Thomas Purvis? Who the hell is he?
YoHarvey
picked DVP for Bonehead of the Year Award:
In life, one should pay compliment to those persons (be they children
or adults) who demonstrate excellence, in whatever category.
Conversely, one would assume that clearly demonstrated ignorance
should also be fully recognized and pointed out to the individual, as
well as, if necessary, "shouted from the rooftop".
Apparently Mr. Purvis, as a devout conspiracy theorist chooses NOT to
recognize the accomplisments of:
Gil Jesus or David Healy, both of whom contribute to the UN-Educated
Forum. Mr. Purvis states "Conversely, one would assume that clearly
demonstrated ignorance should also be fully recognized and pointed out
to the individual, as well as, if necessary, "shouted from the
rooftop".
Mr. Purvis, apparently a hyprocrite of unusual proportions won't
comment on the, to use his own words "clearly demonstrated ignorance
which should also be fully recongized and pointed out to the
individual".
Of what ignorance does Mr. Purvis excuse? How's this:
Jesus: John or Nellie Connally shot JFK.
Healy: Zapruder never existed.
I have no idea of Mr. Purvis views on the assassination other than he
believes in a massive conspiracy. But, as is typical of the kook
movement, no matter how ignorant or insipid the kook theory will be,
other kooks such as Purvis will not come down on another CT. The
question is: Why doesn't Purvis, in his own words not comment on the
ignorance of Jesus and Healy? Quite simply, like maggots, kooks are
like glue. They stick together.
I'm sure DVP will respond to Purvis. In the meantime, I'll suggest to
Mr. Purvis to get an education in the area of social skills. Mr.
Purvis? Narcissism should be your middle name. And btw, lose the
special forces cap in your pic. 40 year old pics just add to the
narcissistic image.
David Von Pein
>>> "I'm sure DVP will respond to Purvis." <<<
Like with all kooks who believe in stuff that never happened (and
never could have possibly happened), it doesn't matter how many times
a rational person responds to his "2 Head Shots From Behind" idiocy,
the kook will continue to believe what he wants to believe (as
always).
Purvis thinks that Oswald was, indeed, the lone shooter...but, like
Mark Fuhrman, he's put a nifty little twist on the evidence. Purvis
thinks that there were TWO head shots, instead of just one.
And even though he believes Oswald WAS shooting with Rifle "C2766",
Purvis also is of the opinion that there could be "up to 50" Carcano
rifles with that exact same serial number on them (even though not ONE
other such rifle has surfaced in 45 years).
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=564f96c6826f72d1394a7cac32611169&showtopic=13867
And Purvis' nonsense that he started yesterday on the Education Forum
(linked above) regarding the Secret Service film I posted at YouTube
is a real howl, with Purvis actually thinking that the person in the
film who is placing the "cones" (pylons) in the street to mark the
locations where the SS thought the shots had occurred along Elm Street
placed the "Shot #2" pylon/cone at a point which represents Z-Frame
313.
But as anyone who doesn't have a ridiculous theory to peddle can
easily see, it's the "Shot #3" cone that is being placed very close to
a "Z313" position in the street. Whereas the cone representing the
second shot is placed much too far EAST along Elm St. to qualify as a
"Z313" shot/cone. Skip to the 2:35 mark in this video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=trs8W-gLwJE&fmt=18
Purvis, btw, thinks that there was a second "head shot" AFTER Z313.
And he bases that idiotic theory on the testimony of Emmett Hudson and
Jim Altgens, plus the Secret Service "plat maps", which Purvis loves
to study in great detail.
Apparently the testimony of a couple of witnesses and the SS plat maps
are supposed to suddenly make a SECOND entry hole appear in John
Kennedy's head.
~shrug~
Brokedad
> >>> "I'm sure DVP will respond to Purvis." <<<
>
> Like with all kooks who believe in stuff that never happened (and
> never could have possibly happened), it doesn't matter how many times
> a rational person responds to his "2 Head Shots From Behind" idiocy,
> the kook will continue to believe what he wants to believe (as
> always).
>
> Purvis thinks that Oswald was, indeed, the lone shooter...but, like
> Mark Fuhrman, he's put a nifty little twist on the evidence. Purvis
> thinks that there were TWO head shots, instead of just one.
