PROBE INTERVIEW OF TANENBAUM: AN ERROR OF THE FACT?
JOHN WOODS,II
In the July-August issue of Probe, Mr. Tanenbaum was ask by Jim
DiEugenio regarding the existence of a Cuban exile film.
Jim ask, "Another thing you've discussed and it's featured in your book,
is this incredible movie of the Cuban exile training camp." Mr.
Tanenbaum replied in part, "To the best of my recollection, we found
that movie somewhere in the Georgetown library archive."
However, in his letter of March 2, 1999, Mr. George M. Barringer,
Assistant University Librarian, Special Collections & Archives of
Georgetown University told me different. In his letter he stated, "Mr.
Tanenbaum's recollection, that e found film footage of Cuban exiles
training in this country at Georgetown, is mistaken. We have never had
such footage."
And so this mystery film footage remains simply a mystery.
Sincerely yours,
John R. Woods
"I speak truth, not so much as I would,
but as much as I dare; and I dare a little the more as I grow older."
{Montaigne}
Dreitzes
>From: JWOODSE...@webtv.net (JOHN WOODS,II)
>Date: 3/6/99 4:59 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <22180-36...@newsd-262.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
>
>
>In the July-August issue of Probe, Mr. Tanenbaum was ask by Jim
>DiEugenio regarding the existence of a Cuban exile film.
>Jim ask, "Another thing you've discussed and it's featured in your book,
>is this incredible movie of the Cuban exile training camp." Mr.
>Tanenbaum replied in part, "To the best of my recollection, we found
>that movie somewhere in the Georgetown library archive."
>
>However, in his letter of March 2, 1999, Mr. George M. Barringer,
>Assistant University Librarian, Special Collections & Archives of
>Georgetown University told me different. In his letter he stated, "Mr.
>Tanenbaum's recollection, that e found film footage of Cuban exiles
>training in this country at Georgetown, is mistaken. We have never had
>such footage."
>
>And so this mystery film footage remains simply a mystery.
>
>
>
>
>Sincerely yours,
>
>John R. Woods
Anyone who would like to see what Tanenbaum claims the film depicted should
check out part two of my article, "Oswald in New Orleans" at the URL below. You
might want to hurry, though: The section on Tanenbaum grows more and more
likely to vanish with each passing month -- and if it does, it will be no
mystery at all.
Dave Reitzes
For my series on Lee Harvey Oswald, spotlighting the research and theory of
John Armstrong, please see:
gopher://freenet.akron.oh.us:70/11/SIGS/JFK/Only/JA/DR
Dreitzes
And anyone who doesn't think I'm dreading the day McAdams asks me the logical
follow-up question simply hasn't been paying attention.
DR
Joe Backes
in Los Angeles in 1996, which was before his book, which was a fictional
account based on his work with the HSCA.
See - <A
HREF="gopher://freenet.akron.oh.us:70/0/SIGS/JFK/FP/fp.back_issues/.13th_I
ssue/fp.html">Fair Play</A>
Fair Play Issue #13, November-December, 1996
Tannenbaum - "We came across a film of anti-Castro Cubans, who were identified
as anti-Castro Cubans, not on the film but people that we recognized, and these
soldier-of-fortune types were the contract employees, CIA, the Sturgises, the
Hemmings and other individuals. Again somewhat shocking to me because I learned
at P.S. # 32 in Brooklyn when I was in Public School that there was an Army,
Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard. I didn't know of any secret armies
that were existing in America.
Later in the transcript -
DR. HALL- And that film had been obtained from the Georgetown University
Library?
MR. TANNENBAUM- That is my best recollection. Is that, investigators and
researchers found it in the Georgetown Library Archives, as I recall.
DR. HALL- And just for the record the significance of this film if it were now
recovered would be?
MR. TANNENBAUM- Well, it showed, again, it could be Sherlock Holmesian, it
could be an everything, it could be a nothing. On the one hand it shows a lot
of anti-Castro Cuban players with CIA contract people in a military training
setting. There was some speculation somewhat unclear as to the direct
identities of some of these people. And as I stand here now I am not going to
tell you exactly who they were but there were some of the major players in this
whole case. Now does that mean for example, in a direct answer to your question
Mr. Hall that if we continued our probe into the anti-Castro Cuban connection
with the CIA that that would show that the CIA in some fashion was responsible
for the assassination? I can't say that and I will not say that. And it doesn't
mean also that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone. I can't say that but there
is certain medical evidence that suggests and other evidence that suggests that
he did not act alone. That is a whole different area of inquiry. So with
respect to the film it was just another piece in this great mosaic of trying to
understand and recapture what occurred at a time. And that is one of the
reasons why it was a fascinating view.
