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tomnln

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Sep 24, 2007, 2:34:46 PM9/24/07
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tomnln

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Sep 25, 2007, 1:57:57 PM9/25/07
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It was NEVER explained chuckie.

There isn't a one of you LN's who will address evidence/testimony.

http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm

YOU tell us why the balck bar was placed "Where most of the action takes
place"/


"chuck schuyler" <chu...@am-mtg.com> wrote in message
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> Tom:
>
> Do you believe the black bar is actually on the extant Zfilm?
>
> Wasn't this explained to you in excruciating detail at aaj. earlier
> this year?
>
> What the heck is your problem?
>
> There is no mystery here, Tom...other than your idiotic lack of
> commonsense.
>

Martin Shackelford

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Sep 26, 2007, 4:37:36 AM9/26/07
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As noted, it isn't in the original film or any of the clear copies of the
original film.
Why belabor this red herring?

Martin

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Ben Holmes

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Sep 26, 2007, 9:40:17 AM9/26/07
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In article <kToKi.1949$6p6....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Martin Shackelford
says...

>
>As noted, it isn't in the original film or any of the clear copies of the
>original film.
>Why belabor this red herring?
>
>Martin

Tell us about the splice that *IS* seen in one of the copies, Martin.

You know, the one that it between the authenticating detail of the punched 0183,
and the motorcade sequence.

That you *CONTINUE* to run from this illustrates just how weak your stance (that
the extant Z-film is authentic) truly is.

cdddraftsman

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Sep 26, 2007, 2:25:33 PM9/26/07
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On Sep 24, 11:34 am, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> (Snipped)

Rossley's New Home Page :
http://tomrossley.home.comcast.net/
_________________________________________

Just for a laugher ! :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4yfgwv7
_________________________________________


Six More Years Baby , Six More Years !
_________________________________________


Rossley breaks down and admits LHO killed
JFK all by his lonesome and many more startling
admissions by the worlds foremost authority on
' Who Didn't Kill JFK ' ! :
_________________________________


http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4mrh5dd
Nikita Rossley " I'll Bury You With Insults "
--------------------------------------------------


http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=63t0os5&s=1
In case McAdam's don't this one :


-------------------------------------------------------------
This is for Rossley tendency to be collecting butt hair samples
for his huge collection at the butt end of every post !
Apparentlly He sells em in nickel bags along the I-80 !
-------------------------------------------------------------


Rossley wanted for me to pass this along , just
" In Case McAdam's Don't Post This One "
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4pwkzde&s=1


______________________________________________


Still to address his crimes here :


