20 Questions for LNers
Robert Harris
1. Dr. Luis Alvarez, one of the most brilliant scientists of the 20th
century, declared that Abraham Zapruder was startled by a loud noise at
Zframe, 285. Was he wrong?
2. Roy Kellerman said
(quote)
I come right back and grabbed the speaker and said to the driver,
"Let's get out of here; we are hit," and grabbed the mike and I said,
"Lawson, this is Kellerman,"�this is Lawson, who is in the front car.
"We are hit; get us to the hospital immediately." Now, in the seconds
that I talked just now, a flurry of shells come into the car.
(unquote)
Was he wrong?
3. Bill Greer said, "The last two seemed to be just simultaneously, one
behind the other.."
Was he wrong?
4. Nellie Connally reported the final two shots *after* she turned to
look back at JFK, which we know she did after Z-250, after her husband
began to shout, after the last time she looked to the rear, which we
know was at Z280.
Was she wrong?
5. Jackie Kennedy said she heard the "terrible noises" *after* she
first heard John Connally shouting. Was she wrong too?
6. SA Warren Taylor said, "In the instant that my left foot touched the
ground, I heard two more bangs and realized that they must be gun
shots." But in the Altgens photo, taken at Z-255 we can clearly see
that Taylor has not yet stepped out of the car.
Was he wrong too?
7. SA George Hickey said, "At the moment he was almost sitting erect I
heard two reports which I thought were shots and that appeared to me
completely different in sound than the first report and were in such
rapid succession that there seemed to be practically no time element
between them."
Was he wrong?
8. Police officer Clyde Haygood said, "The last two were closer than
the first. In other words, it was the first, and then a pause, and then
the other two were real close"
Was he wrong?
9. Reporter Mary Woodward said, "I heard a very loud noise. And I
wasn't sure what it was at that point, and I turned to my friends and
asked 'what was that? Is some jerk shooting off firecrackers?' And then
I heard the second one, and this time I knew what had happened, because
I saw the president's motion, and then the third shot came very, very
quickly, on top of the second one."
Was she wrong?
10. Linda Willis - "Yes; I heard one. Then there was a little bit of
time, and then there were two real fast bullets together.."
Was she wrong?
11. Congressman Ralph Yarborough "..by my estimate�to me there seemed
to be a longer time between the first and second shots, a much shorter
time between the second and third shots."
He was wrong too??
12. Edward Shields - "I said, 'the President has been shot'; we walked
back to the lot and where Tracey was. I heard one shot and then a pause
and then this repetition�two shots right behind the other.."
Was he wrong?
13. SA Forest Sorrels said "there was to me about twice as much time
between the first and second shots as there was between the second and
third shots. "
Was he wrong?
14. Billy Lovelady, "After he had passed and was about 50 yards in
front of us I heard three shots. There was a slight pause after the
first shot then the next two was right close together."
Was he wrong too?
15. Ladybird Johnson said, "..suddenly there was a sharp loud report�a
shot. It seemed to me to come from the right, above my shoulder, from a
building. Then a moment and then two more shots in rapid succession."
Was she wrong?
16. Reporter Robert Jackson, "I would say to me it seemed like 3 or 4
seconds between the first and the second, and between the second and
third, well, I guess 2 seconds, they were very close together.."
Was he wrong?
17. Lee Bowers said, "I heard three shots. One, then a slight pause,
then two very close together."
He got it wrong too?
18. Mary Ann Mitchell - "there were three���the second and third being
closer together than the first and second..."
Did she get it wrong?
19. Sheriff's deputy Allen Sweat, "the President's caravan had just
passed and about a minute or two, I heard a shot and about 7 seconds
later another shot and approximately 2 or 3 seconds later a third
shot."
Why did Sweat get it wrong?
20. Dallas Mayor Earle Cabell - "there was a longer pause between the
first and second shots than there was between the second and third
shots. They were in rather rapid succession."
The mayor blew it to, eh?
The Warren commission concluded that "most" witnesses agreed that the
final shots were closely bunched and much closer together than the
first two they heard.
Warren Commissioner Allen Dulles at one point, speculated that the
number of people recalling that shooting pattern may have been as high
as 5:1 over all others.
Robert Harris
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tara
Why does the conspiracy community always ask questions but never
answer any?
