Todd Vaughan I recently heard....
aeffects
be his Zapruder film cartoon of Elm Street events?
Todd W. Vaughan
> you assisted Dale Myers in one of his past endeavour[s]..... wouldn't
> be his Zapruder film cartoon of Elm Street events?
Tell me, David, do you really think Dales work is nothing but a
traditional 2-dimensional cartoon?
Cliff
wrote:
Dales Myers represents a curved bullet path
with a perfectly straight line and claims this is
"scientifically accurate."
Cartoons are more honest.
Todd W. Vaughan
Wow, I must have missed the "curved" bullet path.
aeffects
Todd -- actually I think Dale's work is a simulated 2d final animation
product, of a 3d (Lightwave) project based on a 2d (Zapruder Film) 8mm
film. None of which proves anything.... my opinion of course. That sum
it up? If you need a reference re my expertise concerning 3d world
<x,y,z> *y being up -- simulations ask Dave Wimp or Joe Durnavitch.
I'm sure they'll give me a glowing report, especially when it comes to
POVRAY C++ alike type code.... Having got that out of the way, did you
assist Dale in his ABC Lightwave endeavour. Simple yes or no is fine.
Tippit murder book?
Regarding Myers's Z-film project, the why? We have Lightwave 9
(certainly backward compatible with older project files) here, I'd
like to see Myer's project files and 3D topo source files, eh?
Research being what research is, some researchers would like to
confirm his statement allegeding "proof" in a very public murder! Emmy
award aside, and its fine that he won one, I applaude that -- however,
when one mentions, on (a national telecast) camera, proof concerning
some associated with a very public murder, well, some folks take
notice. Perhaps a little verification is in-store....
Don't rush with a answer re the *topo* files, I've got plenty of time
-- I'll be baby-sitting a computer rendering farm for the next few
months.
Dale can tell you what that means, if you don't know...
Cliff
Check the WC testimony of of Dr. Robert Shaw.
(quote on)
Dr. Shaw: I think we would have to postulate that
the bullet hit the rib itself by the neat way in which
it stripped the rib out without doing much damage
to the muscles that lay on either side of it...
...Mr. McCloy: Now, you have indicated, I think,
that this bullet traveled along, hit and traveled
along the path of the rib, is that right?
Dr. Shaw: Yes
(quote off)
Dr. Shaw further testified that the bullet deflected.
Dr. Charles Petty stated that JBC's internal injuries
suggested that the bullet "tunneled around the
chest wall and did not proceed in a straight line
from entrance to exit."
To claim that a perfectly straight line is a
"scientifically accurate" representation of a
curved bullet path is intellectually indefensible.
Todd W. Vaughan
>
> - Show quoted text -
Certainly what is most important is the line up of Conally's back
wound with the path of the bullet exiting Kennedy's back/throat wound.
Once the bullet strikes bone, Connally's rib, sure, it could change
course, to include following the curve of the rib.
Cliff
Of course.
But Myers' root concept is a straight line from
point 'A' -- Connally's chest exit wound -- to
Point 'B' -- Connally's back exit wound.
Myers arbitrarily drew a straight line from
Point 'A' to Point 'B' and found that at Z223
that straight line went thru JFK up to the
6th Fl snipers nest.
But there was NO straight line thru JBC,
the bullet followed the rib and then deflected.
Myers whole concept is based on a fallacy.
Cliff
Correction:
"Connally's back entrance wound"
Todd W. Vaughan
Cliff,
Sorry, but you've completely misrepresented what Myers did.
Myers only used Kennedy's back/throat wound and Connally's back wound.
Go to....
http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/concl2.htm
...where you'll find the following:
QUOTE ON
To determine the source of the shots, the point of entrance on the
President's upper-right back was connected to the exit wound in his
throat with a straight line to represent the trajectory path of the
bullet through JFK's upper body.
Extending that trajectory line forward shows that a bullet passing
through the President's upper-right back and throat, at the equivalent
of Zapruder frame 223, would go on to strike Governor Connally in the
right shoulder just behind the armpit -- the precise location where
the entrance wound in JBC's body was located.
In order to exit just below JBC's right nipple (based on JBC's
position at Zapruder frame 223); the bullet would have to then follow
a slightly altered course after entering the Governor's body --
shifting 13 degrees to the right and 1 degree upward from the original
trajectory line.
In an anatomically erect position (i.e., not the position JBC was in
at Z223), the trajectory path of the bullet was found to pass through
JBC at an angle of about 24.5 degrees downward, and about 23.5 degrees
right to left. The downward trajectory compares favorably with Dr.
Shaw's measurement of 25 degrees during testimony before the Warren
Commission. (4H137) The right to left trajectory is slightly higher
than the FBI's rough estimate of 20 degrees, inferred from a
measurement of the holes in JBC's suit jacket. (CD827)
The possibility that the bullet changed course after hitting the
Governor (a rather common phenomenon) has been debated before by
experts. Dr. Charles S. Petty, stated that JBC's internal injuries
suggested that the bullet "tunneled around the chest wall and did not
proceed in a straight line from entrance to exit." (Petty thought that
the injuries to JBC's right lung were caused by bone fragments blasted
out by the passing bullet.)
However, the majority of HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel members
disagree. They said that they would have expected a comparable missile
to pass from entrance to exit in a fairly straight line, adding that
they didn't feel that the surgeon could have known whether the injury
to JBC's lung was caused by the bullet or by rib fragments alone.
(7HSCA150)
In the end, the medical evidence alone cannot prove, nor disprove,
that the bullet changed course after striking JBC in the back.
QUOTE OFF
Fret not though, Cliff, you should find some solace in the fact that
your misrepresentations have now been corrected.
Todd
tomnln
of the Official angles given by the WCR.
See>>> http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
WHO is toad vaughan?>>> http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
Proven PAID Liar.. ALL in his own words
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Gee Todd -- you must of missed my response to your question. Here it
is again....
Todd -- actually I think Dale's work is a simulated 2d final animation
product, of a 3d (Lightwave) project based on a 2d (Zapruder Film) 8mm
film. None of which proves anything.... my opinion of course. That sum
it up? If you need a reference re my expertise concerning 3d world
<x,y,z> *y being up -- simulations ask Dave Wimp or Joe Durnavitch.