Gay Sewer Men Assassins Do Dallas ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4y9zy12
LHO : I want my lawyer ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4r7trb6
Conspiray Cow Patties / 25ct (Cheap ! ) :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4mrcew6
Rossley's Senile Senior Scooter :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=63mbg4h
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6ah0yvc
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4ue41th
Hijacked ! Battle To Find *Rubba Lips* Stolen Brain :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=508eeli
Prickmobile :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=53ylqvl
Boner Land :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4uemanm
Rocket Man : Lone Proves SBT Impossible :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=62dd2xw
Benny ' The Dwarf ' Holmes's John Welsh Hodges :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4vn15sn
Message from the CIA : Eat your Kookies ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4vd43mb
Sak ' 0 ' Nuts :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4po8jz5
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=53ifbih
Read Your Scriptures You Abominations ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4p482g6
Limbo man ! :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=4502jwp
Grassey Knoll Investigations :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3yefvjp
His overwhelming hatred of me for
exposing his seditionistic attitudes :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2qks4s3
His site is always under Con-Struction :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2l9jfrl
Rossley is Mad ! :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2yy6vph
Speculating with the Bushman :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2q9i4r5
Osama Bin Rossley on LIFE mag. cover :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=33lcx05
His version of the ' Official Records ' :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=29ers7r
A Thank You Card from MJ :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2ephdsm
Caught in the Act ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ewiikz
Will sell you your version of the ' Deed ' :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4d4g17o
Rossley in DPD Jail ! Hahahahahahaha ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d8pf2h
Conn. Registered Sex Offender :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2f0c32w
With Fetzer :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3yrvimd
His ' catchers ' list :
Rossley in DPD Jail ! Hahahahahahaha ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d8pf2h
Conn. Registered Sex Offender :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2f0c32w
With Fetzer :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3yrvimd
His ' catchers ' list :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=40f6ro8
Rossley / Groden :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=34eqn40
Originally a ' Skid Row Artist ' :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=48bzfyg
His idea of humor : AKA : A Sick Joke :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ziszux
Rossley , Officer Baker and Gentle Ben :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=331oqbq
Another of Rossley's Client's :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2lxgpb7
OBR on LIFE mag. cover ! :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2drhs2x
Caught in the Act ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ewiikz
Will sell you your version of the ' Deed ' :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4d4g17o
Rossley in DPD Jail ! Hahahahahahaha ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d8pf2h
Conn. Registered Sex Offender :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2f0c32w
Rossley , Officer Baker and Gentle Ben :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=331oqbq
Another of Rossley's Client's :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2lxgpb7
The Great Debate :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3zbyruv
Rossley's ' Stupid Pills ' :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2zfu5px
Cat Torture at the Rosslenuts Insanitorium ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6bm6u54
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6c6ja5k
Wanted for Conspiracy and Treason :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=49068o8
What he did in Vietnam :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2v3it01
His life story :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2vdfy9z
Gay Sewer Men Assassins Do Dallas ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4y9zy12
LHO : I want my lawyer ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4r7trb6
Conspiray Cow Patties / 25ct (Cheap ! ) :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4mrcew6
Rossley's Senile Senior Scooter :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=63mbg4h
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6ah0yvc
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4ue41th
Hijacked ! Battle To Find *Rubba Lips* Stolen Brain :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=508eeli
Prickmobile :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=53ylqvl
Boner Land :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4uemanm
Rocket Man : Lone Proves SBT Impossible :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=62dd2xw
Benny ' The Dwarf ' Holmes's John Welsh Hodges :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4vn15sn
Message from the CIA : Eat your Kookies ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4vd43mb
Sak ' 0 ' Nuts :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4po8jz5
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=53ifbih
Read Your Scriptures You Abominations ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4p482g6
Limbo man ! :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=4502jwp
Grassey Knoll Investigations :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3yefvjp
His overwhelming hatred of me for
exposing his seditionistic attitudes :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2qks4s3
His site is always under Con-Struction :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2l9jfrl
Rossley is Mad ! :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2yy6vph
Speculating with the Bushman :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2q9i4r5
Osama Bin Rossley on LIFE mag. cover :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=33lcx05
His version of the ' Official Records ' :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=29ers7r
A Thank You Card from MJ :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2ephdsm
Caught in the Act ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ewiikz
Will sell you your version of the ' Deed ' :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4d4g17o
Rossley in DPD Jail ! Hahahahahahaha ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d8pf2h
Conn. Registered Sex Offender :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2f0c32w
With Fetzer :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3yrvimd
His ' catchers ' list :
Rossley in DPD Jail ! Hahahahahahaha ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d8pf2h
Conn. Registered Sex Offender :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2f0c32w
With Fetzer :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3yrvimd
His ' catchers ' list :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=40f6ro8
Rossley / Groden :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=34eqn40
Originally a ' Skid Row Artist ' :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=48bzfyg
His idea of humor : AKA : A Sick Joke :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ziszux
Rossley , Officer Baker and Gentle Ben :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=331oqbq
Another of Rossley's Client's :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2lxgpb7
OBR on LIFE mag. cover ! :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2drhs2x
Caught in the Act ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ewiikz
Will sell you your version of the ' Deed ' :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=4d4g17o
Rossley in DPD Jail ! Hahahahahahaha ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d8pf2h
Conn. Registered Sex Offender :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2f0c32w
Rossley , Officer Baker and Gentle Ben :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=331oqbq
Another of Rossley's Client's :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2lxgpb7
The Great Debate :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=3zbyruv
Rossley's ' Stupid Pills ' :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2zfu5px
Cat Torture at the Rosslenuts Insanitorium ! :
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6bm6u54
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6c6ja5k
Wanted for Conspiracy and Treason :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=49068o8
What he did in Vietnam :
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2v3it01
His life story :
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=2vdfy9z


tomnln

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Sep 26, 2007, 2:32:42 PM9/26/07
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NO Mystery here chuckie.

You NEVER address any of your own evidence/testimony.

Spend less time with those 17 Uncles you call "Uncle Dick".

Wanna try the NEW one?

THAT THE TIPPIT SHELLS CAME FROM 3 DIFFERENT WEAPONS?

http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm

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tomnln

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Sep 26, 2007, 2:38:47 PM9/26/07
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What an Asshole WCR Apologist;

They Blew-Up the frames so you wouldn't see the black bar from JBC's chin
down to his belly button.

WHY don't you explain the Blown up frames when they come out from behind the
sign/first light pole?

http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm

Now, Earn your 30 peices of Silver & explain it.


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tomnln

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Sep 26, 2007, 2:41:56 PM9/26/07
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lowery lost her/his virginity to his 17 uncles when she/he was 9 years old.

lowery refers to all 17 as "Uncle Dick".

lowery even built a SHRINE to all of them.

Found HERE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/tom_lowery.htm

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Martin Shackelford

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Sep 28, 2007, 6:48:13 AM9/28/07
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You don't argue evidence, you only insult--and fling around false claims.
I've never been a "WCR Apologist"--you do more harm to real research than
they ever could.
The comparison to Judas? As the Bible says, look first at the mote in your
own eye.

Martin

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Ben Holmes

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Sep 28, 2007, 9:42:21 AM9/28/07
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In article <NZ4Li.9355$JD....@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>, Martin Shackelford
says...

>
>You don't argue evidence, you only insult--and fling around false claims.

Martin refuses to argue the evidence also. In fact, Martin refuses to even
*respond* to real evidence... such as the copy of the extant Z-film that shows a
splice between the punched number and the motorcade sequence...

To the best of my recall - Martin has NEVER breathed so much as one word in
response to that major problem.


>I've never been a "WCR Apologist"--you do more harm to real research than
>they ever could.


Martin does, however; emulate many LNT'er tactics...


>The comparison to Judas? As the Bible says, look first at the mote in your
>own eye.


Sadly, there's no comparison with real CT'ers... Real CT'ers have no need of
constant top-posting, refusing to answer the evidence, refusal to cite, outright
lying about eyewitness testimony, and near constant ducking and running away
from posts that detail the evidence.

