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eca...@tx.rr.com

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Jun 16, 2007, 9:27:06 AM6/16/07
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What One thing would Convince You there was NO Conspiracy?

This is a parody on Ric's absurd subject
proposition:

Ric ON:
"What One thing would Convince You of a Conspiracy?
Please give a serious answer that can be satisfied
in a reasonable and practical way. For example,
saying "evidence" is too vague. Saying, "proof the
backyard photos are fakes" is reasonable and
practical. And be honest. Think before answering.
Don't give an answer you'll back out on if we're
able to satisfy it."
Ric OFF

Talk about a man on a one-sided biased mission
with blinders on.. As has been pointed out before
trying to isolate a single piece of evidence and
make it "acquit or convict" so to speak, is virtually
impossible.. Even the infamous Ruby photo would not
meet that burden even though the photo itself was
not a fake.. Nor was the BY photo. In extremely
rare cases a suspect has been cleared of suspicion
on a crime simply because he was in prison at the
time.. But is a document demonstrating same by
itself enough? No. Is the sworn testimony of the
Warden by itself enough? No, neither would do the
Trick if they were single isolated pieces of
evidence..
Yet Ric or whatever his name is applies that
very fallible mechanism to his proposition! It
takes some sort of evidence *pattern* and the
absence of a conflicting pattern to convince.

` *************************
The LN faction has an evidence pattern.
CTers like Ric have no such pattern.
And that's the DIFFERENCE.
` *************************

"And be honest. Think before answering" sez Sgt.
Fury (Ricland), the fake VN war vet with fake VN
war stories..

MR ;~D
Ed Cage
0820Jun1607

RICLAND

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Jun 16, 2007, 9:46:32 AM6/16/07
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eca...@tx.rr.com wrote:

> "And be honest. Think before answering" sez Sgt.
> Fury (Ricland), the fake VN war vet with fake VN
> war stories..
>
> MR ;~D
> Ed Cage
> 0820Jun1607
>


This from a rear-echelon Nam Vet who was so far back from the front
lines, when his tour was over he walked home.
--
ricland


Max Holland on Bugliosi:

"He is absolutely certain even when he is not necessarily right."
-- Max Holland
---
Reclaiming History -- Bugliosi's Blunders
The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Book
http://jfkhit.com

eca...@tx.rr.com

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Jun 16, 2007, 10:17:17 AM6/16/07
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That's the same thing you said about Harvey Ric.

You have absolutely no basis for that at all..
I was actually in or near Cambodia at one point.
I escorted convoys all over the central highlands
and went thru the majority of roads, cities, towns,
villages, Montanyard villages, camped in the
boonies many times, I was only a few miles NW of
Pleiku next to the Cambodian border when the Tet
attack occurred, I was then in the city of Pleiku
during the attack, I was in the hospital in Pleiku
with pneumonia,.. I was never hit but it was
extremely common to be rocketed (I was rocketed in
the Pleiku hospital), or hit land mines.. Never
mind the search and destroy fire fight missions..
I was only in Cam Rahn Bay an oceanfront entry
departure point for 3 days on entry and 1.5 days
on departure..
You went on for weeks chiding me for not really
having four Bronze Stars, (which I did/do) then
when it became apparent that I DID HAVE 4 BSs,
which my 3 BSs were for meritorious service and
had no "V" attachment (most don't btw) and my
other BS was with Oak Leaf Cluster you amazingly
found a way to belittle that calling my 4 BSs
"only for service."

I was there. So was YoHarvey.
You were never there Ric.
==>You got caught in a series of VN *lies*<=====
Don't blame it on me.

Edwin M. Cage
U.S. Army 1966-1969 (Volunteered)
Vietnam: March 1967 - March 1968
1st Armored Div / 4th Infantry Div / 3rd Armored Div


On Jun 16, 8:46 am, RICLAND <blackwr...@lycos.com> wrote:

eca...@tx.rr.com

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Now Sgt. Fury," back to this which you tried to
camouflage over with some diversionary tactics
so you did not have to address it:

"And be honest. Think before answering" sez Sgt.
Fury (Ricland), the fake VN war vet with fake VN
war stories..