I'm sure they'll give me a glowing report, especially when it comes to
POVRAY C++ alike type code.... Having got that out of the way, did you
assist Dale in his ABC Lightwave endeavour. Simple yes or no is fine.
Tippit murder book?
Regarding Myers's Z-film project, the why? We have Lightwave 9
(certainly backward compatible with older project files) here, I'd
like to see Myer's project files and 3D topo source files, eh?
Research being what research is, some researchers would like to
confirm his statement allegeding "proof" in a very public murder! Emmy
award aside, and its fine that he won one, I applaude that -- however,
when one mentions, on (a national telecast) camera, proof concerning
some associated with a very public murder, well, some folks take
notice. Perhaps a little verification is in-store....
Don't rush with a answer re the *topo* files, I've got plenty of time
-- I'll be baby-sitting a computer rendering farm for the next few
months. Dale can tell you what that means, if you don't know...
> Todd
tomnln
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
WHO is toad vaughan?>>> http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
PAID LIAR, all in his own words.
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tomnln
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/single_bullet.htm
Your LIES are documented HERE>>>
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
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Todd W. Vaughan
No, you're wrong.
I didn't miss it at all.
I was reading it and preparing an answer, as well as doing the same
for Cliff.
Sorry about your impatience issue.
>
> Todd -- actually I think Dale's work is a simulated 2d final animation
> product, of a 3d (Lightwave) project based on a 2d (Zapruder Film) 8mm
> film. None of which proves anything.... my opinion of course. That sum
> it up? If you need a reference re my expertise concerning 3d world
> <x,y,z> *y being up -- simulations ask Dave Wimp or Joe Durnavitch.
> I'm sure they'll give me a glowing report, especially when it comes to
> POVRAY C++ alike type code.... Having got that out of the way, did you
> assist Dale in his ABC Lightwave endeavour. Simple yes or no is fine.
> Tippit murder book?
"ABC Lightwave endeavour" - no.
With Malice - read the acknolwedgments page.
>
> Regarding Myers's Z-film project, the why? We have Lightwave 9
> (certainly backward compatible with older project files) here, I'd
> like to see Myer's project files and 3D topo source files, eh?
> Research being what research is, some researchers would like to
> confirm his statement allegeding "proof" in a very public murder! Emmy
> award aside, and its fine that he won one, I applaude that -- however,
> when one mentions, on (a national telecast) camera, proof concerning
> some associated with a very public murder, well, some folks take
> notice. Perhaps a little verification is in-store....
Still at half speed I see, turtle.
His work was verified. Perhaps during all your "research" you missed
this
http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/zaxis.htm
>
> Don't rush with a answer re the *topo* files, I've got plenty of time
Why would you even ask ME about YOUR obtaining HIS files? They are HIS
files, not MINE!
I suggest you contact him (why that idea didn't occurr to you is
beyond me).
You can do that right here http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/anim.htm
> -- I'll be baby-sitting a computer rendering farm for the next few
> months. Dale can tell you what that means, if you don't know...
I'm well aware of what a "computer rendering farm" is.
Enjoy the baby-sitting. Tey not to break anything, huh.
>
>
>
> > Todd
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Cliff
Todd,
I completely represented what Myers did in his
1995 "Research Edition" of "Secrets of Homicide."
I refer you to the section called:
"TRAJECTORY OF THE JBC CHEST WOUND
Zapruder frame 223"
That is what I was basing my critique upon.
I stand corrected on his current methodology.
Thanks for catching me up.
I see that he's pimping the same non sequitur
you all do:
1) The SBT requires 2+" of JFK shirt and jacket
to ride up in tandem entirely above the C7/T1
SBT inshoot.
2) JFK's jacket shows fabric "bunching."
3) Therefore, JFK's shirt and jacket were
elevated 2+" at the time of the shooting.
aeffects
no need being sorry, I'm not impatient at all, quite the opposite, I
have lots of time....
>
> > Todd -- actually I think Dale's work is a simulated 2d final animation
> > product, of a 3d (Lightwave) project based on a 2d (Zapruder Film) 8mm
> > film. None of which proves anything.... my opinion of course. That sum
> > it up? If you need a reference re my expertise concerning 3d world
> > <x,y,z> *y being up -- simulations ask Dave Wimp or Joe Durnavitch.
> > I'm sure they'll give me a glowing report, especially when it comes to
> > POVRAY C++ alike type code.... Having got that out of the way, did you
> > assist Dale in his ABC Lightwave endeavour. Simple yes or no is fine.
> > Tippit murder book?
>
> "ABC Lightwave endeavour" - no.
>
> With Malice - read the acknolwedgments page.
>
you're one of the Myer's: Tippit go-to guy's, eh?
>
> > Regarding Myers's Z-film project, the why? We have Lightwave 9
> > (certainly backward compatible with older project files) here, I'd
> > like to see Myer's project files and 3D topo source files, eh?
> > Research being what research is, some researchers would like to
> > confirm his statement allegeding "proof" in a very public murder! Emmy
> > award aside, and its fine that he won one, I applaude that -- however,
> > when one mentions, on (a national telecast) camera, proof concerning
> > some associated with a very public murder, well, some folks take
> > notice. Perhaps a little verification is in-store....
>
> Still at half speed I see, turtle.
nah, just warming to the subject
> His work was verified. Perhaps during all your "research" you missed
> this
well THAT is interesting -- who *peer* verified his work? I'd love a
link, especially if the review included his Lightwave source files....
> http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/zaxis.htm
>
>
>
> > Don't rush with a answer re the *topo* files, I've got plenty of time
>
> Why would you even ask ME about YOUR obtaining HIS files? They are HIS
> files, not MINE!
hey, you support his work, know him, you've worked with him, who
better to ask? For the record, I'm not the least bit impressed he won
a Emmy and btw, who nominated/submitted his name for that award? Live
a little, Todd. Step to the "wild side", eh?
> I suggest you contact him (why that idea didn't occurr to you is
> beyond me).
>
> You can do that right herehttp://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/anim.htm
why -- he's untouchable that's why -- Invite him here, I'll ask my
questions and make my requests right here in front of GOD (and a
lately oversused term) the "Kleig" lights....