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tomnln

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Sep 28, 2007, 12:31:48 PM9/28/07
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I post ONLY evidence/testimony from the 26 volumes.
(you can't address)

I post insults ONLY in Retaliation.
(from which You are NOT Immune)

NOW, tell us WHY they put a black bar across the frames where "most of the
action takes place"?

http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm
From page 68 of HSCA volume I

Now, Earn your 30 peices of Silver & explain it.


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tomnln

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Sep 28, 2007, 12:34:06 PM9/28/07
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STILL NOT EXPLAINED.

"chuck schuyler" <chu...@am-mtg.com> wrote in message

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>> > commonsense.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> In case McAdams aint gonna not don't post this:
>
> What "action" do you think "took place" at the bottom of the film?
>
> Any witness accounts about the limo being charged by midgets?
>

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tomnln

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Sep 29, 2007, 12:56:15 AM9/29/07
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Thanks for opening the door to trading insults.

WRONG Child Molester;

Nobody has EVER offered WHY the black bar was placed at the bottom of the
frames
"where most of the action takes place".

NOW, do you wanna address the shells from the Tippit murder came from 3
different weapons?

http://whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm

"chuck schuyler" <chu...@am-mtg.com> wrote in message

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>> > Any witness accounts about the limo being charged by midgets?- Hide

>> > quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>

> In case McAdams aint gonna not dont post this:
>
> Tom, it has been explained to you patiently and politely. It has been
> explained to you with insults and sarcasm.
>
> I found posts at aaj. where Chad Zimmerman and others actually took
> time to really try and and explain the black bars thing to you, and
> you are just impervious to any reasoning.
>
> You have been invited to review your *ahem* research and share with
> other interested posters what the significance of your "black bars"
> is.
>
> You don't engage anyone in any debate.
>
> You are a silly, shrill "Hate"triot.
>
> You stink.
>

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tomnln

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Sep 29, 2007, 12:42:03 PM9/29/07
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You forgot to mention actually SEEING the black bar.

As for your Bullshit, Let people see for themselves>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm


As for your insults; You're a KOOK-SUCKER.
(sorry bout the typo)


"chuck schuyler" <chu...@am-mtg.com> wrote in message

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> In case McAdams dont aint wont not gonna post this.
>
> 1.) Go to the moderated board.
>
> 2.) Type "Black bars Zapruder film" or something similar, and all of
> the posts from four years ago right up 'till January of this year come
> up.
>
> Squinty Magoo tried to help you out. Here's what he wrote earlier this
> year at the moderated board in response to your lame claims:
>
> "Aaaaaarrrrrrggggghhhh. You make my eyes hurt. There are several
> problems
> with your representation and interpretation of things appearing on
> your
> web site.
>
> First, Groden never says black bars have been added to the photos or
> the
> Zapruder film itself. His black bar comments are directed at TV
> cameras
> filming the event. He suggests that those cameras leave "a black
> border
> at the bottom" of THEIR filming--so that they won't lose the "great
> deal
> of action" happening at the bottom of the frame.
>
> Nor does he say a black bar is blocking any action at the frame
> bottom. To
> the contrary, he points out that action is happening there and wants
> to
> ensure all of it is captured on TV, so he specifically warns them in
> advance to align THEIR cameras low so that THEY lose none of this
> action.
> It is beyond my comprehension how this has been twisted into his
> testifying that "black bars have been added to block the action at
> the
> bottom of the frame."
>
> Next, of course you realize all the HSCA photos you post are
> enlargements
> which have been cropped. Comparing these photos with any of the
> full-frame versions of Zapruder widely available on the web make this
> painfully obvious. You must know this as you state you have a copy of
> the
> film.
>
> Even so, you state on your site "Last Normal size frame below
> (F-247)."There is nothing "normal" about this photo--it is certainly
> not a
> full-frame from the film. And it is no less "zoomed" than any of the
> other frames depicted on your site.
>
> You have a similar problem when you state "black bar gone (F-262) No
> longer Zoom." In fact, F-262 is just as much "zoomed" (enlarged) as
> F-260. There is simply no difference in image size or field of view.
> Likewise, neither of these photos depicts a "normal" (full-frame)
> Zapruder
> frame.
>
> Finally, you are no doubt aware that the reason the action takes place
> at
> the bottom of the frame in several frames is because Zapruder just did
> not
> pan accurately while tracking the limo, not because of some mystery
> "zooming" or black bars being added. Elm Street simply slopes down
> from
> left to right of Zapruder's position and he panned the camera on a
> nearly
> horizontal plane for a time. Add in the additional factor of his
> being on
> full-zoom with the limo getting closer (and its image larger) and you
> have
> less room for error.
>
> Examine, for example, full frames 262 - 277, where the limo occupants
> slip
> perilously close to dropping out of the frame. Notice the lampost is
> visible to the same extent in each frame, ruling out zooming. (Also,
> the
> background is the same in those frames. If the limo occupants appear
> bigger in succeeding frames, it's because they're getting closer to
> the
> camera. But in no event do they change size abnormally.) Nor is the
> image cropped up from the bottom with sinister black bars.
>
> This is much ado about nothing."
>
> (end)
>
> Now...there are dozens of answers to your questions at aaj. Why do you
> lie and claim no one has answered you? You're pathetic and filled with
> hate. You hate this country, and the Kennedy family. You're a Hate-
> triot. People like you turned his presidency into a cartoon because
> you just won't let this rest.
>
> You stink.
>
> And you're stupid, too.
>

rwa...@despammed.com

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Sep 29, 2007, 9:35:03 PM9/29/07
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On Sep 29, 12:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> You forgot to mention actually SEEING the black bar.
>
> As for your Bullshit, Let people see for themselves>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm
>
>

God, you're an idiot.