MR ;~D
Ed Cage
0820Jun1607 0920Jun1607

On Jun 16, 8:46 am, RICLAND <blackwr...@lycos.com> wrote:

RICLAND

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[...YAWN...}


ricland
--

YoHarvey

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Jun 16, 2007, 11:32:15 AM6/16/07
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On Jun 16, 10:58 am, RICLAND <blackwr...@lycos.com> wrote:
> The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ed? To attempt a debate with a pathological liar
gets you nowhere. Ricland has been caught lying
more times than Nixon during Watergate. Ignore
his foolishness; consider the source and maintain
your dignity. To debate Ricland, one must go down
to steps: intellectually and emotionally.

eca...@tx.rr.com

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Jun 16, 2007, 11:43:15 AM6/16/07
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Harvey I know you are right..
But Ric telling others to "Be honest" would
repulse an open toilet.

PS: Anyone accusing me of being a liar will
get more than a "YAWN" rebuttal. But Ric is
nailed good and wants off that VN subject
pronto.. Just like Ben Holmes and his "John
Welsh Hodges" yarns.. Two outright liars.

Ed

> > The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hide quoted text -


>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Ed? To attempt a debate with a pathological liar
> gets you nowhere. Ricland has been caught lying
> more times than Nixon during Watergate. Ignore
> his foolishness; consider the source and maintain
> your dignity. To debate Ricland, one must go down

> to steps: intellectually and emotionally.- Hide quoted text -

aeffects

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Jun 16, 2007, 12:04:46 PM6/16/07
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On Jun 16, 7:17 am, ecag...@tx.rr.com wrote:
> That's the same thing you said about Harvey Ric.
>
> You have absolutely no basis for that at all..
> I was actually in or near Cambodia at one point.
> I escorted convoys all over the central highlands
> and went thru the majority of roads, cities, towns,
> villages, Montanyard villages, camped in the
> boonies many times, I was only a few miles NW of
> Pleiku next to the Cambodian border when the Tet
> attack occurred, I was then in the city of Pleiku
> during the attack, I was in the hospital in Pleiku
> with pneumonia,.. I was never hit but it was
> extremely common to be rocketed (I was rocketed in
> the Pleiku hospital), or hit land mines.. Never
> mind the search and destroy fire fight missions..
> I was only in Cam Rahn Bay an oceanfront entry
> departure point for 3 days on entry and 1.5 days
> on departure..
> You went on for weeks chiding me for not really
> having four Bronze Stars, (which I did/do)

did/do...? either you DO or DON'T have them

then
> when it became apparent that I DID HAVE 4 BSs,
> which my 3 BSs were for meritorious service and
> had no "V" attachment (most don't btw) and my
> other BS was with Oak Leaf Cluster

Your above is weak, Ed...

Tell us what is apparent? Not sure you understand multiple medal
awards and how they're recognized by those who do understand (not to
mention ARMY spec's).... Do you know how many OAK LEAF CLUSTERS to
wear with (4) BSM's for service? Three, Fast Eddy, not ONE!

USArmy multiple BSM service awards: one BSM ribbon in the ribbon rack
(1st award), three (3) bronze oak leaf cluster[s] (2nd, 3rd, 4th
award[s]) attached to the BSM rack ribbon = 4 BSM's.

YoHarvey isn't helping you out much, Fast Eddy.....


you amazingly
> found a way to belittle that calling my 4 BSs
> "only for service."


no one is belittling the BSM. Vietnam war cyber-warrior vet's are all
over the net. Most never travelled past Hawaii. Hell, the Oakland,
Ca., overseas replacement depot.

