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David Von Pein

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Sep 14, 2008, 10:23:35 PM9/14/08
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THOMAS H. PURVIS SAID:

>>> "The Warren Commission was intentionally designed to subvert and misrepresent the factual truths in the assassination of JFK." <<<


DAVID VON PEIN NOW SAYS:

Yeah, Mr. Purvis thinks that the Warren Commission wanted to pull the
wool over the eyes of everybody by making them think (falsely) that
JFK was struck by just TWO bullets from LHO and LHO's gun....instead
of the WC telling the world the REAL TRUTH (per Purvis), which was
this:

Lee Harvey Oswald did do all of the shooting with his own gun on
11/22/63, but he really hit JFK with all three of his bullets, instead
of just two of the three.


But Purvis can't give us one single good-enough reason for the WC to
want to perform this idiotic sleight-of-hand re. the death of JFK, a
sleight-of-hand that leads right back to the VERY SAME ASSASSIN and
the very same basic conclusion about how JFK was killed (i.e., 3 shots
fired, all coming from Oswald, all coming from LHO's gun, and no
frontal shots fired at all).


It's rather remarkable to look at the phenomenon of people like Thomas
H. Purvis and Robert Harris....i.e., people who have obviously studied
this assassination at considerable length (for years on end no doubt),
and who can come SO CLOSE to agreeing with many things concluded by
the Warren Commission and the HSCA....but who just can't bring
themselves to take that extra small common-sense step in order to
fully agree with the WC's ultimate (and very reasonable) findings
regarding the manner in which President Kennedy was murdered.


People like Purvis and Harris can bring themselves to the 1-yard line
of total LNism, but that extra yard to enter the endzone is just too
much of a burdensome task to cross it would seem.

And I can only ask .... I wonder why?

<shrug>


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THE WARREN COMMISSION GOT IT RIGHT:

www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/4b8dae7b150da043

www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/e2a229774508e859


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aeffects

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Sep 15, 2008, 3:34:26 AM9/15/08
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son, he's made a damn fool out of you.... carry on!

Gil Jesus

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On Sep 14, 10:23�pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> www.google.com/group/alt.assassination.jfk/browse_thread/thread/54795...


TOUCHDOWN !!!!

WC PURPOSE WAS TO EVALUATE HOOVER REPORT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tspWgqJApYA

LBJ TO HOOVER: "THE ONLY WAY WE CAN STOP 'EM....."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTjWcWgczQg


More truth revealed:

www.youtube.com/GJJdude


Brokedad

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Sep 15, 2008, 9:35:36 AM9/15/08
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On Sep 15, 2:34�am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
> son, he's made a damn fool out of you.... carry on!


Actually, this topic should be entitled: "Getting to the 98 Yard
Line"

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0449a.htm


As that happens to be the exact slope/slant distance (294 feet) which
the US Secret Service (December 1963) as well as the FBI (February
1964) determined as the distance of the THIRD/LAST/FINAL shot impact
which occurred down directly in front of James Altgens location.
(stationing 4+95 as surveyed in).

Whereas, the Z313 impact slope distance was 267 feet/ aka the 89 yard
line, slope distance wise.

========================================================================================

Exactly where do these persons gain the opinion that they are smarter
and more qualified than was the US Secret Service and the FBI to have
figured this relatively simple shooting sequence scenario out?


I would suppose that is exactly why "Parrothead" is still sitting on
the 1-yard line!

Brokedad

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Sep 15, 2008, 9:48:37 AM9/15/08
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On Sep 15, 8:35�am, Brokedad <temptypock...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 2:34 am, aeffects <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > son, he's made a damn fool out of you.... carry on!
>
> Actually, this topic should be entitled: �"Getting to the 98 Yard
> Line"
>
> http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0...

>
> As that happens to be the exact slope/slant distance (294 feet) which
> the US Secret Service (December 1963) as well as the FBI (February
> 1964) determined as the distance of the THIRD/LAST/FINAL shot impact
> which occurred down directly in front of James Altgens location.
> (stationing 4+95 as surveyed in).
>
> Whereas, the Z313 impact slope distance was 267 feet/ aka the 89 yard
> line, slope distance wise.
>
> ===========================================================================�=============

>
> Exactly �where do these persons gain the opinion that they are smarter
> and more qualified than was the US Secret Service and the FBI to have
> figured this relatively simple shooting sequence scenario out?
>
> I would suppose that is exactly why "Parrothead" is still sitting on
> the 1-yard line!


http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/gauthier.htm


Mr. GAUTHIER. Yes; the tracing is wrapped, and sealed in this
container.
Mr. SPECTER. Without breaking the seal, I will ask you if the
cardboard which has been set up here--may the record show it is a
large cardboard. I will ask you for the dimensions in just a minute.
Does the printing on the cardboard represent an exact duplication of
the tracing which you have in your hand?
Mr. GAUTHIER. Yes.

