THE CRAZY THINGS THAT CONSPIRACISTS SAY (GOBS OF EXAMPLES -- JUST FOR LAUGHS)
David Von Pein
http://www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/daa4149c43e59e75
>>> "I think these are just long-winded discussions DVP has with himself." <<<
Incorrect (as per the Rob norm).
>>> "Is there really any 'CTer'?" <<<
Yes, but it's not always the same "CTer" I'm responding to.
However, I can understand why you might think I merely invented the
"CTer" comments myself, since many of the "CTer" remarks in my
"Debates" series are so incredibly stupid, inane, and kooky. In other
words, it's sometimes difficult to believe that anyone (even a CT-
Kook) would say some of the nutty things that certain CTers say.
Here are some examples of what I mean (and these comments all came
from various conspiracy theorists, believe it or not; you can search
the archives at Google Groups and JFK-Lancer for verification if you
want to). And if you need to take a laugh break while reading the
following CTer comments, I'll understand completely.....
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CTer -- "{Tippit witnesses Virginia and Barbara Davis} did indeed call
the police first, after hearing gunfire."
CTer -- "More witnesses said the shots came from the grassy knoll than
from the TSBD."
CTer -- "Can you provide a shred of evidence which isolates Oswald as
the only sniper?"
CTer -- "You know where Oswald was aiming? You know it for sure? How
do you know?"
CTer -- "Can you absolutely be sure that he {Tippit} wasn't BM {"Badge
Man"}?"
CTer -- "I defy anybody to imagine that the bag Montgomery was
carrying would be thought of as a "guncase". ... It's nothing but a
large rectangular paper sack. And the creases on it indicate it had
been folded around some books."
CTer -- "You WC defenders will latch onto ANYTHING and claim that it
proves Oswald's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Such as his leaving
his wedding ring in the cup."
CTer -- "At the time of Tippit's murder, Oswald's hair was probably
not messed up because he had been in his room at 1:02/1:03 where he
changed his clothes and ran a comb through his hair."
CTer -- "{The} Weaver pic proves conspiracy. {The} only corner window
in the upper right-hand corner of the Depository in which the Brennan/
Fischer/Walther/Edwards suspect could be, in the Weaver Polaroid, is
on the 5th floor."
CTer -- "Any photo which shows the box sitting on the windowsill is a
fake."
CTer -- "NO ONE ever put Lee Harvey Oswald on the 6th floor at the
time of the shooting. It's a lie to assert otherwise."
CTer -- "He {James Powell} snapped his picture just a couple of
minutes BEFORE the motorcade arrived when "Oswald" stuck his rifle out
of that window."
CTer -- "Well at least you're consistent....most everything you post
is just a wild guess."
CTer -- "The DPD's case was so weak {against Oswald} that it was
nearly non-existent."
CTer -- "LHO was one of the lousiest shots the Marines ever had on the
shooting line!"
CTer -- "The revolver-emptier had a different jacket on than LHO."
CTer -- "David, You seem to have forgotten that LHO had an alibi for
his whereabouts during the shooting."
CTer -- "The curtains and curtain rods in his {LHO's} room were very
flimsy and he wanted to put in a different type. .... He forgot them
after being confronted by the cop. He didn't have time to go back and
get them before the police sealed off the building."
CTer -- "You should apologize to everyone for not researching before
posting your untrue opinions."
CTer -- "You think his {Oswald} being in the TSBD was an accident? I
will remind you of the power wielded by the men behind this
operation."
CTer -- "The LN scenario has sunk so low that it is about to
disappear. With each passing investigation, or lack thereof, new
evidence is unearthed that causes it to sink further. Mr. B had better
hurry up with his book or he will be too late to pull you out of the
quicksand."
CTer -- "Before the forensic exam, the gunshot wounds were rearranged
by a covert team to prove one, lone assassin."
CTer -- "There is persuasive evidence to believe that there never was
a paper bag--until it was realized that some method of introducing the
rifle to the TSBD by Oswald was needed."
CTer -- "It's quite easy to control the evidence when you are in
charge of the evidence. Evidence can be destroyed. Evidence can be
made to disappear. It's quite easy when everything is secret."
CTer -- "The Croft photo shows the tiny piece of JFK's shirt exiting
through his suit jacket."
CTer -- "The bullet that hit JFK in the throat was a TINY high-
velocity projectile. It didn't have the impact energy of a larger and
heavier bullet."
