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David Von Pein
Jul 24, 2011, 11:43:39 PM7/24/11
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Below are some JFK videos of interest that I have recently uploaded to
some of my websites.
The first link includes a rarely-seen WBAP-TV documentary about the
JFK assassination, which was first aired locally in Dallas in late
November of '63.
Part 1 of the 2-part WBAP series includes film footage taken at Love
Field that goes a long way toward debunking the "Lambchop" theory, as
the footage clearly shows Jackie Kennedy holding flowers, and not some
kind of toy. (See Part 1, at 12:40 to 12:50.)
The WBAP program also features a very rare interview with Dr. Malcolm
Perry:
PRESIDENT KENNEDY IN TEXAS (1963 WBAP-TV SPECIAL PROGRAM):
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/president-kennedy-in-texas.html
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT (1983 PROGRAM, FEATURING JFK'S PRESS
CONFERENCES):
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/thank-you-mr-president.html
DEFENDING THE WARREN REPORT (1966 RADIO PROGRAM):
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/warren-commission-discussion-11-07-1966.html
WHO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD? (1993 PBS-TV DOCUMENTARY):
http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/who-was-lee-harvey-oswald.html
WOODY ALLEN ON THE JFK ASSASSINATION:
http://DVP-Potpourri.blogspot.com/2011/07/woody-allen-on-jfk-assassination.html
aeffects
Jul 25, 2011, 7:09:52 PM7/25/11
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David Von Pein
Jul 27, 2011, 12:19:42 AM7/27/11
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lazu...@webtv.net
Jul 27, 2011, 3:14:08 AM7/27/11
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Any videos of Von Pein trying to give a BJ to Bugliosi? That's the only
one of yours we wanna see...Laz
one of yours we wanna see...Laz
timstter
Jul 27, 2011, 4:27:52 AM7/27/11
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On Jul 25, 1:43 pm, David Von Pein <davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
> Below are some JFK videos of interest that I have recently uploaded to
> some of my websites.
>
> The first link includes a rarely-seen WBAP-TV documentary about the
> JFK assassination, which was first aired locally in Dallas in late
> November of '63.
>
> Part 1 of the 2-part WBAP series includes film footage taken at Love
> Field that goes a long way toward debunking the "Lambchop" theory, as
> the footage clearly shows Jackie Kennedy holding flowers, and not some
> kind of toy. (See Part 1, at 12:40 to 12:50.)
>
> The WBAP program also features a very rare interview with Dr. Malcolm
> Perry:
>
> PRESIDENT KENNEDY IN TEXAS (1963 WBAP-TV SPECIAL PROGRAM):http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/president-kennedy-in-texas.html
>
> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT (1983 PROGRAM, FEATURING JFK'S PRESS
> CONFERENCES):http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/thank-you-mr-president.html
>
> DEFENDING THE WARREN REPORT (1966 RADIO PROGRAM):http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/warren-commission-discussion...> Below are some JFK videos of interest that I have recently uploaded to
> some of my websites.
>
> The first link includes a rarely-seen WBAP-TV documentary about the
> JFK assassination, which was first aired locally in Dallas in late
> November of '63.
>
> Part 1 of the 2-part WBAP series includes film footage taken at Love
> Field that goes a long way toward debunking the "Lambchop" theory, as
> the footage clearly shows Jackie Kennedy holding flowers, and not some
> kind of toy. (See Part 1, at 12:40 to 12:50.)
>
> The WBAP program also features a very rare interview with Dr. Malcolm
> Perry:
>
> PRESIDENT KENNEDY IN TEXAS (1963 WBAP-TV SPECIAL PROGRAM):http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/president-kennedy-in-texas.html
>
> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT (1983 PROGRAM, FEATURING JFK'S PRESS
> CONFERENCES):http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/thank-you-mr-president.html
>
>
> WHO WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD? (1993 PBS-TV DOCUMENTARY):http://JFK-Archives.blogspot.com/2011/07/who-was-lee-harvey-oswald.html
>
Hi DVP,
Looks good, especially the WBAP material!
Will be giving it a closer look on the weekend.
Regards,
Tim Brennan
Sydney, Australia
*Newsgroup(s) Commentator*
timstter
Jul 27, 2011, 8:23:59 AM7/27/11
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On Jul 27, 5:14 pm, lazuli...@webtv.net wrote:
> Any videos of Von Pein trying to give a BJ to Bugliosi? That's the only
> one of yours we wanna see...Laz
> Any videos of Von Pein trying to give a BJ to Bugliosi? That's the only
> one of yours we wanna see...Laz
Dear old Laz. Always keeping the standard of the JFK assassination
debate HIGH!
KUTGW, Laz!
Disgusted Regards,
David Von Pein
Jul 28, 2011, 9:22:36 AM7/28/11
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Ben Holmes
Sep 2, 2021, 6:43:46 PM9/2/21
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On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
Why won't you cite *THAT* video?
After all, this is a video thread, isn't it?
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
Why won't you cite *THAT* video?
After all, this is a video thread, isn't it?
David Von Pein
Sep 2, 2021, 6:49:55 PM9/2/21
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And I'll add another link for good measure:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/jfk-audio-video-spotlight-page.html
Bud
Sep 2, 2021, 6:54:51 PM9/2/21
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On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>
> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>
> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
Ben Holmes
Sep 2, 2021, 7:11:11 PM9/2/21
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:49:54 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> After all, this is a video thread, isn't it?