Mr. SPECTER. May it please the Commission, we will mark the tracing
Commission Exhibit No. 882, and not take it out, since the cardboard
represents it, and place Commission Exhibit No. 883 on the cardboard
drawing itself, and I would like to move for the admission into
evidence of both Exhibits Nos. 882 and 883.
The CHAIRMAN. They may be admitted.

-------------------------------------------------------------

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0464b.htm

---------------------------------------------------------------


Since Von Parrothead is apparantly so lacking in intellectual ability
that he allowed the Warren Commission to "slip" in the altered survey
data block from their assassination re-enactment, then one would not
expect him to be smart enough to actually find any of the other WC
slight/sleight-of-hand manipulations.

Hey Parrothead!

Wanna know why Specter & Company did not want to let you see the
original Survey Plat and it's "Original" data block?

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/textsearch/advancedResults.do


Kennedy Assassination Chronicles, Volume 7, Issue 3 pg 1
Found in: Kennedy Assassination Chronicles
multiple hits in this document

The Fourth Decade, Volume 3, Issue 1 pg 17
Found in: The Fourth Decade
Purvis, who has been corre- sponding with Robert West since 1991, the
level of government deceit can now be understood. This is not the
first time Mr. West and surveyor, Chester Breneman, have raised


David Von Pein

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Sep 15, 2008, 3:27:29 PM9/15/08
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Has Purvis figured out why the WC wanted to lie about the details of
Oswald's shooting performance?

Any idea at all, King Idiot?

aeffects

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Sep 15, 2008, 3:40:55 PM9/15/08
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son, you do need to get back on point.... name calling at this stage
(your futility quotient) makes you look like the runner, YOU ARE!

Brokedad

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Sep 16, 2008, 12:32:08 PM9/16/08
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Actually!

It is quite irrelevant as to the facts whether "Purvis" has or has not
figured out why the WC wanted to lie.

The primary question (to which the answer is quite evident) is exactly
why is it that those such as Von Pein have not even figured out that
they were lied to?

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0068a.htm

"THE SHOT THAT MISSED"

Irrelevant as to the totality of the evidence regarding the impact
location of the third/last/final shot fired in the assassination shot
sequence, exactly what kind of complete idiot would fall for and
believe this?????????


At least "Purvis" knows that he was lied to, which is more than can be
said for some.

David Von Pein

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2007 REPRISE........


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/1ddbd022eedc3a2f/bdaad120945e911b?#bdaad120945e911b


>>> "Hate to be the one to again have to inform such highly uninformed persons as Mr. Von Pein (and others), but the Data Block on the true survey plat DOES NOT match those numbers as presented in CE884. And, had Mr. Von Pein ever known what a "Leroy Set" was, then he would have immediately recognized this as well." <<<

Thank the Maker we have Thomas H. Purvis (aka "Impoverished Male
Parent"/"Brokedad") to explain all of this stuff to us.

But where the heck were you back in 1978 during the HSCA hearings when
your country needed your vast expertise the most, Mr. Purvis??

And how did all of this data about "TWO HEADS SHOTS FROM THE REAR"
slip through the cracks during the two-year HSCA investigation? (Or
was every member of THAT 1977-1979 panel involved in "covering up" the
true nature of JFK's wounds too?)

And please, Mr. Purvis, explain to us how in the wide, wide world of
sports (and the wide world of conspiracies!) did ALL NINE PATHOLOGISTS
(including Conspiracy-lover Extraordinaire Cyril H. Wecht) manage to
MISS that second entry hole to the back of John Kennedy's head in the
photographs and X-rays?

And how in this same world did ALL of the many, many PHOTOGRAPHIC
EXPERTS who pored over those autopsy photos and X-rays for the HSCA in
the late 1970s manage to ALL miss seeing these things that are oh so
obvious to Thomas H. Purvis?