CTer -- "{Oswald's declaration that the backyard photo he was shown
was a fake} startled the cops...who reasoned that if the fakery was so
obvious that Lee Oswald spotted it, they could not allow it to be seen
by a nosy public."
CTer -- "We have a rifle found on the 6th floor of dubious origin."
CTer -- "There is no proof that any bullets were fired from the
Carcano that day."
CTer -- "Dale Myers' rear view is his own conception."
CTer -- "The book "Best Evidence" was a truly brilliant analysis.
Simply amazing."
CTer -- "I couldn't care less about an animation, David. An animation
is an animation is an animation."
CTer -- "The "coat bunch" is a non-issue. It is impossible for the
coat to rise up enough to make the SBT work."
CTer -- "This only goes to show LHO was a "plant" (i.e., patsy)."
CTer -- "The CT theory explains ALL the eyewitness testimony...such as
those who testified that LHO was wearing different clothes."
CTer -- "{Officer Marrion L. Baker} lied a minimum of THREE times."
CTer -- "The person who was seen in the shoe-store window, and went
into the balcony {of the Texas Theater} and got arrested there, needed
an alibi, until the wrong one got arrested."
CTer -- "After Oswald was arrested, someone figured out that LHO's
pistol and the cartridges {at the Tippit murder site} didn't match. So
into the trash go some cartridges, and into the record go others."
CTer -- "Howard Brennan DESCRIBED the gunman in the WEST-end window."
CTer -- "Given the FACT some {people} believe the Zapruder film is a
complete fabrication, it makes the above {"Z-Film Supports The SBT"
declaration} rather suspect; not to mention {rendering} Myers' cartoon
useless."
CTer -- "How in God's name could Lee Harvey Oswald have the power to
get the Secret Service, protecting Kennedy's limousine, to stand
down?"
CTer -- "When the SBT is patently false, it's just one step to knowing
that there is a greater possibility of multiple shooters."
CTer -- "There's every possibility that Oswald helped a shooter sneak
into the building."
CTer -- "It is physiologically impossible for him {JFK} to have been
struck at Z224 and be making VISIBLE major muscle arm movements 1/18th
to 2/18ths of a second later."
CTer -- "The bullet that entered his {JFK's} throat was lodged in it."
CTer -- "If you run Zapruder frames 350-355 back-and-forth
successively in stabilized form, watching Altgens' leg shadows on the
curb area, can you believe what you see? ... Z350, 352, and 354 have
similar angles, and the intervening 351 and 353 have the section on
the curbstone kinking back absurdly."
CTer -- "It would worry me if you DID believe it was one superhuman
shooter from a window."
CTer -- "The {Sniper's-Nest} boxes are comparatively insignificant."
CTer -- "The government never has proven its case."
CTer -- "One photo was taken of a bullet being recovered that is
nowhere in evidence."
CTer -- "The FBI was there to re-write history if needed; as they did
with any number of eyewitness accounts."
CTer -- "David, you wouldn't even admit to the visible damage at the
rear of Kennedy's head in the Zapruder film."
CTer -- "The gun used by Oswald in the theater was not the same
weapon, as it had a misfiring pin."
CTer -- "There's documentation to suggest that only two bullets were
fired from that location {the SN in the TSBD} -- or at least, only two
bullet casings were found, not three as was later claimed."
CTer -- "Tina Towner's film has a splice just as JFK's car is opposite
the TSBD entrance. Do you suppose LHO standing out front may be the
reason for the missing frames?"
CTer -- "The mastoid process is an unfixed point {on the body}."
CTer -- "{David} Belin's methods and spouting off without any real
evidence are also known to be highly despicable."
CTer -- "Almost everything you propose {re. JFK's throat wound being
one of exit} should be dismissed immediately."
CTer -- "They {the Secret Service} would have never allowed open
windows {along the motorcade route}."
CTer -- "Davey-boy is free to explain why Parkland felt the need to
insert chest tubes if no damage ever occurred in the chest."
CTer -- "Circumstantial evidence is never sufficient in and of itself
to give anything other than a likelihood. It's an indication, but it's
not proof."
CTer -- "Ruby was let inside {the DPD basement} by one of his many
police friends."
CTer -- "Oswald's fingerprints were not located on the rifle."
CTer -- "{Dale} Myers is a chronic liar and a phony."
CTer -- "Oh my God! You are appalled at the idea that Oswald might
steal some curtain rods, but think nothing of accusing him of a double
murder?"
