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DALLAS POSTAL INSPECTOR HARRY HOLMES: LIAR EXTRAORDINARE

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Gil Jesus

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Mar 14, 2010, 11:00:58 AM3/14/10
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Holmes Lie # 1 --- HOLMES TESTIFIED THAT ANYONE COULD GET PACKAGES
FROM A POST OFFICE BOX
IN DALLAS WHETHER OR NOT THEIR NAME WAS ON THE P.O. BOX APPLICATION

"You don't have to file that third portion to get service for other
people there." ( 7 H 528 )


But under postal regulations, it was not possible for ANYONE to
receive mail at a post office box under a name that was not listed at
the time of the application.

Postal regulation 355.111b ( 4 ) said that any mail received at a
post
office box addressed to someone not authorized to receive it, "shall
be marked 'addressee unknown' and returned to sender when possible."

http://i43.tinypic.com/25swy12.jpg

CE 2585 is the FBI report on issues raised by the book, "Who Killed
Kennedy"by Thomas Buchanan. In that report the FBI stated that their
investigation showed that the "Hidell" name was not on the application
for the post office box # 2915 and thus "Hidell" was not authorized or
"entitled to receive mail" at the box.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2w7fleh.jpg

Holmes Lie # 2 --- HOLMES TESTIFIED THAT PART 3 OF THE PO BOX
APPLICATION FOR BOX #2915 ( THE PART THAT LISTED NAMES OF THOSE WHO
WERE ENTITLED TO RECEIVE MAIL AT THE BOX OTHER THAN THE APPLICANT )
WAS DESTROYED PER REGULATIONS IN MAY 1963 WHEN THE BOX WAS CLOSED.

Mr. LIEBELER. Now is this regulation that says section 3 should be
torn off and thrown away, is that a general regulation of the Post
Office Department?

Mr. HOLMES. It is in the Post Office Manual Instructions to employees;
yes, sir. ( 7 H 527 )


But postal regulation 846.53h required the application ( which was
comprised by parts 2 & 3 ) to be kept on file for TWO YEARS after the
box was closed.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2j5ch00.jpg

This regulation was followed by the New Orleans Post Office which had
part 3 of Oswald's application for Box 30061 on file AFTER the box had
been closed.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0362a.htm

Holmes Lie # 3 --- In order to cover up the destruction of part 3 of
the Dallas application, HOLMES TOLD THE WC THAT IT WAS THE NEW ORLEANS
POST OFFICE WHICH HAD VIOLAQTED POSTAL REGULATIONS BY RETAINING PART 3
OF THE APPLICATION FOR BOX 30061.

Mr. HOLMES. ..... even though they closed the box in New Orleans, they
still had part 3 and it showed that the mail for Marina Oswald and A.
J. Hidell was good in the box. They hadn't complied with
regulations. They still had it there. ( 7 H 527 )


However, we can see that the New Orleans Post Office followed postal
regulations and the Dallas Post Office did not.

Harry Holmes was one of the biggest liars to appear before the Wareen
Commission.

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timstter

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Mar 14, 2010, 12:11:36 PM3/14/10
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> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol...

>
> Holmes Lie # 3 --- In order to cover up the destruction of part 3 of
> the Dallas application, HOLMES TOLD THE WC THAT IT WAS THE NEW ORLEANS
> POST OFFICE WHICH HAD VIOLAQTED POSTAL REGULATIONS BY RETAINING PART 3
> OF THE APPLICATION FOR BOX 30061.
>
> Mr. HOLMES. ..... even though they closed the box in New Orleans, they
> still had part 3 and it showed that the mail for Marina Oswald and A.
> J. Hidell was good in the box.  They hadn't complied with
> regulations.  They still had it there. ( 7 H 527 )
>
> However, we can see that the New Orleans Post Office followed postal
> regulations and the Dallas Post Office did not.
>
> Harry Holmes was one of the biggest liars to appear before the Wareen
> Commission.
>
> .

LOL! Verm, the proof is whether or not he received the rifle.

He received the rifle with the same serial # that Kleins shipped to
him.

Game OVAH, you ridiculous Bald Goose.

KUTGW Regards,

Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*

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timstter

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Mar 14, 2010, 12:37:36 PM3/14/10
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On Mar 15, 2:00 am, Gil Jesus <gjjm...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol...

>
> Holmes Lie # 3 --- In order to cover up the destruction of part 3 of
> the Dallas application, HOLMES TOLD THE WC THAT IT WAS THE NEW ORLEANS
> POST OFFICE WHICH HAD VIOLAQTED POSTAL REGULATIONS BY RETAINING PART 3
> OF THE APPLICATION FOR BOX 30061.
>
> Mr. HOLMES. ..... even though they closed the box in New Orleans, they
> still had part 3 and it showed that the mail for Marina Oswald and A.
> J. Hidell was good in the box.  They hadn't complied with
> regulations.  They still had it there. ( 7 H 527 )
>
> However, we can see that the New Orleans Post Office followed postal
> regulations and the Dallas Post Office did not.
>
> Harry Holmes was one of the biggest liars to appear before the Wareen
> Commission.
>
> .

Hey Gilly,

Here is ANOTHER letter from the Soviet Embassy to Marina Oswald @ PO
Box 2915:

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0023a.htm

How did she get it if what you're positing about Hidell is true?

You haven't even done basic research, Gil!

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David Von Pein

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Mar 14, 2010, 1:10:18 PM3/14/10
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Gil,

The document linked above doesn't specify whether PART THREE of the PO
Box application should be specifically saved for two years. It states
that the "Box rental applications and control cards showing payment"
should be saved. And Oswald's "box rental application" (the top
portion with Oswald's name and signature) WAS saved. It is shown in
CE791 and CE792 (below):

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0353a.htm

It looks to me like Ralph R. Rea, the man who wrote that 1966 letter
to Stewart Galanor (which appears in Mark Lane's book "Rush To
Judgment"), has added some information about "Part Three" that doesn't
necessarily have to apply to Postal Regulation 846.53h. Rea said this
to Galanor on May 3, 1966:

"Section 846.53h, of the Postal Manual, provides that the third
portion of box rental applications, identifying persons other than the
applicant authorized to receive mail, must be retained for two years
after the box is closed."

But as we can easily see at the top link above, nowhere in regulation
846.53h does it SPECIFY that the "third portion" of a PO Box
application should be retained for two years.

It looks as if Rea was merely assuming that ALL PARTS of the
application had to be saved via that postal regulation. And I'm not so
sure he's right about that at all. And we've got Harry D. Holmes'
testimony too, wherein Holmes said that Part 3 of PO Box applications
are routinely thrown away after a box is closed.

http://nyc.indymedia.org/media/application/6/RushtoJudgment_MarkLane.pdf

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