Todd W. Vaughan
Then why are you so impatient?
>
>
>
> > > Todd -- actually I think Dale's work is a simulated 2d final animation
> > > product, of a 3d (Lightwave) project based on a 2d (Zapruder Film) 8mm
> > > film. None of which proves anything.... my opinion of course. That sum
> > > it up? If you need a reference re my expertise concerning 3d world
> > > <x,y,z> *y being up -- simulations ask Dave Wimp or Joe Durnavitch.
> > > I'm sure they'll give me a glowing report, especially when it comes to
> > > POVRAY C++ alike type code.... Having got that out of the way, did you
> > > assist Dale in his ABC Lightwave endeavour. Simple yes or no is fine.
> > > Tippit murder book?
>
> > "ABC Lightwave endeavour" - no.
>
> > With Malice - read the acknolwedgments page.
>
> you're one of the Myer's: Tippit go-to guy's, eh?
Hardly.
Do you have the book?
>
>
>
> > > Regarding Myers's Z-film project, the why? We have Lightwave 9
> > > (certainly backward compatible with older project files) here, I'd
> > > like to see Myer's project files and 3D topo source files, eh?
> > > Research being what research is, some researchers would like to
> > > confirm his statement allegeding "proof" in a very public murder! Emmy
> > > award aside, and its fine that he won one, I applaude that -- however,
> > > when one mentions, on (a national telecast) camera, proof concerning
> > > some associated with a very public murder, well, some folks take
> > > notice. Perhaps a little verification is in-store....
>
> > Still at half speed I see, turtle.
>
> nah, just warming to the subject
Warming at half-speed then, idle if you will.
>
> > His work was verified. Perhaps during all your "research" you missed
> > this
>
> well THAT is interesting -- who *peer* verified his work? I'd love a
> link, especially if the review included his Lightwave source files....
>
> >http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/zaxis.htm
>
> > > Don't rush with a answer re the *topo* files, I've got plenty of time
>
> > Why would you even ask ME about YOUR obtaining HIS files? They are HIS
> > files, not MINE!
>
> hey, you support his work, know him, you've worked with him, who
> better to ask?
Him.
>For the record, I'm not the least bit impressed he won
> a Emmy and btw, who nominated/submitted his name for that award? Live
> a little, Todd. Step to the "wild side", eh?
Let me guess...YOU have an Emmy too!
>
> > I suggest you contact him (why that idea didn't occurr to you is
> > beyond me).
>
> > You can do that right herehttp://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/anim.htm
>
> why -- he's untouchable that's why -- Invite him here, I'll ask my
> questions and make my requests right here in front of GOD (and a
> lately oversused term) the "Kleig" lights....
You have his email address.
Use it.
David Von Pein
==============================================
>>> "Certainly what is most important is the line up of Connally's back wound with the path of the bullet exiting Kennedy's back/throat wound." <<<
I agree 100%, and was thinking the same exact thing before ever
reading Todd's post above.
Since it's almost 100% certain that John Connally was hit by just ONE
bullet, once Dale Myers' Z-Film-based computer animation gets that one
bullet (which HAD to be CE399, without a shred of a doubt for obvious
reasons) from JFK's throat and into Connally's back (which Myers
does)....
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/images/SOH_1061.jpg
....then the remainder of the trajectory line through Connally's body
takes care of itself and is not overly important with respect to the
main controversy at hand, i.e., whether the SAME bullet hit both
victims.
But, actually, if you'll look at Dale Myers' website re. the
trajectory line through Connally, the red line on the sample images
STOPS at Connally's back. The line isn't being drawn all the way
through Connally. Because drawing the line all the way THROUGH
Connally isn't really necessary to the "lining" up of JFK & JBC with
respect to proving the SBT bullet path.
The three initial wounds are the important ones to "connect" to make
the SBT work -- JFK's back wound, JFK's throat wound, and JBC's back
wound.
But Dale does forthrightly discuss the possibility of the bullet
changing direction inside JBC's body on this webpage....
http://jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/concl2.htm
But the critical controversy of whether that single bullet could have
touched all three of those initial wounding points on the two victims
is totally solved via Dale's exacting animation overlays and Key
Framing -- and Dale's computer model (based on the Z-Film itself for
the most part, remember) positively supports ONE single bullet
transiting both men.
And what are the odds of Dale being able to come anywhere NEAR such a
single-bullet conclusion via his animation work if THREE bullets had
actually struck both victims (or two even)?
Talk about your incredibly-lucky SBT-imitating snipers! Three guys
shoot up two men in such a way so that a ONE-bullet theory can be
proposed after the event to account for THREE different shots/bullets.
That's just...let's face it....crazy (and virtually impossible).
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/0b30398a449c05b7
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no need to guess, Todd... Myers and I have more than one thing in
common -- who was the nominating party?
>
> > > I suggest you contact him (why that idea didn't occurr to you is
> > > beyond me).
>
> > > You can do that right herehttp://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/anim.htm
>
> > why -- he's untouchable that's why -- Invite him here, I'll ask my
> > questions and make my requests right here in front of GOD (and a
> > lately oversused term) the "Kleig" lights....
>
> You have his email address.
>
> Use it.
>
>
>
> > > > -- I'll be baby-sitting a computer rendering farm for the next few
> > > > months. Dale can tell you what that means, if you don't know...
>
> > > I'm well aware of what a "computer rendering farm" is.
>
> > > Enjoy the baby-sitting. Tey not to break anything, huh.
>
> > > > > Todd
>
> ...
>
> read more ยป
tomnln
PAID Liar all in his own words.
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tomnln
toad vaughan Helped hoim make it.
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Todd W. Vaughan
Then congrats on your Emmy. I'm sure you deserved it and did a
wondeful job earning it.
I have no idea what the nomination process is, and no idea how Dale
was nominated. Again, I'd suggest asking him.
BTW, you never answered, do you have With Malice?
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > I suggest you contact him (why that idea didn't occurr to you is
> > > > beyond me).
>
> > > > You can do that right herehttp://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/anim.htm
>
> > > why -- he's untouchable that's why
>
> ...