CTer -- "I don't think the things you list tell anyone that Oswald
murdered Tippit."
CTer -- "The best piece of evidence of a conspiracy is the way JFK's
head jerks backward after being shot."
CTer -- "The shell casings from the Tippit killing got changed. An
officer wrote his initials on them."
CTer -- "CE399 could have indeed come from near the top of the Dal-Tex
building."
CTer -- "Just a few inches one way {the SBT bullet's path, that is,
per this kook's Oscar-worthy fantasy account of the event} and then it
suddenly stops, reverses direction...I don't believe LHO even was a
shooter...And that piece-of-junk rifle..."
CTer -- "The pattern didn't look like one bullet going through two
bodies. The Warren Commission was forced to make it so appear. You're
stuck with a zig-zagging bullet."
CTer -- "The killer would not need to run if he knew that the police
were going to blame the murder on Lee Oswald."
CTer -- "Because Ruby killed Oswald before the trial, Oswald is
innocent. Innocent of killing Kennedy and Tippit."
CTer -- "The CTers' theory explains the frame-up being performed on
Oswald PRIOR to the assassination (the car lot, the rifle range, the
scope being mounted...)."
CTer -- "The only evidence as to his {Oswald's} location suggests he
wasn't on the 6th floor at the time of the shooting."
CTer -- "He {Howard Brennan} knew Lee was not the man whom he had seen
with a rifle."
CTer -- "The crime was quite simple to solve until someone dreamed up
the SBT."
CTer -- "Multiple shooters from multiple positions, firing in-synch,
would cause confusion as to where shots were coming from, and
ultimately make it seem plausible they came from wherever would be
convenient."
CTer -- "Someone wanting to forge photos might have only one reference
photo of Oswald looking straight forward and need to use it for all
the photos."
CTer -- "When JFK is shot in the head, why does his wife suddenly move
to the back of the car like she's trying to get out? I never
understood why she did that."
CTer -- "The bullet {CE399} was found and handled by a civilian,
Darrell Tomlinson. Therefore, the bullet is not evidentially
preserved."
CTer -- "There is absolutely no limit to the number of people who are
willing to cooperate in the cover-up."
CTer -- "Anyone can plant shell casings on the floor."
CTer -- "You don't have a single clue to what the conspirators were
thinking, nor can you even name them."
CTer -- "There seems to be plenty of reliable evidence that it wasn't
Oswald who killed Tippit."
CTer -- "The exact location and nature of JFK's wounds have been
totally fouled up for the historical record; and it wasn't by accident
or through incompetence."
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DEBATING THE JFK MURDER CASE (ALL 60 VOLUMES):
www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/d64779e514304326
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Gary Buell
> http://www.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/browse_thread/thread/d...
Damn you are prolific, I'll give you that. Have you thought of putting
this material into a 2000 page book, so that in addition to not
reading your newsgroup posts and your blog, we can also not read your
book?
aeffects
ROTFLMFAO!
David Von Pein
>>> "Damn you are prolific, I'll give you that. Have you thought of putting this material into a 2000 page book..." <<<
A few people have suggested it would be a good idea for me to do that
very thing (i.e., write a book). But I doubt that 2,000 pages would be
enough. 4,000 might be a better number. ~grin~
Maybe I could give the book this title:
"AUGMENTING VINCE: MORE COMMON SENSE & LOGIC SURROUNDING THE
ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY". (Copyright 2013, CS&L
Publishers, Inc.)
>>> "...so that in addition to not reading your newsgroup posts and your blog, we can also not read your book?" <<<
Cool idea. Then conspiracists could have the additional satisfaction
of knowing they've ignored another 2,000 pages of CS&L [Common Sense &
Logic].
You've certainly got your head screwed on correctly, Mr. Buell. (For a
conspiracist, that is.)
;)
BTW/FYI......
My JFK Blog is certainly not being totally ignored. Some people are
visiting it on a regular basis. I can't, of course, tell if anybody
going there is actually READING any of my material (many people might
be visiting my blog just for the wealth of audio and video links,
instead of going there for the pro-LN articles)....but, in any event,
my blog is getting approximately 100 visits (hits) per day.
Now I realize that's not exactly a huge number for a website/(blog).