>
>Wasn't that nice of Ben ...
My pleasure.
Tell us VonPeiny... why can't you cite a video explaining your wacky
belief that the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound?
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>
>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>>
>> Why won't you cite *THAT* video?
Dead silence...
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>
>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>>
>> Why won't you cite *THAT* video?
>> After all, this is a video thread, isn't it?
>
My pleasure.
Tell us VonPeiny... why can't you cite a video explaining your wacky
belief that the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound?
Ben Holmes
Sep 2, 2021, 7:11:33 PM9/2/21
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>
>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>
> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
The prosectors did that for me.
wrote:
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>
>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>
> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
Bud
Sep 2, 2021, 7:18:01 PM9/2/21
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On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
> >On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
> >>
> >> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
> >> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
> >
> > Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
> The prosectors did that for me.
Empty claim.
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
> >On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
> >>
> >> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
> >> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
> >
> > Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
> The prosectors did that for me.
Ben Holmes
Sep 2, 2021, 7:25:48 PM9/2/21
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
Not only did *NO* prosector describe dissecting the throat wound, Dr.
Finck, in sworn testimony, explains why they did not.
wrote:
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>>>
>>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>>>
>>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
>> The prosectors did that for me.
>
> Empty claim.
Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>>>
>>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>>>
>>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
>> The prosectors did that for me.
>
> Empty claim.
Not only did *NO* prosector describe dissecting the throat wound, Dr.
Finck, in sworn testimony, explains why they did not.
healyd...@gmail.com
Sep 2, 2021, 7:40:54 PM9/2/21
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Bud
Sep 2, 2021, 7:46:31 PM9/2/21
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On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
> >>>>
> >>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
> >>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
> >>>
> >>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
> >> The prosectors did that for me.
> >
> > Empty claim.
> Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
You support your empty claim with another empty claim.
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
> >>>>
> >>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
> >>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
> >>>
> >>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
> >> The prosectors did that for me.
> >
> > Empty claim.
> Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
> Not only did *NO* prosector describe dissecting the throat wound, Dr.
> Finck, in sworn testimony, explains why they did not.
Ben Holmes
Sep 2, 2021, 8:01:22 PM9/2/21
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> Not only did *NO* prosector describe dissecting the throat wound, Dr.
>> Finck, in sworn testimony, explains why they did not.
>
> If only you had the balls to produce this, eh?
If only you had enough courage to deny it's existence.
wrote:
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>>>>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
>>>> The prosectors did that for me.
>>>
>>> Empty claim.
>>
>> Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
>
> You support your empty claim with another empty claim.
Nothing to refute.
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>>>>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
>>>> The prosectors did that for me.
>>>
>>> Empty claim.
>>
>> Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
>
> You support your empty claim with another empty claim.
>> Not only did *NO* prosector describe dissecting the throat wound, Dr.
>> Finck, in sworn testimony, explains why they did not.
>
> If only you had the balls to produce this, eh?
Bud
Sep 2, 2021, 8:05:12 PM9/2/21
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On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 8:01:22 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >>>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
> >>>>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
> >>>> The prosectors did that for me.
> >>>
> >>> Empty claim.
> >>
> >> Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
> >
> > You support your empty claim with another empty claim.
> Nothing to refute.
You offered nothing but hot air.
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >>>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
> >>>>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
> >>>> The prosectors did that for me.
> >>>
> >>> Empty claim.
> >>
> >> Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
> >
> > You support your empty claim with another empty claim.
> Nothing to refute.
> >> Not only did *NO* prosector describe dissecting the throat wound, Dr.
> >> Finck, in sworn testimony, explains why they did not.
> >
> > If only you had the balls to produce this, eh?
> If only you had enough courage to deny it's existence.
If you ever get the balls to produce it, I will *then* give my assessment of what it is and what it isn`t.
Ben Holmes
Oct 18, 2021, 10:10:51 AM10/18/21
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:05:11 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
No, it's YOUR wacky claim about what the prosectors did or did not do
that we are examining.
>>>> Not only did *NO* prosector describe dissecting the throat wound, Dr.
>>>> Finck, in sworn testimony, explains why they did not.
>>>
>>> If only you had the balls to produce this, eh?
>>
>> If only you had enough courage to deny it's existence.
>
> You want me ...
I want you to tell me that you don't already know that this testimony
exists.
It's silly to "prove" something to you that you already know.
Yet you CONTINUALLY refuse to do so - telling me and everyone else
that you already know Dr. Finck's testimony - and that it explicitly
denies any dissection of the neck.
This is simply your "ABCD" all over again...
wrote:
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 8:01:22 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>>>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>>>>>>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
>>>>>> The prosectors did that for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Empty claim.
>>>>
>>>> Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
>>>
>>> You support your empty claim with another empty claim.
>>
>> Nothing to refute.
>
> You...
>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 8:01:22 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:46:30 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:11:33 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 6:43:46 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:43:39 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>>>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Below are some JFK videos of interest...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only one that would interest me is the one where you explain why
>>>>>>>> you think the prosectors dissected JFK's throat wound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don`t you support that it wasn`t?
>>>>>> The prosectors did that for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Empty claim.
>>>>
>>>> Nah, this is simply an historical fact.
>>>
>>> You support your empty claim with another empty claim.
>>
>> Nothing to refute.
>
No, it's YOUR wacky claim about what the prosectors did or did not do
that we are examining.
>>>> Not only did *NO* prosector describe dissecting the throat wound, Dr.