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Todd W. Vaughan
Nice analysis, David.
David Von Pein
Thank you. I thought so too. ~wink~
Additional DVP SBT CS&L. (Why more CTers can't see the logicality in
this still baffles me.).....
aeffects
never got past nomination[s] -- read: never won :)
> I have no idea what the nomination process is, and no idea how Dale
> was nominated. Again, I'd suggest asking him.
more cases than not, the producers, I suspect in Myers case, ABC. Only
requirement is the program/piece *aired* the preceding year
> BTW, you never answered, do you have With Malice?
no I don't..... tell you why, a few years back I stopped in Dallas,
made my way to Dealey Plaza, drove to Oswald's boarding house, then
followed LHO's excursion that day [via map, on foot] to the Tippit
shooting scene, then on to the theater. I determined Oswald could not
of made the Tippit crime scene in the time alloted. Couple that with
conflicting eyewitness accounts, descriptions, viewing distances,
revolver versus automatic, shell casings....nah, to me the Tippit
killing was an unfortunate (for Tippit) convenient diversion/
deflection to the JFK's Dealey Plaza assassination.
I'd of preferred to take that Dallas walking excursion along with a
Tippit case related homicide detective, homicide detectives have a way
in shedding light into so-called dark corners... I learned that many
years ago while working with two San Francisco Homicide Detectives,
doing a major television story dealing with the notorius ZODIAC
murder[s]. My interest in the Tippit murder ended there.
That is 'til I heard you were involved with the book. Who was the
editor?
Todd W. Vaughan
That's what I thought.
>
> > I have no idea what the nomination process is, and no idea how Dale
> > was nominated. Again, I'd suggest asking him.
>
> more cases than not, the producers, I suspect in Myers case, ABC. Only
> requirement is the program/piece *aired* the preceding year
My understanding from a quick internet check is that members of NATAS
vote on and make the nominations.
>
> > BTW, you never answered, do you have With Malice?
>
> no I don't.....
Ok. Have you read the book?
>tell you why, a few years back I stopped in Dallas,
> made my way to Dealey Plaza, drove to Oswald's boarding house, then
> followed LHO's excursion that day [via map, on foot] to the Tippit
> shooting scene, then on to the theater. I determined Oswald could not
> of made the Tippit crime scene in the time alloted.
I too have walked the route and made it in plenty of time.
Others have as well.
>Couple that with
> conflicting eyewitness accounts, descriptions, viewing distances,
> revolver versus automatic, shell casings....nah, to me the Tippit
> killing was an unfortunate (for Tippit) convenient diversion/
> deflection to the JFK's Dealey Plaza assassination.
All covered in the book.
Odd that you would pass judgement on the case without having read the
only book on the case, and without having all of the facts.
The Tippit murder was not a convenient diversion/deflection to the
JFK's Dealey Plaza assassination - it was the assassin of President
Kennedy gunning down a police officer to avoid being detained/
arrested.
>
> I'd of preferred to take that Dallas walking excursion along with a
> Tippit case related homicide detective, homicide detectives have a way
> in shedding light into so-called dark corners... I learned that many
> years ago while working with two San Francisco Homicide Detectives,
> doing a major television story dealing with the notorius ZODIAC
> murder[s]. My interest in the Tippit murder ended there.
Dallas Homicide Detective Jim Leavelle investigated the case. He
concluded Oswald killed Tippit.
>
> That is 'til I heard you were involved with the book. Who was the
> editor?
Off the top of my head, I don't recall. I believe though that it's in
the acknowledgments. Sounds like you need to buy the book.
Back to Dale's 3d work.
For more than 4 years, all you've done is cry and complain
about what Myers achieved with 3D software back in 2003.
David, if you're such a 3D genius and Myers is such a schmuck, why
don't you use LightWave (or any other 3D software) to duplicate Dale's
work and prove him wrong? After all, you''ll have plenty of time
during your baby-sitting session. Seems simple enough considering your
"expertise."
How about it?
tomnln
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
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> toad believes CARTOONS because he got PAID to believe CARTOONS.
>
Tom and Ellen Rossley,
What's your source for your claim that I "got PAID to believe
CARTOONS."?
You do have a source, correct?
Todd
> http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
>
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my goodness -- "That's what I thought"....? Think **peer** review, his
or my awards for that matter mean little after the flurry of new
business immediately following THE awards ceremony.... This is after
all, a MURDER. Not just cranking out any old rendered frames...
>
> > > I have no idea what the nomination process is, and no idea how Dale
> > > was nominated. Again, I'd suggest asking him.
>
> > more cases than not, the producers, I suspect in Myers case, ABC. Only
> > requirement is the program/piece *aired* the preceding year
>
> My understanding from a quick internet check is that members of NATAS
> vote on and make the nominations.
>
fill out the form, submit the fee -- qualify's you to nominate,
there's genre specific committee's verifying entrants and their entry,
etc.... all that kind of stuff --- no judgement is passed or made
concerning entry content-accuracy....
>
> > > BTW, you never answered, do you have With Malice?
>
> > no I don't.....
>
> Ok. Have you read the book?
>
> >tell you why, a few years back I stopped in Dallas,
> > made my way to Dealey Plaza, drove to Oswald's boarding house, then
> > followed LHO's excursion that day [via map, on foot] to the Tippit
> > shooting scene, then on to the theater. I determined Oswald could not
> > of made the Tippit crime scene in the time alloted.
>
> I too have walked the route and made it in plenty of time.
>
> Others have as well.
>
> >Couple that with
> > conflicting eyewitness accounts, descriptions, viewing distances,
> > revolver versus automatic, shell casings....nah, to me the Tippit
> > killing was an unfortunate (for Tippit) convenient diversion/
> > deflection to the JFK's Dealey Plaza assassination.
>
> All covered in the book.
>
> Odd that you would pass judgement on the case without having read the
> only book on the case, and without having all of the facts.
>
> The Tippit murder was not a convenient diversion/deflection to the
> JFK's Dealey Plaza assassination - it was the assassin of President
> Kennedy gunning down a police officer to avoid being detained/
> arrested.
