McADAMS SHOWS IGNORANCE AGAIN

[tom...@cox.net]

if you had read the 26 volumes john;

you would have known that tippit was pronounced dead at 1:15 at the
hospital.

so. helen markham's timing of 1111:07 or 08 is correct because it took time
fto notify police on tippit's radio, time for ambulasnce to arrive, time
for ambulance to get to hospital, time for doctors to pronounce him dead.
that was done at 1:15.








John McAdams <john.m...@marquette.edu> wrote:
> On 2 Jun 2013 21:23:19 -0400, wgroom <wgr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 2, 2:45 pm, John McAdams <john.mcad...@marquette.edu> wrote:
> >> On 2 Jun 2013 14:32:19 -0400, curtjester1 <curtjest...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Who besides Craig gave the 1:06 time for Tippit? Quotes,
> >> >> please!
> >>
> >> >Helen Markham, Doris Holan, and a Mrs. Higgins.....all 1:06 er's with
> >> >Craig. All can be looked at online.
> >>
> >> Are you aware that, in a March 1968 interview with the LOS ANGELES
> >> FREE PRESS, Craig said that Tippit was shot at "about 1:40," and then
> >> he allows Penn Jones to correct him to 1:15?
> >>
> >> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/images/craigandjonespage10.jpg
> >>
> >> But let me guess: you will blow this off. You simply flatly refuse
> >> to believe anything that impeaches your pet witness.
> >>
> >
> >I don't blow it off. It's seems dubious on the outset, as I stated 2
> >months after that Craig was with a prominent author saying he saw the
> >Mauser, and there is no credibility that JFK researchers can hold their
> >hat on for the newspaper or the journalist.
>
> But you refuse to give a citation for that.
>
> Don't you understand that *everybody* believes you are bluffing, and
> don't have any such citation?
>
> People who flatly refuse to produce evidence simply won't be believed.
>
> You can't win an argument with a bluff. You have been called on it.
>
> >There is no follow up,
> >verifications from Craig, Jones, or the newspaper as far as I have seen.
> >And you want to call this a pet witness?
> >
>
> Tranalation: you are not going to believe anything that impeaches
> your pet witness.
>
> .John
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[David Von Pein]

How could Tippit be DOA at 1:15? The ambulance didn't even get to 10th
Street until about 1:19. Check the DPD radio logs. (Let me
guess...these are fake too? Right?)

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm

[wgroom]

On Jun 3, 10:41 pm, tom...@cox.net wrote:
> if you had read the 26 volumes john;
>
> you would have known that tippit was pronounced dead at 1:15 at the
> hospital.
>
> so. helen markham's timing of 1111:07 or 08 is correct because it took time
> fto notify police on tippit's radio, time for ambulasnce to arrive, time
> for ambulance to get to hospital, time for doctors to pronounce him dead.
> that was done at 1:15.
>
>
>
>
>

When he was dead can mean it could have been minutes before it was
called in. It takes time to come upon the scene, and think about a
radio call. Threee people are verified at the scene as
1:06...Markham, and two witnesses that were found that came
forward...Doris Holan , and Mrs. Higgins...they both said 1:06, which
means he was killed about 1:05. Bowley arrived at 1:10 and figured
out the radio, but that's not the first time DPD was notified. Two
ladies ...Mrs. Wright and where the killer crossed the lawn's gal,
called in. Those records were never brought up, but you can be sure
that it was news at 1:06 at DPD and was radioed to the TSBD where they
notified Fritz as they found the rifle, and as Craig looked at his
watch....which read 1:06.

CJ

[wgroom]

The National Archives has the original 1:10 call, and trying to figure
out when someone was carted off, makes little difference to when they
died.

CJ

[David Von Pein]

Earth to CJ/wgroom---

If the ambulance didn't get to 10th St. until 1:19, then Tippit COULD
NOT have been "Dead On Arrival [AT METHODIST HOSPITAL]" at 1:15.