>>>> Finck, in sworn testimony, explains why they did not.
>>>
>>> If only you had the balls to produce this, eh?
>>
>> If only you had enough courage to deny it's existence.
>
I want you to tell me that you don't already know that this testimony
exists.
It's silly to "prove" something to you that you already know.
Yet you CONTINUALLY refuse to do so - telling me and everyone else
that you already know Dr. Finck's testimony - and that it explicitly
denies any dissection of the neck.
This is simply your "ABCD" all over again...
David Von Pein
Apr 12, 2022, 7:14:28 PM4/12/22
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Dr. James Humes' 1978 HSCA testimony (Video Version):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepUYWEqwEc
Related link (plus a glance at the laughable theory of Douglas P. Horne):
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/interviews-with-humes-and-boswell-1977.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepUYWEqwEc
Related link (plus a glance at the laughable theory of Douglas P. Horne):
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/12/interviews-with-humes-and-boswell-1977.html
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 12, 2022, 7:18:37 PM4/12/22
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David Von Pein
Apr 12, 2022, 7:29:37 PM4/12/22
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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P. Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this idiocy:
> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
"Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19, 2009
More:
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/06/doug-horne-part-1.html
Ben Holmes
Apr 12, 2022, 7:33:09 PM4/12/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:14:27 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>Dr. James Humes' 1978 HSCA testimony (Video Version):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepUYWEqwEc
>
>Related link (plus a glance at the laughable theory of Douglas P. Horne):
>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
If you're unwilling to put your wacky theories to the test here, why
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>Dr. James Humes' 1978 HSCA testimony (Video Version):
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepUYWEqwEc
>
>Related link (plus a glance at the laughable theory of Douglas P. Horne):
>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
do you bother posting and running?
Ben Holmes
Apr 12, 2022, 7:35:02 PM4/12/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:18:35 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:14:28 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>> Dr. James Humes' 1978 HSCA testimony (Video Version):
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepUYWEqwEc
>>
>> Related link (plus a glance at the laughable theory of Douglas P. Horne):
>> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:14:28 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>> Dr. James Humes' 1978 HSCA testimony (Video Version):
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepUYWEqwEc
>>
>> Related link (plus a glance at the laughable theory of Douglas P. Horne):
>> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>
>Doug Horne is very, very dim.
Quite provably far more knowledgeable on the case evidence than you
are.
You've completely failed to refute so much as a single sentence of
his.
And *that* fact tells the tale...
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 12, 2022, 7:35:28 PM4/12/22
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Christopher Strimbu
Apr 12, 2022, 7:36:22 PM4/12/22
to
Ben Holmes
Apr 12, 2022, 7:38:11 PM4/12/22
to
what he says with evidence.
What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
Cowards have been running from that question for YEARS!
And that fact tells the tale... you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts &
evidence in this case.
Provably!
Ben Holmes
Apr 12, 2022, 7:39:49 PM4/12/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:35:26 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:29:37 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
>>
>> For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P. Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this idiocy:
>>
>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19, 2009
>>
>> More:
>> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:29:37 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
>>
>> For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P. Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this idiocy:
>>
>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19, 2009
>>
>> More:
>> http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>
> I have seen that comment. One of the greatest mysteries of mankind
> to me is how that got a "12 out of 14 people found helpful" on Amazon.
> It's amazing.
It's only a mystery to the stupid...
> to me is how that got a "12 out of 14 people found helpful" on Amazon.
> It's amazing.
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 12, 2022, 7:46:55 PM4/12/22
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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
> >
> > For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
> > Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
> > regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
> > idiocy:
> >
> > "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
> > head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
> > 2009
> >
> >More:
> >http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
> what he says with evidence.
>
After a healthy dose of heroin, of course.
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
> >
> > For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
> > Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
> > regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
> > idiocy:
> >
> > "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
> > head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
> > 2009
> >
> >More:
> >http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
> what he says with evidence.
>
> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>
> Cowards have been running from that question for YEARS!
>
> And that fact tells the tale... you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts &
> evidence in this case.
>
> Provably!
You're provably a coward.
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 12, 2022, 7:47:35 PM4/12/22
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Ben Holmes
Apr 12, 2022, 7:48:59 PM4/12/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:47:34 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
Who are you trying to convince?
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 12, 2022, 7:49:48 PM4/12/22
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Ben Holmes
Apr 12, 2022, 7:51:12 PM4/12/22
to
On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
>>>
>>> For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
>>> Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
>>> regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
>>> idiocy:
>>>
>>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
>>> head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
>>> 2009
>>>
>>>More:
>>>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
>> what he says with evidence.
LFD.
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
>>>
>>> For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
>>> Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
>>> regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
>>> idiocy:
>>>
>>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
>>> head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
>>> 2009
>>>
>>>More:
>>>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
>> what he says with evidence.
>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>
>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
asking it, is a lie.
>> Cowards have been running from that question for YEARS!
>> And that fact tells the tale... you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts &
>> evidence in this case.
>> Provably!
LFD.
Ben Holmes
Apr 12, 2022, 7:52:12 PM4/12/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:49:46 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>No one...
Good.
You've succeeded at something...
Good.
You've succeeded at something...
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 12, 2022, 8:06:57 PM4/12/22
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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
> >
> >Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
> You're a liar.
>
> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
> asking it, is a lie.
Why do you call it a lie, Holmes? It's in Humes testimony:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
> >
> >Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
> You're a liar.