But, in my opinion, it's not a terrible stat either. In fact, I've
been quite surprised that I get that many visits per day. It's
probably due (mostly) to John McAdams' kindness from many months ago,
when he added a link to my JFK Blog on the "Sites" page of his
excellent website:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sites.htm
And all of the current 25,000+ "hits" that my blog has amassed thus
far (since late 2007) are not JUST ME. Many of those visits ARE my
own, true. But most of them are not:
www.DavidVonPein.blogspot.com/2008/09/some-jfk-related-video-and-audio.html
aeffects
Sam Brown
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> no free advertising asshole......
Yap Yap poodle. Jeesh! You are such a dimwit.
aeffects
> "aeffects" <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:2aa7d383-709e-4295...@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
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> > no free advertising asshole......
>
> Yap Yap poodle. Jeesh! You are such a dimwit.
put the lid on that tuna bowl trash heap, Ms. Perv..... you ever gonna
get a job, dipshit. Your brother can't carry your sorry ass much longer
Sam Brown
Yanked your chain, again. Yap Yap poodle. ROTFLMAO
aeffects
> "aeffects" <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 23, 9:34 pm, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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> > "aeffects" <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:2aa7d383-709e-4295...@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
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> > > no free advertising asshole......
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> > Yap Yap poodle. Jeesh! You are such a dimwit.
>
> put the lid on that tuna bowl trash heap, Ms. Perv..... you ever gonna
> get a job, dipshit. Your brother can't carry your sorry ass much longer
>
> Yanked your chain, again. Yap Yap poodle. ROTFLMAO
Ms. Tuna, ya do what I want you to, nothing else freeloader, NOTHING
ELSE..... ROTFLMFAO you Nutters are such egotiscal dweebs..... I pitch
Chain yanking you catch, You pitch Chain I slap it in your face.....
batter up pervie....LMFAO!
Sam Brown
Yap Yap poodle! LOL
aeffects
> "aeffects" <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:4c5c897b-3a9d-4fd6...@r5g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 23, 9:50 pm, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
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>
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> > "aeffects" <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:49001ba1-2ffd-4a3f...@d7g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 23, 9:34 pm, "Sam Brown" <samjbrow...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > "aeffects" <aeffect...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:2aa7d383-709e-4295...@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > no free advertising asshole......
>
> > > Yap Yap poodle. Jeesh! You are such a dimwit.
>
> > put the lid on that tuna bowl trash heap, Ms. Perv..... you ever gonna
> > get a job, dipshit. Your brother can't carry your sorry ass much longer
>
> > Yanked your chain, again. Yap Yap poodle. ROTFLMAO
>
> Ms. Tuna, ya do what I want you to, nothing else freeloader, NOTHING
> ELSE..... ROTFLMFAO you Nutters are such egotiscal dweebs..... I pitch
> Chain yanking you catch, You pitch Chain I slap it in your face.....
> batter up pervie....LMFAO!
>
> Yap Yap poodle! LOL
must be a lesbo thingy, eh?
Sam Brown
Just had your chain yanked again. Yap Yap poodle.
Gil Jesus
WHAT DOES "BACK AND TO THE LEFT" PROVE? ANYTHING?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/422b8ff853bebd3e
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It's not possible for Craig to be correct about Tippit being shot at
"1:06 PM", because Lee Harvey Oswald is the person who shot Officer
Tippit.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bf389b5a7ca5ee81
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But, let's assume for the sake of argument that there were/are several
different MC 91/38 rifles with the exact same serial number on them of
"C2766"..........So what?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/dc1d90f0571b73f0
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MORE TO COME
Ben Holmes
Gil Jesus says...
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>WHAT DOES "BACK AND TO THE LEFT" PROVE? ANYTHING?
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>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/422b8ff853bebd3e
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>It's not possible for Craig to be correct about Tippit being shot at
>"1:06 PM", because Lee Harvey Oswald is the person who shot Officer
>Tippit.
This is a sore point with LNT'ers & trolls, for it's a simple fact that the most
*credible* evidence points to an earlier time than could be allowed.
Tippit's murder happened *before* Oswald *COULD* have gotten there.
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/bf389b5a7ca5ee81
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>But, let's assume for the sake of argument that there were/are several
>different MC 91/38 rifles with the exact same serial number on them of
>"C2766"..........So what?
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy.jfk/msg/dc1d90f0571b73f0
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tomnln
"Gil Jesus" <gjj...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I know of one ! I know of one ! I know of one ! I
know of one !
Dr. (Urologist) John Lattimer HAS One (Exactly the SAME) Including SAME
serial number !
SEE>>> http://whokilledjfk.net/Lattimer.htm
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