>
a non-starter for me.... way to much case prejudice, any other case, I
doubt a jury would convict ANYONE based on on-scene eyewitness account
conflicts (I'd hate to quote Lone Nut mantra regarding 'eyewitnesses')
and crime scene evidence acquired or NOT acquired there -- to many
holes
>
> > I'd of preferred to take that Dallas walking excursion along with a
> > Tippit case related homicide detective, homicide detectives have a way
> > in shedding light into so-called dark corners... I learned that many
> > years ago while working with two San Francisco Homicide Detectives,
> > doing a major television story dealing with the notorius ZODIAC
> > murder[s]. My interest in the Tippit murder ended there.
>
> Dallas Homicide Detective Jim Leavelle investigated the case. He
> concluded Oswald killed Tippit.
Det. Leavelle, he's the cop escorting Oswald (to Oswald's immediate
right) when Ruby shot and KILLED him? Right there in the Dallas PD
garage on network 'national' television. Frankly, I'd of request time
with Chief Curry, I'd of thorughly gone over his book....
Leavelle became radioactive after that scene.
Always wondered why the DP didn't beat Ruby to death right there in
the garage, that day. That round could of passed right through Oswald
and hit 2 or 3 Dallas cops....
>
>
>
> > That is 'til I heard you were involved with the book. Who was the
> > editor?
>
> Off the top of my head, I don't recall. I believe though that it's in
> the acknowledgments. Sounds like you need to buy the book.
>
> Back to Dale's 3d work.
>
> For more than 4 years, all you've done is cry and complain
> about what Myers achieved with 3D software back in 2003.
hey verification of source materials used by non-interested parties is
NOT unusal, we call it 'Professional' peer review
> David, if you're such a 3D genius and Myers is such a schmuck, why
> don't you use LightWave (or any other 3D software) to duplicate Dale's
> work and prove him wrong?
Never said I was a genius champ, no need to put words in my mouth. I
will state I'm quite familiar with specific 3D code.
In order to propve him, Myers right -OR- wrong, I need the entire
project file[s] he used, complete with texture maps. Simple as
that..... With those, I'd make arrangements (utilizing lightWave) and
verify his fndings, unfortunatly recreating the files from scratch
creating new or acquiring source files, recreating texture maps,
etc.... won't gain anything. It's DMyers project files that need
review, see if there are any "subjective" conclusion reached....
After all, you''ll have plenty of time
> during your baby-sitting session. Seems simple enough considering your
> "expertise."
nothing to do with my expertise or time -- EVERYTHING to do with Myers
expertise and his "proof" claim[s]... Really no big deal Todd, its
done in the scientific community ALL the time
tomnln
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
You and Dale Myers.
Making that Cartyoon
You're also a LIAR about Lee J. Bowers observations.
ALL HERE>>> http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaug...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175279698....@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Todd W. Vaughan
> Your own words Prove it Criminal>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
>
> You and Dale Myers.
> Making that Cartyoon
I ask again, since you failed to answer, what's your source for your
claim that I "got PAID to believe CARTOONS." or "Cartyoon" if you
prefer?
You do have a source, correct?
>
> You're also a LIAR about Lee J. Bowers observations.
Feel free to show where I lied about what Lee Bosers claimed to have
seen.
>
> ALL HERE>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/todd_vaughan.htm
>
> "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1175279698....@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
tomnln
Read it & Weep Criminal
ALL in your own words
RUN>> http://www.whokilledjfk.net/officer_m.htm << RUN
"Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaug...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Anthony Marsh
And tell everyone how your SBT drawing differs from Dale Myers.
Which is correct?
> Todd
>
>
Show us where his red line exiting the head ends up.
Anthony Marsh
Can you explain how the intact bullet follows the curve of the rib and
also goes through the middle of his lung, collapsing it?
Anthony Marsh
> On Mar 29, 12:10 pm, "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 3:05 pm, "aeffects" <aeffe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> you assisted Dale Myers in one of his past endeavour[s]..... wouldn't
>>> be his Zapruder film cartoon of Elm Street events?
>> Tell me, David, do you really think Dales work is nothing but a
>> traditional 2-dimensional cartoon?
>
>
> product, of a 3d (Lightwave) project based on a 2d (Zapruder Film) 8mm
> film. None of which proves anything.... my opinion of course. That sum
> it up? If you need a reference re my expertise concerning 3d world
> <x,y,z> *y being up -- simulations ask Dave Wimp or Joe Durnavitch.
> I'm sure they'll give me a glowing report, especially when it comes to
> POVRAY C++ alike type code.... Having got that out of the way, did you
> Tippit murder book?
>
> (certainly backward compatible with older project files) here, I'd
> like to see Myer's project files and 3D topo source files, eh?
> Research being what research is, some researchers would like to
> confirm his statement allegeding "proof" in a very public murder! Emmy
> award aside, and its fine that he won one, I applaude that -- however,
> when one mentions, on (a national telecast) camera, proof concerning
> some associated with a very public murder, well, some folks take
> notice. Perhaps a little verification is in-store....
>
> months.
> Dale can tell you what that means, if you don't know...
>
What exactly do you want to see? There was no such thing as a 3D topo
file. Maybe you want to see the survey plat, 2D, that Myers based his
computer map on. Maybe you should ask the person who found it first.
Anthony Marsh
> On Mar 29, 3:54 pm, "Cliff" <n...@sfo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 29, 12:10 pm, "Todd W. Vaughan" <twvaughan2...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 29, 3:05 pm, "aeffects" <aeffe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> you assisted Dale Myers in one of his past endeavour[s]..... wouldn't
>>>> be his Zapruder film cartoon of Elm Street events?
>>> Tell me, David, do you really think Dales work is nothing but a
>>> traditional 2-dimensional cartoon?
>> with a perfectly straight line and claims this is
>> "scientifically accurate."
>>
>> Cartoons are more honest.
>
>
> Wow, I must have missed the "curved" bullet path.
>
>
Bullets in flight always take a curved path. Straight line trajectories
are just a simplification, an approximation.
Todd W. Vaughan
>
> - Show quoted text -
Tony,
1.) Who said the bullet when through the middle of his lung?
2.) The collapsing of the lung does not immediatley follow the passage
of the bullet, but rather subsequent to that, as air builds up between
the lung and inner chest wall.