>
> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
> asking it, is a lie.
Mr. SPECTER - What time did the autopsy start approximately?
Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m. on that evening. You must include the fact that certain X-rays and other examinations were made before the actual beginning of the routine type autopsy examination.
Bud
Apr 12, 2022, 8:08:43 PM4/12/22
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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
> >
> > For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
> > Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
> > regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
> > idiocy:
> >
> > "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
> > head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
> > 2009
> >
> >More:
> >http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
> what he says with evidence.
If he actually was able to support his fantastic ideas with sufficient evidence he could do more than sell books to gullible idiots.
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
> >
> > For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
> > Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
> > regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
> > idiocy:
> >
> > "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
> > head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
> > 2009
> >
> >More:
> >http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
> what he says with evidence.
> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
> Cowards have been running from that question for YEARS!
If you actually had something you would be offering that instead.
> And that fact tells the tale... you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts &
> evidence in this case.
> Provably!
Bud
Apr 12, 2022, 8:13:35 PM4/12/22
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"Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m."
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David Von Pein
Apr 12, 2022, 8:18:35 PM4/12/22
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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:35:28 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I have seen that comment. One of the greatest mysteries of mankind to me is how that got a "12 out of 14 people found helpful" on Amazon. It's amazing.
It's because 99% of the people who posted on the now-defunct Amazon forums were outer-fringe conspiracy fantasists (just like Mr. Horne).
> I have seen that comment. One of the greatest mysteries of mankind to me is how that got a "12 out of 14 people found helpful" on Amazon. It's amazing.
I'm glad I screen-captured Horne's "Humes performed the surgery" gem before the forums completely disappeared.
David Von Pein
Apr 12, 2022, 8:26:16 PM4/12/22
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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support what he says with evidence.
~chuckle~
Benji thinks Horne has supported his belief that Humes performed surgery on JFK's head before the autopsy.
~chuckle reprise~
And what *was* that "support" again, Benji? Please enlighten the masses.
> you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts & evidence in this case.
David Von Pein
Apr 12, 2022, 8:30:11 PM4/12/22
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Getting the thread back on track (until Benji's next post full of hot air and no substance anyway)....
61 years ago today....
http://jfk-press-conferences.blogspot.com/2012/06/press-conference-9-april-12-1961.html
61 years ago today....
http://jfk-press-conferences.blogspot.com/2012/06/press-conference-9-april-12-1961.html
David Healy
Apr 12, 2022, 8:47:16 PM4/12/22
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You've been out of your league for decades. We will authorize you to ask, just ask john corbett for his autograph. Rumor has it, he does sandlot baseball umpiring, somewhere in Louisana.
So, get to the window, pay your fine and Bud will make it happen... Just think troll, only 250 more Mark Lane threads... Excited?
Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 9:45:49 AM4/13/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:15:58 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:35:28 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:35:28 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19, 2009
>I have seen that comment. One of the greatest mysteries of mankind to me is how that got a "13 out of 15 people found helpful" on Amazon. It's amazing.
>
>It's because 99% of the people who posted on the now-defunct Amazon forums were outer-fringe conspiracy fantasists (just like Mr. Horne).
>
>I'm glad I screen-captured Horne's "Humes performed the surgery" gem before the forums completely disappeared.
Why? He *DID* write a multiset volume of books, where all of this is
>It's because 99% of the people who posted on the now-defunct Amazon forums were outer-fringe conspiracy fantasists (just like Mr. Horne).
>
>I'm glad I screen-captured Horne's "Humes performed the surgery" gem before the forums completely disappeared.
detailed - ALONG WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT TERRIFIES YOU.
The fact that you can't tell me what time JFK's body arrived at
Bethesda tells the tale... believers know the answer, they just don't
want to publicly say it.
Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 9:46:39 AM4/13/22
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Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 9:52:36 AM4/13/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
about Mark Lane. Lies of omission.
You're not telling the whole story.
Are you so stupid that you don't *know* that you're lying?
Publicly state right here and now that you don't know of any other
evidence that pinpoints when JFK's body ENTERED the hospital.
It's a no-win situation - admit that you know of no other evidence,
and you prove yourself ignorant. Admit that you *DO* know of other
evidence, and you prove yourself, as I stated, a liar.
So I predict you'll refuse to answer.
>It's in Humes testimony:
>
>Mr. SPECTER - What time did the autopsy start approximately?
>Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes
>before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m. on that
>evening. You must include the fact that certain X-rays and other
>examinations were made before the actual beginning of the routine type
>autopsy examination.
You quoted too much...
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>>>
>>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
>> You're a liar.
>>
>> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
>> asking it, is a lie.
>
>Why do you call it a lie, Holmes?
I call it a lie for the SAME IDENTICAL REASON that believers whine
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>>>
>>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
>> You're a liar.
>>
>> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
>> asking it, is a lie.
>
>Why do you call it a lie, Holmes?
about Mark Lane. Lies of omission.
You're not telling the whole story.
Are you so stupid that you don't *know* that you're lying?
Publicly state right here and now that you don't know of any other
evidence that pinpoints when JFK's body ENTERED the hospital.
It's a no-win situation - admit that you know of no other evidence,
and you prove yourself ignorant. Admit that you *DO* know of other
evidence, and you prove yourself, as I stated, a liar.
So I predict you'll refuse to answer.
>It's in Humes testimony:
>
>Mr. SPECTER - What time did the autopsy start approximately?
>Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes
>before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m. on that
>evening. You must include the fact that certain X-rays and other
>examinations were made before the actual beginning of the routine type
>autopsy examination.
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 13, 2022, 10:01:47 AM4/13/22
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Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 10:06:36 AM4/13/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:26:15 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support what he says with evidence.
>
>~chuckle~
>
>Benji thinks Horne has supported his belief that Humes performed surgery on JFK's head before the autopsy.
Davy admitted to me in an email that he molests his sister.
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support what he says with evidence.
>
>~chuckle~
>
>Benji thinks Horne has supported his belief that Humes performed surgery on JFK's head before the autopsy.
>~chuckle reprise~
>
>And what *was* that "support" again, Benji? Please enlighten the masses.
>> you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts & evidence in this case.
>
>Irony Alert! (Again.)
Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 10:08:16 AM4/13/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:30:09 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>Getting the thread back on track (until Benji's next post full of hot air and no substance anyway)....
>
>61 years ago today....
>
>http://jfk-press-conferences.blogspot.co
There you go again...
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>Getting the thread back on track (until Benji's next post full of hot air and no substance anyway)....
>
>61 years ago today....
>
>http://jfk-press-conferences.blogspot.co
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 13, 2022, 10:11:23 AM4/13/22
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http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2011/04/assorted-assassination-arguments.html
Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 10:25:21 AM4/13/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:01:45 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
And indeed, the fact that Chrissy refused to answer PROVES her a liar.
>>>It's in Humes testimony:
>>>
>>>Mr. SPECTER - What time did the autopsy start approximately?
>>>Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes
>>>before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m. on that
>>>evening. You must include the fact that certain X-rays and other
>>>examinations were made before the actual beginning of the routine type
>>>autopsy examination.
>> You quoted too much...
>
>*Sigh* No, I did not lie. Dr. Humes testified that the body was received at 7:35.
https://www.reference.com/world-view/lie-omission-c9740e1f75e5556c
Amusingly, you've just called all your fellow believers who've
asserted that Mark Lane lied by omission - liars...
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 9:52:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>>>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>>>>>
>>>>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
>>>> You're a liar.
>>>>
>>>> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
>>>> asking it, is a lie.
>>>
>>>Why do you call it a lie, Holmes?
>> I call it a lie for the SAME IDENTICAL REASON that believers whine
>> about Mark Lane. Lies of omission.
>>
>> You're not telling the whole story.
>>
>> Are you so stupid that you don't *know* that you're lying?
>>
>> Publicly state right here and now that you don't know of any other
>> evidence that pinpoints when JFK's body ENTERED the hospital.
>>
>> It's a no-win situation - admit that you know of no other evidence,
>> and you prove yourself ignorant. Admit that you *DO* know of other
>> evidence, and you prove yourself, as I stated, a liar.
>>
>> So I predict you'll refuse to answer.
Another PERFECT prediction! Chrissy lost.
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 9:52:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>>>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>>>>>
>>>>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
>>>> You're a liar.
>>>>
>>>> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
>>>> asking it, is a lie.
>>>
>>>Why do you call it a lie, Holmes?
>> I call it a lie for the SAME IDENTICAL REASON that believers whine
>> about Mark Lane. Lies of omission.
>>
>> You're not telling the whole story.
>>
>> Are you so stupid that you don't *know* that you're lying?
>>
>> Publicly state right here and now that you don't know of any other
>> evidence that pinpoints when JFK's body ENTERED the hospital.
>>
>> It's a no-win situation - admit that you know of no other evidence,
>> and you prove yourself ignorant. Admit that you *DO* know of other
>> evidence, and you prove yourself, as I stated, a liar.
>>
>> So I predict you'll refuse to answer.
And indeed, the fact that Chrissy refused to answer PROVES her a liar.
>>>It's in Humes testimony:
>>>
>>>Mr. SPECTER - What time did the autopsy start approximately?
>>>Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes
>>>before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m. on that
>>>evening. You must include the fact that certain X-rays and other
>>>examinations were made before the actual beginning of the routine type
>>>autopsy examination.
>> You quoted too much...
>
>*Sigh* No, I did not lie. Dr. Humes testified that the body was received at 7:35.
Amusingly, you've just called all your fellow believers who've
asserted that Mark Lane lied by omission - liars...
Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 10:27:04 AM4/13/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:11:21 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 10:06:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:26:15 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>
>> What irony? You've refused debate for YEARS.
>
>This is the most blatantly false statement I've ever heard.
And you're a damned liar.
<christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 10:06:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:26:15 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>
>> What irony? You've refused debate for YEARS.
>
>This is the most blatantly false statement I've ever heard.
Cite any current (say, the last few years) where Davy has engaged in
debate with critics.
But you won't.
YOU'RE A DAMNED LIAR!
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 13, 2022, 10:33:34 AM4/13/22
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https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25200-i-was-a-teenage-jfk-conspiracy-freak/page/13/?tab=comments#comment-385996
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,3326.msg122158.html#msg122158
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/DZBmyrkANxA/m/YEIGG7DrAAAJ
Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 11:08:01 AM4/13/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
The fact that you had to go back 5 years simply proves that *YOU* know
you lied.
you lied.
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 13, 2022, 11:39:49 AM4/13/22
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Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 11:53:55 AM4/13/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 08:39:48 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
And if **I** posted there, he'd run.
You've not refuted what I said **AT ALL**.
And proven that you *KNEW* you were lying with a 5 year old
citation...