David Von Pein
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1f1ddad1f80aac29
21.) Every official investigation into the JFK murder case said that
Lee Harvey Oswald killed President Kennedy by firing three shots with
his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle from the 6th Floor of the TSBD.
Were the Warren Commission and the HSCA BOTH wrong?
22.) Every official investigation into the JFK murder case said that
the Single-Bullet Theory is the correct scenario for the double-man
wounding of John F. Kennedy & John B. Connally.
Were the Warren Commission and the HSCA BOTH wrong?
23.) Every single person in officialdom (plus the three doctors who
performed the autopsy on JFK's body) who has ever examined the autopsy
photographs and X-rays of President Kennedy concluded that JFK was
shot in the head ONE time--from BEHIND.
Were the Clark Panel AND the Rockefeller Commission AND the HSCA AND
Dr. Humes AND Dr. Finck AND Dr. Boswell all wrong?
24.) Every single reasonable person in the history of the world has
determined that (on average) 97.775% of all "conspiracy theorists" who
regularly post messages on Internet boards like this one are retarded
conspiracy-happy idiots who enjoy attempting to re-write the history
of the way the 35th U.S. Chief Executive died in the year nineteen
hundred and sixty-three.
~Mark VII~
Robert Harris
<7b2f1801-eedc-4104...@d19g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
tara <taral...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Jun 14, 5:41�m, Robert Harris <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Twenty questions for the nutists.
> >
> > 1. Dr. Luis Alvarez, one of the most brilliant scientists of the 20th
> > century, declared that Abraham Zapruder was startled by a loud noise at
> > Zframe, 285. Was he wrong?
> >
> > 2. Roy Kellerman said
> > (quote)
> > I come right back and grabbed the speaker and said to the driver,
> > "Let's get out of here; we are hit," and grabbed the mike and I said,
> > "Lawson, this is Kellerman,"�his is Lawson, who is in the front car.
> > 11. Congressman Ralph Yarborough �"..by my estimate�o me there seemed
> > to be a longer time between the first and second shots, a much shorter
> > time between the second and third shots."
> >
> > He was wrong too??
> >
> > 12. Edward Shields - "I said, 'the President has been shot'; we walked
> > back to the lot and where Tracey was. I heard one shot and then a pause
> > and then this repetition�wo shots right behind the other.."
> >
> > Was he wrong?
> >
> > 13. SA Forest Sorrels said "there was to me about twice as much time
> > between the first and second shots as there was between the second and
> > third shots. "
> >
> > Was he wrong?
> >
> > 14. Billy Lovelady, "After he had passed and was about 50 yards in
> > front of us I heard three shots. There was a slight pause after the
> > first shot then the next two was right close together."
> >
> > Was he wrong too?
> >
> > 15. Ladybird Johnson said, "..suddenly there was a sharp loud report�
> > shot. It seemed to me to come from the right, above my shoulder, from a
> > building. Then a moment and then two more shots in rapid succession."
> >
> > Was she wrong?
> >
> > 16. Reporter Robert Jackson, "I would say to me it seemed like 3 or 4
> > seconds between the first and the second, and between the second and
> > third, well, I guess 2 seconds, they were very close together.."
> >
> > Was he wrong?
> >
> > 17. Lee Bowers said, "I heard three shots. �ne, then a slight pause,
I will be happy to answer each and every one of my questions or yours.
The answer to each of the above, is no.
What questions do you have for me?
Robert Harris
yeuhd
direction of the Depository.
32.7% of earwitnesses in Dealey Plaza said ALL shots came from the
direction of the grassy knoll or the Triple Underpass.
Those opinions are mutually exclusive.
Were 52.9% of earwitnesses wrong about what they heard?
Were 32.7% of earwitnesses wrong about what they heard?
Robert Harris
David, I answered your questions in the censored newsgroup.
Why do you post the same messages and not link them to both groups?
Have you ever considered that if you were right, you wouldn't need to
employ tactics to make it appear that your adversaries are evading you?
Robert Harris
In article
<95f40832-6640-41cf...@w3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
David Von Pein <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/1f1ddad1f80aac29
>
>
> 21.) Every official investigation into the JFK murder case said that
> Lee Harvey Oswald killed President Kennedy by firing three shots with
> his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle from the 6th Floor of the TSBD?
