The Mindset Of A 22-Year-Old Conspiracy Kook (On Full Display)
David Von Pein
The link above provides a really good example of the distorted,
skewed, and outright nutty "I BELIEVE ALL CONSPIRACY CRAP THAT'S EVER
BEEN UNEARTHED SINCE 1963" mindset that so many CT-Kooks seem to
adhere to re. the JFK murder case.
It's quite remarkable the number of people who have this same type of
ultra-cynical and vomit-inducing "I Can Prove A Conspiracy, Despite
The Lack Of Any HARD Evidence" attitude. And every time I hear one of
these kooks open his yap, it makes me think how correct Vince Bugliosi
was when he said this......
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"One of the principal frailties in the thinking processes of the
theorists is that they rarely ever carry their suspicions, which are
based on some discrepancy, anomaly, or contradiction they find, to
their logical conclusion. For them, if something looks suspicious,
that's enough. Instead of asking, "Where does this go?"--that is,
where does the discrepancy, contradiction, or whatever, lead them?--
they immediately give their minds a breather and conclude that what
they find is itself proof of a conspiracy (or proof that Oswald is
innocent). The discrepancy or contradiction is the ENTIRE story. And
being the entire story, it by itself discredits the entire twenty-six
volumes of the Warren Commission. Nothing else has to be shown or even
argued." -- VB
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The 22-year-old kook who wrote the blog linked above has the Kong-
sized balls (but not a shred of hard evidence, of course) to spout the
following hunk of garbage:
"{Bugliosi's} lies are so transparent that I, a 22-year-old on a
computer, can refute them immediately. All of this is off the top of
my head. I'm not alone either; as he acknowledges, 75% of the American
people are having the same thought process as they read his
condescending pablum."
The kook goes on to talk about every crazy conspiracy theory
imaginable (including the Lifton-esque "body altering" fairy tale,
which isn't too big on the "Nutty" scale to deter that CTer; he'll go
for any theory).
The 22-year-old whiz-CT-kid also says that it's his opinion that
"very, very few conspiracy historians claim that Oswald fired any
shots". That opinion is positively wrong, as a 2003 National poll
shows (only 7% polled on the matter thought Oswald was NOT a shooter
in Dealey Plaza). .....
http://www.pollingreport.com/news2.htm#Kennedy
It's true that a good-sized portion of CT-Kooks who hang out at forums
like this one are members of the "Anybody But Oswald" club. But the
vast majority of Americans, as can be seen via the poll above, are not
so stupid to think that Lee Oswald never fired a shot at Kennedy (or
Tippit) in 1963.
I wonder what additional inane, unprovable theories that 22-year-old
will believe in by the time he turns 50?
(~Shudders at the possibilities~)
David Von Pein
theories are lumped into one small- or medium-sized blog post...e.g.,
Kennedy's body was altered; Oz was just a patsy and was framed; Oz
never fired a shot; no shots came from the rear (which is really,
really crazy, but that's what that kook above proposes); the SBT,
therefore, is bunk; the CIA was involved; the WC and ALL Govt.
entities "covered up" the assassination; Ruby rubbed out Oz as part of
a plot; etc., etc. to CT infinity.
"Sublime silliness", as VB puts it. Sounds about right to me. Or, to
be more blunt.....the kooks who believe ALL that shit are just plain
nuts!
doug.w...@gmail.com
Gentlemen, I'm sure it is marked on your calendars; July 8 will be the
50th anniversary of the Roswell, New Mexico UFO crash. Perhaps there
will be a suprise guest appearance, just as there was in 1947 (yet a
safer landing for our little alien friends this time), at this years'
festivities.
doug.w...@gmail.com
> assassination that says he was killed by the military because he was
> about to blow the lid on the Roswell Incident and reveal that our
> government had captured these martians and their craft and had
> "reverse engineered" some weapons systems we found.
That might explain the $400 toliet seats that our military procurred
for use. Damn, I should have known that was no accident.