Davey Von Peiny is a coward who refuses to debate in an OPEN forum
with KNOWLEDGEABLE critics... he looks stupid every time. Davey is
reading this, he could ... HIMSELF ... prove me a liar by engaging in
debate.
But he won't.
Just as you're beginning to...
Where's that "explanation?"
And what time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
You've not refuted what I said **AT ALL**.
And proven that you *KNEW* you were lying with a 5 year old
citation...
Davey Von Peiny is a coward who refuses to debate in an OPEN forum
with KNOWLEDGEABLE critics... he looks stupid every time. Davey is
reading this, he could ... HIMSELF ... prove me a liar by engaging in
debate.
But he won't.
Just as you're beginning to...
Where's that "explanation?"
And what time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
Bud
Apr 13, 2022, 2:26:13 PM4/13/22
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 9:52:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
> >> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
> >>>
> >>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
> >> You're a liar.
> >>
> >> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
> >> asking it, is a lie.
> >
> >Why do you call it a lie, Holmes?
> I call it a lie for the SAME IDENTICAL REASON that believers whine
> about Mark Lane. Lies of omission.
Do you admit that Lane does this?
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
> >> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
> >>>
> >>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
> >> You're a liar.
> >>
> >> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
> >> asking it, is a lie.
> >
> >Why do you call it a lie, Holmes?
> I call it a lie for the SAME IDENTICAL REASON that believers whine
> about Mark Lane. Lies of omission.
> You're not telling the whole story.
>
> Are you so stupid that you don't *know* that you're lying?
>
> Publicly state right here and now that you don't know of any other
> evidence that pinpoints when JFK's body ENTERED the hospital.
> It's a no-win situation - admit that you know of no other evidence,
> and you prove yourself ignorant. Admit that you *DO* know of other
> evidence, and you prove yourself, as I stated, a liar.
Bud
Apr 13, 2022, 2:28:41 PM4/13/22
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Bud
Apr 13, 2022, 2:29:58 PM4/13/22
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Bud
Apr 13, 2022, 2:31:35 PM4/13/22
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He cited evidence, you just hate the evidence in this case because it doesn`t support your faith.
David Von Pein
Apr 13, 2022, 3:55:29 PM4/13/22
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s. And Benny will forever ignore the dozens upon dozens of encounters I've had with him in the past (which are all archived below):
> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/search?q=Ben+Holmes
But unless I'm willing to type out over and over again the very same responses to his never-ending complaints about the JFK evidence, Ben Holmes thinks that gives him the right to say that "Davey Von Peiny is a coward who refuses to debate in an OPEN forum with KNOWLEDGEABLE critics".
Ben is a One Trick Pony. And it's a trick that isn't fooling anybody here.
Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 4:35:52 PM4/13/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:55:28 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
>
>He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s.
But to *ANY HONEST PERSON*, what I stated is clear.
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
>
>He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s.
And Davey will run ... he cannot STAND to be made a fool of again.
As he's about to be in the "debate" about the arrival time of JFK's
body to Bethesda.
Already proven a liar, and we haven't even gotten started.
David Von Pein
Apr 13, 2022, 4:49:42 PM4/13/22
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http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2021/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1347.html
Bud
Apr 13, 2022, 4:54:18 PM4/13/22
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> Already proven a liar, and we haven't even gotten started.
Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 5:01:07 PM4/13/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
Nothing you can point to now changes what you just finished posting.
Lies of omission.
Lie again Davy... and claim you've offered the truth...the whole
truth, and nothing but the truth...
<davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:55:28 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
>>>
>>>He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s.
>> But to *ANY HONEST PERSON*, what I stated is clear.
>>
>> And Davey will run ... he cannot STAND to be made a fool of again.
>>
>> As he's about to be in the "debate" about the arrival time of JFK's
>> body to Bethesda.
>>
>> Already proven a liar, and we haven't even gotten started.
>
>From late 2021 ...
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:55:28 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
>>>
>>>He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s.
>> But to *ANY HONEST PERSON*, what I stated is clear.
>>
>> And Davey will run ... he cannot STAND to be made a fool of again.
>>
>> As he's about to be in the "debate" about the arrival time of JFK's
>> body to Bethesda.
>>
>> Already proven a liar, and we haven't even gotten started.
>
Nothing you can point to now changes what you just finished posting.
Lies of omission.
Lie again Davy... and claim you've offered the truth...the whole
truth, and nothing but the truth...
Christopher Strimbu
Apr 13, 2022, 5:06:29 PM4/13/22
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Ben Holmes
Apr 13, 2022, 5:14:23 PM4/13/22
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And if you think I cannot refute the FACT that Davy posted all the
evidence for the time JFK's body arrived at Bethesda, then let me know
what you're willing to lose in a bet.
(Amusingly, Davy has **ALREADY** run away...)
Bud
Apr 13, 2022, 7:05:51 PM4/13/22
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On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 5:14:23 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 14:06:28 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 5:01:07 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:55:28 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s.
> >>>> But to *ANY HONEST PERSON*, what I stated is clear.
> >>>>
> >>>> And Davey will run ... he cannot STAND to be made a fool of again.
> >>>>
> >>>> As he's about to be in the "debate" about the arrival time of JFK's
> >>>> body to Bethesda.
> >>>>
> >>>> Already proven a liar, and we haven't even gotten started.
> >>>
> >>>From late 2021 ...
> >>
> >> Nothing you can point to now changes what you just finished posting.