DR. HALL- A critical piece of evidence, this is a piece of material that you
have previously seen in the course of doing so you know as an investigator that
is currently not available.
MR. TANNENBAUM- Well, again, I don't know where it is , whether it's available
or not but yes I did see that in my role on the Committee.
DR. HALL- Thank you.
Joe Backes
Joe Backes
JOHN WOODS,II
1977 or 1979. There is an index of available items available from the
university.
Sincerely yours,
John R. Woods
JOHN WOODS,II
I wonder if the Assassination Archives Research Center {AARC} has this
film footage?
A number of the anti-Castro group photographs
are from AARC as listed in Noel Tywman, "Blooded Treason."
However, a greater number of photographs are missing from Archives 11
such as the photographs taken in conjuection with "Operation Tilt" AKA
"Operation Red Cross.
Your thoughts.
Atlasrecrd
This film had to disappear as it apparently showed Oswald in the camp with the
exiles.
It was pilfered shortly after it came to the attention of the committee. There
was no way the CIA could let it circulate.
JOHN WOODS,II
way the CIA could let it circulate. -atlasrecrd
Are you stating for the fact that Oswald WAS in the camp with the
exiles. I would like to obtain
copies of the documents if possible. Thanks!
Who stated that Oswald was seen in this film?
Thanks again!!
Dreitzes
>From: JWOODSE...@webtv.net (JOHN WOODS,II)
>Date: 3/8/99 3:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <25580-36...@newsd-262.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
>
>OK! You caught my interest. You stated:
>
> This film had to disappear as it apparently
> showed Oswald in the camp with the exiles.
> It was pilfered shortly after it came to the
> attention of the committee. There was no
> way the CIA could let it circulate. -atlasrecrd
>
>Are you stating for the fact that Oswald WAS in the camp with the
>exiles. I would like to obtain
>copies of the documents if possible. Thanks!
>
>Who stated that Oswald was seen in this film?
>Thanks again!!
>
>Sincerely yours,
>
>John R. Woods
Tanenbaum did, and self-proclaimed CIA hitman Col. William Bishop claimed in
1990 to have seen Oswald in a "training film" during the summer of 1963, which
sounds like the same film. Bishop is a shady character even by JFK researcher's
standards (he claimed to have personally executed Jimmy Hoffa, for example) but
his mention of a film -- to the best of my knowledge -- predates Tanenbaum's
first public mention of it.
Here is everything I know about this alleged film, from part two of my article
"Oswald in New Orleans" at the URL below.
Robert Tanenbaum had been the original Deputy Chief of the House Select
Committee on Assassinations, appointed by the original Chief Counsel, attorney
Richard A, Sprague. Tanenbaum had studied law at the University of California
at Berkeley and went on to work for District Attorney Frank Hogan in New York
County. While there Tanenbaum served as Bureau Chief of the Criminal Courts of
the Felony Trial Bureau, and Deputy Chief then Acting Chief of the Homicide
Bureau, where he tried several hundred cases to verdict. When Sprague -- who
Tanenbaum had never met -- called him out of the blue one day in 1976 and
offered him the position of Deputy Chief Counsel leading the Congressional
investigations of the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther
King, Tanenbaum didn't know a thing about these events except what he'd read in
the papers. He had only one question -- he "wanted assurance from the Committee
that whatever the facts were we would be permitted to tell the American people.
. . . The focus was to deal with these cases as homicides." Sprague, a highly
successful and rigorous prosecutor himself, assured him that was the case; he
was mistaken.
Tanenbaum resigned soon after he'd watched Sprague forced out by interests that
clearly feared the result of a thorough and honest investigation. "I wasn't
going to participate any longer when I found out that the Congress was not
going to tell the truth," he told the Assassination Records Review Board in
1996. "I didn't want to participate in a historical fraud. . . . My daughter,
when I was in Washington, was three years old. She is now a junior at UCLA. And
I did not want to look at her years later and [have her know that I] put my
rubber stamp on a report that I knew was a fraud."
Board member Dr. Kermit Hall asked, ". . . about what other materials might be
where -- You didn't speak to the question of the film that you were, that deals
with anti-Castro Cubans. . . . So I wonder if you could speak to that
particular matter."
". . . As far as where the film is, again, I can only tell you that all of the
material, I assumed was . . ." He laughed bitterly. " . . . in the same place.
