes), they tend to create
little realities of their own.
> 3. Nobody, up to the assassination of JFK has ever described me as a
> 'nutter', but posterity has intervened and found me so.
Many people remarked on Oz being strange. Many people who knew him
thought he was mixed up in the assassination even before they knew his
rifle was used. They could figure it out without fingerprints and
witnesses, the kooks can`t do it with all that information.
> 4. I am an experienced political activist. Who coloured my political
> thinking?, from where did it stem? How did I pay my way from day to
> day?
With money. And Oz`s fascination with extreme left-wing poitics can
be traced back to his ten years. You know, if you got Jean Daxison`s
book on Oswald, you wouldn`t be so clueless on these issues.
> 5. I have had military training in the US Marine Corps.
Yah. Dishonarably discharged. Problems with authority, prone to
violence, doesn`t work and play well with others. These traits only
make good operativess in Bond movies.
> 6. Where was I stationed?
Japan, for one.
> 7. I have a pretty basic 'marksman's badge from the Marine Corps.
Yah, Oz was trained to shoot by professionals.
> 8. I am a better marksman than any CIA operator or shooter.
> 9. I am a better marksman than any FBI shooter.
Who says he needed to be to make the shots that killed Kennedy?
> 10. I am a better marksman than the nation / government can call upon
> to duplicate my 'under supreme stress' performance.
Who says they were trying to duplicate Oz`s shots? Did anyone
duplicate Ruby`s shot?
> 11. I chose a cheap Italian rifle, with doubtful sights, rather than a
> good quality one.
Which shows he was a poor man on a budget, and not the man working
for powerful forces the kooks imagine.
> 12. I wanted to be photographed with a rifle and pistol to leave it
> behind for the authorities to find to prove I was a potential assassin
To listen to kooks tell it, the photo doesn`t implicate Oz at all.
But, Oz might have figured that if the cops were going through his
possessions, he was caught red-handed or dead anyway.
> 13. I was a defector who went to the Soviet Union.
Yah, he was dissatisfied with the politics of his own country. JFK
was the head of the country he was dissatisfied with, Help you any?
> 14. I am not sure how many ex-marines were defectors who had worked on
> sensitive military placements.
Whatever that means.
> 15. I am not sure how many US Citizens, or even 'nutters', defected
> to the USSR.
That information might be available. Look it up.
> 16. I am not sure if any were ever refused entry back into the USA.
You are not sure of a lot.
> 17. I have travelled to USSR.- Don't ask me how was the trip funded
> 18. I have lived in the USSR.- Did I save any money? What were my
> wages/salary?
> 19. I am married to a Russian woman. How did I pay for the wedding?
Obviously, if you can`t document any money Oz has ever spent, then
he must have got that money from shadowy sources.
> 20. I paid for my wife and myself to travel back to America.
Got a loan from the US embassy.
> 21. I was allowed back into the USA.because I was no threat.
Got allowed back in the US because he was still a US citizen.
> 22. I was allowed back into the USA, without let or hindrance, even
> though I had decried the Administration and the country.
People leave this country and return every day. Many badmouth Bush,
his policies, this country.
> 23. I had enough funds for this from my salary in the Soviet Union.
Loan.
> 24. I have travelled to Cuba. Don't ask me where I found the funds or
> where I stayed.
Huh?
> 25. I have travelled to Mexico. How did I fund the trip?
Money.
> 26. I was a 'skint-merchant' but travelled more, and to more
> places, than 95% of the American people.
Selling skints is more lucrative than you might think.
> 27. I have been to other parts of Europe. How did I fund the trip?
Money.
> 28. I had money to pay for rooming.
> 29. I had money to pay for two households...from?
What was Oz paying Mrs Paine?
> 30. I had money to do all these things from working for it? In between
> planning to assassinate the President.
Yah, he only worked 40 hours, left a lot of time for ploting. He
may also have done some plotting at work.
> 31. My salary at the TSBD was ?
Peanuts.
> 32. I have appeared on US Radio Programmes, not many 'nutters'
> achieve that distinction. How long did I stay in New Orleans; who paid?
Get Jean`s book "Oswald`s Game".
> 33. I am quite articulate when I speak. I am certainly not a dummy.
Also clever and cunning. Brave. Cold blooded.
> 34. I can answer questions lucidly and sensibly under quizzing by
> experienced reporters, listen to my radio broadcast.
Yah, listen to the extreme political viewpoints he is promoting.
The answers to most below can be easily found. I`ll address afew, the
rest you can look up.
> 35. I had assistance and support in New Orleans; who was it that worked
> with me?
> 36. I didn't know Jack Ruby - nor had never met the mobster.
> 37. I didn't know David Ferrie
> 38. I didn't know anyone in the FBI
> 39. I didn't know anyone in the CIA
> 40. I didn't know any Cuban extremists.
> 41. I was not known to the FBI.
> 42. I was not known to the CIA
> 43. I hated JFK so much that I couldn't stop talking about it(?)
> 44. I went to Dallas on ?
> 45. I started work where?
> 46. Did I try for or apply for other jobs before I got the TSBD?
> 47. I was assisted in finding a job by my landlady, and happened to
> find one, out of a few choices, at the TSBD.
> 48. I heard of JFK's trip to Dallas when?
> 49. I heard of his route, when?
> 50. I had a store of ammunition?
> 51. I knew it was an open-top vehicle, How?
Who said Oz knew?
> 52. I decided to assassinate him from the TSBD.
It would have been more difficult getting his rifle into the
surrounding buildings.
> 53. I am a fairly good planner of trips around the world, and proven
> that competence clearly.