> >>
> >> Lies of omission.
> >>
> >> Lie again Davy... and claim you've offered the truth...the whole
> >> truth, and nothing but the truth...
> >
> >Ben Holmes runs from what he can't refute.
> Mark Lane stands as mute evidence that you've done EXACTLY this.
Mark Lane looks at the wrong things incorrectly.
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 14:06:28 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 5:01:07 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:55:28 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
> >>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s.
> >>>> But to *ANY HONEST PERSON*, what I stated is clear.
> >>>>
> >>>> And Davey will run ... he cannot STAND to be made a fool of again.
> >>>>
> >>>> As he's about to be in the "debate" about the arrival time of JFK's
> >>>> body to Bethesda.
> >>>>
> >>>> Already proven a liar, and we haven't even gotten started.
> >>>
> >>>From late 2021 ...
> >>
> >> Nothing you can point to now changes what you just finished posting.
> >>
> >> Lies of omission.
> >>
> >> Lie again Davy... and claim you've offered the truth...the whole
> >> truth, and nothing but the truth...
> >
> >Ben Holmes runs from what he can't refute.
> Mark Lane stands as mute evidence that you've done EXACTLY this.
> And if you think I cannot refute the FACT that Davy posted all the
> evidence for the time JFK's body arrived at Bethesda, then let me know
> what you're willing to lose in a bet.
Ben Holmes
Apr 21, 2022, 12:30:36 PM4/21/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:13:33 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
>>>>> Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
>>>>> regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
>>>>> idiocy:
>>>>>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
he needs, and doesn't quote the evidence for a pre-autopsy autopsy.
But, like Chrissy, he can't admit that he *DOES* know more evidence on
this topic... because Chickenshit knows he's lying by omission.
He doesn't have the excuse of ignorance that Chrissy has.
Chickenshit's lying, and he KNOWS he's lying.
>>>> Cowards have been running from that question for YEARS!
>> LFD.
>>>> And that fact tells the tale... you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts &
>>>> evidence in this case.
>> LFD.
>>
>>>> Provably!
>>
>> LFD.
wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
>>>>> Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
>>>>> regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
>>>>> idiocy:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
>>>>> head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
>>>>> 2009
>>>>>
>>>>>More:
>>>>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
>>>>> head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
>>>>> 2009
>>>>>
>>>>>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>>>> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
>>>> what he says with evidence.
>> LFD.
>>>> what he says with evidence.
>>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>>>
>>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
>> You're a liar.
>>
>> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
>> asking it, is a lie.
>
> Actually the liar is you...
>>>
>>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
>> You're a liar.
>>
>> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
>> asking it, is a lie.
>
>
> "Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m."
Here we see that Chickenshit is a little smarter, he only quotes what
> "Commander HUMES - The president's body was received at 25 minutes before 8, and the autopsy began at approximately 8 p.m."
he needs, and doesn't quote the evidence for a pre-autopsy autopsy.
But, like Chrissy, he can't admit that he *DOES* know more evidence on
this topic... because Chickenshit knows he's lying by omission.
He doesn't have the excuse of ignorance that Chrissy has.
Chickenshit's lying, and he KNOWS he's lying.
>>>> Cowards have been running from that question for YEARS!
>> LFD.
>>>> And that fact tells the tale... you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts &
>>>> evidence in this case.
>> LFD.
>>
>>>> Provably!
>>
>> LFD.
Ben Holmes
Apr 21, 2022, 12:30:37 PM4/21/22
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Ben Holmes
Apr 21, 2022, 12:30:37 PM4/21/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 9:52:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>>>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>>>>>
>>>>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
>>>> You're a liar.
>>>>
>>>> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
>>>> asking it, is a lie.
>>>
>>>Why do you call it a lie, Holmes?
>> I call it a lie for the SAME IDENTICAL REASON that believers whine
>> about Mark Lane. Lies of omission.
>
> Do you admit that Lane does this?
I publicly "admit" that believers whine about this.
I also state that you've never shown this.
>> You're not telling the whole story.
>>
>> Are you so stupid that you don't *know* that you're lying?
>>
>> Publicly state right here and now that you don't know of any other
>> evidence that pinpoints when JFK's body ENTERED the hospital.
>
> How does the existence of conflicting information make something a lie?
Define "lie of omission."
>> It's a no-win situation - admit that you know of no other evidence,
>> and you prove yourself ignorant. Admit that you *DO* know of other
>> evidence, and you prove yourself, as I stated, a liar.
>
> He told the truth.
He lied.
>> So I predict you'll refuse to answer.
And my prediction came true, thus proving what I stated.
wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 9:52:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:06:56 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:51:12 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>>>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>>>>>
>>>>>Humes estimated it to be 25 minutes before 8:00.
>>>> You're a liar.
>>>>
>>>> Amusing that the very first answer to that question after YEARS of
>>>> asking it, is a lie.
>>>
>>>Why do you call it a lie, Holmes?
>> I call it a lie for the SAME IDENTICAL REASON that believers whine
>> about Mark Lane. Lies of omission.
>
> Do you admit that Lane does this?
I also state that you've never shown this.
>> You're not telling the whole story.
>>
>> Are you so stupid that you don't *know* that you're lying?
>>
>> Publicly state right here and now that you don't know of any other
>> evidence that pinpoints when JFK's body ENTERED the hospital.
>
> How does the existence of conflicting information make something a lie?