>
> This is slightly more sensible than Healy's theory that the Zapruder
> film was altered.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
David Von Pein
And October 4th, 2007, will represent the 50th anniversary of Sputnik
I being launched by the Soviets. And Oswald was in the military in
'57. And 2 years later he defected to the USSR, which launched Sputnik
in '57.
Somebody look into this angle. I smell a Sputnik plot here. Oswald
must have given the Russians some kind of "intelligence" so that they
could launch the very first satellite before the U.S. could. Damn
Soviets. Damn Oswald.
On a lighter note, 10/4/57 also marked the debut of one of the best
family TV shows ever aired. Maybe "The Beaver" was in on the Sputnik
plot too. Who can tell? He was only a lil' shaver in '57. But little
boys can be "used" as patsies too, can't they? ;)
doug.w...@gmail.com
> Better make that the 60th anniversary, Doug. 1947-2007.
>
> And October 4th, 2007, will represent the 50th anniversary of Sputnik
> I being launched by the Soviets. And Oswald was in the military in
> '57. And 2 years later he defected to the USSR, which launched Sputnik
> in '57.
>
> Somebody look into this angle. I smell a Sputnik plot here. Oswald
> must have given the Russians some kind of "intelligence" so that they
> could launch the very first satellite before the U.S. could. Damn
> Soviets. Damn Oswald.
>
> On a lighter note, 10/4/57 also marked the debut of one of the best
> family TV shows ever aired. Maybe "The Beaver" was in on the Sputnik
> plot too. Who can tell? He was only a lil' shaver in '57. But little
> boys can be "used" as patsies too, can't they? ;)
>
Oh crap, I'm not as young as I thought I was. Thanks, DVP. Honest
mistake, no cover-up intended.
David Von Pein
You're forgiven. But remember -- No Takebacks! If you said it, IT MUST
STAND FOR LIFE. Just like Dr. Perry in '63. He said "entry wound" on
11/22; so it cannot be taken back, or looked at as a simple early
mistake made by a doctor who was in no way whatsoever examining the
wounds to decide from whence they came.
And what about that Sputnik thing? That's got me worried.
And remember, too, Abe Zapruder was born in Russia.
And that first "Leave It To Beaver" DVD set came out--are you ready
for this?--on November 22, 2005! No way that's mere "coincidence". Not
with the Sputnik/Oct. 4th tie-in in there too.
I'm melting from paranoia. Somebody get me Vince, quick. ;)
lazu...@webtv.net
on is Dumya, Bugliosi and Alfredo...
lazu...@webtv.net
brainwashed by Bugliosi who has feet made of clay ...
Bud
And if this is as good as that thinking gets, he needs someone to
do his thinking for him.
>you lone nutters have been competely
> brainwashed by Bugliosi who has feet made of clay ...
<snicker> The kooks are so afraid of Bug`s book. If people become
more knowledgeable about the case, the kook hold on public opinion
will weaken.
David Von Pein
Yeah...that's his main problem it would seem -- i.e., WAY too much
"thinking for himself". Problem is: None of it is rooted in solid,
verifiable evidence. None.*
* = Although I should really qualify that statement to the point of
near eradication....because that 22-yr.-old know-it-all CTer really
isn't "thinking for himself" at all. He's merely repeating the same
tired decades-worn mantra of conspiracy clowns of the past.
Just look at his blog. It's obvious he's fallen into every CT gopher
hole ever opened up since '63. Every one. (And probably a lot more he
didn't elaborate on in his medium-sized blog posting I linked).
So, no, he's not really thinking for himself at all...he's repeating
the skewed, unsupportable thinking of Garrison, Stone, Marrs, Groden,
and Lifton, etc.
(Poor sap.)
>>> "You lone nutters have been competely brainwashed by Bugliosi..." <<<
Go back to my hundreds of posts written in the pre-"Reclaiming
History" era, and then tell me if Mr. Bugliosi "brainwashed" me.
I was an LNer years prior to VB's book being published, and even years
prior to ever combing the Internet for pre-book release quotes from
Vince re. the JFK case. .....
I've been "brainwashed" by the hard evidence in this case. That's all.
But...speaking of being brainwashed:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/22e70f88404a998b