>
> And even though he believes Oswald WAS shooting with Rifle "C2766",
> Purvis also is of the opinion that there could be "up to 50" Carcano
> rifles with that exact same serial number on them (even though not ONE
> other such rifle has surfaced in 45 years).
>
>
> And Purvis' nonsense that he started yesterday on the Education Forum
> (linked above) regarding the Secret Service film I posted at YouTube
> is a real howl, with Purvis actually thinking that the person in the
> film who is placing the "cones" (pylons) in the street to mark the
> locations where the SS thought the shots had occurred along Elm Street
> placed the "Shot #2" pylon/cone at a point which represents Z-Frame
> 313.
>
> But as anyone who doesn't have a ridiculous theory to peddle can
> easily see, it's the "Shot #3" cone that is being placed very close to
> a "Z313" position in the street. Whereas the cone representing the
> second shot is placed much too far EAST along Elm St. to qualify as a
> "Z313" shot/cone. Skip to the 2:35 mark in this video:
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=trs8W-gLwJE&fmt=18
>
> Purvis, btw, thinks that there was a second "head shot" AFTER Z313.
> And he bases that idiotic theory on the testimony of Emmett Hudson and
> Jim Altgens, plus the Secret Service "plat maps", which Purvis loves
> to study in great detail.
>
> Apparently the testimony of a couple of witnesses and the SS plat maps
> are supposed to suddenly make a SECOND entry hole appear in John
> Kennedy's head.
>
> ~shrug~
Hey Parrothead!
In event that you actually knew anything, then you would know that the
US Secret Service had surveyed in, as well as marked on the street,
the second shot/aka Z313 impact location.
Street elevation for this, the clearly marked SECOND SHOT on their
survey plat, happens to be elevation 418.35.
The WC, determined a street elevation of 418.48 for the Z313 impact
location elevation.
A difference of the whopping sume of 0.13 feet/ake 1.56 inches
difference.
Now, for your uneducated information, the third/last/final/AKA
directly in front of James Altgens impact point street elevation
happens to have been 416.83. (Down at survey Stationing 4+95)
Please be sure and come back to visit when you actually know something
about the SS Assassination Re-enactment which relatively accurately
surveyed in and marked on the street as well as their survey plat, the
impact point location for each of the three shots fired.
P.P.S. Anyone who has a metal detector and enjoys dodging traffic,
can most probably still locate the nail which Mr. West's survey
personnel drove down into the street.
Brokedad
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=13773&pid=160546&st=60&
Far better than chasing one's "tail", or the mythological "tales" of
others.
Why not attempt to stick your head up out of that Alice-in-Wonderland
rabbithole and look around.
It is recognized that a "little light" on the subject matter is both
bright and confusing to those who have wandered around in the dark of
the den for 40+ years.
Lastly, just perhaps you are merely seeking your spot in the "Finals"
for the 2009 "BONEHEAD of the YEAR" award.
Lack of rational thought process as well as deductive reasoning
ability is by no means limited to those who believe the Warren
Commission and their "THE SHOT THAT MISSED".
=====================================================
That was for one of the CT/"LHO was a Patsy" crowd.
Happy now!
Rest assured that I am an "equal opportunity" critic.
Actually, I should be ashamed of myself for the manner in which some,
such as Pat Speer and his "Mystery Photograph" have been degraded.
But, I'm not!
aeffects
YoHarvey is our resident Vietnam Veteran Impersonator (da dude claims
to be ONI -- LMFAO!) -- .john finally reached the bottom of the Lone
Nut barrel when he dug out this puke.... btw, if Von Pein stops fast,
YoHarvey will have his head about a foot up Davey boyo's ass
YoHarvey
>
> - Show quoted text -
Healy? We each did in Vietnam what we were qualified to do. You
cleaned toilets, I served in ONI.
Did your Nam experience turn you into the drug ravaged societal misfit
you exhibit here? You know the one I'm speaking about, don't you?
The one who believes Zapruder never existed.
Gil Jesus
getting his point across,
if it came down to Tom Purvis or David Von Pein, I'd bet my life
savings on Purvis.
Purvis has shown an ability to back up his posts with data, he is
informative and his posts are interesting. He presents his arguments
in a way that leaves the reader with no questions.
Von Pein, on the other hand is nothing more than a walking WC tape-
recorder, a fraud who keeps reposting the same threads over and over
and uses his OWN posts as a reference point and source of information.