Todd
Todd W. Vaughan
Over long range, yes.
But that is not what he was talking about.
Todd W. Vaughan
You didn't "find it first", Tony. It was created for the HSCA and
publsihed in their volumes. And there were weveral maps available
before that one.
>
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Todd W. Vaughan
I've don't think I've ever compared them.
I believe that Dale's would be the more correct of the two. Mine was
done by "eyeballing" and thus is certainly more subject to error.
I can, however, assure you that both are far more accurate than your
silly CAD/computer drawing.
Show you how?
>
>
>
>
>
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
aeffects
-bump- curious, Todd any input re my last?
Walt
>
> - Show quoted text -
Excellent point .... and entirely accurate.
How does a bullet's curved trajectory change when the target is 10
yards out and 45 degrees above the muzzle of the rifle? And 45
dregrees below the muzzle?
Walt
Todd W. Vaughan
It was "peer reviewed", David, by Z-Axis.
Are you suggesting that they are not competent?
>
>
>
> > > > I have no idea what the nomination process is, and no idea how Dale
> > > > was nominated. Again, I'd suggest asking him.
>
> > > more cases than not, the producers, I suspect in Myers case, ABC. Only
> > > requirement is the program/piece *aired* the preceding year
>
> > My understanding from a quick internet check is that members of NATAS
> > vote on and make the nominations.
>
> fill out the form, submit the fee -- qualify's you to nominate,
> there's genre specific committee's verifying entrants and their entry,
> etc.... all that kind of stuff --- no judgement is passed or made
> concerning entry content-accuracy....
>
>
>
> > > > BTW, you never answered, do you have With Malice?
>
> > > no I don't.....
>
> > Ok. Have you read the book?
Well, have you?
>
> > >tell you why, a few years back I stopped in Dallas,
> > > made my way to Dealey Plaza, drove to Oswald's boarding house, then
> > > followed LHO's excursion that day [via map, on foot] to the Tippit
> > > shooting scene, then on to the theater. I determined Oswald could not
> > > of made the Tippit crime scene in the time alloted.
>
> > I too have walked the route and made it in plenty of time.
>
> > Others have as well.
>
> > >Couple that with
> > > conflicting eyewitness accounts, descriptions, viewing distances,
> > > revolver versus automatic, shell casings....nah, to me the Tippit
> > > killing was an unfortunate (for Tippit) convenient diversion/
> > > deflection to the JFK's Dealey Plaza assassination.
>
> > All covered in the book.
>
> > Odd that you would pass judgement on the case without having read the
> > only book on the case, and without having all of the facts.
>
> > The Tippit murder was not a convenient diversion/deflection to the
> > JFK's Dealey Plaza assassination - it was the assassin of President
> > Kennedy gunning down a police officer to avoid being detained/
> > arrested.
>
> a non-starter for me.... way to much case prejudice, any other case, I
> doubt a jury would convict ANYONE based on on-scene eyewitness account
> conflicts (I'd hate to quote Lone Nut mantra regarding 'eyewitnesses')
> and crime scene evidence acquired or NOT acquired there -- to many
> holes
>
All dealt with in With Malice.
Again, have you read it?
>
>
> > > I'd of preferred to take that Dallas walking excursion along with a
> > > Tippit case related homicide detective, homicide detectives have a way
> > > in shedding light into so-called dark corners... I learned that many
> > > years ago while working with two San Francisco Homicide Detectives,
> > > doing a major television story dealing with the notorius ZODIAC
> > > murder[s]. My interest in the Tippit murder ended there.
>
> > Dallas Homicide Detective Jim Leavelle investigated the case. He
> > concluded Oswald killed Tippit.
>
> Det. Leavelle, he's the cop escorting Oswald (to Oswald's immediate
> right) when Ruby shot and KILLED him? Right there in the Dallas PD
> garage on network 'national' television. Frankly, I'd of request time
> with Chief Curry, I'd of thorughly gone over his book....
>
What does that have to do with his investigation of the murder of
Tippit?
> Leavelle became radioactive after that scene.
Ruby shooting LHO had nothing to do with Levealle. He was simply
escorting Oswald. He wasn't in charge of basement security. And
"radioactive", c'mon, David, that's crap. He continued on with the DPD
for years.
>
> Always wondered why the DP didn't beat Ruby to death right there in
> the garage, that day. That round could of passed right through Oswald
> and hit 2 or 3 Dallas cops....
Passed through LHO and then passed through 1 or 2 more people and then
wounding a 3rd!!! A 38 caliber slug!
LMFAO!
EGADS DAVID! YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SINGLE BULLET THEORY!
LMFAO!
>
>
>
> > > That is 'til I heard you were involved with the book. Who was the
> > > editor?
>
> > Off the top of my head, I don't recall. I believe though that it's in
> > the acknowledgments. Sounds like you need to buy the book.
>
> > Back to Dale's 3d work.
>
> > For more than 4 years, all you've done is cry and complain
> > about what Myers achieved with 3D software back in 2003.
>
> hey verification of source materials used by non-interested parties is
> NOT unusal, we call it 'Professional' peer review
Z-Axis did this, yes?
>
> > David, if you're such a 3D genius and Myers is such a schmuck, why
> > don't you use LightWave (or any other 3D software) to duplicate Dale's
> > work and prove him wrong?
>
> Never said I was a genius champ, no need to put words in my mouth. I
> will state I'm quite familiar with specific 3D code.
Nor did I, "champ", I said "IF" you are.
>
> In order to propve him, Myers right -OR- wrong, I need the entire
> project file[s] he used, complete with texture maps. Simple as
> that..... With those, I'd make arrangements (utilizing lightWave) and
> verify his fndings, unfortunatly recreating the files from scratch
> creating new or acquiring source files, recreating texture maps,
> etc.... won't gain anything. It's DMyers project files that need
> review, see if there are any "subjective" conclusion reached....
C'mon, David, you could do the entire project yourselft, duplicating
his work, from scratch.
Step up, turtle, live on the wild side, boy.
>
> After all, you''ll have plenty of time
>
> > during your baby-sitting session. Seems simple enough considering your
> > "expertise."