I salute you, Mr. Purvis. You have done the impossible. You have
single-handedly managed to rip to shreds the entire 10-month Warren
Commission probe, the two-year HSCA investigation, the November 1963
autopsy report signed by all 3 autopsists, and the findings of the
four-member Clark Panel from 1968.

ONLY Thomas H. Purvis sees the TRUTH re. the true wounds that were
sustained by President Kennedy in Dallas in 1963!

And while the rest of the world flounders in total abject ignorance
about so many things connected to the JFK murder case (both "CTers"
and "LNers" alike), Mr. Thomas H. Purvis can sleep comfortably in his
bed at night....because he knows he is the ONLY person in the vast
universe who possesses the whole truth surrounding the events of
November 22, 1963.

It must be lonely being the only person who knows this long-sought-
after truth. It must also be quite a burden to carry on his shoulders
each and every day of the year, too. Right, Mr. Purvis?

Or, to relieve that painful and longstanding loneliness, perhaps Mr.
Purvis (after a long and arduous search no doubt) has somehow managed
to locate that FIRST ADDITIONAL PERSON ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET who
actually agrees with his "Two Head Shots From The Rear" theory?

Have you located that individual to date, Mr. Purvis?

And I'm still scratching my head as I continue to be mired in a state
of complete perplexity when it comes to the question of how all nine
members of the FPP for the HSCA somehow managed to miss that second
entry hole in JFK's head.

But, maybe Thomas would care to explain to all of us dumbasses here on
Planet Earth just exactly how those nine doctors were able to miss
something like that. I'd enjoy hearing that explanation. (Plus I look
forward to the good, healthy laughfest that will undoubtedly ensue
just after said explanation.)

David Von Pein
October 2, 2007

Brokedad

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Now!

In event that one wishes to get to the 100 yard line (actually, it was
98 yards/aka 294 feet slope/slant distance from the sixth floor
window)

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/shaneyf2.htm

Mr. SHANEYFELT. This is an album that I prepared of black and white
photographs made of the majority of the frames in the Zapruder
film----
Mr. SPECTER. Starting with what frame number?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. Starting with frame 171, going through frame 334.
Mr. SPECTER. And why did you start with frame 171?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. This is the frame that the slides start from. This was
an arbitrary frame number that was decided on as being far enough back
to include the area that we wanted to study.
Mr. SPECTER. Is that a frame where President Kennedy comes into full
view after the motorcade turns left off of Houston onto Elm Street?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes, yes.
Mr. SPECTER. And how was the ending point of that frame sequence,
being No. 334, fixed?
Mr. SHANEYFELT. It was fixed as several frames past the shot that hit
the President in the head. Frame 313 is the frame showing the shot to
the President's head, and it ends at 334.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh18/html/WH_Vol18_0047b.htm

Anybody see James Altgens yet?

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z334.jpg

Nope! Not here either!

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm

Mr. ALTGENS - Because I didn't see who fired it. After the
Presidential car moved a little past me, I took another picture--now,
just let me back up here--I was prepared to make a picture at the very
instant the President was shot. I had refocused to 15 feet because I
wanted a good closeup of the President and Mrs. Kennedy, and that's
why I know that it would be right at 15 feet, because I had prefocused
in that area, and I had my camera almost to my eye when it happened
and that's as far as I got with my camera.

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z339.jpg

Guess who I see?

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z350.jpg

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P.S. That is Malcolm Summers diving to the ground behind Altgens.

"Well, then the car kept coming, and then the second shot rang out.
And then the third was just about where I was at, rang out"

So, now I guess we know why Malcolm Summers was not called to testify
before the Warren Commission.

______________________________________

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm


Mr. ALTGENS - Yes. What made me almost certain that the shot came from
behind was because at the time I was looking at the President, just as
he was struck, it caused him to move a bit forward. He seemed as if at
the time----well, he was in a position-- sort of immobile. He wasn't
upright. He was at an angle but when it hit him, it seemed to have
just lodged--it seemed as if he were hung up on a seat button or
something like that. It knocked him just enough forward that he came
right on down. There was flesh particles that flew out of the side of
his head in my direction from where I was standing,
------------------------------------------------------------

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/altgens.htm

Mr. LIEBELER - Yes; I would like to locate that spot. I show you
Exhibit No. 354, which is an aerial view of the area that we have been
discussing.