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tomnln

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Sep 29, 2007, 11:03:25 PM9/29/07
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rwalker;

Is this an indication that you wish to trade insults with me?


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tomnln

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"chuck schuyler" <chu...@am-mtg.com> wrote in message
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>> > And you're stupid, too.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Tom:
>
> Why do you waste time on this black bar thing?
>
> It isn't on the original Zapruder film or the copies immediately made
> from it.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Then, YOU tell us what "action" was at the bottom of the frames?

> It's been explained to you. No one is trying to spin anything. People
> went out of their way to answer you without insults. They gave you
> references, timelines for the film, what the black bars are and when
> they were added, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> You have been posting this bogus claim for FOUR YEARS! It's just
> dumb, Tom.
>
> Move on, Woodchipper.

Stop Dodging the question woodchipper dinner.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sam Brown

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Sep 30, 2007, 1:27:17 AM9/30/07
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<rwa...@despammed.com> wrote in message
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You're being a bit tough on idiots. Even they have *some* dignity. Toothless
is in a league of his own. He should be studied.


>
>

justm...@gmail.com

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Sep 30, 2007, 8:15:41 AM9/30/07
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On Sep 30, 1:27 am, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote in message
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It's apparent Rossley is only here to invite others to trade insults
with him. He neglects to read or acknowledge any debates about
evidence when it's proving him wrong. Same actions he uses in his chat
room. To think that a dozen cockroaches could live a longer life
breathing the air this bag of wind Rossley wastes by remaining in
existance is sad. The cockroaches would get more respect.

Martin Shackelford

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This is about the sort of response I expected you to make to what was a
well-informed post.

Martin

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On Sep 30, 9:37 am, "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@sbcglobal.net>
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> >> And you're stupid, too.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Would you expect anything less from Rossley, Martin? In Rossleys
world it's his way or no way, doesn't matter who makes the post. The
only time he'll agree with anyone is when it's something he hasn't
thought of first, and usually its some ridiculous post made by Gil
Jesus. Example: JFK coughing up a bullet nonsense! Rossley isn't
worth the colostomy bag he fills daily.

Gil Jesus

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On Sep 24, 2:34?pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm
>
> Oh Lucy; I think you got some 'splainin to do
>
> More Black Bar on "Z" Film in Video Form.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isekB2oOG8&mode=related&search=
>
> MORE ALTERATION
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-rcdBNFnGs&mode=related&search
>
> MORE ALTERATION
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-rcdBNFnGs

Tom, the "black bar" and the green grass growing on the side of the
car is proof of alteration.

We see both in this closeup picture of Z-312:

http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/13a0xoPwH9cxa3KrDAl1dkO-zKzFn-V2L*RUv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

Notice also that I've drawn circles in the skull at approximately
where the witnesses said there was a small hole in the front of the
skull and a large wound at the rear fo the skull.

Now when we connect those holes, we get this trajectory:

http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/13a0xoPwH9cxa3KrDAl1dkO-zG3*NPpze7vwv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

Tom Wilson claimed that his research showed that the source of the
shot was coming out of the ground. It appears that the source was
coming from the direction of the floorboard.

When you put the locations of the wounds as described by the witnesses
together with Z-312, the source of the shot becomes one of the two
people in Nellie Connally's jump seat.

http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/13a0xoPwH9cxa3KrDAl1dkO-zG3*NPpze7vwv4xQp5Fd3Ig=_l.jpg

My opinion is that it was never covered up on the original fake
because it wasn't obvious on the original fake. When the blowups were
made, the source became obvious and so black bar was added with the
grass growing on the side of the car.

Add to this that it was "known" that John Connally carried a handgun
strapped to his ankle.

That Connally was the one who controlled the Dallas luncheon site and
thus the motorcade route.

Would Connally have gotten into the limo after plotting the JFK
murder ? My question is, DID HE HAVE A CHOICE ? Refuse to get into the
car and expose the plot and face jail, or go along and hope your
shooters don't miss ?

In addition, Johnson TRIED to get him out of the limo on the morning
of the assassination, but Kennedy refused.

And when he was hit, what did he yell out ? "My God, they're going to
kill us all !!"
What they ?
And who did he think they were going to kill if not "us all" ?

In addition, Connally's coat was locked away by Johnson aide Cliff
Carter and eventually cleaned to remove the gunpowder residue from it.
Residue that would have proven that Connally was at the very least
CLOSE to the source of the shot.

Was it John or Nellie Connally who pulled the trigger for the last
shot ?

The extant film doesn't represent the wounds to Kennedy's head as
described by the witnesses. You can believe that either the film was
tampered with, or all of the witnesses were wrong about what they saw.

