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David Von Pein

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Jun 26, 2010, 9:19:28 AM6/26/10
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j leyden

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Jun 26, 2010, 10:27:25 AM6/26/10
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On Jun 26, 9:19 am, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/orlando-martin.html

Now you know why the book is self-published using Dog Ear Publishing
LLC. Ity's motto is "Express yourself in print.," Yeah, I want to
get this one.

JGL

lazu...@webtv.net

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Jun 26, 2010, 3:56:36 PM6/26/10
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I should be getting the book soon...no matter what he says it will be
more accurate than the official horseshit-neurospasms, jet effects,
magic bullets, phony autopsy photos, phony x-rays, Oswald not a lone nut
communist, rather a dupe caught up in a viper's nest of CIA, Mob and
Cuban Exiles setting him up for the President's Death...Laz

lazu...@webtv.net

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Jun 26, 2010, 4:11:35 PM6/26/10
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The main thing to understand whether you believe in ZFilm Alteration, or
Body Alteration-is the massive coverup by all Govt. Agencies is due to
JFK being shot from the front..when you understand that you understand
much more clearly what happened, otherwise you just go around and around
in circles and will never get anywhere...Laz

The first generation guys from the 60's( whatever their differences) all
understood this-God Bless Them!-
Lane-Garrison-Weisberg-Salandria-Lifton-Wecht-Thompson.

Bud

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Jun 26, 2010, 6:28:35 PM6/26/10
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Either way, it`s just as well, there are enough stupid people around
without him. Some are waiting anxiously by their mailboxes for self-
published books.

Bud

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Jun 26, 2010, 6:38:08 PM6/26/10
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On Jun 26, 4:11 pm, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:
> The main thing to understand whether you believe in ZFilm Alteration, or
> Body Alteration-is the massive coverup by all Govt. Agencies is due to
> JFK being shot from the front..when you understand that you understand
> much more clearly what happened, otherwise you just go around and around
> in circles and will never get anywhere...Laz

<snicker> It`s the kooks who chase their tails, we`ve been staying
pat with the winning hand for decades.

> The first generation guys from the 60's( whatever their differences) all
> understood this-God Bless Them!-
> Lane-Garrison-Weisberg-Salandria-Lifton-Wecht-Thompson.

How would the world be any different if they never took up this
snipe hunt? Did they accomplish anything, expose any conspiring? Soon
this whole generation of conspiracy retards will be gone, and the WCR
will still be the only explanation for what occurred on the table. It
will outlast all it`s critics, and history will laugh at the jerk-offs
who spent so much time, money and effort trying to deny the obvious.

LT

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Jun 27, 2010, 4:09:53 PM6/27/10
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Bud, it's already been disproven. It's already been debunked. Other
explanations already have been put forward. And while there is much
debate over what exactly happened, only a few brain-dead WC devotees
like yourself and self-parodying comedian troll David Von Pein
continue to deny the obvious. And you fools have no voice, save
Bugliosi and the ridiculous mainstream hatchet-jobs. Jesuit-trained
Posner has already been thoroughly discredited in so many ways, from
his work to his character, just like Jesuit-employed John McAdams.

And with Vincent "Reframing Oswald" Bugliosi as your only fit
representative, you feel silent dismay as his book is being examined
and put to the test, and gradually demolished by researchers.

No, Bud, the Warren Commission will not live on as "the explanation".
For the most part, it will live on as the joke that's only referred to
between chuckles or to make a point, while other explanations are
placed on the table.

The Commission's out. Time for you "anti-conspiracy" whackjobs to pack
up and move on.

Jason Burke

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Jun 27, 2010, 6:13:43 PM6/27/10
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lazu...@webtv.net wrote:
> The main thing to understand whether you believe in ZFilm Alteration, or
> Body Alteration-is the massive coverup by all Govt. Agencies is due to
> JFK being shot from the front..when you understand that you understand
> much more clearly what happened,


otherwise you just go around and around
> in circles and will never get anywhere...Laz

Kind of like what the CT crowd has been dowing for almost 47 years now, huh?

j leyden

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Jun 27, 2010, 8:49:37 PM6/27/10
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On Jun 26, 4:11 pm, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:
> The main thing to understand whether you believe in ZFilm Alteration, or
> Body Alteration-is the massive coverup by all Govt. Agencies is due to
> JFK being shot from the front..when you understand that you understand
> much more clearly what happened, otherwise you just go around and around
> in circles and will never get anywhere...Laz

Well, that is hard to comprehend, Vern. The "conspirators" set Oswald
up to be the Patsy but they put him behind JFK and then shoot JFK from
the front. This required all kinds of monkeyshines -- altering the
photos, the X-rays, the body, itself, and, of course, the Z-film,
etc. Things would have gone a lot smoother if they had shot JFK from
the rear. You wouldn't think a group this dumb could have gone
undetected for half a century now.