Mr. ALTGENS - This would put me at approximately this area here, which
would be about 15 feet from me at the time he was shot in the head--
about 15 feet from the car on the west side of the car--on the side
that Mrs. Kennedy was riding in the car.
Mr. LIEBELER - You have indicated a spot along the side of Elm Street
which I have marked with a No. 3; is that correct?
Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - Is that approximately where you were standing?
Mr. ALTGENS - Yes, sir.

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0487a.htm

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++

Get real there Liebeler!

Do you honestly expect me to fall for some claim that James Altgens
was located at a point which placed him back up Elm St. so far that he
would have been between the Jean Hill/Mary Moorman position and the
TSDB?

When in fact, Altgens was located way down Elm St. almost across from
the concrete steps/sidewalk which came down from the Stockade fence
down to the street, just about where the "S" in Street is located.

=======================================================================================

Nice try! However, this is not Mr. Von Parrothead that you are
dealing with!

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0449a.htm

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z350.jpg


There is where James Altgens (& Malcolm Summers) were located. Right
down Elm Street directly in front of survey station 4+95.

===============================================

Just makes one wonder as to exactly how it was that the WC "lost"
Altgens, especially since his position was shown in newspapers all
over the country only a couple of days after the assassination.

Brokedad

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On Sep 17, 1:50�am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> 2007 REPRISE........
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/threa...

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While you are foaming at the bit, why not, for the enjoyment of the
reading public, explain away exactly how and why it was that the US
Secret Service (who was in possession of a first generation copy of
the Z-film), as well as the FBI, during their assassination re-
enactment of 2/7/64, with a first generation copy of the Z-film, were
both so confused that they determined the impact location of the third/
last/final shot as being down directly in front of James Altgens
position.

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0449a.htm

That position happens to be some 30-feet farther down Elm St. past the
Z313 impact location.

P.S. Were you ever going to get around to explaining exactly why the
WC felt the need to alter their own survey data???

How about explaining the complete inconsistancies of the "Vehicle
Speed" which one derives based on the WC assassination re-enactment.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> And while the rest of the world flounders in total abject ignorance

(David Von Pein)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++

It would appear that you are the primary one doing the floundering.
And by your demonstrated ignorance of the facts of the WC
investigation, along with about everything else, I would suppose that
it would qualify as "ignorant foundering".

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++


But, maybe Thomas would care to explain to all of us dumbasses here
on

(David Von Pein)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++
Most likely, you are the only "dumbass" here.

As with other locations, most are quite probably considering exactly
what if anything I do know.
However, most also already are aware that you know little.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++


> Or, to relieve that painful and longstanding loneliness, perhaps Mr.
> Purvis (after a long and arduous search no doubt) has somehow managed
> to locate that FIRST ADDITIONAL PERSON ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET who
> actually agrees with his "Two Head Shots From The Rear" theory?
>
> Have you located that individual to date, Mr. Purvis?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++

Enjoy yourself while you can! However, in event that your name is
truly David Von Pein, you just may wish to consider a name change
soon.


So, do you wish to continue to run off at the mouth or would you like
to attempt to negate a few simple facts as relates to the
assassination.

Of which you quite obviously know little of nothing!

Three Shots!------------------Three Hits!---------------------Two Head
Shots!------------------No "THE SHOT THAT MISSED"!

Are you so stupid that you actually believed that one of the shots
missed?

Guess so! Assuming that you also believed that Z313 was the last shot
fired.

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David Von Pein

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Sep 17, 2008, 11:57:14 PM9/17/08
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>>> "Enjoy yourself while you can!" <<<

El-Oh-El.

Does this mean that "The Purvis Bombshell" will be dropped on us
pretty soon?!

I.E., Purvis' magnificently-retarded "Two Head Shots From The Rear"
theory will be proven and scientifically documented by ALL SEVENTEEN
of the pathologists (even the ones who are now deceased) who had
previously declared Purvis, in essence, to be a moron/idiot/nutjob
when all 17 verified that JFK had only one entry hole in his head?!

I look so forward to Purvis' theory be proven true, so that the work
of the WC and HSCA and Clark Panel and the autopsists and Vincent
Bugliosi and Dale Myers and Jean Davison and Gerald Posner and Jim
Moore and John Lattimer and John McAdams and me (among others) can be
proven dead-wrong with ironclad certainty.