>
> nothing to do with my expertise or time -- EVERYTHING to do with Myers
> expertise and his "proof" claim[s]... Really no big deal Todd, its
> done in the scientific community ALL the time
Z-Axis did it, yes?
aeffects
was Z-Axis provided the entire Lightwave file, complete with DP and
surrounding area elevation maps?
>
> Are you suggesting that they are not competent?
>
I've never heard of them, what makes you think they're competent, past
track record?
>
> > > > > I have no idea what the nomination process is, and no idea how Dale
> > > > > was nominated. Again, I'd suggest asking him.
>
> > > > more cases than not, the producers, I suspect in Myers case, ABC. Only
> > > > requirement is the program/piece *aired* the preceding year
>
> > > My understanding from a quick internet check is that members of NATAS
> > > vote on and make the nominations.
>
> > fill out the form, submit the fee -- qualify's you to nominate,
> > there's genre specific committee's verifying entrants and their entry,
> > etc.... all that kind of stuff --- no judgement is passed or made
> > concerning entry content-accuracy....
>
> > > > > BTW, you never answered, do you have With Malice?
>
> > > > no I don't.....
>
> > > Ok. Have you read the book?
>
> Well, have you?
>
nope
c'mon, I've read the Warren Report [the only document that counts},
why should I be bothered with any other after the fact reprise of
same?
>
> > > > I'd of preferred to take that Dallas walking excursion along with a
> > > > Tippit case related homicide detective, homicide detectives have a way
> > > > in shedding light into so-called dark corners... I learned that many
> > > > years ago while working with two San Francisco Homicide Detectives,
> > > > doing a major television story dealing with the notorius ZODIAC
> > > > murder[s]. My interest in the Tippit murder ended there.
>
> > > Dallas Homicide Detective Jim Leavelle investigated the case. He
> > > concluded Oswald killed Tippit.
>
> > Det. Leavelle, he's the cop escorting Oswald (to Oswald's immediate
> > right) when Ruby shot and KILLED him? Right there in the Dallas PD
> > garage on network 'national' television. Frankly, I'd of request time
> > with Chief Curry, I'd of thorughly gone over his book....
>
> What does that have to do with his investigation of the murder of
> Tippit?
nothing more than a book on Tippit's murder relates to Myers cartoon
> > Leavelle became radioactive after that scene.
>
> Ruby shooting LHO had nothing to do with Levealle. He was simply
> escorting Oswald. He wasn't in charge of basement security. And
> "radioactive", c'mon, David, that's crap. He continued on with the DPD
> for years.
>
>
>
> > Always wondered why the DP didn't beat Ruby to death right there in
> > the garage, that day. That round could of passed right through Oswald
> > and hit 2 or 3 Dallas cops....
>
> Passed through LHO and then passed through 1 or 2 more people and then
> wounding a 3rd!!! A 38 caliber slug!
>
> LMFAO!
>
> EGADS DAVID! YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SINGLE BULLET THEORY!
>
> LMFAO!
>
of course -- however, I'm NOT making the claim, didn't happen while
Ruby was a gunman... Nutter's have no choice but make the SBT claim:
NO conspiracy at ALL costs. Good ole American Pie, MOM can't handle
knowing we murder our own elected officials...
>
> > > > That is 'til I heard you were involved with the book. Who was the
> > > > editor?
>
> > > Off the top of my head, I don't recall. I believe though that it's in
> > > the acknowledgments. Sounds like you need to buy the book.
>
> > > Back to Dale's 3d work.
>
> > > For more than 4 years, all you've done is cry and complain
> > > about what Myers achieved with 3D software back in 2003.
>
> > hey verification of source materials used by non-interested parties is
> > NOT unusal, we call it 'Professional' peer review
>
> Z-Axis did this, yes?
>
what did they review, the documentary, or the project files....
>
> > > David, if you're such a 3D genius and Myers is such a schmuck, why
> > > don't you use LightWave (or any other 3D software) to duplicate Dale's
> > > work and prove him wrong?
>
> > Never said I was a genius champ, no need to put words in my mouth. I
> > will state I'm quite familiar with specific 3D code.
>
> Nor did I, "champ", I said "IF" you are.
>
>
>
> > In order to propve him, Myers right -OR- wrong, I need the entire
> > project file[s] he used, complete with texture maps. Simple as
> > that..... With those, I'd make arrangements (utilizing lightWave) and
> > verify his fndings, unfortunatly recreating the files from scratch
> > creating new or acquiring source files, recreating texture maps,
> > etc.... won't gain anything. It's DMyers project files that need
> > review, see if there are any "subjective" conclusion reached....
>
> C'mon, David, you could do the entire project yourselft, duplicating
> his work, from scratch.
it's Myers *finished* work being questioned, my duplicating his work
is worthless.... After all, Myer's claim on camera: his animation is
PROOF and validation of, what again? Nothing short of utilizing HIS
(Myers) files will confirm his claim. Creating a 2D animation of a
3dworld based on a 2d 8mm film is fraught with problems -- Myers knows
it, Dave Wimp and Joe Durnavitch know it, and unfortuantelly for
Myer's I do TOO!
I still find it amazing he has a 10,000 word FAQ link on his site....
What is it he needs to expalin re his claim the animation is PROOF
that a single assassin did the deed on Nov 22nd 1963 -- 10,000 words?
> Step up, turtle, live on the wild side, boy.
>
Time for Myers to step up. When animation was aired, with his
declaration it's "PROOF" -- he entered the wildside. He's been
challenged and he's avoiding! Why? Simple as that, Todd!
Best luck on the Tippit book though... I'm sure you got MOST of the
facts right, at least WCR right :)
Todd W. Vaughan
Ask Dale. You have hi semail address.
>
>
>
> > Are you suggesting that they are not competent?
>
> I've never heard of them, what makes you think they're competent, past
> track record?
For starters.
>
>
>
> > > > > > I have no idea what the nomination process is, and no idea how Dale
> > > > > > was nominated. Again, I'd suggest asking him.
>
> > > > > more cases than not, the producers, I suspect in Myers case, ABC. Only
> > > > > requirement is the program/piece *aired* the preceding year
>
> > > > My understanding from a quick internet check is that members of NATAS
> > > > vote on and make the nominations.