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On Sep 30, 11:00 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 24, 2:34?pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm
>
> > Oh Lucy; I think you got some 'splainin to do
>
> > More Black Bar on "Z" Film in Video Form.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isekB2oOG8&mode=related&search=
>
> > MORE ALTERATION
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-rcdBNFnGs&mode=related&search
>
> > MORE ALTERATION
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-rcdBNFnGs
>
> Tom, the "black bar" and the green grass growing on the side of the
> car is proof of alteration.
>
> We see both in this closeup picture of Z-312:
>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/13a0xoPwH9cxa3KrDAl1dkO-zKzFn-V2L*R...

>
> Notice also that I've drawn circles in the skull at approximately
> where the witnesses said there was a small hole in the front of the
> skull and a large wound at the rear fo the skull.
>
> Now when we connect those holes, we get this trajectory:
>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/13a0xoPwH9cxa3KrDAl1dkO-zG3*NPpze7v...

>
> Tom Wilson claimed that his research showed that the source of the
> shot was coming out of the ground. It appears that the source was
> coming from the direction of the floorboard.
>
> When you put the locations of the wounds as described by the witnesses
> together with Z-312, the source of the shot becomes one of the two
> people in Nellie Connally's jump seat.
>
> http://links.pictures.aol.com/pic/13a0xoPwH9cxa3KrDAl1dkO-zG3*NPpze7v...

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Oh man, now he has
Nellie as a suspect. Jesus you better seek mental help fast. I can't
believe you have the nerve to post something this outrageous. You'll
be the laughing stock of this newsgroup and if any of the CT's on here
so much as nod their head in agreement, then you all should be
committed to a mental institution. Gee wonder what the other forums
would think of this post, maybe I'll copy and paste it to show all JFK
researchers what a total idiotic lying moron you really are. (All of
us here already know that!) LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO omg this one
tops the cake!

tomnln

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If DYKES were capable of Study.....They would NOT be DYKES.

http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm

THAT's why they RUN from their own evidence/testimony.

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tomnln

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You are the one who has NEVER addresses even one issue of
evidence/testimony.

I Always offer these>>> http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm

Which you RUN from.

As for mthe insults....They were Started by YOU.
I asked if it was your desire to trade insults with me?

You were Stupid enough to say yes.

You've been a CRYING CUNT ever since.


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tomnln

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So Very Happy to see you got OFF the fence Martin.

Most of us knew you were a WCR Apologist for years.

Now we see you're an Apologist for Felon Supporters.

You don't look any better "Out of the Closet".

FACT is, they put a black bar across the frames. (where most of the action
takes place)


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tomnln

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I love it when CUNTS wanna trade Insults.

Maybe you should stick to evidence/testimony>>>

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tomnln

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WOW!
Spoken like an Expert;

Why haven't you given us your "Expert Opinion'" on these issues of
evidence/testimony?


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On Sep 30, 2:07 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> WOW!
> Spoken like an Expert;
>
> Why haven't you given us your "Expert Opinion'" on these issues of
> evidence/testimony?http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htmhttp://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htmhttp://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
> <justme1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > tops the cake!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Once again Rossley...you don't give any evidence or testimony worth
discussing. I don't give a rats ass about what you THINK is a lie and
what YOU think is the truth. Go bore someone else. If anyone is a
felon supporter its YOU.

tomnln

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That evidence/testimony comes from the WC's 26 volumes making it Official.

Proving the Felony of destruction of evidence.

You don't have the guts to address your own evidence/testimony.

We all know WHY you have no guts justme.
(you took a Big Step)

Keep those insults coming justme1952.

I Enjoy the RETALIATION.

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Sam Brown

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Holy Crap! Does that mean that when my partner operates on people she's not
actually qualified to do so? It's lucky she hasn't killed anyone! Thanks
Toothless, I'll be straight on to the authorities about this one! Oh by the
way, Ellen licks the windows of liquor stores. Silly bitch!


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Well Gilbert, you finally did it. You actually caused me physical pain. I've
been laughing so hard I think I've torn something! Nellie shot JFK & her
husband? What a load of shit!
\

>
>
>
>
>

tomnln

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She probably killed them with her AIDS.

That's why you're referred to as an ABOMINATION.

You're a SATANIC CUNT.

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Sam Brown

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Getting a little bit upset there Toothless? LOL

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On Sep 30, 10:47 pm, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Getting a little bit upset there Toothless? LOL
>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:18ZLi.293742$BX3.1...@newsfe13.lga...
>
>
>
> > She probably killed them with her AIDS.
>
> > That's why you're referred to as an ABOMINATION.
>
> > You're a SATANIC CUNT.
>
> >http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
> >http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
> >http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
> > "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

> >news:47005d94$3$1031$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >> Holy Crap! Does that mean that when my partner operates on people she's
> >> not actually qualified to do so? It's lucky she hasn't killed anyone!
> >> Thanks Toothless, I'll be straight on to the authorities about this one!
> >> Oh by the way, Ellen licks the windows of liquor stores. Silly bitch!
>
> >> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>news:MoRLi.12419$495....@newsfe22.lga...
> >>> If DYKES were capable of Study.....They would NOT be DYKES.
>
> >>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
> >>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
> >>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
> >>> THAT's why they RUN from their own evidence/testimony.
>
> >>> "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> >>>news:46ff33b7$0$18984$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> >>>> <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote in message

> >>>>news:1191116103.7...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> On Sep 29, 12:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> You forgot to mention actually SEEING the black bar.
>
> >>>>>> As for your Bullshit, Let people see for
> >>>>>> themselves>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm
>
> >>>>> God, you're an idiot.
>
> >>>> You're being a bit tough on idiots. Even they have *some* dignity.
> >>>> Toothless is in a league of his own. He should be studied.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Toothless thinks he's upsetting us by calling us cunts. I'm laughing
so hard at him being a stupid ignorant asshole I have tears in my
eyes. By the way toothless, I heard Ellen had to have her twat sewn
shut..when she was at the airport it created such a wind tunnel it
sucked in two 747's. Must be stretched out from all those tricks she
turns with big dicks....seeing how yours is the size of a babys
thumb. Sorry freaking PIG!

tomnln

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I never get upset....I GIVE Upset.