Purvis can then make his millions by selling his new book -- "I,
Alone, Knew The Truth About 11/22/63". (Publisher: Retard Press, Inc.;
100 Conspiracy Kook Avenue; Santa Claus, Indiana 47579, USA.)

>>> "However, in event that your name is truly David Von Pein, you just may wish to consider a name change soon." <<<

Oh, goodie! This means that Purvis is to be taken seriously, kids!
Because I'll be way too embarrassed to wear my real name after his
"Two Head Shots" bombshell is verified beyond all doubt. Right, Mister
Purv-man/Retard?

>>> "So, do you wish to continue to run off at the mouth or would you like to attempt to negate a few simple facts as relates to the assassination[?]" <<<

I've already "negated" your idiocy in both 2007 and now in 2008 --
several times over.

But I, personally, certainly don't need to "negate" anything that a
goof named Thomas H. Purvis writes on the Internet (or on some
bathroom wall in the Capitol Building either, should he try to utilize
that method to get his "2 Head Shots" message across to some senators
in Washington).

Because the WC, the HSCA, the autopsy surgeons, and the Clark Panel
(among hundreds of other independent researchers and scientists) have
"negated" Purvis' nonsense a million times already.

But that negating of his crappola won't stop Purvis from "running off
at the mouth". No way. No how. Like most hard-core, conspiracy-happy
retarded folks, Purvis has invested too much time and (worthless)
effort into thinking up a new "twist" to the way John F. Kennedy died.
He's got a new "slant". And he's proud of his new "findings". No way
he'll ever let them go...no matter how utterly retarded his findings
are.

Right, Purv-Kook?

Right.

>>> "Three Shots!------------------Three Hits!---------------------Two Head Shots!------------------No "THE SHOT THAT MISSED"!" <<<

The extra hyphens in there REALLY cement the deal for me! I'm
convinced for sure now! Those dashes in that above sentence did the
trick! (You should have tried that angle before, Mr. Retard. It's very
powerful....and super-convincing prose.)

>>> "Are you so stupid that you actually believed that one of the shots missed?" <<<

Aw, shit! And just when he had me convinced of his theory, the retard
goes and blows it by continuing to regurgitate more excrement. Damn!

>>> "Guess so! Assuming that you also believed that Z313 was the last shot fired." <<<

Try using the extra "hyphens" in all your nonsensical posts from now
on, Kookmeister. It really does help your cause.

What's next on "The Retard Channel", Tommy? I know a good topic --
tell the world why they should put all of their faith in a kook named
Purvis instead of believing SEVENTEEN different trained pathologists
who all concluded that JFK had just one bullet hole of entry in his
cranium.

That program ought to garner great ratings on "TRC".

David Von Pein

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A footnote re. Purvis The Retard.......

Everybody take note at how utterly desperate Purvis is in his long-
winded efforts at trying to convince me (or somebody! anybody!) of his
idiotic two-head-shots theory.

The desperation just oozes from every kooky letter he types. It's a
howl.

I must admit, it's great fun watching a kook like Purvis in action. It
shows the level of retardation that has somehow enveloped his brain
over the years. (A similar affliction affects all of the kooks at this
asylum/forum, but Purvis' brand of ailment is, indeed, unique, seeing
as how he seems to ALMOST believe the full-fledged WC version of 11/22
events....but he, like Mark Fuhrman, wants to be just a tad
"different" at the same time.)

How and why did it happen to Purvis? No one can know that for certain.
But perhaps Mark Lane or Jim Fetzer, who suffer from similar delusions
about the JFK case, could give us some insight. I think I'll go ask
them.

Brokedad

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Sep 19, 2008, 12:48:31 PM9/19/08
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Yep! Completely delusional!

Now that we have resolved that, were you going to, for the enjoyment
of the reading public, attempt to explain exactly why it was that the
US Secret Service as well as the FBI, (along with multiple witnesses)
so infomed us that the third/last/final shot impact was some 30-feet
farther down Elm St. than the WC's purported last shot at the Z313
impact?

WC Last shot fired:--Z313------Survey Stationing 4+65.3

US Secret Service & FBI Last shot fired: Directly in front of James
Altgens position:--Survey Stationing 4+95 (what was actually surveyed
in).

About 30-feet difference there "Parrothead".

Inquiring minds would no doubt appreciate "your" explanation of that
one.