YoHarvey

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> > > The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Whenever Holmes will not respond, he
sends aeffects to do his dirty work.
Aeffects can be bought; he's proved
it many times. Watch his rebuttal
to these comments.

aeffects

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> > > > The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Whenever Holmes will not respond, he
> sends aeffects to do his dirty work.
> Aeffects can be bought; he's proved
> it many times. Watch his rebuttal
> to these comments.

don't change the subject, moron -- what don't you understand about
4BSM's Vietnam related claim? Listen-up douche bag, if Fast Eddy can't
leave his medals alone, why should I care. I addressed his above BSM
medal comment, it was he who drug your sorry ass into this. Go piss on
his pant leg....

I also notice you haven't a damn thing to say about Fast Eddy's 4BSM's
with one (1) oakleaf cluster. Your a Vietnam vet, eh? Why NOT?

I don't believe Holmes has ever commented on the Fast Eddy and the BSM
issue. He's displayed and commented he has no time for fools, frauds
and/or trolls. Which means you and Eddy lose, all counts!

YoHarvey

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> > > > > The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hidequoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Whenever Holmes will not respond, he
> > sends aeffects to do his dirty work.
> > Aeffects can be bought; he's proved
> > it many times. Watch his rebuttal
> > to these comments.
>
> don't change the subject, moron -- what don't you understand about
> 4BSM's Vietnam related claim? Listen-up douche bag, if Fast Eddy can't
> leave his medals alone, why should I care. I addressed his above BSM
> medal comment, it was he who drug your sorry ass into this. Go piss on
> his pant leg....
>
> I also notice you haven't a damn thing to say about Fast Eddy's 4BSM's
> with one (1) oakleaf cluster. Your a Vietnam vet, eh? Why NOT?
>
> I don't believe Holmes has ever commented on the Fast Eddy and the BSM
> issue. He's displayed and commented he has no time for fools, frauds
> and/or trolls. Which means you and Eddy lose, all counts!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I rest my case.

RICLAND

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aeffects wrote:
> On Jun 16, 7:17 am, ecag...@tx.rr.com wrote:

> then
>> when it became apparent that I DID HAVE 4 BSs,
>> which my 3 BSs were for meritorious service and
>> had no "V" attachment (most don't btw) and my
>> other BS was with Oak Leaf Cluster
>
> Your above is weak, Ed...
>
> Tell us what is apparent? Not sure you understand multiple medal
> awards and how they're recognized by those who do understand (not to
> mention ARMY spec's).... Do you know how many OAK LEAF CLUSTERS to
> wear with (4) BSM's for service? Three, Fast Eddy, not ONE!
>
> USArmy multiple BSM service awards: one BSM ribbon in the ribbon rack
> (1st award), three (3) bronze oak leaf cluster[s] (2nd, 3rd, 4th
> award[s]) attached to the BSM rack ribbon = 4 BSM's.
>
> YoHarvey isn't helping you out much, Fast Eddy.....


Not only that, aeffects...

There's got to be a reason why he's reviving the Nam discussion after
all this time, and I suspect it's because he's had enough time to
manufacture a bogus DD Form 214 and wants me to challenge him to post it
again.

Well, you can forget about that, Fast Eddy.

As usual, you're a day late and a dollar short.

The deadline was two months ago.

We put you down in the books as a fake, and that's how it will stay.

ricland

--

aeffects

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> > > > > > The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hidequotedtext -

>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Whenever Holmes will not respond, he
> > > sends aeffects to do his dirty work.
> > > Aeffects can be bought; he's proved
> > > it many times. Watch his rebuttal
> > > to these comments.
>
> > don't change the subject, moron -- what don't you understand about
> > 4BSM's Vietnam related claim? Listen-up douche bag, if Fast Eddy can't
> > leave his medals alone, why should I care. I addressed his above BSM
> > medal comment, it was he who drug your sorry ass into this. Go piss on
> > his pant leg....
>
> > I also notice you haven't a damn thing to say about Fast Eddy's 4BSM's
> > with one (1) oakleaf cluster. Your a Vietnam vet, eh? Why NOT?
>
> > I don't believe Holmes has ever commented on the Fast Eddy and the BSM
> > issue. He's displayed and commented he has no time for fools, frauds
> > and/or trolls. Which means you and Eddy lose, all counts!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I rest my case.