I never get upset over ABOMINATIONS.
I'm Superior to ABOMINATIONS
EVERYONE is Superior to ABOMINATIONS.

The Animal Kingdom is Superior to ABOMINATIONS.
Vegitation is Superior to ABOMINATIONS.

Evidence/Testimony is Superior to ABOMINATIONS.

The word CUNT Upsets you though.
It represents a Shriveled up Empty bag open at Both ends with NO Value.

THAT's why everything falls THROUGH IT.

The word CUNT Upsets you though.
evidence/testimony UPSET YOU BOTH.
The word CUNT Upsets you BOTH though.
evidence/testimony UPSET YOU BOTH.
The word CUNT Upsets you BOTH though.

I'll Keep UPSETTING you BOTH.
Maybe you'll BOTH get a Gov't Grant.

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All we have to do is throw out the line and reel him in! It's truly my
favourite pasttime!
>

Sam Brown

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Ellen is a big fat flabby smelly cunt.


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tomnln

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Glad to see the name CUNT don't bother you anymore.

I knew you were used to it since you were 11 years old.

ps;
Those 2 747's fell outta Your CUNT.

pps;
Everyone at the airport addressed evidence/testimony.

You Felon Supporters Refuse to.

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tomnln

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What would a DYKE know of Womanhood?

Even your Momma committed suicide when she found out you chose to be a DYKE.

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tomnln

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sam sam sam;

I used to be one of your FAVORITES Here before I asked you to address
evidence/testimony.

Did you have a Hysterectomy?
That's where the term Hysterical came from.

You know,
When you don't know up from down
When you don't know right from wrong.
When you don't know left from right.
When you don't know men from women.
When you don't know Idolize from hate.

Whatta Szchoid

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Sam Brown

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> sam sam sam;
>
> I used to be one of your FAVORITES Here before I asked you to address
> evidence/testimony.
>
> Did you have a Hysterectomy?
> That's where the term Hysterical came from.
>
> You know,
> When you don't know up from down
> When you don't know right from wrong.
> When you don't know left from right.
> When you don't know men from women.
> When you don't know Idolize from hate.

Can anybody say "Cuckoo"?

Sam Brown

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"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> What would a DYKE know of Womanhood?

You'd be surprised what you pick up along the way.

>
> Even your Momma committed suicide when she found out you chose to be a
> DYKE.

My "Momma"? Sorry, don't speak white trash here. My Mother loves me. Eat me
Toothless.
Ellen's a cunt

tomnln

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>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3h_Li.333748$dA7.2...@newsfe16.lga...
>> sam sam sam;
>>
>> I used to be one of your FAVORITES Here before I asked you to address
>> evidence/testimony.
>>
>> Did you have a Hysterectomy?
>> That's where the term Hysterical came from.
>>
>> You know,
>> When you don't know up from down
>> When you don't know right from wrong.
>> When you don't know left from right.
>> When you don't know men from women.
>> When you don't know Idolize from hate.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Can anybody say "Cuckoo"?

We ALL can say ABOMINATION.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

tomnln

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Nothing wrong with Loving an ABOMINATION.

Accepting an ABOMINATION is what will get Yo Momma sent to Hell.

Don't forget these>>>

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ps;

In public, you don't have to address me as GOD.


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> rwalker;
>
> Is this an indication that you wish to trade insults with me?

tomnln

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On Oct 2, 2:57 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> rwalker;
>
> Is this an indication that you wish to trade insults with me?
>
> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:hoELi.11721$495....@newsfe22.lga...
>
>
>
> > rwalker;
>
> > Is this an indication that you wish to trade insults with me?
>
> > <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote in message

> >news:1191116103.7...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Sep 29, 12:42 pm, "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> You forgot to mention actually SEEING the black bar.
>
> >>> As for your Bullshit, Let people see for
> >>> themselves>>>http://whokilledjfk.net/zapruder%20film.htm
>
> >> God, you're an idiot.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

ROFLMAO once again....you are an insult no one needs to trade them
with you....MORON!

tomnln

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You're STILL Runnin from your own evidence/testimony>>>


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Is rwalker Afraid to answer this one?

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> rwalker;
>
> Is this an indication that you wish to trade insults with me?
>
>
>
>

> <rwa...@despammed.com> wrote in message

Martin Shackelford

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I'm never on the fence--I just don't always fall off it in your direction.

Martin

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Martin Shackelford

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I love it when sexist idiots expose themselves.

Martin

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Puzzle: How can an abomination be superiod to abominations?

Martin

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Better than your Mad Cow, Tom.