> 54. I decided to use the 6th Floor of the TSBD , it was an ideal place
> especially with the tree in the way?
Apparently the tree wasn`t that big a hinderance.
> 55. When ?
> 56. I didn't bother to plan my escape, even though I only had very
> limited 'window' of escape.
Are you saying he didn`t plan his escape because he had little
chance to escape?
> 57. I didn't bother to have a place to hide the rifle.
> 58. I didn't bother to pick up the spent shells.
> 59. When making my desperate escape, I offered my 'escape' cab to a
> lady, who was going shopping, in deference to my urgent need to flee
> the scene of my assassination of JFK.
According to Fritz`s interview of Oz, it was the cab driver,
Whaley, that offered the cab to the woman. In any case, would going to
another cab significantly effect his escape at that point? He was
clear of the TSBD, and not at a place anyone would look for him.
> 60. Whilst in custody in the DPD I was so worried about my arrest I
> asked my family to make sure my baby daughter got a new pair of shoes
> that she needed.
Small talk for a supposedly innocent guy who claims he was shown
doctored photograpgh of him holding the murder weapon.
> 61. Whilst in custody I told the Dallas Police I was not the assassin
> but they never put any of my interrogation down or recorded it. I guess
> they considered that they all had good memories, sufficient to get me
> proven guilty?.
Fritz kept notes, as did some of the others. The object is to get
as much information from the suspect as possible, and worry about the
people who choose not to believe that information later.
> 62. I was so pleased that the Dallas Police kindly offered me up for
> 'execution' by a mobster.
I liked that look of pleasure on Oz`s face.
> 63. I made sure I had enough money on me to make a great get-away; I
> had twelve dollars on my person.
Left a bit with Marina. I guess he didn`t think it was enough to
bribe any cops who caught him.
> 64. The WC got a little weary of the whole investigation, so they
> decided not to call certain witnesses who could have confounded the
> evidence given to them by the CIA & FBI.
Unless they were present on the 6th floor of the TSBD at 12:30, it
isn`t likely they could ofer anything useful.
> 65. To speed things up to come to a positive conclusion, they decided
> not to interview people who could have served in my defence.
Thats "defense", limey. Oz needed an alibi, do you see any
witnesses that weren`t called to testify supplying one for him?
> 66. This, of course, is common practice in American Courts and in the
> judiciary.
But this was a different animal.
> 67. The WC were not able to allow the American people to see the
> evidence on which they based their decision.
They hid it by publishing it.
> 68. After 40 odd years and successive governments, the position remains
> the same. Vital evidence, which would surely convict me, is still not
> allowed to be shown to the American public.public
The American public has yet to scrutinize the evidence that is
available.
> 69. A normal American Jury would be made up of '12 men and true'
> but THEY never appeared, only 8-10 friends of the government and CIA ,
> FBI so as to ensure 'impartiality' - I think?
> IF YOU HAVE MANAGED TO GET THIS FAR, ASK ME AND I WILL EXTEND MY LIST
> FOR YOUR PERU
You could have eliminated around 40 of them by just reading Jean
Davison`s book.
David Von Pein
Exactly, Bud.
I guess the CTers who believe that Oswald was working for the CIA or
FBI (or whoever) also must believe that Oswald hid every last dime he
ever made as an "insider with the Agency"....because he sure as heck
wasn't living high on any type of hog that I could see. Not even
close. And the Warren Commission obviously never found any of that CIA
stash of Oswald's either.
The bum couldn't even support his wife and infant daughters. They had
to sponge off of other people for months at a time. And as far as I'm
aware, LHO never gave Ruth Paine a cent.
And Oswald, in the weeks leading up to the assassination, had to live
in an $8-a-week closet-sized room at a roominghouse, surrounded by
several other tenants. (A great atmosphere for "plotting" with his
fellow conspirators, huh?)
Do CIA operatives usually have to live in virtual poverty (in rooms
the size of shoeboxes)?
Great CIA gig there, huh?
The WC examined, in great detail, Lee Oswald's finances for the last
1.5 years of his life, and they came within $19 of balancing Oswald's
cash exactly.
Granted, the WC's figures re. LHO's cash situation included many
"estimations"; but they were all consistent monthly estimates,
allowing exactly $100 per month (for most months) for "food, clothing,
and incidental expenses".
On Page 745 of the Warren Report, we find the bottom-line estimate of
the WC's evaluation of Oswald's net worth as of November 22,
1963....and it is within $19.77 of LHO's actual "cash on hand" figure.
Per the WC detailed data, Oswald earned a not-very-hefty $3,665.89
from June 13, 1962, through November 22, 1963. His expenditures
totalled $3,501.79. Leaving a "cash on hand" balance on the day of the
assassination of $164.10 (per the WC estimates).
Oswald left $170 at the Paine house (no doubt for his wife) and he had
$13.87 on him when he was arrested. So the Commission missed the exact
figure by less than a single $20 bill.
So, if Lee was working for the CIA, he must have been doing so for
free. Or, Lee hid his CIA wealth somewhere and it's never been
discovered to this day.
http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0385a.htm
>>> "If you got Jean Davison's book on Oswald, you wouldn't be so clueless on these issues. .... Get Jean's book "Oswald's Game". .... You could have eliminated around 40 of them by just reading Jean Davison's book." <<<
I'm glad to see that Bud thinks so highly of Jean Davison's excellent
book, too. So do I. Without a doubt.....
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/9c2238388f0a72c3
Anybody who finishes reading Jean's book who then comes away with the
notion that Oswald could not possibly have been (at the very least)
heavily involved in the JFK murder is a total fool...or a moron...or a
kook (take your pick...or take all three, because they'd each apply in
such an instance).