. . ."
"And that film had been obtained from the Georgetown University Library?" Dr.
Hall asked.
"That is my best recollection. . . . Investigators and researchers found it in
the Georgetown Library archives."
"And just for the record, the significance of this film if it were recovered,
would be . . . ?
". . . On the one hand it shows a lot of anti-Castro Cuban players with CIA
contract people in a military setting. There was some speculation, somewhat
unclear, as to the direct identities of some of these people. And as I stand
here now, I am not going to tell you exactly who they were, but there were some
of the major players in this whole case."
The film was an 8 mm "home movie" from the summer of 1963. It vanished into
thin air, while in the HSCA's custody, sometime after Tanenbaum's departure.
Here is Tanenbaum's description of what the film contained, condensed from his
novel based in part on his HSCA experiences, *Corruption of Blood.* The plot of
the novel is fictionalized; the evidence discussed is not.
". . . The small square screen showed a shadowy landscape, some bushes and
trees, then a road. The film was black-and-white and grainy, or perhaps the
graininess was just an artifact of the ground-glass screen of the editing
machine. In any case, the film seemed to have been shot in bad light, at dusk
perhaps, or in moonlight.
"The camera panned across dark woods that seemed vaguely tropical -- palmettos,
Spanish moss, and hanging vines -- past an open field, and onto the road again.
A line of two-and-a-half-ton military trucks appeared, moving slowly, their
headlights cut to thin slits. The trucks stopped and soldiers leaped out and
lined up on the road. They were dressed in fatigues and soft caps. Most carried
rifles, but there were some with machine guns and mortar components, and . . .
one with a folded bazooka.
"The film now cut jerkily to maneuvers: the soldiers rushed across the field
and flung themselves down, while others provided covering fire. The film was
silent, but you could see the pinpoints of fire from the rifles and the
shimmering gouts of muzzle blast from the machine guns. It cut to a mortar team
firing, dropping the shells in odd silence down the tubes and shielding their
ears from the blasts. . . . they seemed well drilled.
". . . Now the camera was obviously in a vehicle of some kind, an open vehicle
because the camera could pan around 360 degrees. A jeep: the well-known square
hood flashed by and then the backs of the heads of two men with military caps
on. A white road sign loomed up and started to whip by. . . . The road sign had
the shape of Louisiana and a number."
This is by Lake Pontchartrain, near New Orleans. The jeep ride ended and the
camera cut to a group of five men standing around a jeep, talking, as troops
filed by in the background. There were two unidentified Cubans. There was a
"stocky guy with the round face" -- Antonio Veciana of the CIA-backed
anti-Castro squad, Alpha 66. There was a "tall, ugly guy" -- Guy Banister, head
of the Anti-Communist League of the Caribbean, resident of 544 Camp Street, New
Orleans. There was a figure wearing civilian clothes, "a tall man with dark
hair, a prominent nose, and deeply impressed wrinkles under his eyes . . .
turning away from the lens as the shot opened, as if more interested in some
background object than in the conversation the men were having; that, or he had
a predisposition to avoid being the subject of photography. Tanenbaum believes
this man was CIA officer David Atlee Phillips.
"In the treacly movements of slow motion, the camera's view moved to another
group of men standing by a truck. One of the men in the group turned around and
smiled at the camera. It was actually more of a smirk than a smile, the famous
smirk. . . . Lee Harvey Oswald." There were several unidentified men.
". . . The screen brightened. It was full day. Some men were shooting pistols
at a crude outdoor firing range, firing at man-shaped targets nailed to trees."
Antonio Veciana appeared in civilian clothes now, "holding an .45 and smiling.
The view moved unsteadily at each soundless explosion. Two men, grinning, held
up a well-punctured target. A man in a black T-shirt and ball cap sat at a
table loading bullets into pistol magazines. He looked up for an instant,
frowned, spoke briefly, and lowered his head again so that the bill of the cap
obscured his face. He resembled Oswald, but Tanenbaum thought it had "to be
some time later than in the first scenes, because his sideburns [had] grown
longer. . . . More shooting, men posing with weapons, then a close-up of a
round-faced man with a fright wig and patently phony, impossibly thick
eyebrows. . . David Ferrie . . . nobody else looked like Ferrie."
The film cut to a shot of the man who looked like Oswald in the ball cap and
black T-shirt. "The shot was taken from the rear and showed him standing,
aiming at a target twenty-five yards downrange and firing off seven shots
rapidly. . . . The camera moved in for a close-up of the head of the target
silhouette. It was shredded and flapping away from its fiberboard backing.