Martin

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You've repeatedly revealed that you're a hater, not a thinker, Tom.
Maybe you should quit before you get any farther behind.

Martin

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HOW can you fall off it in ANY direction if you weren't on the Fence Martin?


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FINALLY off the fence you Felon Supporter.

While your into Name-Calling, Tell how many little boys a day you EAT?


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Hey SHACK-UP;

How come you didn't intervene when she STARTED the name calling?

How long have you defending WCR Supporters?


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By Golly;
It looks like Da Shack is Defending his wife.

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tomnln

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I don't hate Da Shack; I RETALIATE

You never took an interest when your WCR Supporter friends STARTED insulting
me.

I'm Proud to be the guy who Finnaly got you outta the Closet.

Remember Dicky-Licker....I RETALIATE


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Martin Shackelford

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I wouldn't even attempt to compete with you, Tom.

Martin

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Martin Shackelford

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Pathetic, as usual.

Martin

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Martin Shackelford

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I don't defend idiots, that's all.

Martin

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Martin Shackelford

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My friends aren't WC supporters--nor are they phony CT disinformationalists.

Martin

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tomnln

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You SURE did Start to compete when you took the First Cheap Shot at me.

If you wanna start a CIVIL exchange, I'll go along with it.

BUT, if you take any more Cheap Shots....I will Retaliate in kind.

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tomnln

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Looks like I'm Hurting the Criminals enough that they have to bring out
their SLEEPERS.

Would you care to defend these LIES of the WC?>>>

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tomnln

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You're the one who Started the Insults Chickenshit.

Are you a Brother ATHEIST to Bud?

Do you also Reject Scripture?

Would you care to defend these LIES of the WC?

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tomnln

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You make MORE Excuses for the lies of the WCR than Posner.
THAT puts you on their side.

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Martin Shackelford

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Another blatant lie--keep it up, Tom.

Martin

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Martin Shackelford

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You're a liar, Tom--but that comes as no surprise.
I've been consistently pro-conspiracy for decades--and remain so.
The fact that I don't fall for every idiot theory doesn't change that.

Martin

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tomnln

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I have NEVER offered a "Theory" Shack.

I post official records ONLY.

Not like you with your Asshole story of Judyth Baker.
(you're the laughing stock of the internet)

http://whokilledjfk.net/


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tomnln

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You make MORE Excuses for the lies of the WCR than Posner.
THAT puts you on their side.

FACT

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Sam Brown

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It's always the other guys fault isn't it Toothless? You are the stupidest
human being on the planet.


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Ben Holmes

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In article <gdiNi.30987$eY.1...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>, Martin Shackelford
says...
>
>You're a liar,

So were you, Martin... on a bit of eyewitness testimony.


>Tom--but that comes as no surprise.
>I've been consistently pro-conspiracy for decades--and remain so.


And yet, you "consistently" maintain LNT'er tactics in the news forum. I've
listed them before...


>The fact that I don't fall for every idiot theory doesn't change that.


The fact that you can't defend the authenticity of the extant Z-film is telling.

tomnln

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Only the ABOMINATIONS who make Personal attacks FIRST to avoid addressing
evidence/testimony.

Great Example is YOU.

In All the time you've been on this Forum, You've NEVER addresses
evidence/testimony ONCE.

Looks like your only purpose for being here is Trolling for little girls
DYKE.

Start HERE>>>

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tomnln

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"Da Shack" is BUSTED

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aeffects

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On Oct 5, 7:23 am, Ben Holmes <ad...@websitewealthcollege.com> wrote:
> In article <gdiNi.30987$eY.18...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>, Martin Shackelford

> says...
>
>
>
> >You're a liar,
>
> So were you, Martin... on a bit of eyewitness testimony.
>
> >Tom--but that comes as no surprise.
> >I've been consistently pro-conspiracy for decades--and remain so.
>
> And yet, you "consistently" maintain LNT'er tactics in the news forum. I've
> listed them before...
>
> >The fact that I don't fall for every idiot theory doesn't change that.
>
> The fact that you can't defend the authenticity of the extant Z-film is telling.

Martin isn't alone in this lack of being able to defend the
authenticity of the *extant* Z-film. He and few others who have
published can't afford to go backwards on the issue -- these other LN
misfits who post here are simply fools, I'm surprised they can even
spell their names. Hell, they can't debate your 45 questions, what the
hell do they know about film composition and other film effects,
simple answer: they have NO knowledge -- for that matter neither does
Martin, Tink or Gary Mack -- David Lifton is much more versed in the
artcraft....


> >Martin
>
> >"tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:On8Ni.9587$Bq3....@newsfe18.lga...
> >> Looks like I'm Hurting the Criminals enough that they have to bring out
> >> their SLEEPERS.
>
> >> Would you care to defend these LIES of the WC?>>>
>
> >>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
> >>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
> >>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>

> >> "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message


> >>news:w70Ni.3332$oA2....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>>I don't defend idiots, that's all.
>
> >>> Martin
>
> >>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:MiNMi.3759$pX5....@newsfe14.lga...
> >>>> Hey SHACK-UP;
>
> >>>> How come you didn't intervene when she STARTED the name calling?
>
> >>>> How long have you defending WCR Supporters?
>