what case? LMFAO, a feint for Fast Eddy daCage? -- We ain't buying
douche-bag.... you're a pawn....

aeffects

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On Jun 16, 10:11 am, RICLAND <blackwr...@lycos.com> wrote:
> aeffects wrote:
> > On Jun 16, 7:17 am, ecag...@tx.rr.com wrote:
> > then
> >> when it became apparent that I DID HAVE 4 BSs,
> >> which my 3 BSs were for meritorious service and
> >> had no "V" attachment (most don't btw) and my
> >> other BS was with Oak Leaf Cluster
>
> > Your above is weak, Ed...
>
> > Tell us what is apparent? Not sure you understand multiple medal
> > awards and how they're recognized by those who do understand (not to
> > mention ARMY spec's).... Do you know how many OAK LEAF CLUSTERS to
> > wear with (4) BSM's for service? Three, Fast Eddy, not ONE!
>
> > USArmy multiple BSM service awards: one BSM ribbon in the ribbon rack
> > (1st award), three (3) bronze oak leaf cluster[s] (2nd, 3rd, 4th
> > award[s]) attached to the BSM rack ribbon = 4 BSM's.
>
> > YoHarvey isn't helping you out much, Fast Eddy.....
>
> Not only that, aeffects...
>
> There's got to be a reason why he's reviving the Nam discussion after
> all this time, and I suspect it's because he's had enough time to
> manufacture a bogus DD Form 214 and wants me to challenge him to post it
> again.

not sure of that, I suspect sympathy and/or distraction. Fast Eddy is
getting pummeled on both boards, regularly....YoHarvey is his shill on
this board, we're onto his game.

DD214's are welcomed but NOT needed, the above suffices....

eca...@tx.rr.com

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Nice try Ric.. But you got caught *lying*
about being a VN vet. Not just by me,
but others as well. Ben Holmes also got
caught *lying* about his imaginary author
who he created (John Welsh Hodges) and his
non-existent "book" that was going to
"demolish" Bugliosi.. Ben even went so far
as to create fictitious example(s) of
communications with JWH!! "He's already
got the galley proofs" sez Benny the dwarf..

But you Ric, take the prize for shameless
lies.. About seeing a Vietnamese man
*murdered* for no reason on your "first day
in country" no less.. And then seeing him
fall into a "RICE PADDY" on your first day
in country".. Nobody sees rice paddies on
their first day Ric..

Then you disgustingly boast of killing
platoon commanders (Lieutenants) by throwing
an explosive(s) into their hooch while they
"were whacking off to a PlayBoy centerfold"
you said.. Disgusting and revolting lies Ric..
But as if that wasn't enough you attempt to
embellish the lie(s), with, "every time we'd
get rid of one they'd usually replace him
with another twice as stupid."
Ric OFF

Have you no honor?

Ric I think you are a bigger liar than even
Ben Holmes and his fake author (John Welsh
Hodges) and his non-existent "book" that was
going to "demolish" Bugliosi.

Ed Cage
1315Jun1607


`

> The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com- Hide quoted text -

YoHarvey

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> - Show quoted text -

Take a look at the buffons on this newsgroup.
Ricland, Holmes, Rossley, Aeffects, Jesus.
They all have one thing in common: Liars!
And when caught, which they always are,
they lie again in attempting to defend
themselves. They represent the scum that
is the kook community. Just add in all
the other liars: Groden, Mantik, Fetzer,
Wecht, Dankbaar. And they wonder why
nobody takes them seriously.

aeffects

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> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Take a look at the buffons on this newsgroup.
> Ricland, Holmes, Rossley, Aeffects, Jesus.
> They all have one thing in common: Liars!
> And when caught, which they always are,
> they lie again in attempting to defend
> themselves. They represent the scum that
> is the kook community. Just add in all
> the other liars: Groden, Mantik, Fetzer,
> Wecht, Dankbaar. And they wonder why
> nobody takes them seriously.

serious enough for pukes like you to play act as if you have a clue.
Serious enough for Bugliosi to write a 1600+ page book dedicated to
the JFK assassination research community.... There's no place to run -
no place to hide Beetle Bailey, more you post, well, you get the idea.
KUTGW, troop LMFAO! You're just another in the long line of Lone
Neuter frauds and Vietnam era cyber-warriors....

aeffects

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No place to run - no place to hide, you've no credibility. Get
yourself another alias, you're finished here!