>
> > > fill out the form, submit the fee -- qualify's you to nominate,
> > > there's genre specific committee's verifying entrants and their entry,
> > > etc.... all that kind of stuff --- no judgement is passed or made
> > > concerning entry content-accuracy....
>
> > > > > > BTW, you never answered, do you have With Malice?
>
> > > > > no I don't.....
>
> > > > Ok. Have you read the book?
>
> > Well, have you?
>
> nope
Well, why not?
A ridiculous, say-nothing reply.
>
>
>
> > > > > I'd of preferred to take that Dallas walking excursion along with a
> > > > > Tippit case related homicide detective, homicide detectives have a way
> > > > > in shedding light into so-called dark corners... I learned that many
> > > > > years ago while working with two San Francisco Homicide Detectives,
> > > > > doing a major television story dealing with the notorius ZODIAC
> > > > > murder[s]. My interest in the Tippit murder ended there.
>
> > > > Dallas Homicide Detective Jim Leavelle investigated the case. He
> > > > concluded Oswald killed Tippit.
>
> > > Det. Leavelle, he's the cop escorting Oswald (to Oswald's immediate
> > > right) when Ruby shot and KILLED him? Right there in the Dallas PD
> > > garage on network 'national' television. Frankly, I'd of request time
> > > with Chief Curry, I'd of thorughly gone over his book....
>
> > What does that have to do with his investigation of the murder of
> > Tippit?
>
> nothing more than a book on Tippit's murder relates to Myers cartoon
I've never tried to relate Dales book to his 3D work.
I'm discussing them as seperate issues.
Any confusion is yours.
>
> > > Leavelle became radioactive after that scene.
>
> > Ruby shooting LHO had nothing to do with Levealle. He was simply
> > escorting Oswald. He wasn't in charge of basement security. And
> > "radioactive", c'mon, David, that's crap. He continued on with the DPD
> > for years.
Silent, I see.
>
> > > Always wondered why the DP didn't beat Ruby to death right there in
> > > the garage, that day. That round could of passed right through Oswald
> > > and hit 2 or 3 Dallas cops....
>
> > Passed through LHO and then passed through 1 or 2 more people and then
> > wounding a 3rd!!! A 38 caliber slug!
>
> > LMFAO!
>
> > EGADS DAVID! YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SINGLE BULLET THEORY!
>
> > LMFAO!
>
> of course -- however, I'm NOT making the claim, didn't happen while
> Ruby was a gunman... Nutter's have no choice but make the SBT claim:
> NO conspiracy at ALL costs. Good ole American Pie, MOM can't handle
> knowing we murder our own elected officials...
>
You said "That round could of passed right through Oswald and hit 2 or
3 Dallas cops...."
Sounds like you made the claim to me.
I say, no it could not have, and it's ridiculous for you to think
otherwise, given that we are talking about a .38 caliber pistol bullet
here.
>
>
> > > > > That is 'til I heard you were involved with the book. Who was the
> > > > > editor?
>
> > > > Off the top of my head, I don't recall. I believe though that it's in
> > > > the acknowledgments. Sounds like you need to buy the book.
>
> > > > Back to Dale's 3d work.
>
> > > > For more than 4 years, all you've done is cry and complain
> > > > about what Myers achieved with 3D software back in 2003.
>
> > > hey verification of source materials used by non-interested parties is
> > > NOT unusal, we call it 'Professional' peer review
>
> > Z-Axis did this, yes?
>
> what did they review, the documentary, or the project files....
Read their report, and/or email Dale.
>
>
>
> > > > David, if you're such a 3D genius and Myers is such a schmuck, why
> > > > don't you use LightWave (or any other 3D software) to duplicate Dale's
> > > > work and prove him wrong?
>
> > > Never said I was a genius champ, no need to put words in my mouth. I
> > > will state I'm quite familiar with specific 3D code.
>
> > Nor did I, "champ", I said "IF" you are.
>
> > > In order to propve him, Myers right -OR- wrong, I need the entire
> > > project file[s] he used, complete with texture maps. Simple as
> > > that..... With those, I'd make arrangements (utilizing lightWave) and
> > > verify his fndings, unfortunatly recreating the files from scratch
> > > creating new or acquiring source files, recreating texture maps,
> > > etc.... won't gain anything. It's DMyers project files that need
> > > review, see if there are any "subjective" conclusion reached....
>
> > C'mon, David, you could do the entire project yourselft, duplicating
> > his work, from scratch.
>
> it's Myers *finished* work being questioned, my duplicating his work
> is worthless.... After all, Myer's claim on camera: his animation is
> PROOF and validation of, what again? Nothing short of utilizing HIS
> (Myers) files will confirm his claim. Creating a 2D animation of a
> 3dworld based on a 2d 8mm film is fraught with problems -- Myers knows
> it, Dave Wimp and Joe Durnavitch know it, and unfortuantelly for
> Myer's I do TOO!
There is 3D information contained within the Z-film.
You do know that, yes?
>
> I still find it amazing he has a 10,000 word FAQ link on his site....
> What is it he needs to expalin re his claim the animation is PROOF
> that a single assassin did the deed on Nov 22nd 1963 -- 10,000 words?
>
> > Step up, turtle, live on the wild side, boy.
>
> Time for Myers to step up. When animation was aired, with his
> declaration it's "PROOF" -- he entered the wildside. He's been
> challenged and he's avoiding! Why? Simple as that, Todd!
>
> Best luck on the Tippit book though... I'm sure you got MOST of the
> facts right, at least WCR right :)
Best of luck on what Tippit book?
Anthony Marsh
I did not have CAD back then. Only Commodore, using GEOS. Paint program.
Pixel by pixel. My diagram is limit by the scale of one pixel equals a
half inch. It was not drawn to depict a SBT.
Anthony Marsh
Excuse me? Where have you been? You are not supposed to claim that Dale
Myers used the original HSCA map. I corrected it, which resulted in the
revised version I uploaded. You are supposed to claim that Dale used
that revised version. There were several inaccurate maps before that,
which is why W&A requested a better and more accurate map.
Anthony Marsh
I am not talking about how many seconds it took.
I am asking how the lung can collapse if it is not hit.
> Todd
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