There was more target practice, then another twenty seconds of paramilitary
exercises. Then it ended."
Shortly before his death in 1990, longtime CIA hitman Colonel William Bishop
was asked by Dick Russell, in the presence of veteran researcher J. Gary Shaw,
if he'd ever met Lee Harvey Oswald. Bishop said he had not, but offhandedly
volunteered, "I did look into Oswald's background [in 1963]. I'd never met him,
but I'd seen him in a training film in New Orleans the past summer. He just
happened to be in the group out there at the Pontchartrain camp. Trying to get
in with the anti-Cuban exiles" (Russell, *The Man Who Knew Too Much,* 508).
New Orleans resident George Wilcox told historian Michael Kurtz that he
observed "Ferrie, Oswald, and numerous Cubans, all dressed in military fatigues
and carrying automatic rifles, conducting what appeared to be a 'military
training maneuver.' This event took place near Bedico Creek, a swampy inland
body of water near Lake Pontchartrain, about fifty miles north of New Orleans.
This occurred in early September 1963, two months after the final government
raid on anti-Castro guerilla camps in the United States" (Interview of
September 9, 1979; Kurtz, Crime of the Century, 203, 260 fn.).
One of these days I have to give Mr. Wilcox a call, along with a couple of
other Kurtz witnesses . . .
Dave Reitzes
Joe Backes
How do you know it was from the summer of 1963? Did Tannenbaum state this
somewhere?
The thing that's really rather interesting to me about Oswald in the training
camps with anti-Castro cubans is it's when LHO is in Russia. This gets lost
when people are looking for who the anti-Castro Cubans might be. According to
Marita Lorenz, and others LHO is there in 1961, maybe 1962 too. I have
Marita's book, and her very interesting HSCA executive session testimony, and I
really don't want to reread them just to nail down this point. But I always
undeerstood it was significant because this film would show an Oswald, when
he's supposedly in Russia. I do recall that the HSCA was very dismissive of
Marita Lorenz's story because they argue it's impossible because LHO is in
Russia when Lorenz claims to be seeing him in these Florida anti-Castro Cuban
training camps.
I'm doing this from memory. I did write about this document, I think on FP
somewhere.
I think Stone's "JFK" also refers to LHO being in these training camps, based
on Jack Martin's story, and again I think he's referring to pre-1963. He was
played by Jack Lemmon in the film. I don't think the point was empahsized
about LHO being in Russia and these camps at the same time.
And when could LHO be in these camps in 1963? Okay, you got this Wilcox guy,
and Col. Bishop. Hmm, Sept. of 1963.
There is also the story of FBI agent Alex Roth who disappeared and was probably
killed. Lorenz said he had photographs of the people in these camps, some
showing Oswald.
I think you're interpreting things based on Tannenbaum's fictional work.
Joe Backes
JOHN WOODS,II
Thanks for the quick e-mail!
Here is the contents of my last e-mail to Mr. Barringer of 6 March 1999.
"Concerning your statement made in
your letter you wrote "Mr. Tanenbaum's
recollection, that he found film footage of
Cuban exiles training in this country at
Georgetown, is mistaken." In regards to
"this country" do you mean that you have
film footage taken of the exiles taken in
other countries? I'm sorry to push this
answer. but I feel it requires clarification.
Thank you."
I'm attempting to locate my previous letter to him where I ask if there
is any documents
pertaining to the duplication, transfer of this
film, internal memo's etc.
Thanks!
Sincerely yours,
John R. Woods
Dreitzes
>Date: 3/8/99 5:05 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <19990308170505...@ng39.aol.com>
>
><< The film was an 8 mm "home movie" from the summer of 1963. >>
>
>
>How do you know it was from the summer of 1963? Did Tannenbaum state this
>somewhere?
>
>The thing that's really rather interesting to me about Oswald in the training
>camps with anti-Castro cubans is it's when LHO is in Russia.
That depends greatly upon who you ask. The Florida witnesses say that, yes; the
Louisiana witnesses, however, speak of the summer of 1963.
This gets lost
>when people are looking for who the anti-Castro Cubans might be. According
>to
>Marita Lorenz, and others LHO is there in 1961, maybe 1962 too. I have
>Marita's book, and her very interesting HSCA executive session testimony, and
>I
>really don't want to reread them just to nail down this point. But I always
>undeerstood it was significant because this film would show an Oswald, when
>he's supposedly in Russia.