That's pretty simple math you just flunked.

[curtjester1]

curtjester1




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More options Oct 9 2010, 11:09 pm

Jasper Clayton Butler - In 1977 interview, the ambulance driver
stated
the time he received the dispatch to the time of death at Methodist
Hospital was 4 minutes which would have made the time of death prior
to 1:11.

M.D. Liquori - The medical doctor who wrote the time at Methodist
Hospital for the Tippit time of death as 1:15


T.F. Bowley - In an affidavit of Dec. 2, 1963 stated he looked at his
watch on the scene of arrival of the Tippit murder and it was 1:10.
Bowley picked up his daughter each day at the R.L. Thornton
Elementary
school at 12:55 and his wife at Zangs and Ninth. The elementary
school is 16 minutes on Google Maps time estimates to go the slow way
down Marsalis, which it appears that Bowley went. It's 12 or 13
minute ETA's if you go the two other freeway ways.

Helen Markham - Left her Washeteria at 1:04 to start her journey to
work. She lived one block from the place she stopped to witness the
murder.

Original DPD Transcripts - The original DPD transcript was 1:10 for
the call in. The later was changed to 1:19.


CJ

[tom...@cox.net]

David Von Pein <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> Earth to CJ---

>
> If the ambulance didn't get to 10th St. until 1:19, then Tippit COULD
> NOT have been "Dead On Arrival [AT METHODIST HOSPITAL]" at 1:15.
>

>TIPPIT WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD AT METHODIST HOSPITAL AT 1:15.

THE WARR5EN COMMISSION USED THEAT TIME AS THE TIME OF THE SHOOING...

That's pretty simple math you just flunked, Jester.

[David Von Pein]

>>> "The original DPD transcript was 1:10 for the call in...later was changed to 1:19." <<<

I sure would love for a CTer to produce this 1:10 ambulance dispatch.
That would be the bombshell that would prove Tippit was killed before
1:10.

Of course, nobody will ever produce it, because it doesn't exist--and
never did.

And there's also the Dudley Hughes ambulance slip, which Hughes
stamped in a time clock at "1:18 PM" [see "With Malice", page 101].

So the Hughes slip must be a forgery too, if the CTers are right.

[tom...@cox.net]

David Von Pein <davev...@aol.com> wrote:

i sure do "N oy" accept with malice as an official source...

[tom...@cox.net]

tom...@cox.net wrote:
> David Von Pein <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >>> "The original DPD transcript was 1:10 for the call in...later was
> > >>> changed to 1:19." <<<
> >
> > I sure would love for a CTer to produce this 1:10 ambulance dispatch.
> > That would be the bombshell that would prove Tippit was killed before
> > 1:10.
> >
> > Of course, nobody will ever produce it, because it doesn't exist--and
> > never did.
> >
> > And there's also the Dudley Hughes ambulance slip, which Hughes
> > stamped in a time clock at "1:18 PM" [see "With Malice", page 101].
> >
> > So the Hughes slip must be a forgery too, if the CTers are right.
>

> i sure do "Not" accept with malice as an official source...

[Jason Burke]

On 6/5/2013 3:22 PM, tom...@cox.net wrote:
> David Von Pein <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> "The original DPD transcript was 1:10 for the call in...later was
>>>>> changed to 1:19." <<<
>>
>> I sure would love for a CTer to produce this 1:10 ambulance dispatch.
>> That would be the bombshell that would prove Tippit was killed before
>> 1:10.
>>
>> Of course, nobody will ever produce it, because it doesn't exist--and
>> never did.
>>
>> And there's also the Dudley Hughes ambulance slip, which Hughes
>> stamped in a time clock at "1:18 PM" [see "With Malice", page 101].
>>
>> So the Hughes slip must be a forgery too, if the CTers are right.
>
> i sure do "N oy" accept with malice as an official source...
>

Oy, vey!