Nearly every one of his posts has the word "kook" in reference to an
opponent, in the first sentence.
A total joke, from a research standpoint.
In short, a lurker can learn something from Purvis, not the same thing
can be said for Von Pein.
YoHarvey
Gee Gilbert, what do you then consider yourself? Let's see
here......as you've claimed, you have studied and researched the
assassination for some 30 years. After all this studying, you have
reached several conclusions:
1. The Connallys shot JFK
2. JFK was coughing up a bullet.
Interesting. Like you, Purvis has researched for many years and
determined that JFK was hit with 2 headshots....despite the
overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Seems you and Purvis, like
most kooks have much in common. DVP states OFFICIAL facts and gives
his interpetation. HUGE difference...but not to an uneducated
societal moron like yourself. That would be asking to much. I
believe Gilbert you probably understand the limits of no education.
You are the living proof.
aeffects
wakeup retard -- life is passing you by
aeffects
look dimwit..... Vietnam Vet impersonators are lower than whale shit,
find yourself a shovel and get busy!
Gil Jesus
fired ?
Will you EVER show us how Oswald loaded the ammunition clip without
leaving any fingerprints on either it or the cartridges in it ?
Will you EVER tell us how Oswald operated the bolt of the rifle
without leaving fingerprints on it ?
Will you EVER show us the medical reports that PROVE that General
Walker was wounded as a result of the shooting attempt aganist him and
that his wounds were not self-inflicted ?
Will you EVER tell us why the SS reenactment of the shooting placed
the final shot near the base of the stairs, exactly where the sewer
drains were located on BOTH sides of the limo ?
Will you EVER tell us why overpass witnesses James Simmons and Richard
C. Dodd were never called before the Warren Commission ?
Will you EVER tell us why there was no blood found on the bullet
fragments recovered from inside the limousine ?
Will you EVER show us the evidence that connected the jacket allegedly
discarded by the fleeing killer of Officer J.D. Tippit to Lee Harvey
Oswald ?
In a "normal" criminal investigation of a homicide, these questions
would be easy to answer.
Now, let's see your evidence.
aeffects
appears YoHarvey is speechless, AGAIN! The Lone Nut dolts run the
other way when it comes to the Zapruder film and possible alteration
of same.... They're speechless when it comes to the *2* FBI/SS Elm
Street reenactments... TPurvis is right-on
David Von Pein
>>> "In short, a lurker can learn something from Purvis..." <<<
Yeah, they can learn that the Secret Service was obviously wrong about
a few things.
Purvis, however, apparently thinks it's totally impossible for the SS
to have been incorrect in ANY way regarding its 1963 plat
maps....which MUST mean JFK was, indeed, shot at circa Z353 (per
Purvis).
Well, frankly, that idea is just insane. But apparently insanity
appeals to a person like Thomas H. Purvis. Go figure that.
~shrug~
I also like how one CT-Kook (Jesus) is willing to jump to the defense
of another CT-Kook (Purvis), even though the first kook (Jesus)
doesn't believe a single thing that Kook #2 (Purvis) is saying.
Or does Gil now believe that Oswald WAS guilty of killing JFK? And
does Gil now also believe that no shots came from the front of JFK's
car?
If not, then Jesus is "learning" stuff from a person who he must think
is just as kooky (in a bottom-line way) as the WC seven.
>>> "A lurker can learn something from Purvis, not the same thing can be said for Von Pein." <<<
That must be why I provide lots of citations and quotes and links
within many of my posts. Right, Gil?
Naturally, though, since these citations I provide paint the guilty
party named Oswald in a bad light, a nut like Gil feels they are of no
value at all.
Right, Gilbert?
Right.
>>> "A total joke, from a research standpoint." <<<
Yeah, you are.
samvaknin
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http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders12.html
http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders13.html
http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders14.html
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Other Personality Disorders
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Pathological Narcissism diagnosed with Other Mental Health Disorders
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NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) and AsPD (Antisocial
Personality Disorder, Psychopathy, or Sociopathy)
http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders16.html
http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders15.html
Cyber Narcissist
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/journal67.html
Narcissists as Drama Queens
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4948
The Narcissist as Know-it-all
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4945
Grandiosity, Fantasies, and Narcissism
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/narcissisticabuse/message/4923
Schizotypal Personality Disorder
http://samvak.tripod.com/personalitydisorders24.html
Paranoid Personality Disorder
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The Economics of Conspiracy Theories
Brokedad
I for one, eagerly await your explanation in regards to the SECOND
bullet penetration hole through the coat worn by JFK.