The film, according to Tanenbaum, was from Lake Pontchartrain; please see my
previous post containing Tanenbaum's description of the film.
>I do recall that the HSCA was very dismissive of
>Marita Lorenz's story because they argue it's impossible because LHO is in
>Russia when Lorenz claims to be seeing him in these Florida anti-Castro Cuban
>training camps.
>
>I'm doing this from memory. I did write about this document, I think on FP
>somewhere.
>
>I think Stone's "JFK" also refers to LHO being in these training camps, based
>on Jack Martin's story, and again I think he's referring to pre-1963.
No, he's referring to Louisiana, in the summer of 1963. Jack Martin talked
about the Lake Pontchartrain camp; he did not speak of any activities in
Florida. One of the better sources for information on this is Harold Weisberg's
*Oswald in New Orleans.*
He was
>played by Jack Lemmon in the film. I don't think the point was empahsized
>about LHO being in Russia and these camps at the same time.
>
Because it's not true. You're mixing up your witnesses.
>And when could LHO be in these camps in 1963? Okay, you got this Wilcox guy,
>and Col. Bishop. Hmm, Sept. of 1963.
>
>There is also the story of FBI agent Alex Roth who disappeared and was
>probably
>killed.
I think you mean Alexander Rorke.
>Lorenz said he had photographs of the people in these camps, some
>showing Oswald.
>
>I think you're interpreting things based on Tannenbaum's fictional work.
>
>Joe Backes
Whether he's credible or not, Tanenbaum did tell Jim DiEugenio that the
description of the film in his book was accurate.
doug weldon
It is Alex Rorke. Your observation about the significance of Oswald being in
Russia is correct. Lorenz was unequivocal. When the situation about Oswald was
pointed out to her she simply indicated that was their problem, not hers.
Joe Backes wrote:
> << The film was an 8 mm "home movie" from the summer of 1963. >>
>
> How do you know it was from the summer of 1963? Did Tannenbaum state this
> somewhere?
>
> The thing that's really rather interesting to me about Oswald in the training
> camps with anti-Castro cubans is it's when LHO is in Russia. This gets lost
> when people are looking for who the anti-Castro Cubans might be. According to
> Marita Lorenz, and others LHO is there in 1961, maybe 1962 too. I have
> Marita's book, and her very interesting HSCA executive session testimony, and I
> really don't want to reread them just to nail down this point. But I always
> undeerstood it was significant because this film would show an Oswald, when
> he's supposedly in Russia. I do recall that the HSCA was very dismissive of
> Marita Lorenz's story because they argue it's impossible because LHO is in
> Russia when Lorenz claims to be seeing him in these Florida anti-Castro Cuban
> training camps.
>
> I'm doing this from memory. I did write about this document, I think on FP
> somewhere.
>
> I think Stone's "JFK" also refers to LHO being in these training camps, based
> on Jack Martin's story, and again I think he's referring to pre-1963. He was
> played by Jack Lemmon in the film. I don't think the point was empahsized
> about LHO being in Russia and these camps at the same time.
>
> And when could LHO be in these camps in 1963? Okay, you got this Wilcox guy,
> and Col. Bishop. Hmm, Sept. of 1963.
>
> There is also the story of FBI agent Alex Roth who disappeared and was probably
> killed. Lorenz said he had photographs of the people in these camps, some
Todd W. Vaughan
joeb...@aol.com (Joe Backes) wrote:
> << The film was an 8 mm "home movie" from the summer of 1963. >>
>
> somewhere?
>
> The thing that's really rather interesting to me about Oswald in the training
> camps with anti-Castro cubans is it's when LHO is in Russia. This gets lost
> when people are looking for who the anti-Castro Cubans might be. According to
> Marita Lorenz, and others LHO is there in 1961, maybe 1962 too. I have
> Marita's book, and her very interesting HSCA executive session testimony, and
I
> really don't want to reread them just to nail down this point. But I always
> undeerstood it was significant because this film would show an Oswald, when
> he's supposedly in Russia. I do recall that the HSCA was very dismissive of
> Marita Lorenz's story because they argue it's impossible because LHO is in
> Russia when Lorenz claims to be seeing him in these Florida anti-Castro Cuban
> training camps.
>
> I'm doing this from memory. I did write about this document, I think on FP
> somewhere.
>
> I think Stone's "JFK" also refers to LHO being in these training camps, based
> on Jack Martin's story, and again I think he's referring to pre-1963. He was
> played by Jack Lemmon in the film. I don't think the point was empahsized
> about LHO being in Russia and these camps at the same time.