> >>>> "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message


> >>>>news:DbHMi.71$sm...@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>>>> Better than your Mad Cow, Tom.
>
> >>>>> Martin
>
> >>>>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:18ZLi.293742$BX3.1...@newsfe13.lga...
> >>>>>> She probably killed them with her AIDS.
>
> >>>>>> That's why you're referred to as an ABOMINATION.
>
> >>>>>> You're a SATANIC CUNT.
>
> >>>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
> >>>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
> >>>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>

> >>>>>> "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message


> >>>>>>news:47005d94$3$1031$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >>>>>>> Holy Crap! Does that mean that when my partner operates on people
> >>>>>>> she's not actually qualified to do so? It's lucky she hasn't killed
> >>>>>>> anyone! Thanks Toothless, I'll be straight on to the authorities
> >>>>>>> about this one! Oh by the way, Ellen licks the windows of liquor
> >>>>>>> stores. Silly bitch!
>
> >>>>>>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>news:MoRLi.12419$495....@newsfe22.lga...
> >>>>>>>> If DYKES were capable of Study.....They would NOT be DYKES.
>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
> >>>>>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
> >>>>>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>
> >>>>>>>> THAT's why they RUN from their own evidence/testimony.
>

> >>>>>>>> "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news:46ff33b7$0$18984$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> >>>>>>>>> <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote in message

aeffects

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On Oct 5, 2:16 am, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> It's always the other guys fault isn't it Toothless? You are the stupidest
> human being on the planet.

sheeeeet we been saving that moniker for you -- after all Muncher, you
haven't posted one JFK related post since you began your trolling
experience here (been what 6 months, eh? hundreds of posts!)...... I
told you before, men haters need not apply here, plenty of boards out
there for folks such as you -- go play on the freeway willya, hon?
Let the big boys solve this problem....

Unless of course you gird up those hairy loins of yours and post
something relevant to the subject at hand.....


> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:Yk8Ni.9586$Bq3....@newsfe18.lga...
>
> > You SURE did Start to compete when you took the First Cheap Shot at me.
>
> > If you wanna start a CIVIL exchange, I'll go along with it.
>
> > BUT, if you take any more Cheap Shots....I will Retaliate in kind.
>

> > "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message


> >news:470Ni.3331$oA2....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>I wouldn't even attempt to compete with you, Tom.
>
> >> Martin
>
> >> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>news:zgNMi.3758$pX5....@newsfe14.lga...
> >>> FINALLY off the fence you Felon Supporter.
>
> >>> While your into Name-Calling, Tell how many little boys a day you EAT?
>

> >>> "Martin Shackelford" <msha...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message


> >>>news:R9HMi.69$sm...@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>>>I love it when sexist idiots expose themselves.
>
> >>>> Martin
>
> >>>> "tomnln" <tom...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:tzRLi.12422$495....@newsfe22.lga...
> >>>>>I love it when CUNTS wanna trade Insults.
>
> >>>>> Maybe you should stick to evidence/testimony>>>
>
> >>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mexcity.htm
> >>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
> >>>>>http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tippit.htm
>

> >>>>> <justme1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

tomnln

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Hahahahahahahaha


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tomnln

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Martin Da Shacks-up wrote below>>>

>> The fact that I don't fall for every idiot theory doesn't change that.

Aren't you the guy(?) who Swallowed Judith's Yarn Hook, Line & Sinker?

She contacted me Years ago. (ask her)
I was Smart enough to have Nothing to do with her.

You're the guy(?) who invents "Strawmen" to Distract Focus from
evidence/testimony.

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Sam Brown

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Nazi

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Sam Brown

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What a liar you are. Heale. You are a waste of time. I can't be bothered
corresting you again. Boring!


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Sam Brown

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Google "My 2 cents worth" and then be man enough to apologize. Efluent.

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tomnln

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PROOF>>>
http://whokilledjfk.net/sam_brown.htm

ABOMINATION

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tomnln

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Martin Shackelford

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The idea that one is a Lone Nutter if they don't accept your version of
things is egotistical lunacy.

Martin

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Martin Shackelford

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Keep relying on Lifton--that will be productive.
The rest seems to indicate a rich fantasy life.

Martin

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You wish.

Martin

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The insane laughter of the day.

Martin

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Dream on.

Martin

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Martin Shackelford

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You post whatever seems to bolster your beliefs on the case.
If you want to see a laughingstock, look in the mirror.

Martin

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And yet, I've been publishing for years in support of a conspiracy.
I only oppose nut-case CTs.

Martin

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Ben Holmes

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In article <B_0Oi.472$LD2...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, Martin Shackelford
says...

>
>The idea that one is a Lone Nutter if they don't accept your version of
>things is egotistical lunacy.
>
>Martin

No Martin... fighting strawmen is a hobby with you, isn't it?

I've stated time and time again that you use virtually every tactic in the
LNT'er arsenal.

You used several right here... top-posting, refusing to respond, fighting
strawmen, ad hominem...

Ben Holmes

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In article <W61Oi.482$LD2...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>, Martin Shackelford
says...

>
>And yet, I've been publishing for years in support of a conspiracy.
>I only oppose nut-case CTs.
>
>Martin


What every LNT'er would agree with.

CT'ers, on the other hand, deal with the FACTS, not the people asserting them.

tomnln

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I already Warned you about the name-calling you Dope-Smoking Child Molester.

Do you get Paid for making Excuses for the Crimes of the WCR?


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