JGL

JGL

Bud

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Jun 27, 2010, 9:37:11 PM6/27/10
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On Jun 27, 4:09 pm, LT <shadowlu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 6:38 pm, Bud <sirsl...@fast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 26, 4:11 pm, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > > The main thing to understand whether you believe in ZFilm Alteration, or
> > > Body Alteration-is the massive coverup by all Govt. Agencies is due to
> > > JFK being shot from the front..when you understand that you understand
> > > much more clearly what happened, otherwise you just go around and around
> > > in circles and will never get anywhere...Laz
>
> >   <snicker> It`s the kooks who chase their tails, we`ve been staying
> > pat with the winning hand for decades.
>
> > > The first generation guys from the 60's( whatever their differences) all
> > > understood this-God Bless Them!-
> > > Lane-Garrison-Weisberg-Salandria-Lifton-Wecht-Thompson.
>
> >   How would the world be any different if they never took up this
> > snipe hunt? Did they accomplish anything, expose any conspiring? Soon
> > this whole generation of conspiracy retards will be gone, and the WCR
> > will still be the only explanation for what occurred on the table. It
> > will outlast all it`s critics, and history will laugh at the jerk-offs
> > who spent so much time, money and effort trying to deny the obvious.
>
> Bud, it's already been disproven. It's already been debunked.

No, it is disliked and unaccepted by a faction of retards.

>Other
> explanations already have been put forward.

No, they really haven`t. There is no CTer explanation for what
occurred that day that you can produce. An explanation that includes
why Oswald had a long bag that morning, why Brennan said he saw Oswald
shooting, why Markham said she saw him kill a cop, ect. Only the WCR
has a coherant explanation for these things.

> And while there is much
> debate over what exactly happened, only a few brain-dead WC devotees
> like yourself and self-parodying comedian troll David Von Pein
> continue to deny the obvious.

<snicker> The obvious? It wasn`t the person seen shooting that
killed Kennedy, it was the shooter who was unseen. It wasn`t the
bullets found that killed him, it was the bullets that went unfound.
It wasn`t the rifle found that killed Kennedy, it was the rifle
unfound. On and on, the only thing that is obvious is that you retards
have no interest in what actually occurred.

> And you fools have no voice, save
> Bugliosi and the ridiculous mainstream hatchet-jobs. Jesuit-trained
> Posner has already been thoroughly discredited in so many ways, from
> his work to his character, just like Jesuit-employed John McAdams.

I think I could have figured out Oswald was guilty without Posner,
McAdams or even the WC. It`s a pretty simple affair.

> And with Vincent "Reframing Oswald" Bugliosi as your only fit
> representative, you feel silent dismay as his book is being examined
> and put to the test, and gradually demolished by researchers.

Bugs wrote the AIDs quilt of books, you retards aren`t going to
unravel it by pulling on threads (although you retards will claim to
have, and other retards will applaud, as if something meaningful
occurred).

> No, Bud, the Warren Commission will not live on as "the explanation".

Don`t believe me. Wait a hundred years and come back from the dead
and you`ll see I am right. It will undoubtedly be the only explanation
available in the future just as it is now. All your big name conpiracy
authors will be forgotten because they really couldn`t show anything.

> For the most part, it will live on as the joke that's only referred to
> between chuckles or to make a point, while other explanations are
> placed on the table.

Where are they? There is a good reason you`ll never see a work that
Bug`s done from a CTer persepective on the evidence. In just a few
pages it would become apparent what a really unsupportable idea it is
that Oswald was innocent.

> The Commission's out. Time for you "anti-conspiracy" whackjobs to pack
> up and move on.

That is actually good advice. What could it possibly matter what
retards believe? Perhaps you guys should have ben marginalized all
along instead of treated like you have a legitimate position.


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David Von Pein

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Jun 28, 2010, 2:15:35 AM6/28/10
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I always enjoy hearing the mantra of the conspiracy nuts. It's always
pretty much the same (among the Internet kooks anyway). The basic kook
motto is this --

Since all of the evidence points toward Oswald as the killer of both
JFK & Tippit (and it does, of course), then this must mean that Oswald
is totally innocent of shooting anyone.

Try taking that motto into court and see what happens.

"When someone tells me they think Oswald was innocent, I know
one of two things -- that person is either completely unaware of the
evidence, or he's just a silly person." -- Vincent Bugliosi

Vince is right.

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