David Von Pein
I posted it to both groups (except for my "#24", for obvious reasons).
Robert Harris
<bb897acb-b2be-46f3...@b9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
yeuhd <Needle...@gmail.com> wrote:
Witness recollections were partly based on where they were standing at
the time, and as the HSCA concluded, many witnesses gave a singular
response to the question because of the way it was asked.
Robert Harris
Thalia
>
> - Show quoted text -
Geez, nice deflection.
Ben Holmes
Thalia says...
>
>On Jun 15, 10:10=C2=A0am, tara <taralac...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 14, 5:41=C2=A0pm, Robert Harris <reharr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Twenty questions for the nutists.
>>
>> > 1. Dr. Luis Alvarez, one of the most brilliant scientists of the 20th
>> > century, declared that Abraham Zapruder was startled by a loud noise at
>> > Zframe, 285. Was he wrong?
>>
>> > 2. Roy Kellerman said
>> > (quote)
>> > I come right back and grabbed the speaker and said to the driver,
>> > "Let's get out of here; we are hit," and grabbed the mike and I said,
>there seemed
>> > to be a longer time between the first and second shots, a much shorter
>> > time between the second and third shots."
>>
>> > He was wrong too??
>>
>> > 12. Edward Shields - "I said, 'the President has been shot'; we walked
>> > back to the lot and where Tracey was. I heard one shot and then a pause
>>
>> > Was he wrong?
>>
>> > 13. SA Forest Sorrels said "there was to me about twice as much time
>> > between the first and second shots as there was between the second and
>> > third shots. "
>>
>> > Was he wrong?
>>
>> > 14. Billy Lovelady, "After he had passed and was about 50 yards in
>> > front of us I heard three shots. There was a slight pause after the
>> > first shot then the next two was right close together."
>>
>> > Was he wrong too?
>>
>=80=B9a
>> > shot. It seemed to me to come from the right, above my shoulder, from a
>> > building. Then a moment and then two more shots in rapid succession."
>>
>> > Was she wrong?
>>
>> > 16. Reporter Robert Jackson, "I would say to me it seemed like 3 or 4
>> > seconds between the first and the second, and between the second and
>> > third, well, I guess 2 seconds, they were very close together.."
>>
>> > Was he wrong?
>>
>se,
>> > then two very close together."
>>
>> > He got it wrong too?
>>
>nd third being
>> > closer together than the first and second..."
>>
>> > Did she get it wrong?
>>
>> > 19. Sheriff's deputy Allen Sweat, "the President's caravan had just
>> > passed and about a minute or two, I heard a shot and about 7 seconds
>> > later another shot and approximately 2 or 3 seconds later a third
>> > shot."
>>
>> > Why did Sweat get it wrong?
>>
>> > 20. Dallas Mayor Earle Cabell - "there was a longer pause between the
>> > first and second shots than there was between the second and third
>> > shots. They were in rather rapid succession."
>>
>> > The mayor blew it to, eh?
>>
>> > The Warren commission concluded that "most" witnesses agreed that the
>> > final shots were closely bunched and much closer together than the
>> > first two they heard.
>>
>> > Warren Commissioner Allen Dulles at one point, speculated that the
>> > number of people recalling that shooting pattern may have been as high
>> > as 5:1 over all others.
>>
>> > Robert Harris
>>
>>
>> answer any?
>
Yep... deflection indeed. CT'ers can answer *ALL* these questions - the answer,
of course, is that they are all explainable in terms of a conspiracy. The fact
that LNT'ers cannot explain the evidence in *non* conspiratorial terms is
embarrassing to them, or if they were honest, it would be.
It's nothing less than a bald-faced lie to suggest that CT'ers cannot answer
questions - indeed, LNT'ers cannot ask any to which CT'ers cannot provide
*REASONABLE* and understandable answers.
Yet the obverse isn't true.
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yeuhd
> as the HSCA concluded, many witnesses gave a singular
> response to the question because of the way it was asked.
Does that principle also apply to the eyewitness testimony you
referenced above?
Robert Harris
<8d20670a-84c7-41f2...@p5g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
yeuhd <Needle...@gmail.com> wrote:
Please be specific. What question did I talk about that you think
prejudiced the witness replies?
Robert Harris