Does Julia Ann Mercer's Story Make Any Logical Sense?

[David Von Pein]

Julia Ann Mercer claimed that she saw Jack Ruby behind the wheel of a
pick-up truck in Dallas' Dealey Plaza on the morning of 11/22/63,
while a "gun case" was being unloaded from the back of this truck that
Ruby was sitting in.

But common sense ALONE tells a reasonable person that a band of
assassins wouldn't be casually taking a rifle from a pick-up truck on
Elm Street IN HEAVY TRAFFIC for all to see just an hour or two before
JFK is shot from the very same Plaza. That's hilarious all by itself.

I guess Ruby and his weapon-toting co-conspirator wanted as many
Dallasites as possible to see the rifle....instead of utilizing a much
less-noticeable method of delivering the rifle to the proverbial
"Knoll Killer".

I'm wondering how the CTers who believe Mercer AND also believe Ed
Hoffman's story can somehow "tie" those two things together -- i.e.:

Mercer sees an ALREADY-ASSEMBLED rifle being unloaded from a truck.
But Hoffman sees a Grassy Knoll gunman take his weapon apart and put
it in a container of some kind.

So, why did Mercer see an assembled rifle, instead of a container
which could have held a broken-down rifle (per Hoffman's tale)?

I guess the killers couldn't have cared less about letting many people
see the fully-assembled gun shortly before the assassination, per
Mercer's account.

After all, a matter of only hours later IN THE WAKE OF A PRESIDENTIAL
ASSASSINATION IN THE VERY SAME LOCATION, who's going to remember a
little trivial thing like an air-conditioner repairman carrying a
RIFLE in Dealey Plaza?

LOL.

Was that the idiotic mindset of these reckless plotters?

More details on Julia Ann Mercer's story can be found in the middle of
the following webpage:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dealey.htm

[Walt]

On Jan 30, 3:10 am, "David Von Pein" <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Julia Ann Mercer claimed that she saw Jack Ruby behind the wheel of a
> pick-up truck in Dallas' Dealey Plaza on the morning of 11/22/63,
> while a "gun case" was being unloaded from the back of this truck that
> Ruby was sitting in.
>
> But common sense ALONE tells a reasonable person that a band of
> assassins wouldn't be casually taking a rifle from a pick-up truck on
> Elm Street IN HEAVY TRAFFIC for all to see just an hour or two before
> JFK is shot from the very same Plaza. That's hilarious all by itself.

You are merely demonstrating yor tunnel vision..... A band of
Hoover's henchmen wouldn't have been at all concerned about being seen
taking a rifle in a case from a PU truck a couple of hours before the
motorcade arrived. In the unlikely event that someone might ask what
they were doing, they would have produced Secret Service credentials
and explained that they were part of the security detail for the
motocade.

>
> I guess Ruby and his weapon-toting co-conspirator wanted as many
> Dallasites as possible to see the rifle....instead of utilizing a much
> less-noticeable method of delivering the rifle to the proverbial
> "Knoll Killer".

Probably dozens of motorists saw the same thing that Julia Mercer saw
but never gave it a second thought or simply assumed the guy with the
rifle case was a hunter taking his rifle to a Gun Smith.

If you Von Pea Brain were one of those motorists there is no doubt you
would have seen nothing unusual about the scene.

>
> I'm wondering how the CTers who believe Mercer AND also believe Ed
> Hoffman's story can somehow "tie" those two things together -- i.e.:
>
> Mercer sees an ALREADY-ASSEMBLED rifle being unloaded from a truck.
> But Hoffman sees a Grassy Knoll gunman take his weapon apart and put
> it in a container of some kind.
>
> So, why did Mercer see an assembled rifle, instead of a container
> which could have held a broken-down rifle (per Hoffman's tale)?

The accuracy of a just assembled rifle is unreliable..... The rifle
has to be test fired in the assembled state.
AFTER it has been fired, and it's accuracy is no longer important the
rifle can be disassembled for easy concealment.

VP.....your posts reveal that you have NO ability to THINK....

Walt

[bail...@gmail.com]

David? You expect way to much from CT's. They don't think in
rationale terms. They live in a world of shadows where common sense
doesn't exist. Remember Daivd, if the evidence DOESN'T point to
conspiracy, they change the evidence and then announce their
solution. Just once, just one time after 43 years you would think
THEY could produce JUST ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE OF CONSPIRACY. They
can't. You have idiots like Holmes who hasn't had a creative thought
in years but loves seeing his name in print. People like Holmes spend
their days delving into ballistic trajectories, autopsy photos, the
Warren Report searching for mistakes they turn into CONSPIRACY. They
do this at the expense of knowing and understanding who LHO was and
what drove him to this crime. Rather than accept this crime for the
simplicity of it, these people NEED conspiracy in their lives to
validate their existence. I've said before ....if JFK and God came
down from heaven and announced "LHO did it; there was no
conspiracy"...people like Holmes would respond...."Wow, this is bigger
than we thought".