By reference: That SECOND bullet hole which is approximately 2.5cm
right of center of the back of the coat (exact same distance as the
EOP entry into the skull as well as the scalp entry at the lower edge
of the hairline at the base of the back of the neck), and which
penetration struck the coat just below the edge of the coat collar,
passed through the coat on an oblique angle "upwards* (*when the coat
is held in the normal wearing position) and then passed through the
the inner liner of the coat on it's exit.
Commander HUMES - Yes, sir. This exhibit is a grey suit coat stated to
have been worn by the President on the day of his death. Situated to
the right of the midline high in the back portion of the coat is a
defect, one margin of which is semicircular.
Situated above it just below the collar is an additional defect.
Mr. SPECTER - How about the upper one of the collar you have
described, does that go all the way through?
Commander HUMES - Yes, sir; it goes all the way through. It is not--
wait a minute, excuse me it is not so clearly a puncture wound as the
one below.
Mr. SPECTER - Does the upper one go all the way through in the same
course?
Commander HUMES - No.
Mr. SPECTER - Through the inner side as it went through the outer
side?
Commander HUMES - No, in an irregular fashion.
P.S. The attached "note from Mom" don't hardly cut it when it comes
to the actual spectrographic analysis of the hole.
P.P.S. Only a complete "simpleton" would fall for this shyster trick.
P.P.P.S. For the enjoyment of the reading public, please explain by
what strange violation of the laws of physics was it that a 6.5mm
carcano bullet travelling at an estimated 1,800 fps, struck the coat
of JFK at the edge of the collar, turned upwards to pass in a vertical
direction to exit and strike the scalp of JFK at the edge of the
hairline, and thereafter "tunnel" through the soft flesh at the base
of the neck to ultimately strike the skull in the region of the EOP.
And, such shot was fired on a downward angle of approximately 15-
degrees downward when JFK was at this position:
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z312.jpg
At risk of generation of another of the "mythological multiple
assassins", does anyone see a midget with a rifle hiding in the trunk
of the car to have achieved this factual feat?
Brokedad
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yeah, they can learn that the Secret Service was obviously wrong
about
a few things.
Purvis, however, apparently thinks it's totally impossible for the SS
to have been incorrect in ANY way regarding its 1963 plat
maps....which MUST mean JFK was, indeed, shot at circa Z353 (per
Purvis).
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You "simpleton"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/simpleton
It was the Warren Commission that utilized James Altgen's testimony as
proof that the LAST/THIRD shot did not miss.
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0070a.htm
They just did not bother to so inform you that James Altgens was some
40-feet away from the Z313 impact while Altgens himself testified that
JFK was some 15-feet distance, directly in front of his location, when
this LAST/THIRD shot impact occurred.
*Note: From the street curb at Altgens position to the center of Elm
St. directly in front of James Altgens, is 20-feet.
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z350.jpg
Mr. ALTGENS - This would put me at approximately this area here, which
would be about 15 feet from me at the time he was shot in the head--
about 15 feet from the car on the west side of the car--on the side
that Mrs. Kennedy was riding in the car.
Mr. ALTGENS - Yes. What made me almost certain that the shot came from
behind was because at the time I was looking at the President, just as
he was struck, it caused him to move a bit forward. He seemed as if at
the time----well, he was in a position-- sort of immobile. He wasn't
upright. He was at an angle but when it hit him, it seemed to have
just lodged--it seemed as if he were hung up on a seat button or
something like that. It knocked him just enough forward that he came
right on down. There was flesh particles that flew out of the side of
his head in my direction from where I was standing,
Mr. ALTGENS - Because I didn't see who fired it. After the
Presidential car moved a little past me, I took another picture--now,
just let me back up here--I was prepared to make a picture at the very
instant the President was shot. I had refocused to 15 feet because I
wanted a good closeup of the President and Mrs. Kennedy, and that's
why I know that it would be right at 15 feet, because I had prefocused
in that area, and I had my camera almost to my eye when it happened
and that's as far as I got with my camera.