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0464b.htm

Z313/aka 4+65.3

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0449a.htm

Last shot fired: Stationing 4+95

=========================================

P.S. Were you also going to get around to an explanation of the
SECOND bullet hole in the back of JFK coat?
The one which entered just below the bottom edge of the collar and
penetrated completely through the coat and liner on an oblique angle.

Now! Did JFK have his coat pulled up completely over his head at any
point as seen in the Z-film???????

Not that I see!

David Von Pein

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>>> "Were you also going to get around to an explanation of the SECOND bullet hole in the back of JFK coat?" <<<

Oh, goodie! Another CT myth being regurgitated by a kook name Purv-
man!

Any extra "hole" in the coat was placed there by the FBI "tag" that
was placed on the garment for identification purposes.

Naturally, kooks like Purvis have to invent a "second bullet hole"
theory to account for this evidence.

I wonder where the second "hole" in Kennedy's back is? Let me
guess...Purvis can invent a way for a bullet hole to go through the
jacket, but then hit somewhere well ABOVE JFK's back. Right, Mr. Kook?

Let's watch and see an idiot invent shit from whole "cloth" (pun,
pun). Purv is good at doing that 24/7.

aeffects

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Sep 19, 2008, 4:38:58 PM9/19/08
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suck-it-up Keating.... if you can put Oswald in that window, now is
the time. Truth be known the closest you can get is the lunchroom.
<sigh> you Lone Nut idiots are soooooooo easy! And speaking of
myths..... lets start with number one: the WCR... gotta be yours and
Vinnies wet-dream.

Carry on troll!

Brokedad

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Sep 20, 2008, 10:48:40 AM9/20/08
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Why not put a suit coat on, raise the collar slightly, and then lean
forward somewhat doubled over at the waste.

Might just demonstrate to you something in relationship to how the
third shotimpact/aka the one located down in front of James Atgens
position, managed to strike the back of JFK's coat just below the
lower edge of the coat collar, continue through the coat on an oblique
angle to exit and strike JFK in the scalp at the lower edge of the
hairline, tunnel through the soft tissue at the base of the neck, and
ultimately strike JFK in the EOP region of the skull at a location
which was higher on the skull (when one is sitting erect) than was the
entry into the scalp.

Were you also of the mistaken impression that it was another of those
"mere coincidences" that the purported "sample location" also happened
to be exactly the same distance right-of-center of the coat of JFK as
was the bullet entry point into the scalp?

Approximately 2.5cm/aka 1-inch.

Were you also of the misguided impression that there was no
correlation between a hole which penetrated the coat of JFK up at the
coat collar, on an oblique angle, 2.5cm right of center, had no
bearing on a bullet entrance into the scalp which was located 2.5cm
right of center at the lower edge of the hairline?


You must hold an Advanced Degree from the school of "ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE", as true intelligence is not so stupid to have fallen
for "THE SHOT THAT MISSED" and/or the purported coincidences between
the second hole in JFK's coat and the bullet penetration in the lower
edge of he scalp which is in direct alignment with that hole.


THE SECOND HOLE IN THE BACK OF THE COAT OF JFK, WHICH HOLE'S ENTRY
POINT BEGINS AT THE LOWER EDGE OF THE COAT COLLAR, AND WHICH HOLE
COMPLETELY PENETRATES THE COAT AS WELL AS EXITING THE INNER LINER OF
THE COAT, AND PASSES THROUGH THE COAT ON AN OBLIQUE ANGLE, IS THE
PATHWAY FOR THE BULLET WHICH STRUCK JFK IN THE BASE OF THE NECK (LOWER
EDGE OF THE HAIRLINE), AFTER HAVING PASSED THROUGH THE COAT, AND WHICH
BULLET STRUCK AT APPROXIMATE SURVEY STATIONING 4+95, DOWN DIRECTLY IN
FRONT OF THE JAMES ALTGENS LOCATION, AND WHICH BULLET STRUCK JFK WHEN
HE WAS LEANING FORWARD, SLIGHTLY DOUBLED OVER AT THE WAIST WITH HIS
HEAD DOWN AND SLIGHTY TURNED TO THE RIGHT.

After having passed through the mid-brain of JFK, the bullet exited to
strike JBC in the right rear shoulder as he lay across the jump seats
with his head in the lap of Nellie, thereby exposing his right rear
shoulder between the open area of the jump seats.

(Take that one to the Bank!)

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