On Jan 30, 11:25 am, "Walt" <papakochenb...@evertek.net> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 3:10 am, "David Von Pein" <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Julia Ann Mercer claimed that she saw Jack Ruby behind the wheel of a
> > pick-up truck in Dallas' Dealey Plaza on the morning of 11/22/63,
> > while a "gun case" was being unloaded from the back of this truck that
> > Ruby was sitting in.
>
> > But common sense ALONE tells a reasonable person that a band of
> > assassins wouldn't be casually taking a rifle from a pick-up truck on
> > Elm Street IN HEAVY TRAFFIC for all to see just an hour or two before

> > JFK is shot from the very same Plaza. That's hilarious all by itself.You are merely demonstrating yor tunnel vision..... A band of

> Hoover's henchmen wouldn't have been at all concerned about being seen
> taking a rifle in a case from a PU truck a couple of hours before the
> motorcade arrived. In the unlikely event that someone might ask what
> they were doing, they would have produced Secret Service credentials
> and explained that they were part of the security detail for the
> motocade.
>
>
>
> > I guess Ruby and his weapon-toting co-conspirator wanted as many
> > Dallasites as possible to see the rifle....instead of utilizing a much
> > less-noticeable method of delivering the rifle to the proverbial

> > "Knoll Killer".Probably dozens of motorists saw the same thing that Julia Mercer saw

> but never gave it a second thought or simply assumed the guy with the
> rifle case was a hunter taking his rifle to a Gun Smith.
>
> If you Von Pea Brain were one of those motorists there is no doubt you
> would have seen nothing unusual about the scene.
>
>
>
> > I'm wondering how the CTers who believe Mercer AND also believe Ed
> > Hoffman's story can somehow "tie" those two things together -- i.e.:
>
> > Mercer sees an ALREADY-ASSEMBLED rifle being unloaded from a truck.
> > But Hoffman sees a Grassy Knoll gunman take his weapon apart and put
> > it in a container of some kind.
>
> > So, why did Mercer see an assembled rifle, instead of a container

> > which could have held a broken-down rifle (per Hoffman's tale)?The accuracy of a just assembled rifle is unreliable..... The rifle

> has to be test fired in the assembled state.
> AFTER it has been fired, and it's accuracy is no longer important the
> rifle can be disassembled for easy concealment.
>
> VP.....your posts reveal that you have NO ability to THINK....
>
> Walt
>
>
>
>
>
> > I guess the killers couldn't have cared less about letting many people
> > see the fully-assembled gun shortly before the assassination, per
> > Mercer's account.
>
> > After all, a matter of only hours later IN THE WAKE OF A PRESIDENTIAL
> > ASSASSINATION IN THE VERY SAME LOCATION, who's going to remember a
> > little trivial thing like an air-conditioner repairman carrying a
> > RIFLE in Dealey Plaza?
>
> > LOL.
>
> > Was that the idiotic mindset of these reckless plotters?
>
> > More details on Julia Ann Mercer's story can be found in the middle of
> > the following webpage:
>

> >http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dealey.htm- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

[m.cono...@gmail.com]

There may have been mob involvement with Oswald, but he was the only shooter. I have seen recreations of the single shooter theory and it works easily. As far as eye witness accounts go, there is nothing in an investigation more unreliable than an eye witness-never mind a witness who just watched their President have his head blown off. And regarding the strange behavior by some investigators either pushing a narrative or destroying notes, that's simply people covering their ass. Everyone wanted this thing solved and quickly, mistakes were made. No one wanted a paper trail leading to themselves that says they had the shooter in their hands, a shooter who went to Russia and came back, and let him go, especially Feds. Hoover was maniacal about the FBI's image, and would have destroyed anyone who tarnished it.

I'm a little torn about it. I think Oswald might have been on the mobs payroll and didn't know it, but probably was not. As far as who pulled the trigger and from where: it was Oswald from the sixth floor of the TSBD. No doubt.

[Sam McClung]

how does what you wrote below relate to your subject above?

<m.cono...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:15b0e75f-239c-4fea...@googlegroups.com...

[Ben Holmes]

In article <15b0e75f-239c-4fea...@googlegroups.com>,
m.cono...@gmail.com says...
>
>There may have been mob involvement with Oswald, but he was the only shoote=
>r. I have seen recreations of the single shooter theory and it works easily=
>. As far as eye witness accounts go, there is nothing in an investigation m=
>ore unreliable than an eye witness-never mind a witness who just watched th=
>eir President have his head blown off. And regarding the strange behavior b=
>y some investigators either pushing a narrative or destroying notes, that's=
> simply people covering their ass. Everyone wanted this thing solved and qu=
>ickly, mistakes were made. No one wanted a paper trail leading to themselve=
>s that says they had the shooter in their hands, a shooter who went to Russ=
>ia and came back, and let him go, especially Feds. Hoover was maniacal abou=

>t the FBI's image, and would have destroyed anyone who tarnished it.
>

>I'm a little torn about it. I think Oswald might have been on the mobs payr=
>oll and didn't know it, but probably was not. As far as who pulled the trig=
>ger and from where: it was Oswald from the sixth floor of the TSBD. No doub=
>t.


Of course, the fact that you'll turn coward and run away when presented with the
actual evidence belies your statements.

We'll start with a simple one... there's *NEVER* been an honest recreation of
the shooting.

An honest one would have used the original rifle, shooting from the Snipers
nest, or a duplication of it, at moving targets.

The Warren Commission had the opportunity to do this - and despite the MANY
advantages they gave the shooters, THEY COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE ALLEGED FEAT.


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