>> It's a no-win situation - admit that you know of no other evidence,
>> and you prove yourself ignorant. Admit that you *DO* know of other
>> evidence, and you prove yourself, as I stated, a liar.
>
> He told the truth.
>> So I predict you'll refuse to answer.
Ben Holmes
Apr 21, 2022, 12:30:37 PM4/21/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:31:32 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
No, directly on point.
You just aren't honest enough to admit it.
> He cited evidence...
As did Mark Lane.
You just aren't honest enough to admit it.
> He cited evidence...
As did Mark Lane.
Ben Holmes
Apr 21, 2022, 12:30:37 PM4/21/22
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:08:42 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
>>>
>>> For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
>>> Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
>>> regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
>>> idiocy:
>>>
>>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
>>> head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
>>> 2009
>>>
>>>More:
>>>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
>> what he says with evidence.
LFD.
My idea is simple... cowards are TERRIFIED of examining this evidence,
because it doesn't support what they believe.
So they refuse to answer. Chrissy's answered only because she's too
new to the topic, and doesn't realize where it leads. She even quoted
evidence for the pre-autopsy autopsy that you didn't.
>> Cowards have been running from that question for YEARS!
>
> Every time you ask it it only proves you have nothing.
Every time you run it only proves you know how weak your case is.
>> And that fact tells the tale... you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts &
>> evidence in this case.
>
> Apparently you are. Provably.
Says the coward who refuses to say what it is...
>> Provably!
wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 16:29:36 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:18:37 PM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Doug Horne is very, very dim.
>>>
>>> For those who might not be aware of just how insane Mr. Douglas P.
>>> Horne is when it comes to his pathetic and wholly imaginary theory
>>> regarding a certain Dr. James Joseph Humes, just have a gander at this
>>> idiocy:
>>>
>>> "Mr. Von Pein, Dr. Humes performed the post-mortem surgery on JFK's
>>> head wounds before the autopsy." -- Douglas P. Horne; December 19,
>>> 2009
>>>
>>>More:
>>>http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com
>> And unlike your unsupported ad hominems, Douglas Horne *CAN* support
>> what he says with evidence.
LFD.
>> What time did JFK's body arrive at Bethesda?
>
> Shift that burden. If you have an idea that is advanced by that information it up to you do do it.
>
My idea is simple... cowards are TERRIFIED of examining this evidence,
because it doesn't support what they believe.
So they refuse to answer. Chrissy's answered only because she's too
new to the topic, and doesn't realize where it leads. She even quoted
evidence for the pre-autopsy autopsy that you didn't.
>> Cowards have been running from that question for YEARS!
>
Every time you run it only proves you know how weak your case is.
>> And that fact tells the tale... you're simply TERRIFIED of the facts &
>> evidence in this case.
>
Says the coward who refuses to say what it is...
>> Provably!
Ben Holmes
Apr 21, 2022, 12:30:37 PM4/21/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:54:17 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
>> Already proven a liar, and we haven't even gotten started.
LFD.
wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:55:28 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
>> >
>> >He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s.
>> But to *ANY HONEST PERSON*, what I stated is clear.
>>
>> And Davey will run ... he cannot STAND to be made a fool of again.
>>
>> As he's about to be in the "debate" about the arrival time of JFK's
>> body to Bethesda.
LFD.
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:55:28 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 11:39:49 AM UTC-4, christoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> One of them was from 2022. And you said I could go back a few years if I wanted.
>> >
>> >He sure did say that. But to Ben, I guess "the last few years" means only the 2020s.
>> But to *ANY HONEST PERSON*, what I stated is clear.
>>
>> And Davey will run ... he cannot STAND to be made a fool of again.
>>
>> As he's about to be in the "debate" about the arrival time of JFK's
>> body to Bethesda.
>> Already proven a liar, and we haven't even gotten started.
Ben Holmes
Apr 21, 2022, 12:30:37 PM4/21/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:05:50 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
LFD.
>> And if you think I cannot refute the FACT that Davy posted all the
>> evidence for the time JFK's body arrived at Bethesda, then let me know
>> what you're willing to lose in a bet.
LFD.
>> And if you think I cannot refute the FACT that Davy posted all the
>> evidence for the time JFK's body arrived at Bethesda, then let me know
>> what you're willing to lose in a bet.
Ben Holmes
Apr 21, 2022, 12:32:23 PM4/21/22
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 11:28:40 -0700 (PDT), Bud <sirs...@fast.net>
You are arguing right now that no such contention or arguments are
taking place.
That means you must **AGREE** with me.
What a moron!
wrote:
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 10:27:04 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:11:21 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 10:06:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:26:15 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What irony? You've refused debate for YEARS.
>>>
>>>This is the most blatantly false statement I've ever heard.
>> And you're a damned liar.
>>
>> Cite any current (say, the last few years) where Davy has engaged in
>> debate with critics.
>
> Show any debate here, ever.
Webster's defines "debate" as: a contention by words or arguments
>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 10:27:04 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 07:11:21 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Strimbu
>> <christoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 10:06:36 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2022 17:26:15 -0700 (PDT), David Von Pein
>>>> <davev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What irony? You've refused debate for YEARS.
>>>
>>>This is the most blatantly false statement I've ever heard.
>> And you're a damned liar.
>>
>> Cite any current (say, the last few years) where Davy has engaged in
>> debate with critics.
>
> Show any debate here, ever.
You are arguing right now that no such contention or arguments are
taking place.
That means you must **AGREE** with me.
What a moron!
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