Like either Stone or Martin is a reliable source for anything
>
> And when could LHO be in these camps in 1963? Okay, you got this Wilcox guy,
> and Col. Bishop. Hmm, Sept. of 1963.
>
> There is also the story of FBI agent Alex Roth who disappeared and was
probably
> killed. Lorenz said he had photographs of the people in these camps, some
> showing Oswald.
>
> I think you're interpreting things based on Tannenbaum's fictional work.
>
> Joe Backes
>
Todd W. Vaughan
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Dreitzes
>Date: 3/8/99 9:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <36E48523...@kalamazoo.net>
>
[snip]
Your observation about the significance of Oswald
>being in
>Russia is correct. Lorenz was unequivocal. When the situation about Oswald
>was
>pointed out to her she simply indicated that was their problem, not hers.
>
As students of John Armstrong's work know, Oz was in Russia when Marita Lorenz
claims to have known him in Florida. This is not true, however, of the reports
of Oswald at the Mandeville, Louisiana training camp; these are all from summer
of 1963.
Joe Backes
You're right. I did mean Alex Rorke. I'll have to read Oswald in New Orleans,
or reread. It's been awhile.
Anyway, I think the timing of when LHO is there with these anti Castro Cubans
is important and a factor that often gets overlooked.
Joe Backes
Dreitzes
>Date: 3/8/99 11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <19990308233329...@ng-fp1.aol.com>
The second part of my own "Oswald in New Orleans" article (can't I ever be
original?) at the URL below covers everything I could dig up about Oswald and
the Mandeville training camp, among other things. The Florida sightings are
another story; these are mentioned in John Armstrong's work and -- if credible
-- are very definitely not about the Oswald we know.
doug weldon
those pictures was supposedly of Oswald. You are correct.
Dreitzes wrote:
> >Subject: Re: PROBE INTERVIEW OF TANENBAUM: AN ERROR OF THE FACT?
> >From: doug weldon <dwe...@kalamazoo.net>
> >Date: 3/8/99 9:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <36E48523...@kalamazoo.net>
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> Your observation about the significance of Oswald
> >being in
> >Russia is correct. Lorenz was unequivocal. When the situation about Oswald
> >was
> >pointed out to her she simply indicated that was their problem, not hers.
> >
>
> As students of John Armstrong's work know, Oz was in Russia when Marita Lorenz
> claims to have known him in Florida. This is not true, however, of the reports
> of Oswald at the Mandeville, Louisiana training camp; these are all from summer
> of 1963.
>
JOHN WOODS,II
when the confrontation between the pro and anti Cubans clashed. Any
insight?
John Dunkin was another great source for
photographs pertaining to the cuban exiles
in which he had incredible access.
What about the FBI document that was looking into the allegations that
Ruth Paine was writing to Oswald while in Russia (penpal program)?
All I have is the one page. Are there any more
documents
JOHN WOODS,II
photographs?
Thanks!
Jim Hargrove
WOODS,II) wrote:
>There are allegations that Oswald was in NY
>when the confrontation between the pro and anti Cubans clashed. Any
>insight?
PMFJI, but....
A number of different FBI documents indicate that Stephen Harris Landesberg,
Earl Perry, and Oswald were involved in demonstrations in New York City in
late 1961 and early 1962. (For starters, see ARRB Rec. Nos. 124-10058-10262
and 124-10164-10225 and 180-10015-10389.) Oswald took photographs of
Landesberg and Perry. When Landesberg reported Oswald's participation in
the demonstrations to the FBI hours after the assassination, he was accused
of providing false information to the government and COMMITTED TO BELLEVUE
PSYCHIATRIC CENTER IN NEW YORK!
About four years ago, researcher John Armstrong attempted to acquire the
U.S. District Court records of the case, U.S. vs. Steven Harris Landesberg.
Armstrong met with Rosemary Fugnetti who was then (and remains today)
archivist at the Federal District Court House at 4 Foley Square in New York
City. In a series of actions prompted by Mr. Armstrong's request, Fugnetti
discovered that all records of the case, including paper documents and two
backup microfilm copies, had disappeared. Armstrong added: "When the FBI
tried to obtain Earl Perry's records from the Marines, they were told they
would first have to get clearance from the Pentagon!"
--Jim Hargrove
JOHN WOODS,II
Thanks for the information.
I found only to lose the information regarding a film taken showing the
riot.
I still back tracking for this film.
Barringer, of Georgetown University clarified
his previous statement to concluded that the
only film footage on file is the Z-movie.
And so it is.....