> > The Rebuttals to Bugliosi's JFK Assassination Bookhttp://jfkhit.com-Hide quoted text -

justm...@gmail.com

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> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Take a look at the buffons on this newsgroup.
> > Ricland, Holmes, Rossley, Aeffects, Jesus.
> > They all have one thing in common: Liars!
> > And when caught, which they always are,
> > they lie again in attempting to defend
> > themselves. They represent the scum that
> > is the kook community. Just add in all
> > the other liars: Groden, Mantik, Fetzer,
> > Wecht, Dankbaar. And they wonder why
> > nobody takes them seriously.
>
> serious enough for pukes like you to play act as if you have a clue.
> Serious enough for Bugliosi to write a 1600+ page book dedicated to
> the JFK assassination research community.... There's no place to run -
> no place to hide Beetle Bailey, more you post, well, you get the idea.
> KUTGW, troop LMFAO! You're just another in the long line of Lone
> Neuter frauds and Vietnam era cyber-warriors....- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

What does that make you Healy? Your're already a low life scum, and
I'm sure you served your country too....but giving head to the
desperate soldiers in the back room isn't the kind of service we're
referring too.
No matter where anyone served in the Military the point is they did
their service and should be respected. The only one playacting is
your buddie Ricland...he'll say anything for attention!

aeffects

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On Jun 16, 12:19 pm, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

sitdown fuckface, nobody squeezed that pimple on your shoulder
yet..... Scared cause Fast got caught pulling his own pud *again* You
Nutter's are such a riot....


Your're already a low life scum, and
> I'm sure you served your country too....but giving head to the
> desperate soldiers in the back room isn't the kind of service we're
> referring too.

What do you know about serving ones country, you dyed in the wool
fuckwad coward?


> No matter where anyone served in the Military the point is they did
> their service and should be respected. The only one playacting is
> your buddie Ricland...he'll say anything for attention!

as will you, now if you know anything about BSM's speak up, otherwise
fuck off dickweed!


justm...@gmail.com

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> fuck off dickweed!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Wow Healy, hit a nerve huh? You've used every cuss word in your
vocabulary on that one...too bad nothing intelligent ever comes out of
that disgusting mouth of yours.
I do know one thing about BSM's. BIG STUPID MORON = Healy!!!!!

YoHarvey

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On Jun 16, 3:38 pm, "justme1...@gmail.com" <justme1...@gmail.com>
> I do know one thing about BSM's. BIG STUPID MORON = Healy!!!!!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You will always know when you rile Healey.
He reverts to 4th grade, juvenile vulgarities
indicative of his 4th grade education. Another
thing the kooks have in common.

eca...@tx.rr.com

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Jun 16, 2007, 5:41:23 PM6/16/07
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And now a few words from Question Man Healy
who attempts to make his case with the
brain power of a bird:

QUESTION MAN HEALY ON:


"sitdown fuckface, nobody squeezed
that pimple on your shoulder yet.....
Scared cause Fast got caught pulling
his own pud *again* You Nutter's are
such a riot.... Your're already a low

life scum, and What do you know about


serving ones country, you dyed in the

wool fuckwad coward? as will you, now


if you know anything about BSM's speak
up, otherwise fuck off dickweed!"

QUESTION MAN HEALY OFF

Here is a lonely old uneducated man..
(Wanting attention but not getting any.)
And all this time we thought you were
of the low brow variety Healy..
You may go now.. You've had yet
another truly shitty day..

MR ;~D
Ed Cage
1639Jun1607

> fuck off dickweed!- Hide quoted text -

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